Soda Makers: Blame Video Games for Child Obesity

Soda Makers: Blame Video Games for Child Obesity

December 20, 2007
A lobbyist for the massive soft drink industry blames video games - not soda pop - for America's growing problem with childhood obesity, reports the International Herald Tribune.

Responding to a plan by San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsome to place a surcharge on sales of sweetened soft drinks, Kevin Keane of the American Beverage Association said:
It makes no sense to single out any one single cause of obesity, which is a complex problem.

Keane added that if Mayor Newsome really wanted to fight fat, he would go after video game companies which, the lobbyist said, induced children to stay indoors instead of being "outside burning calories."

However, Nathan Ballard, a spokesman for the Mayor, said:
There's a well-established nexus between obesity, which is caused by high-fructose corn syrup, and the increased health care costs for the city... [but] The mayor has no intention of imposing a fee on pizza.

GP: So, if the soda manufacturers are so concerned about video games and obesity, why are they cross-promoting with popular titles like Halo 3? (see Mountain Dew cans at left)

Comments

Facepalm..
First!
And this is just a load of crap... Seriously. Parents, make the kids exercise. Then they'll gradually get less fat!
Son of a... beat me to it. Lol
1 word. HYPOCRITS!!!
Thank you.
I don't think parents will buy THIS argument though. That's like Fast Food Lobbyists blaming TV for causing obesity or child rapists blaming drug addicts for causing a moral decline.
Blackice,
This is beyond Facepalm.

Keane first saying "It makes no sense to single out any one single cause of obesity, which is a complex problem."

Then turns around and "Keane added that if Mayor Newsome really wanted to fight fat, he would go after video game companies which, the lobbyist said, induced children to stay indoors instead of being “outside burning calories.”"

I mean, seriously, how totally STUPID is this guy?

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
See? This is why we have kids spilling diet soda on their DDR mats.
Not stupid at all. He was misquoted/insufficiently quoted in the original article. His full statement, which is QUITE reasonable, here:
http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/kotaku/full/~3/203230800/soda-says-sorry-to-v...
Well if the parents actually made the kids move more than just to the fridge, Its obivous to see who's fault it is, The parents are the ones buying everything for them yet want to blame the company for making it.
Of course. Games are loaded with sugar. STAY AWAY FROM GAMES!
Yes, now it makes more sense. Thanks Shariq. :)

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
Damn, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

*cracks open a Mountain Dew*
Go over to Kotaku and you can see the soda exec was misquoted and tried to clear things up.

Basically he was saying that blaming soda for kids being fat (and applying extra tax burden to soda manufacturers and consumers) is just as bad as blaming video games (and applying special taxes to them).

http://kotaku.com/336032/soda-says-sorry-to-videogames
Citizens: Blame lazy, stupid parents for child obesity
Single cause of childhood obesity = PARENTS.

Parents are the ones buying the food, feeding the kids, and not limiting the amount of time they spend sitting around.

I had videogames since I was a wee tyke (all the way to the late 70's), and my parents ALWAYS limited my playtime. Also, soft drinks & candy was an occasional treat that they had TOTAL CONTROL over.
Eh, even their response seemed kinda weak to me. I think they'd still rather blame games so people pay attention to them and not soda... but then they realized that gamers are known for their conspicuous consumption of Mountain Dew and it'd be wise to not piss off a large group of customers.
Goddammit.

At least the game industry is lobbying honestly instead of mudslinging. You don't see the game industry blaming violence on sugar highs from soda..

Twinkie defense anyone?
If only they actually used real sugar in their drinks, I might actually still drink the occasional soda.
I like pop more than I like soda.
Okay after reading the article at the Kotaku website, everything make sense now.

Misquotes are common throughout the media. Heck, we should've known this by now. Jack Thompson and Lyndon Larouche misquote their sources all the time.
I remember a time when the reason for obesity was placed squarely on the responsibilty of the guy who decided to let himself go that far.

Honestly, how hard can it be to swear off soda? Quite putting the blame on drinks or other outside factors, and just admit you're an undsciplined slob!
Boy do I miss GameFuel.
"It makes no sense to single out any one single cause of obesity, which is a complex problem."

Okay, so let's...

"if Mayor Newsome really wanted to fight fat, he would go after video game companies"

Um...

So much for "it makes no sense to single out any one single cause"...
Obesity is not a complex problem. Sure there may be lots of contributing factors, but the following comparison explains the cause of obesity in most people:

calories in > calories out (on average).
True story here:

I'm not nor have I ever been considered obese. Earlier this year, I was 6'0" tall and my weight had crept up to 210. (I have a pretty big frame, so getting to the government recommended body-fat-index weight of 172 pounds is never going to happen. I'd look like a skeleton.)

Then I realized I was probably drinking too much sugared sodas.

Here's the deal. I love Mountain Dew. I hate diet sodas. I love coffee (no cream, no sugar). Dropping caffeine out of my diet is out of the question.

But I dropped sugared sodas and any drinks with high fructose corn syrup as a main ingredient. I found a couple of diet sodas that actually taste pretty good. And I allow myself one Mountain Dew in the afternoon to keep me going. Everything else is diet or black coffee.

I've changed nothing else regarding my diet (I still love Chipotle burritos and Wendy's Baconators) or exercise habits (which consists primarily of Guitar Hero at this point).

I'm down to 190 pounds. I've lost 20 pounds in 6 months.

The point of this? The American Beverage Association is 100% wrong on this.
I wonder of this man has ever heard of the Wii?
Terminator44: we still have it in our Cub Foods in Minnesota. I bought some last week.
*stammers*

This is nuts... hypocrisy and backstabbing at its purest level.

Not only are they turning their heads away from the aforementioned Halo 3 deal, but if they JUST SAID that picking out a single 'cause' of obesity is not a smart way to end the problem, then why are they actually doing so?

Just... no. You know what? No.
I heard that bonehead talk about this on network news(it was either CNN or MSNBC, I really don't remember). But I will tell you this, I used to be Obese (by about 5 pounds), beacaused I did not exersize and eat right.I started eater better and exersized a lot more and lost 20-23 pounds.And heres the funny thing, I play more video games today than I did when I was obese (a lot more, I was a casual gamer during my very heavy years). A large amount of that weight loss was from giving up soda (even diet). So stick it in your ear Keane.
Foot In Mouth disease can strike any of us... I suppose it hits politicians and lobbyist even harder.
I wish people would read through some of the comments before commenting. Another poster and I have already pointed out that the article misquotes Keane.

I also wish GP would fix the news story. :\
When I read this (just the title) my hand flew from my knee to my face for a facepalm.
"It makes no sense to single out any one single cause of obesity, which is a complex problem."

What the hell? Does this guy realizes that he just contradicted himself by making this statement and then going on to blame video games?

When will the stupid stop?
@Dog_Welder

Its not the sugar, you could do that all day an not deal with weight issues, its the high fructose corn syrup.
@Terminator 44
I saw several 12-packs at my local Wal-Mart this morning.
rtrete
@Soda Makers

Screw you and your fizzy drinks.
@Myprok
Pop is another name for soda.
@Buckeye
but pop is the right one
oh by the way, Kotaku got a response from the guy quoted here and this entire quote was user after he said that to blame soda [pop dammit] would use the same FLAWED logic as has recently been lobbed at the video game industry. I mean, really, who are bigger customers of their product than gamers? He's not against us guys, he's being grossly misquoted.
Just testing to see if this gets past the Spam Filter.

I chose this thread because it makes me laugh, it makes my family laugh, it would probably make my cat laugh if it could read.

That's possibly the most amusing attempt to squirm out of responsibility I have even seen. When Soda companies start actually showing some concern over the amount of crap they put into our children, then I'll start showing some concern about their opinion on other possible parts of the problem, until then, they are hippocrites and nothing more,

'I'm not doing anything until they do' is starting to become this planets' catchphrase....
I used to weight 180 at about 5"11 when I was 16-18. I drank more than 3 cans of Soda a day. Sometimes even up to 6 or more. And I played video games.

Some things happened in my life and I stopped drinking Soda completely and switched to water whenever I got thirsty, and worked out. And now I weigh 140, and I'm 19 now. I still play games.
"It makes no sense to single out any one single cause of obesity, which is a complex problem."

Then why is he singling out video games? I smell hypocrisy.
My dad's a Pediatrician who has been doing a lot of studies on childhood obesity.

Guess what? Medical literature links HFCS to the problem far more than lack of activity.

Of course, you do need to get out and play outside, lard balls. Leave your handhelds inside while you do it.
Next in the news, candy makers blame video games, not candy, to kids deteriorating tooth decay problem.......
"GP: So, if the soda manufacturers are so concerned about video games and obesity, why are they cross-promoting with popular titles like Halo 3?"

This right here is the only argument needed.
@BlackIce

"Facepalm.."

I second that.
Soda...pop...you say "potato" - I say "french fries" - isn't it amazing how word selection - and quotes taken out of context - can spur furious debate? ;)

If they really want to solve the child obesity thing, then maybe they should just tax or fine the parents. It's simple: their kids have to weigh in once each new year...if they are determined to be overweight, then the parents would have to claim it on their tax return and pay extra. Some people can never motivate themselves on the road to responsibility, so you have to mess with their paychecks...(maybe I'll call Spitzer and see what he thinks...or maybe I'm just being facetious...)

@Dog_Welder
I personally live for the brief time when Wendy's offers the Bacon Mushroom Melt - I act like Homer with the Ribwich ;)

I'm 33, 5'6" - and I have never weighed more than 120 lbs...soaking wet, after a sandwich, ad infinitum. It's beyond my control. I inherited my grandfather's genes (the man was a rail his whole life) and I have had the "metabolism from hell" for the entirety of mine. I'm "that guy" who can eat and eat and eat and never show it. Always with a clean bill of health, no malfunctioning glands or other body parts to speak of.

The only way I ever gain any weight is when I go to the gym regularly ( meaning muscle mass, of course). My trainer once said that he would have me drink heavy cream every morning, but the only thing it would do is give me a heart attack.

Not that I've been in quite a while, mind you, because I haven't been motivated to work out lately (not to mention the gas money I am saving by not going). I'd much rather watch a movie, play a game, or work on some music (a process centered around my PC).

My reason for this rant is to reinforce what most of us "think-for-ourselvers" already know: one simple thing alone is not to blame. Some of us can be drastically affected by a sleight change in diet and/or exercise patterns. Some of us don't even blink. It's a combination of individual genetic makeup, habits, AND mental health that dictates who we are, how we look, and so on...
When a kid hears three times the sugar and twice the caffiene, what do you think they are going to drink? MILK!!!! Yeah right, it is not the video games fault. it is the amount of sugar and fat in those drinks that is making these kids fat.
this is like that goalie that blames the team's loss on video games a few months ago
Soda? Video games? You're missing the point.

America's absurd and redundant public education and healthcare system are partially to blame for child hood obesity figures. The main culprit, however, is a culture of corporate greed, unregulated advertisement, fast food, and sugar. It's difficult to find cheap, easy, tasty, and HEALTHY food options in America's cities. Major corportized food distributers, such as Conagra and McDonalds, sell products are incredibly hydrogenated, loaded with calories, and chalk full with bad sugars. Most also own stock, or are direct affliates, with major drug companies who will sell customers obesity related drugs down the line. We lack an adequate health care system, instead opting to profiteer off the sickness of others and ignore the needs of the poor, to properly address these issues in a preventive fashion.
Whoa, Shariq of OC Remix fame! I didn't expect to run into him here.

When someone points out a problem that they admit to have done themselves, ie. singling out a single cause for a large problem, what does that make them? A pot recognizing how black it is? I think it this case, it knows its faulty logic but wants to divert that attention away by transparently attacking something else.
Oh, for the love of...

*stands on a soapbox, busts out a megaphone*

Attention, dinguses! The Soda Rep in question has stated that he was misquoted! The article with the explanation over at Kotaku has been posted twice, now! Learn some freaking reading comprehension already!

*steps off*
Speaking of Soda= fat, do anyone know how many soda makers use sucralose(splenda) I am allergic to aspartame ...I need to cut my sugar intake down my body can't convert it much anymore...I is gettings old >

EZK: My father-in-law drink Diet RC. It has splenda. Not sure of any others off the top of my head.
This reminds me of another found time during "Red Ribion" Week. (It's about drugs not Communists) A person said that Marijuan caused AIDS.
When asked to explain she said that it leads to lazyness and a larger sex drive and that could lead to unprotected sex, which could lead to getting an STD which could be AIDS.


Stupidity all around.
GLAD to see that other people have already noted that Kevin Keane has cleared up this confusing mix up already.

AND that the vice-president of the American Beverage Association has also admitted that he is Captain N: The Game Master, now retired after saving Videoland, with three kids who he is ashamed to say have trounced him in today's games.

It wasn't too hard to piece together. Kevin Keene, Kevin Keane... just a simple change of a letter and WHOOSH! Perfect disguise! :D

Seriously, I'm glad that:

a) He was misquoted cause a guy named Kevin Keane really SHOULD love games, what with being Captain N and all.
AND
b) All kidding aside, the fact that he knows who and what Captain N is a statement in and of itself! ROCK ON! :D

Anyway, an UPDATE seriously needs to be tacked onto this.

Seriously.

~Otaku-Man
One little point, my girlfriend was worrying about her slight slow gain of stomach fat, which I personally didn't care about, but it seemed to bother her. Then i noticed how much Coke she drank, and i suggested she stop, or drink diet. Turns out it was harder then i thought it would be, seems she was a little addicted. Anyways after about a week without her 3 or 4 daily cokes (I know, so unhealthy) she essentially immediately lost the slight stomach she was gaining. So I'd say pop is a big cause of obesity, shes young and has a high metabolism, older, or lower metabolizing people would likely see a much larger effect. Some people drink 5 or more a day, I used to when I was little, and that's 800+ calories.
@ Pandralisk
"It’s difficult to find cheap, easy, tasty, and HEALTHY food options in America’s cities."

It's called the grocery store, i belive that they sell food that has not been super processed for a low price in some sections...

Also Fast food and proccesed food is not cheap, cheap is what i consider to be less than $5 here in Canada, becuase for the $6-$10 range for one meal at Mcdonalds, i could just cook up my own meal for 4, for about the same price.

I think one of the major problems is, is that a lot of people dont cook very often, maybe becuase they dont know how to cook meals from scratch. I would kinda like to see more people cook from scratch rather then going to a fast food place every other day, and those people that say it takes too much time, it's a lie, becuase theirs many things you can do to make sure food is on the table, such as preparing it ahead of time, using a slow cooker ect ect.

Another point i would like to make, is that if you are going to a fast food place, be sure to know what you pick. It's not as hard as you think, you dont have to pull up nutrition charts of any sort, you just have to watch what they do in the kitchen. Stupidly Mcdonalds has some sort of open "kitchen" where you can obviously see the french fries being dreaded in a pitcher of salt, or frozen products being prepared, or burgars being prepared on buttery oily surfaces, which kinda informs that yea, this might not be the best place for "X".
jab
ya around 30 you motablisim slows some and if you ave a slow one to start with sugar can just convert straight to fat, I am trying to move to diet but I cannot drink apspertime and thats mostly what is used in soda drinks.
My god, does everyone hate video games? Pfft.. don't blame the game, blame the people for not having self-discipline
@nightwng2000

"Blackice,
This is beyond Facepalm."

I've already done too many HEADDESKs today.
Rebuttal article:

Video games save the day with healthy eating habits with Cooking Mama! But remember kids- don't try to cook in real life, it's only a video game!
Irony and hypocrisy...

Oh no, we shouldn't put blame on just one thing...EXCEPT VIDEOGAMES LOLOLOMGWTF.

And are you kidding me? Sodas contribute to the health issue around here. Young people (Like me...and younger) drink sodas all the bloody time. So don't act all innocent.

Hell, the only cause of obesity is the actual person and nothing more. God, I cannot stand people who can let themselves way over 700lbs (Remember those stories of half ton people who cannot move, and must stay in their bed?)

I won't lie to ya, I'm not the thinnest person around, but I would freakin' starve myself If I see myself getting *too* large. But anyway... I'm getting ahead of myself here. Going a bit off topic...
It's articles like this that make me hate people sometimes.
By that logic, playing chess all day should make you fat.
Right... the makers of incredibly sugary, empty-calorie filled beverages are blaming something else for childhood obesity.

It's a combinations of factors. Soda is right up there with sedentary lifestyles.
@Mister Angry

Anorexia is just as bad as obesity, if not worse...

Just wanted to put that out there...
@ Generic Name

Beautifully said
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

I can already see Pepsi and Coke stating it's because they have diet versions of their drinks.

Anyone for the XBox 1.5? It's 358.5 less calories than the XBox 360!

Oh man... Gotta love statements like this from the PR geniuses.
@broken scope -- you do realize that the "fructose" part of "high fructose corn syrup" is sugar, right?
This is the fourth story in as many weeks that has been shown to be erroneous... and again, the REAL story comes out on Kotaku...

http://kotaku.com/336032/soda-says-sorry-to-videogames

I know that GP likes to get news stories up fast so you get the hits, but basically all you're doing is being like the Fox News of the gaming world.

Considering you criticise other publications for sloppy journalism, to do it so often yourself reeks of hypocrisy.

Trust me, I know the issues facing a news site, but it doesn't take too much to go beyond what most of them do - a phone call here, an email there.

When you do break stories and have researched them and gone beyond copy & pasting an AP feed, you have some extraordinary good journalism going on, and I guess that's what annoys me so much about GP.
http://www.ameribev.org/news-detail/index.aspx?nid=119

The link to ABA

context is important.

Edward Norton once said, "I hate anyone that is a white Protestant."


but that was in the movie american history x


Also I can see how this could have been misread.
Oops thats

*isnt

I hate anyone that isnt a white Protestant.
Hypocrites! Soda is full of High Frutose Corn Syrup, which it contains lots of sugar.

And second, why on earth would they want to profit from schools, that they also tribute to obesity.

Lay off those sugary drinks kids. They can give you diabetes.
@ Funky J

Thanks for the link.

Ok so GP goofed. It happens. We're human. I'm sure Dennis will have an edit up before JT can get another lawsuit on the books.

*goes back to drinking his Dew*
DDR
DAMN YOU JARED!!!
Single cause of childhood obesity= Corn Syrup.
For those of you who do not know, corn syrup has replaced sugar as the sweetner of choice for american food. And it's not just a matter of "you need to avoid sweets"!
Go to your grocery store. Find any food stuff on the shelf. Read it's ingredients. Unless it's a raw vegetable, it has corn syrup added. I picked up a pack of uncooked italian sausage last night and right there on the label was corn syrup.
Are kids are fat because companies want their foods to taste better. The easiest way to appeal to a person's palate is with sugars or fats.
"It makes no sense to single out any one single cause of obesity, which is a complex problem."

"Keane added that if Mayor Newsome really wanted to fight fat, he would go after video game companies"

Conflict in logic detected. Why single out when it makes on sense to single out?
Yay! Blame wars!
what madness is this?!
There are a lot of problems that contribute to today's obesity problem.... I am about 5 feet 7 and weigh 200lbs., but I stay that way or go lower by walking everyday.

One thing that people blame is all of the commercials of fast food and sugary snacks that is placed during children's programming. But these are the only companies I've seen that buy commercial airtime on children's television. I've barely seen any commercials about healthy food. I blame the healthy food companies for not putting commercials on children's time slots. (correct me if I am wrong.)

Videogames MIGHT be a factor.... if played the whole day....No DDR or Guitar Hero....

But it is ultimatly up to the parents to prevent obesity. That is the truth.
That is a load of crap. No video game is holding a gun to a kids head and telling him/her to sit around get fat by eatting crappy food and drink nothing but sodas. That is the fault of the parents not teaching the kid to not eat crap and eat healthy and not sit on their lazy butts.
I drink soda. I play video games. I weight 172, and I'm 5'9". I'm well within my weight standards...in fact, I'm very well kept. Soda makers...you fail.

How the hell are you going to be the one that MAKES something that contributes to obesity, then say "oh, its not us...its them". Is the child EATING these games? Do these games have low nutritional value? Come on. Stop being an idiot.
This is too fucking good, soda makers saying that videogames make kids fat.

Has anyone looked at the Nutrition Facts label on a can of normal soda recently? They all have around 150 calories, and 40 grams of sugar and carbohydrates.
[...] In another story, soda makers are blaming video games for childhood obesity. Say what?? Pot, meet kettle anyone? How can people not see the hypocrisy of a story like this? [...]
In reference to the "Soda Loves Videogames" email on Kotaku:

The ABA is still lying. HFCS is still a leading cause of obesity, and singling it out for surcharges would be beneficial to health.

Here's a simple argument:
How much time can you spend playing videogames in a day? The maximum is 24 hours, and your body shuts down after a day or several of this.

Do you have caloric intake from videogames?
No. You burn varying levels. Not as much as good exercise, but you are still expending some trivial energy. You can starve to death if you don't eat.

How much soda can you drink in a day?
A huge amount, it tastes goooood! And the caffeine helps you stay up longer!

Do you have caloric intake from drinking soda?
YES.


So, what makes you fatter, really? Not exercising, or consuming sodas and other fat-generating foods?
LULZ.
Holy crap, this is right.
What's next?
McDonald's blames taxi drivers for Big Mac-induced heart attack surges!
For those commenting on the HFCS. There is a soda maker that uses cane sugar instead. If you can find it Jones Soda is very tasty with some original flavors and no HFCS. I'm not at home to double check the labels but that's what I remember.
[...] Soda companies blaming video games for child obesity [...]
[...] stycze? 15, 2008 @ 16:22 · Zamieszczone w kategoriach Newsy i wydarzenia and tagged: fatworld, gry perswazyjne, persuasive games, serious games Ciekawy i znamienny zbieg okoliczno?ci. W ubieg?ym miesi?cu producenci napojów gazowanych oskar?ali gry o powodowanie oty?o?ci w?ród dzieci. Kilka dni temu wtórowa? im szef brytyjskiego oddzia?u McDonald’s. Powód? Dzieci graj? siedz?c w domach zamiast biega? po dworze i spala? energi? (czyt. Coca-Col? i McNuggets). Z kolei w tym tygodniu to gra w?a?nie mierzy si? z problemem nadwagi - i to bez szukania winnych na zewn?trz i podawania ?atwych, gotowych odpowiedzi. [...]
Re: Soda Makers: Blame Video Games for Child Obesity

We all know the real reason kid's are fat these day's. EL-NiNo is to blame. God damn storm. They told us year's down the road all kinda bad stuff would happen. See and yall thought nuffin was gonna happen. Well i guess that storm showed us eh? ;)

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