Virtual Worlds + Botnets = Terrorist Training?

December 21, 2007 -
Could international terrorists utilize MMO-like virtual spaces to train for attacks?

Writing for the Counter-terrorism Blog, experts Roderick Jones and Michael Schrage speculate that virtual worlds hidden on botnets controlled by hackers could provide a useful venue for terrorists to meet, train and plan operations:
Terrorists are early adopters of new technologies - especially if they're cheap and easy to acquire... the most visible recent advances in the realm of online collaboration -virtual worlds and social networking sites - will likely be adapted for use by extremists...

The real-world Afghanistan may be gone as a terrorist training safe-haven but creating virtual Afghanistans is literally and figuratively child's play... Geographically dispersed terrorist groups could easily come together to learn the complex technical tradecraft of terror, such as bomb making - but within a virtual environment...

While the popular MMO Second Life might offer terrorists just the kind of virtual space needed, its use is unlikely as it would not be private enough for covert planning.
Systems such as the virtual world Second Life are unlikely to be used in this way, as potential jihadis will seek to operate behind private protected systems...

Botnets, however, are the likely solution: 
The same criminal gangs that use 'malware' and ‘spybots’ that secretly ‘recruit’ tens of thousands of unsuspecting home PCs and laptops into digital ‘zombies’ will ultimately become subcontractors to terror. Untraceably cheap and disposable 'just-in-time' virtual worlds that fuse the benefits of virtual worlds like Second Life with the criminal effectiveness of zombie botnets are inevitable.

They will be where tomorrow's bin Ladens educate, train and coordinate...

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These people are paranoid idiots.

I think we need to enlist the help of Bruce Willis and the Mac Guy.

No.

yes, you too may be training jihad terrorists and not even know it!

/sarcasm

Well they do use the internet to their advantage...

This is insane...the second one person shows the slightest sign of complacency, a new campaign of "BE AFRAID! TERRORISTS WILL EAT YOUR BABIES!" starts up.

The US Army "tries" to use it, and they expect Terrorist Organisations not to?

That's assuming of course, that the US Army does use it. Which it doesn't. I think.

E-TERRORISM RUN FOR YOUR LIVES.

So terrorists are going to start using distributed computing to run mmo servers that will allow them the opportunity to practice complex real word tasks.

Okay that was pushing it, i'll try again.

Terrorists are going to start using slave computers to run game servers for older fps games which will allow them the to practice complex real world tasks.

Okay better, possibly realistic, misses the fact that most peoples home connections have miserable upload speeds and that playing a server on most games runs like a dog once you get past 8 clients.



Okay not really, Im calling bullshit on this. It was an interesting thought until he started using buzzwords like "Just in time" and "disposable".

Few games actually simulate anything. Most games give you a realistic setting then use things such as a skill roll or a mini game to allow you to do a delicate task such as making or defusing a bomb.

The fact of the matter, is that MMO in this sense could be replaced by counter-strike, half-life, or any number of FPS games. This is one more thing written by anti terror experts who don't really understand stuff the moment they step outside the field of expertise, they assume games are far more interactive than they are now.



Actually, I bet you could teach someone to make bombs with a flash game. Its not that hard, takes less resources, can be distributed, and would work on more computers.

"Give glory to Allah! Were going B guys!"
"Wait! Whos got the C4?"
"Someone boot Osama, hes being a total awp whore!"
"Hey someone give Ayman that colt, hes a total badass with it"
"Guys lets doing a knife only round l0lz!"
"This map sucks, lets play dust!"
"Fucking noobs, use the Para!"
"KeK!!!"


Yeah, I'm really fucking scared now.

If people think Second Life is, in any case and sense, a good tool to use to train for terrorist operations, they need to actually try using it. After five minutes of trying to do anything big like that, the sim crashes, you're booted off the game, and it takes about 10-15 minutes to get back online. Now, if anything would cause anyone to want to blow something up, it would be that.

The object of terrorism is to strike terror into the hearts of the people who have been targeted. It usually starts with a large show of power. 9/11.

Now from that point on, the goal is to keep that terror up by hinting at bigger threats that never seem to materialize. You never say what you are going to do, because the real plan is to make people specualtate what you will do next.

Let's look at some of the speculation shall we:

Light brite bombs
Poisoned Gumball Machines
LEGO Atomic bombs

Now we have terror botnet training. Who knows how many other "threats" we have to the public.

The goal of terrorism is to get the people targeted to be so obsessed with watching their back, that they forget to see what is right in front of their faces.

Wow this is going over the top. It's bad enough that some believe in that videogames cause real world violence, but terrorist training?

@Talimar

I know you're being sarcastic, but you used jihad wrong. Jihad actually means 'to please their God Allah'. Even if it means that they have to blow themselves up.

Ok I fail to see how you can "Train" online with anything, god only knows how many terrorists nowadays use their mice and keyboards to setup attacks on us.

People are so afraid and don't realize that is what the terrorists want them to do.

@E.Zachary Knight

I loled at this frpm the lego thing, are people really this stupid?

"Kids could make atomic bombs out of LEGO, and just think what would happen if some Islamic terrorist get hold of a copy. The possibilities are terrifying."

Im confused since when is it so easier for children to come across the materials to make an Atomic Bomb from a box of legos? Things sure have changed since I played with them.

Ya right, I can see the World of Jihad support forum...

Fix teh fuxing Sunni Rep Now!!!

/signed

/signed

[link to goatse]

We here at Fatwah Entertainment strive to achieve the best we can with our support. I can assure yo our developers are working on the issue.

Hey CM, you repli to this post when teh intire suscide bomber class is broken!! Fix it now!

Nerf hijacker class!

I'll nerf yuo!!

and so on...

I think that we should get them all hooked on WoW.
"Abdule, you will be spearheading this suicide mission."
"But I have a raid on Tuesday! I finally got enough peope together to help me get my epic Chest piece!"
"OK, Alakhim, then you-"
"Sorry, can't! I'm half a bubble away from 70!"
"Um... Shakihm!"
"AFK"

Hahaha, I laughed while reading this. I can see it now, terrorists playing Counter-Strike. Oh noes!

" The same criminal gangs that use ‘malware’ and ‘spybots’ that secretly ‘recruit’ tens of thousands of unsuspecting home PCs and laptops into digital ‘zombies’ will ultimately become subcontractors to terror. Untraceably cheap and disposable ‘just-in-time’ virtual worlds that fuse the benefits of virtual worlds like Second Life with the criminal effectiveness of zombie botnets are inevitable.

They will be where tomorrow’s bin Ladens educate, train and coordinate…"

Is it just me, or does this sound strangely like Fox 11's news coverage on Anon and "hacker gangs"?

Meh, if this means they'll be cracking down on said spyware and virus authors with extreme prejudice, why stop them? *evil grin*

What are they planning to do? Attack the US with herbal viagra using money left over from an unknown African Royal Family member?

@that_1_guy:
sorry, ill refrain from using jihad in that sense in future posts. scratch one up to ignorance. -.-

Wha???

Al-Qaeda is going to trojan horse my computer and then steal my WoW character??

I guess this terrorism thing is bigger than I thought.

/end sarcasm

not my WoW character

ah hahahahahahahahahaha

INTERNETS ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS!

oh god my computer is gonna get a arab virus im soooo scared

better reason to get a new computer so i can play crisis
anyone played that yet

crysis kicks ass

i dont have a good enough graphics card or freakin computer for that matter

Uh Oh, what if /b/ is secretly a training ground for Al-Qaeda and Hamas?

Broken Scope says:
“Give glory to Allah! Were going B guys!”
“Wait! Whos got the C4?”
“Someone boot Osama, hes being a total awp whore!”
“Hey someone give Ayman that colt, hes a total badass with it”
“Guys lets doing a knife only round l0lz!”
“This map sucks, lets play dust!”
“Fucking noobs, use the Para!”
“KeK!!!”

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Ok, i am now gasping for breath after the ensuing ROFL's. I can actually see that happening if terrorists were to use Counterstrike as "training"

@ Blackice

The use it very rarely, and even then it's either for team work, or target practice. and when I say target practice I mean those big screens that they project a field and target on and you use a special rifle to shoot at it. hardly a video game, but it uses a computer and a screen, so someone could definatly twist it as one, even if they don't use people targets.

the whole team work thing really all depends on where and when. but 99% of the time they just go out in the field and run, what can be described as, playing army. just running drills and scenarios. My father, who was a commander, told me some teams play games to keep a sense of communication high, but also to just to relax. otherwise, video games really aren't used all that much, if at all.

unless you count that wicked awesome flight simulator thing. I want to play with that thing soooo much!

[...] Check out some of the links (here, here and here) . [...]

@EZK

LEGO. Atomic. Bombs. Woe is me, I still have a box with 10.000+ pieces, that certainly can level my entire city! Now let's check all lego boxes for weapons grade uranium and plutonium. /sarcasm

That's just f*cking batshit loco whooping sensationalist, so stupid it goes BEYOND words.

Point: Terrorists are going to use MMOs for training.

Counter Point: Caves have no high speed internet access.

Counterstrike: The bomb has been defused!

Have a nice day.

@Archgabe

Lol nice :p .

@broken scope

ROFLMAO!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

OH OH!! I'm out of breath after that one! That's classic!

The only one you forgot is for the terrorist squad:
"We are going all the way to Allah!"

This article is rediculous and I vote broken scope for the winning comment. Oh I need to go get some air! LOL!

Terrorists using botnets? I can see. They already have websites they use to communicant and do press releases, and are probably using other such tools already(email, sending info/videos on "how to make/attack a XYZ", etc)..... And they have launched attacks and hacked some sites...

Yet that also has its problems, running a botnet has a huge risk of making your presence noticed and monitored. How are they to know that Joe Sixpack is not really Bob from the FBI?

But, terrorists using something like Second Life to train? I just can't see it being that useful of a tool, and using CPU intensive things like that on someone else's --probably well out of date-- machine would be noticeable....

"Terrorists are early adopters of new technologies - especially if they’re cheap and easy to acquire… "

if they're cheap and easy to acquire, they're not new.

So thats who keeps sharding my epics!

WTF has there been a sudden drop in I.Q's while ive been away?

FACT:

Videogames did 9/11.

ROFL at Lego Atomic Bombs. I thought that article would be about a guy who made real weapons out of Lego pieces. But yes, those terrorists have their ways. They have buckets full of Lego pieces just in case they want to make their weapons look like innocent toys.

This is ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes terrorist can communicate through games over the internet, but you know what? They can communicate WITHOUT GAMES OVER THE INTERNET ALSO!!!!!!!

If you don't want terrorist communicating through games over the internet then SHUT DOWN THE WHOLE INTERNET.....

God I hope no-one listens to these idiots or our governments will waste billions of dollars to try to control and restrict the internet....

I don't see cyber terror being a big deal in the future... do you really think governments put PCs with critical information in contact with the intertubes?

@Mnementh


Please tell me your kidding?

Government, intelligence, military they all have important systems exposed to
to the web. Hell

Guess who fucks with them on a regular basis, china. Guess who doesn't do jack shit about it, the government. It security is hard to put through a companies culture, its about a hundred times harder to put it through the sometimes backward ass closed minded culture that forms in military and government.

The military is better though because they constantly get new people, though the US military is having some issues in putting to much faith in new tech.
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