Nintendo was probably surprised because they never heard of Greenpeace either.

Well, if Nintendo is saying that they have now established this Green Procurement Standards initiative, then it seems they've created a policy in response to Greenpeace's slam. Which was probably what Greenpeacae wanted all along.

Unless I'm misreading this statement.

Greenpeace is an idicator of what is wrong with the environmental movement today- the biggest advocates of the issue are unethical, corrupt, or just plain foolish. It pisses me off how a noble cause like environmentalism is so utterly undermined by the folks who claim to profess it most.

@Zerodash

Exactly! I could support Greenpeace, because I'd rather the Earth not become a unlivable place, but all we seem to hear about is how they're actions are amoral, illegal, unethical, or just plain stupid. I can't support them at all.

I don't understand how Nintendo got stuck with Greenpeace in the first place.

I'm not surprised that Nintendo was surprised. Greenpeace seems to have slammed them solely for not having the information on their website.

@ Zaphyrus

No. Nintendo got a zero because the Nintendo US website did not have any green policies listed on their website. Greenpeace did not even check the Nintendo Japan website or contact Nintendo directly.

Websites and the information listed on the websites were the only way they gathered their information. THey did not contact any company directly.

@# Christian Astrup

Greenpeace is a lot like PETA. They have an admirable cause, but they screw themselves over with their methods.

PETA has an admirable cause? As far as I can tell, it's to rid the world of the concept of domesticated animals, which is not what I call admirable.

@Gray17

Point noted. I was referring to the work against actual abuse of animals. Not the vege-nazism. To be honest theyre pretty crazy in most aspects.

Sorry if i was unclear :S

Greenpeace and PETA do have a lot in common, mostly coming from their radical demonstrations. There are more radical environmental groups, certainly, but Greenpeace is obviously the most pervasive.

The thing about "reports" like this is the way they tend to just appear from out of nowhere and criticize the company. If you try to establish communication with a company and they choose to ignore it, that's one thing. Then you can say "Hey, there are serious problems here and they aren't doing a thing about it." On the other hand, if you blindly shoot your missiles all over the place with the intent of saying "Look! Look! An F is them!" you're the one who looks foolish.

The Greenies couldn't be any more of a joke if they tried. Who took this report seriously? Anyone? Anyone at all?

Not suprised at all that Nintendo actually did have a plan, it was made more than clear in the summary that Greenpeace went to absolutely no effort at all to make that report.

Good going. Nintendo sure put Greenpeace in their place. And you think Greenpeace and PETA are radical? Look for the Revolutionary Cells-Animal Liberation Brigade. They blow up the offices of people that they think run animal-testing labs and other facilities that they find to be cruel to animals. I saw some of these guys on America's Most Wanted yesterday.

soooooo if Nintendo hadn't responded like this the story would have died a week ago?

@Christian Astrup

Point noted. I was referring to the work against actual abuse of animals. Not the vege-nazism. To be honest theyre pretty crazy in most aspects.

Sorry if i was unclear :S

What work against the abuse of animals? Last I checked they apparently considered keeping domestic animals to be abusing them, and had a habit of just killing animals turned over to them.

@jds and Gray 17

PETA does jack shit for animal rights and animal abuse. They just posture. It's the ASPCA that does the good work for animals. PETA's just their to attention whore and pretend to care, which is a great trick.

You see, the problem is that Greenpeace is made of a bunch of jackasses with a political agenda.

As for Nintendo, I'm suprised at them. Really, I would have told Greenpeace to fuck off and go chase after some other idea than global warming.

Seriously, has anyone looked at the places they put those devices they use to detect temperature? In California, they're all on top of metal roofs by the exhaust vent, which is how you get all these bits of data that say things like 146 degrees Farenheit.

That's a real good study, the ones that Al Gore talks about. And by real good, I mean complete bullshit.

Seriously, Global Warming is a crock of shit. Remember when everyone was freaking out about 'Global Cooling??'. The new ice age that was coming about? Yeah.

Wait... what? I know this is off-topic, but PETA kills tons of animals themselves? Huh?

Some of you said they believe domesticating an animal is a form of abuse. So maybe they think that if an animal has already been domesticated, it can't really live in the wild properly, and can only survive by being taken care of, aka "abused", so it's best to just kill it and put it out of it's misery? Or something like that.

I mean, I haven't had much respect for PETA ever since I heard about their "got bear" campaign, which coincidently enough was timed right around the time when various articles were reporting on how binge drinking was at an alltime high, but even so, I'm a bit surprised to hear all this about them, assuming it's true.

Mad_Scientist: They kill over half the animals they claim to save.

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

Ingrid Newkirk (founder and president of PETA) has said numerous times they're opposed to pets. They're also opposed to zoos, medical testing, and guide dogs for the blind. And as previously stated, their tax records show a history of paying bombers like Rodney Coronado shortly before a major bombing.

A really good thing to watch is the episode of Penn & Teller's Bullshit on PETA. While much of their show is biased as hell, this is a very no nonsense episode.

Ace Tsiehta

Off the main topic, but thought you might enjoy the links below. There are an equal number of adherents to GW as there are skeptics, but the skeptics are never featured in the media. Regardless of your belief in GW, you should know what both sides have to say.

BTW, how do I prevent a URL from being a mile long???

Global Warming Scam

@ jds

type them this way.
<a href ="your URL here"> Text to display </a>

(if there is an x on href, don't type it. It keeps coming back.)

@keenan
Not helping.

@Xlorep DarkHelm
@Kajex

i was just going off of what Anonymous said as posted here

Greenpeace’s methods get bitch slapped again.

Don’t they ever get tired of lying. Didn’t one guy get kicked out for asking questions? Bjorn Lomborg or something.

keenan -- Bjorn Lomborg is not, nor has ever been a member of Greenpeace. He's just environmentalist enemy #1 because he committed the horrible, horrible crime of disagreeing with them and even writing a book about it.

So, can we, beyond a shadow of a doubt, laugh at Greenpeace without any regrets? Admittedly I was doing it before...

@Gray17

I looked it up (prompted somewhat by Austin Lewis' post). Turns out i have been attributing some of ASPCA's work to PETA.

/head desk

Im just gonna slink away. Sorry for dragging this off topic.

@Ace
Well, find me a place in California where the temperature hits 145 degrees farenheit on a regular basis (during summer months) and I'll be willing to take the information they glean from their poorly collected, biased, and absolutely faulty data.

Greenpeace.... lol

Is Peta not a terrorist organization?

Then could the patriot act be used against them?

well it was an idea.

@Austin Lewis

I agree. Still, it was somewhat satisfying when they actually caught one of the scumbags.

Well, Greenpeace is alright and all. But they got their flaws too. there's quite a numerous number of things I really disliked about them. But also some things I like.

I recall the Sea Shephard writing an article on what Greenpeace has turned into in the process.

So here's hoping Greenpeace gets their practices repolished.

(Only thing that perplexes me is that my Wii materials are said to be made in China..hahah)