Jack Thompson Has Defense Department in His Sights

Is there an “unholy alliance” between the video game industry and the U.S. Defense Department?

There is in the mind of Jack Thompson.

The anti-game activist sent out a press release this morning claiming that he would turn his attention in the New Year to the U.S. military’s foray into the video game space. From Thompson’s press release:

One of the consequences of this collaboration [between the DoD and the game biz] is the increasing number of commando-style assaults by young video gamers, such as the recent “mall massacre” in Omaha, Nebraska. 

GP: …ummm, evidence? Any basis whatsoever for such a sweeping condemnation?

Virginia Tech’s Cho was an obsessive high school player of the military-themed CounterStrike, according to the Washington Post. 

GP: Gov. Kaine’s blue ribbon Virginia Tech Review Panel reported that there was no evidence that Cho played anything more sinister than Sonic the Hedgehog. The Washington Post deleted its initial reference to any supposed Counter-strike play on Cho’s part. Thompson is well aware of that, but continues to cite the initial – apparently erroneous – report.

Researchers have proven the long-term effect of immersion in interactive violence…  

Perhaps. But Thompson doesn’t say what those researchers may have proven. There’s certainly no study which draws a link between game violence and actual violence, although that’s the implication in his press release.

What is increasingly clear is that the unholy alliance between the game industry and the DOD is teaching an an entire generation of kids that war is glamorous, cool, desirable, and consequence-free.

Believe it or not, there is actually a formal working relationship between the[DoD] and the game industry at the Institute for Creative Technologies [ICT] on the campus of the University of Southern California.  US Senator James Inhofe of  Oklahoma is its most unabashed and enthusiastic supporter. 
A recent poll shows that more than 60% of the American people want a federal law that prohibits the sale of extremely violent, mature-rated  video games to minors.  How upset will American parents be when they find out their federal government, rather than being part of the solution, is actually part of the problem? 

GP: While the use of the freely-distributed America’s Army PC game as a recruiting tool is somewhat controversial, there aren’t many other publicly available games with any kind of DoD connection. I reminded Thompson that all of the America’s Army games, including the more recent console titles, are T-rated. He replied:

America’s Army is not the only such game, ace.  Pay attention.

GP: Well, we are paying attention, which is why Thompson’s move in this direction is surprising. In addition to America’s Army there are a pair of Full Spectrum Warrior titles. And that’s about it. Thompson, in fact, mentioned FSW in a follow-up e-mail. It’s true that the strategy franchise is M-rated, but the player’s character directs a squad and doesn’t actually handle any weapons.  ICT developed that game in versions for both the military and commercial game market.

There is and has always been an overlap between the military and consumer markets. Products developed for one often find their way into the other. What’s more, the military is making increasing use of game tech for training purposes.

Aside from that, the small universe of games with a DoD connection doesn’t seem like especially fertile ground for a Thompson-style jihad. There are no crazed axe murderers, no hookers to rob, no carjacking, no simulated drug usage.

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    Terrible Tom ( User Karma: -1 ) says:

    @everyone apart of the JT discussion

    I dunno, it doesn’t seem like the ECA is really supportive of my views. I’m on the fence of not renewing my membership or starting a chapter and trying to get my opinions(any many of my friend’s opinions) into the ECA somehow.

    I think there are other areas where things need to be debated amongst fellow members such as, Console Manufacturers rating limitations, How to keep the Local, State and Federal Government from abusing the game industry, If confronting the EMA on the issue of availability of AO rated games(I’ve had a huge grudge against the EMA ever since I’ve learned of it) and what could be done to voice our opinion on strengthening the ESRB rating system.

    Those topics completely overshadow Jackie boy in my opinion. I mean here we have the Federal Government, State Governments, Local Governments, The EMA, Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, the ESRB, and any retailers not apart of the EMA.

    Gamers and Game Developers have been in a public battle with Jack Thompson for a while. It wasn’t Doug Lowenstein’s policy of ignoring JT that created the problem or even intensified it. There is no substance behind that argument, or at least no substance has been presented. The effect of John Bruce’s public assault on video games can be credited directly to the man himself. Lets not blame an innocent man for the evils of another, shame on all who hold that as truth. Its not right, sorry.

    I think the REAL issue is the lack of involvement of the Game Industry to TEACH parents about video games. I’ve heard one very excellent presentation that I really really wish would be seen more often. I’m not even sure if it has officially been given to the intended audience(parents) but it is an excellent way for an individual to learn about video games if they are totally ignorant on the issue. I’ll talk to her about recording it and passing it onto GP, but its just one thing we can start doing to educate the public. We can bicker with JT in a civil manner or even a uncivilized manner all we want to but I don’t really see that as an effective means of educating the public about video games. What we should be doing is placing emphasis on EDUCATION. Not an education thats only for children, but an education that is for Adults(Parents, Grandparents and Non-Parents) Teens and Children. We need to inform individuals and correct individuals that are misinformed. If this is not done Jack Thompson might not be successful but someone else will take his place. If we teach the public as much as we can about video games then societies video game phobia will begin to die.

    I think the root of the problem is public ignorance, and thats where our focus should be in terms of dealing with Jack Thompson. Obviously this is something that is difficult and not a new idea. But it is pretty safe to say that it has yet to be done in an effective manner considering the situation we find ourselves in currently.

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    Ryan "Lard" ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I do believe that Jack Thompson might indeed be serious about his belief in banning video games. For a second there I thought he was just joking, but I guess not. Oh well.


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    Erik ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I submit that Jack Thompson should put his money where his mouth is. My idea is that he shall have one year to “train” on Doom and Counter-Strike. At which point he will be parachuted into Dafur with a gun and some spare clips of ammo. If his theory is correct he should have no trouble defending himself.

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    Ben from Baltimore says:

    President Bush, former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and current Secretary of Defense Robert Gates are corrupt assholes who condone torture and support the special interests, this game may have been a backdoor deal between the DoD, the former Republican controlled Congress, The White House, and game developer/publisher Ubisoft. Lobbyists/special interest agenda pushers from Washington, DC’s infamous Kay Street are visiting Capitol Hill all the time.

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    W2ed says:

    You know, there’s two really simple solutions to this idiocy:

    1. Revoke Jack Thompson’s privileges to the court room, including his license to practice law (if it hasn’t already been done), his ability to hire other lawyers to file ANY Lawsuits against video game companies, AND his ability to appear at any proceedings, either as a wtness of the court or of the case.

    2. KEEP THE MEDIA AWAY FROM HIM!!! The only real reason he has any say in the first place is that he knows how to play the media system. If every person involved with any sort of publishing outfit, be it print, TV, movies, music, or online, would ignore him when he spews any dribble about the video game industry, He’d lose reason to bother trying to piss gamers off with his stupid press releases, protests, and complete idiocy, moral or otherwise.

    I’m not one of the people who buys into his BS. He gained popularity for taking on the music industry when 2 Live crew (remember them) released a CD that, by today’s standards, is pretty tame and, in a few cases, even silly. Then came the violent, pornographic, EVIL Video Games, and what happens? He jumps from one industry to the other, spewing stupid all over his shirt and anything else in its path. I don’t see him targeting any other form of media for some of the garbage they make, and when he does say something, it’s an opinion based on what someone else says or does.

    Suggesting violent ways to kill him doesn’t help the cause, it only justify his means and reasons. Anything said and done against him is ammunition he can use to criticize YOU WANT TO FIGHT HIM, FIGHT HIM ON HIS TURF.

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    Shrike says:

    The problem is that Jack’s still got the juicy angle. People don’t do the research, so it feels right when they’re told by someone on TV (an automatic authority) that Video games cause violence.

    What would be funny as heck is to have the news story open with pong graphics or Mario as a lead-in and source material for Jack’s accusations. Bip. Bip Bip. THESE GAMES CAUSE VIOLENCE! Bip. Bip. Bip.

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    Llian says:

    A good read with valid points. One thing I hvae to wonder is, Jack is availiable to Ma and Pa pretty easily. They get to hear him for free, but I have to wonder if places like this can garner the same attention, as the general media play TO Jacks views as it gets ratings. Seeing something like this on the exact same forum that Jack dribbles his ill-researched crap would be a good counter point.

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    Conejo ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “It is a shame that America’s majority seems to be turned on by violence.”

    oh yeah because violence didn’t happen until the USA was formed.

    i mean there’s no human historical cultural fascination with violence AT ALL. i’m sure all those Romans were just watching puppet shows and not christians being mauled for sport.

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    JustChris says:

    Let’s assume in the very small chance that Jack is right, and the DOD is indeed teaming with members of the game industry to create some “kill-training” games. So soldiers are trained to be desensitized to real life violence. But besides the technology involved, what is so new about the idea? Jack is against it, just because the game industry is becoming a part of it?

    We have trained soldiers to kill without showing restraint, and we have been doing it for centuries. But now that video games are involved in an already standard act of combat training, suddenly it’s OH SNAP IT’S TIME TO BRING THE DOD TO ITS KNEES!! Also, this move actually clouds up Jack Thompson’s motives to the average person that doesn’t know anything about this guy’s history. He might appear to some as being an anti-war crusader, instead of an anti-game crusader. And against the exploitation of the military.

    So in other words, by making this video game connection he’s almost arguing against the Iraqi war, by accident, I may add. I can hear him in front of the protesters now. “NO, NO! It’s the VIDEO GAMES I’m going against, not the stupid war!!”

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    Shavo says:

    Does Jack realize that the shooting in these game is nothing like shooting a real gun. Las time i checked on any gun there are no toggles or X or O buttons to shoot. There is no way that anyone can train to shoot a gun on a video game system.

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    Mad_Scientist ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Tye The Czar

    “We just need to persuade the ESRB that now would be the right time to enforce their own ratings like the MPAA does for movies. “

    The ESRB ratings are better enforced at the retail level than the MPAA ratings. Since the very first FTC report came out that compared retail enforcement between the two, the ESRB has always come out better. Every new report shows substantial improvement in the enforcement of ESRB ratings, and the latest shows that the retail enforcement of them is now on a par with Movie Theatres’ enforcement of the MPAA ratings. (Theatres have generally done a better job enforcing MPAA ratings than retail establishments).

    Despite this, attacks against video games have not slowed down, at least that I’ve noticed.

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    Tye The Czar says:

    It is a shame that America’s majority seems to be turned on by violence. It’s just being overused now. I don’t think we would feel this way if a huge war had recently happened on our home turf like in Europe(leading them to be more sensitive to death than NSFW things; after all that’s just more reasonable than vice versa). We just need to persuade the ESRB that now would be the right time to enforce their own ratings like the MPAA does for movies. Then we wouldn’t have any of these annoying political excrements. I really think it’s the simples and quickest decision I could come up with, oy. But I KNOW you won’t listen to my suggestion because I never saw replies related to it.

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    Vinzent says:

    Oh my….

    In a political landscape that has determined “if your against the war, your un-american”, Thompson is going after the military. I’m not saying that what the DoD is doing is right, but they are all about the recruitment numbers right now and they aren’t going to let an annoying attorney from Florida stand against them. Especially one that is already facing disbarment.

    Knowing how this administration likes to assassinate the character of it’s enemies, Thompson may have just ensured that his disbarment runs a little smoother and faster.

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    Saint13 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Ha. JT has been watching Discovery Channel’s “Rise of the Video Game”. It sounds like he’s ripping all this straight out of the video games/military simulators segment.

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    BOBBY ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I hate to say it, but he also mentioned that the games desensitize soldiers on the effects of war. I guess that is why many of our soldiers come back with pts. I also fell that statements about video games being more influential in the violence of kids then movies and other media are complete bull shit. I grew up my whole life playing violent video games: mortal kombat series, halo 1, 2, and 3, bf2 and 2142, gta series, etc… But you know what, after all those games I played, I still can’t seem to bring myself to watch faces of death and the banned from TV series.

    When my ship was in Seattle for firing school training, my shipmates and I went out to watch hitman at the movies. Afterwards of the movie, I remember wanting to be a hitman and wanting to find out how much it paid. It is sad to say at JT’s expense, while the whole time I was thinking about this, common since was there with me too. Video game violence is too over the top, which is not believable. Movie violence like the saw series is believable. Do you know why, because there are already people like that who have had a very rough childhood and could care less about their own life (hell, what else do they have to live for).

    The weird thing is (I was just thinking about this when I was writing), I have never thought about killing anyone, even the people I hated while playing games. It is weird because I would think people would have at least thought about revenge while playing. Nope. All I can think about is winning the game.

    They have shown the effects of games on the brain, saying that it is more active then normal. Look at some of the guys who just lost the football game for his team (real life football), I bet money that their brains are more active being pissed off at themselves then a guy on CS getting killed by an aimbot. I am tired of politicians and “experts” using my hobby, love, and freedom as a scapegoat. I wrote to Clinton about my stand with her tactics (wasn’t a hate letter, but was not a nice letter either), I also encourage others the write to politicians as well. (Just now when to pick a fight and when not to)

    But to the topic, why is Jack doing this? Is it no enough that he is on the edge of being disbarred but he has to go and pick another fight. I do think that he is doing something good for the gaming community though, he is crying wolf. When future politicians start to think about taking similar roles, I can’t help to think that they will see what Jack has done and take the hint.

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    RawSteelUT says:

    Ah, Jacky Boy. Didn’t he realize that James McCarthy’s downfall also came from trying to go after the military? There are few things that will evaporate people’s sympathy for someone, and peeing all over the men and women defending the country is one of those.

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    mary says:

    That may be true but remember jacks only wish is to become famous he cares nothing about kids or their safety. he is asking how much can i get out of the government video companies and anyone else who opposes him

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    mary says:

    look at what jt is up to
    1) I am trying to stop my disbarrment
    2) I have lost some credibility in the media so I need a new avenue
    3) there are a lot of people against the war in Iraq so why not blame the military for school shootings
    4) that is one group that is stupid enough to follow me
    5) in public act very competent and articulate, so people will believe me
    6)n in private get all the gamers on line to become irate and threatening to support my beliefs and I will have proof that all gamers are violent

    It is pure genius

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    GryphonOsiris ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    You know, I’d love to see JT as a criminal prosecutor, simply to see the dumb crap he comes up with to try and prove his case. I know that he’d be filled with contempt of court in his first week, and probably tampering with evidence, but still, would be funny to see.

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    Malevolent says:

    This is just unbearable…JT going up against the DoD? He’s putting himself up for a big fall possibly to his death or early forced retierment whichever comes first.

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    Conejo ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    speaking of Thompson, he’s updated his florida supreme court dockets with a new filing the day after X-Mas.


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    sqlrob ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    <jack mode=on>
    My disbarrment is proof that these allegations are true, they are just trying to shut me up

    That’s the first thing that jumped to mind when I saw this story.

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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Well, I was being fair.


    One is… “one”.
    Two is… “a couple”.
    Three is… “a few”.

    “numerous” has to be more than “a few”.

    So I figured they could come up with “a few” anyway. :)

    NW2K Software

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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I believe I mentioned that closing gap between John Bruce and LaRouche.

    This morning, someone pointed out this article:


    Yeah, the “Unholy Alliance”: John Bruce “Jack” Thompson and Lyndon LaRouche, the worshippers of Demon-Pretenders-To-The-Throne-Of-Heaven (as evidenced by their use of lies and deceit, and in the case of LaRouche at the least, brainwashing in the name of their “God”).

    As with other posters, this is my favorite lie… er… line:

    “Thompson has won numerous law suits in state courts against the video game industry’s Entertainment Software Association, for marketing violent games, only to have those lawsuits overturned in Federal Court.”

    I’ll leave you to your research to find THREE (“numerous” implies many, which is more than “few” which references “3”).

    Good luck with that.

    NW2K Software

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    E. Zachary Knight ( User Karma: 2 ) says:

    @ Terrible Tom

    I will have to agree with jdkjr25, Dog Welder and Black Manta.

    John Bruce is a threat. We may know he is full of it but the average Joe does not.

    When John Bruce claims that he is winning and we say he is not, who is right? Well we know that he is not winning on legal grounds. We know that for a fact. But who is winning the public opinion? I think that one is a close call and one that John Bruce could easily claim.

    The average American does not research the “experts” on television. Most will blindly follow their advice because after all TV would not lie to us.

    That is why it is unsafe to ignore John Bruce. That is why Hal has told us to be more vocal and counter his arguments in a civil manner. Not just here, but in our communities.

    As for your claim that the ECA only cares about John Bruce, GamePolitics may be owned by the ECA, but this site is not the ECA. This is a branch of the overall movement. The Purpose of GamePolitics is to report political and legal stories involving games. John Bruce is a vocal part of that. Looking at the recent history on the site, The last story that had anything to do with John Bruce was posted on December 19. That was a week ago. Is that too often for you?

    I am sure that if Hillary, Lieberman, or Romney were as vocal about their stance on video games as John Bruce, they would be reported on just as often. But look at the side bar of the main page at tell me how many John Bruce stories are there. 132. That is how many. The categories overlap, but I think the overall ratio is somewhere along the lines of 10:1 of general stories to John Bruce stories. That may seem like a lot, but when he is in the news and the courtroom attacking games as much as he is, you will see why.

    With John Bruce, it is not a fight to retain video gaming rights. It is a fight to regain the public opinion on video games. So I think that he is well within his rights to claim victory on that front, but it is not a sure victory. You canceling your ECA membership will not help our side in any way. We need that support and leadership now more than ever.

    E. Zachary Knight
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    Spooky says:

    Ah, I see this for what it truly is – it’s positioning.

    JT KNOWS he’s gonna loose his license, so he sends out this “press release” propaganda. Then, when the judgment comes down, he can blame it on the vast conspiracy and the DoD.

    Sheer genius. Well, as far as JT goes anyway. So … um … actually it would be sheer stupid, I guess. 😉

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    JustChris says:


    You said “Jack will one day blame Video Games for the Pearl Harbor attack.”

    He already did, indirectly that is. Jack once said that Japan’s assault of violent video game culture on the United States like a second Pearl Harbor.

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    vellocet says:

    “Virginia Tech’s Cho was an obsessive high school player of the military-themed CounterStrike, according to the Washington Post.”

    I wonder how the Washington Post would respond if they knew that their erroneous report was constantly used in this fashion (i.e. tying it to some of the most horrible tragedies in recent times).

    Any possibility on writing them and finding out? Perhaps they actually stand by their original statement? Because if they don’t they should know that some jackass is out there perpetuating it (the statement that Cho played CounterStrike also ended up in that video put out by that senator in New York).

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    CK20XX says:

    Hey, Jack finally grayed out all his hair with his bull-headed vendetta. I don’t see a single dark strand on there anymore. And maybe when he’s disbarred he’ll pull it out like Dr. Scratchandsniff.

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    Wallo ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    he’s actually a genius in disguise. He works for a secret organization that is trying to enslave the people of the world. Every word he speaks lowers the collective IQ, sending us into a world of Thompson-esque stupidity.

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    Erik ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Yeah. Jack thinks that the Washington Post is infallible. That is unless they correct an erroneous statement. Rather than “Do as I say not as I do.” its “Listen to what they said, not what they are saying.”

    In other words, Jack has no issue with clinging onto such a blatantly erronous false-fact.

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    BearDogg-X says:

    @ Benji

    I agree that Valve should sue Thompson for defamation. World Wrestling Entertainment sued the PTC for the same thing and won a $3.5 million settlement and a public apology from them.

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    Waffles ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


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    Black Manta ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Terrible Tom

    I’m late to the party, but I have to agree with jdkjr25 and Dog Welder. We and everybody else who knows about Jack may know he’s full of shit, but the average joe doesn’t. I’ve said before his strength comes from people’s ignorance and fears like any demagogue. It’s a battle for hearts and minds, which just happens to be one of the ECA’s mandates; to educate the average person who might otherwise only get their info about games from the likes of Jack. And unfortunately as Norm Kent so eloquently put it, Jack is the monkey in the tree who screams the loudest. So we have to deal with him like it or not.

    Fortunately the word is getting out. Regardless of what he said about VT, he was regarded for the first time with skepticism by the media. The Bar is finally taking action against him, the Cody Posey case was thrown out in short order which no doubt emabarrassed him, he got owned by Lorne Lanning at the VGXpo, and even Joe Lieberman has officially severed ties with him. Things aren’t looking very good for our boy, I’d say.

    Personally, I’m proud to be a member of the ECA. I’m glad to not only be in an organization where I can make a difference (and I’m part of the MD/DC chapter, closest to Washington where our impact can be most felt), but I’m also glad that I have a place to network, to meet other like-minded people and be able to attend events such as regional LAN parties. And if fighting Jack is part of the deal, I’m in. Since the bastard tried to sue both me and Dennis, I’ve got a personal score to settle anyway.

    Oh, good use of a Pantera song BTW. Though if I were to pick a Pantera song to use when talking about JT, I’d go with “Five Minutes Alone!” 😉

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    Benji says:

    I’m actually wondering if I’d like to see Valve (or whoever it is that owns CounterStrike) go after JT for defamation. I’m always the first to remind people here that defamation is tough to prove in the US, but I think they at least have a respectable case against JT.
    1) JT is making a statement (Cho trained on CounterStrike.)
    2) The statement can cause harm to someone’s reputation (Valve becomes known for creating the game that trained the worst school shooter in US history.)
    3) The fact is false (The VTech Report indicated that video games were not a factor.)
    4) JT repeats his statement while knowing, and recklessly disregarding, the truth.

    Defamation is never open-and-shut in the US, but I think there’s enough there that the case would at least have merit – maybe enough that JT would rather settle, and perhaps enough that it’d push JT back from that line he’s been toeing for so very long.

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    Monkey Face ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Um….how the hell does he plan to do anything if hes disbarred?
    Jack Thompson is just getting pathetic

    If this moron actually took on things one at a time like just focusing on the m rated games being sold to kids he might actually achieve something
    but no he goes in way over his head and acts like a total idiot making baseless claims and calling gamers a bunch of meanies who dont like him because hes christian

    and he calls himself an attorney? hell! id make a better one than him.
    seriously im starting to think hes working for the game companys he sues lol(publicity sells)

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    Baggie ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Ah yes, Jack Thompson and his mount, the +5 Scapegoat.

    I mean is he trying to piss off the people that could have his right to practice law revoked or is he just not thinking?

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    Delta says:

    Meh, Thompson simply realized that his latest deals to shut down Rockstar and the GTA themed games aren’t working, so he’s switching to target all the military style games so he can FIND a plausable link between the government and violent media, in the hopes that he can prove a conspiriousy large enough to prove violent media harms children.

    But this one is just as good as the people who think America started 9/11 to be able to pass the Patriot Act and invade Iraq. Theories that you will have a tough time proving, thus this is another losing battle for our dear friend Thompson.

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    Thefremen ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    What a hipocrite! He continues to insist that he played CS in spite of there being no evidence, but refuses to acknowledge that Cho played Duke Nuke ’em Forever just because that game isn’t out.

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    Dog Welder ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @Cidas — haven’t seen “M” but can always tack it onto the Netflix queue.

    @Terrible Tom — I think you misunderstand the purpose of this site. Despite the fact that it’s owned by the ECA, it’s a site about video game politic news. Jack Thompson makes news. This site reports it. I haven’t seen any change in the JT news coverage since ECA became the parent company of gamepolitics.com (and I’ve been reading since long before that happened).

    As far as Jack “not being a threat” goes, I fully disagree. The groups you cite KNOW he’s a washed up lawyer. I know it. You know it. Dennis knows it. Etc. Those groups are a painful minority of people that Jack reaches, though. Normal people who know nothing about video games (such as my parents) see people like Jack on TV spouting his “facts” and suddenly think video games cause school massacres. I even have friends who KNOW BETTER than to believe people like Thompson, and they even get taken in. (I’ve taken the time to set them straight.)

    Take a look at all of the politicians who now spout the same talking points as Jack. Take a look at the politicians who listen to his lies and try to pass legislation to restrict or ban games. You’re trying to tell me that he has no influence?

    People might be wising up, but simply ignoring Jack will not make him go away. That strategy was tried by Doug Lowenstein and it failed miserably.

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    Anonymous says:

    @ Raziel3024,

    At least I remember something on the DVD about it. The similarity is in the use of the spears and camera angles to make the crowd seem bigger (and nastier, stronger…) than it is, not in the message.

    They look alike at least.

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    jdmdsp911 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    One last parting shot before he loses his license I see. Go ahead thompson, start bringing these trash complaints against the government. See how fast they place you in Levinworth.

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    Cidas ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Dog_Welder

    I give you that there are war scenes in it, but I was looking at it from the icnimatic perspective of what Griffith employed in making those scenes. I think the impact they had was far greater in film narrative than it promotes heroics. I also agree that the soldiers were considered heroes in the context of the film, as people on opposing sides will often honor thier soldiers. We do the same now with honoring our soldiers currently serving in Iraq and Afganistan.
    While movies show more of the ‘reality’ or ‘authenicity’ or war, and I cannot speak from expereince but I know that it must be a thousand times more terrible thatn what you see on film, the sad part of it is that there is more often than not, a progtaginst protrayed with heroic acts that are exaggerated greatly. I’m glad you cited those films though, they are two of my favorites.
    On another note, have you seen the film M?

    I’m sure this has been asked about, but when does Jack Thompson, John Bruce Thompson’s disbarrment procedings continue?

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    Anonymous says:

    @ Shrike,

    My pals Gil (Gilgamesh) and Sam (Sansom) want to tell you the films aren’t the very first in that line of bussness.

    I still prefer “Trumph of the will” when it comes to films. Better than most, indeed.

    It’s not because they aren’t enough people to take on the job, it’s that there never are enough of them.

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    Shrike says:

    Because there’s no longer a draft, and we’re a volunteer-only army.

    Not to mention that, regardless of what conservatives may say, the armed forces and national guard are stretched very thin, so any tools they can make or use to gain new recruits… that’s why it’s okay.

    Last movie I saw had a full song full of patriotic imagery encouraging joining the forces during the previews. Same thing, less interactive.

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    Rey ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Jack will one day blame Video Games for the Pearl Harbor attack.

    “Think about logically for a second… Japan attacked are base and where in which country our most murder simulators created? Japan!”

    Also Video Games most notably GTA were responsible for the Holocaust and not Hitler like Take 2 and Midway would lead you to believe.

    Lastly 9-11 was the direct result of Microsoft Flight Simulator and Ace Combat.

    And somehow Konami killed the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.

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    Matthew ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Oh Jack, never change.

    Suggesting that the Department of Defence is in part responsible for teenage killers? Genius touch. I can’t see any negative consequences coming from that statement whatsoever.

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    Evan ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Jack is nuts, but I do not doubt for a second that the military is targeting young teens with their America’s Army franchise.

    Why is it ok for the military to do this?

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    jkdjr25, formerly bayushisan ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @Terrible Tom

    Actually I couldn’t disagree more. Thompson is a threat, just not the obvious kind. He represents a more subtle threat, and one that’s a lot more sinister in its own way.

    What’s he doing is an age old tactic of winning people to your own way of thinking. Repeating a lie over and over again until the lie is accepted as truth. We all know that the VTech killer, Cho, didn’t play Counter Strike or other such games. Does the grandmother in Chatanooga, TN know? How about the mom from Tulsa, or the dad from White Plains? He’s, currently anway, a lawyer and there are many people who will put stock in what he says because of that, there are also people who will believe him because of his CLAIMS (and I emphasize that word) to be a Christian.

    It is incumbent upon us, as the gaming community, to use our voice here, and elsewhere to expose the lies and make people aware of the mistruths that are being spread about us.

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    Terrible Tom ( User Karma: -1 ) says:

    If ECA continues this moronic defense against Jack Thompson I’ll refuse to renew my membership. It is a waste of my money and a waste of everyone’s money really. When I first learned of it I was excited and motivated to make change. Now that everything is about Jack Thompson, eh that motivation is nearly gone and my faith that the ECA is actually going to make a difference in the gaming politics realm has been altered to say the least.

    Really GP, are you just trying to keep the ECA members entertained? The entertainment value of the ECA’s fixation on JT is significant but I’d much rather make a difference in the politics surrounding video games. It is kind of why I joined in the first place.

    It is getting pathetic. If we continue focusing on individuals such as Jack Thompson instead of the government then Gamers are going to LOSE. Even Lyndon LaRouche is more of a threat. You must realize that Jack Thompson has problems convincing anyone in the court that his claims are legit. Remember where the REAL threat is located. Washington is where the effort should be. There are a great number of other issues we should be dealing with none of which include the likes of Jack Thompson.

    I couldn’t disagree more with Hal Halpin in terms of Jack Thompson being a threat. He is a washed up lawyer that will literally try anything just to be a pain in the ass to the gaming industry. Other lawyers know this, judges know this and anyone that is involved with Video Game Politics will know this. He has a personal vendetta against video games and that simply doesn’t stand ground in court. It never will, he fails before he even tries.

    What we should be doing is focusing on education and our constitutional rights as gamers, game developers and consumers. Artists, laborers, worker bees or whatever else you want to label yourself as so the mainstream media and ultimately the public will begin to lose their ignorance. Once people understand that video games ARE NOT only for children and that fine artists produce these games have the right, according to the constituion of this nation, to develope these games for whatever audience they please then the public will forget about Jack Thompson. Define the target audience and then provide the education on the issues and let them decide for themselves.

    Cursing him durring interviews and on articles like this means nothing but good press for him. This bickering back and forth is what gives him the strength to continue. We should be completely ignoring him and providing people with our possition which should be presented in a professional manner. Get people to relate to us so we can move on instead of wasting time bickering back and forth and calling eachother jackasses. We sound like a bunch of drama queens from middle school god damn it.

    So my fellow ECA members I’d like to say I still support the idea of the ECA. I’ve written e-mails and messages to Hal and other officers of the ECA to see how I can make a difference and volunteer my time at gaming conventions such as GDC and AGDC even though I’m paying really good money to attend. Hell, I’m even working on starting a ECA chapter where I am located. I’m surprised how quickly I get a response. Its awesome that they are they dedicated to actually read messages. But I do not agree with this Jack Thompson issue, we are going about it the wrong way.

    Fact is I really like the idea behind the ECA and I want to actually be apart of something that is going to make a difference. But this fixation on washed up lawyers is not what I’d call a productive means to bring about real change. I dont want to be a member to say I’ve given money to bring about change, I dont want the benefits or discounts, I don’t even want a custom ECA banner or a membership card. I want to actually change something, not write about how much of a dickhead Jack Thompson is. ANYONE can write articles about how Jack Thompson is worthless. Either way I’m dedicated to bring about change that game developers and gamers deserve and I’m just looking for the opportunity to do so.

    “There comes a time within everyone
    to close your eyes to what’s real

    No comprehension to fail
    I vacuum the wind for my sail
    Can’t be the rest
    Let others waste my time
    Owning success is the bottom line.

    Like a knife into flesh
    After life is to death
    Pulling and punching the rest of duration
    NO ONE can piss on this determination.” – Phillp Anselmo (PANTERA)

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    chuck ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    This is just Jack spouting his usual tripe. He has a first amendment right to be wrong and to put forth whatever wacked-out conspiracy theory he wants. Heck, he’s not even *that* far off-base on the principle of the thing: I loves me my Bioshock and Gears of War, but I refuse to play AA or FSW on general principle. War is not a goddam video game.

    But of course, Jack can’t get himself any allies, since he’s wrong on the facts, and comes not from any genuine concern over dismantling the power and influence of the military, but from a kooky conspiracy-land, a repressive moral ideology, and overall abrasive righteous assholishness. Gosh Jack, you were so close. I wonder how much it’s going to matter though when the Florida courts are finally finished with you. Perhaps you should start thinking that it means more, because credibility will be *all* you have left.

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    BlindGibbon says:

    As an attorney I can tell you one thing,

    If you are on trial for disbarment for a certain behaviour,
    YOU DO NOT go out and commit the SAME ACTS that put your license in jeopardy the first time, ESPECIALLY while the judge is still deliberating!

    This guy is friggin nuts and needs to be disbarred for the sake of the rest of the legal profession.

    I do not believe I that there is a single sentence of his statements that doesn’t violate some rule of Code of Ethics. Incluing “Hi, I’m Jack Thompson”

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    Erik ( User Karma: 0 ) says:




    HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Did Thompson’s therapist fuck around with his meds for shits and giggles? This is completely and outrageously insane. Now Thompson is going to try to go against the federal government itself with shaky facts and downright lies with more holes in it than a colander? The claims he made are going to take the defense department about 5 seconds to refute. Cho didn’t play Counter-strike, that was retracted by the Washington Post. There is no evidence of a causal relationship between the Omaha mall shooting and games (I’m leading towards depression and child abuse on that one). And there has been no link at all whatsoever between games and violence.

    Also I would bet good money that many of that 60% of Americans who believe that there should be a federal law prohibiting the sale of M rated games to minors likely (and erroneously) believe there is a similar law for R rated movies. Its a VERY common misconception. And if 60% of Americans want such a law then 60% of Americans want an unconstitutional law. Therefore: tough shit.

    Congratulations on throwing your career in the shitter Jacktard. The welfare line is on the right.

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    Pierre-Olivier ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    He really got delusions of grandeur. He didn’t dare attack Microsoft (the Halo case) and I’m sure he’ll take his charges back (if he doesn’t, then he’s one of those peoples who shouldn’t even touch a mouse, and even less a lawyer licence).

    Jack seems to enjoy putting oil on the fire. In a few months the judge will be saying “Bravo Jack. You just disbarred yourself.”

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    GryphonOsiris ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Ken

    I’d love to see him try to preach his ‘good word’ to the die hards over there. Hell, they might even become best buddies since their POV’s are so aschew.

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    Anonymous says:

    @ Ken,

    This is something I said to many war protesters that ask for immediate retreat.

    Doesn’t work, the entitlement feeling is too strong.

    He’d stay in the green zone and would balme the suicide bombings on video games anyway.

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    A-wel Cruiz ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Thompson is, was, and always be an ignorant, narrow-minded, fool. The fact that he continues to site that fucking Washington Post article that they recalled proves that.

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    EvilTikiMan ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Yet another piece of utter BS on the part of Jack Thompson. *sigh* He honestly never knows when to keep his big mouth shut, or rather knowing refuses to. This man seriously needs so counciling, by someone other then a family friend. Of late i have been working on a theory of why he hasnt already been dis-bared. It is still full of holes and such, but it is still just an idea. Here it is:
    As we have all noticed ever since he was filed for a Dis-barment hearing he has been getting more and more vocal and even more wild in his anti-gaming statements. Filing pictures of gay porn in suit documents, wild accusations that attempt to tie together to separate groups/things, filing to add more and more offenders on to his case(s), and so on. Call me crazy but i believe that he is trying to jam the already slow moving cogs of the judicial system by overloading it with his BS. This may sound like a conspiracy theory, bordering on the level of insanity or something to that nature, but I still cant help but believe something to this effect.

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    Awol ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    How do we go about sending Press Releases proving that Jack’s facts in his press releases are false? Ignoring him doesn’t work so why not beat him at his own game. For every press release he sends we would send on stating the truth for each of his lies. Lets face it posting here pasting the truth doesn’t help us much.

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    Zerodash ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I believe Lyndon LaRouche also believes in a conspiracy between the US government and the games industry. The (conspiracy) theory is that the USA is trying to turn children into trained soldiers through videogames.

    The fact that JT still continues to play the V-Tech card is moving from disgraceful to hilarious. Perhaps he should comment on the devout christian kid who shot up that church.

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    Looking back on history, Jack’s actions mirror other figures. In particular, there is the individual that demonstrates what would happen if Jack had any real power at his disposal:


    As it is, Jack is more like a certain psychiatrist who rallied people and the government against the evils of corrupt media influencing children into being more aggressive:


    However, Jack Thompson is, in all reality about as effective as a certain cartoonist who is basically opposed to, well, anything and everything:


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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Once again, John Bruce knowingly and INTENTIONALLY tries to turn the attention away from the FACTS.

    Cho having suffered social and mental difficulties since very early in his life. Note that John Bruce skips way into Cho’s High School years. Ignoring and attempting to get others to ignore those long term issues.

    Cody Posey’s long term verbal, mental, physical, and near sexual abuse. Yet, once again, John Bruce wants that abuse ignored in favor of his own personal, religious, and political agendas.

    Hawkins, the mall shooter, also suffering from long term mental illness and possible drug abuse. Such evidence revealed in the recent public release of various documents: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22402970/
    It would seem rather… odd… that John Bruce would push his Press Release so close to such a release of documents. Perhaps he’s attempting to cover up this information by drowning the general public with misinformation, lies, and deceit, which is par for the course really.

    Quite frankly, the distance between John Bruce and LaRouche is getting closer and closer. Well, LaRouche has a thing for the British Empire. Maybe John Bruce could increase his attack on Japan. After all, it was he who claimed “Pearl Harbor II”.

    NW2K Software

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @Ghost Coins

    Games didn’t make that little pissant shoot up the mall, a F@#$ed up mind and narcissism did.

    Pfff, when did such things as FACTS ever stop JT? Truthiness is what matters… 😉

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    jds ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    GryphonOsiris Says:

    December 27th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
    @ Icehawk

    But the question is; If he’s a failure at being a failure, does that make him a winner or a loser?

    I think it makes him the number one loser.

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    Dog_Welder ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @Cidas — d’oh…I meant Griffith when I typed this. Yeah, Birth of a Nation was VERY controversial, but it really was what one would consider the first real war movie, and the soldiers were lauded as heroes in the film. The inherent racism of the time (and in the film) comes out in the latter half of the film. And “The General” did have the exact opposite tone (it was a comedy, after all) but the brave soldier manages to get the girl at the end.

    Neither are like the jingoistic WWII movies that cropped up on the 50s and 60s, but that was also a different era.

    War movies from the past couple of decades have gone out of their way to show the horrors of war. Again, the cultural tone changed thanks to the Vietnam War. I used to know a couple of vets who were on the Normandy beach. One refused to go see “Saving Private Ryan” because he really was trying to forget about being there. Another who saw it said it was the closest any movie had ever gotten to what it was like, but it still really wasn’t close (the real event was far worse).

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    swiftdraw says:

    Isn’t this similar to what Joe McCarthy did right before he finally went down? Taking the military to court on these things generally doesn’t end well.

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    Ghost Coins ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Apologies to all for the rant, but something about bringing up the Nebraska shooting just set me off…read an article on foxnews about the kid earlier, and Mr. Thompson’s little comment just set me off.

    I still think Mr. Thompson’s idea would be great for a movie. A sort of iRobot meets the Manchurian Candidate…I have to start writing this stuff down. If Napoleon Dynamite can do well, imagine what this will rake in.

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    jds ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Does Jack not realize that the DoD will have more ducks in their row than any disbarrment proceeding Judge or attorney?

    Yeah, right Jack, you go ahead and beat America. Good luck with that.

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    Ghost Coins ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Didn’t Mr. Thompson try to get the President to testify on one of his cases at one point? This is starting to come together…the conspiracy goes all the way to the top. Mr. Thompson is a man out to find the truth no matter what the cost…where the hell is Don LaFontaine and a movie script when you need it?

    in other news,

    Warrior culture has been around for, oh, several thousand years. Videogames…not so much. You want to bitch about mediums that make war and violence attractive…call the MPAA and take a bite out of them. The line about glamour, cool, and risk-free sounds like a movie to me. No interaction, no failure, no lost time, no lost life, etc. Yup, sounds like Hollywood.

    /rant on

    And where does this prick get off chatting up the Nebraska shooting. I thought those cards fell at the feet of a religious zealot of a parent, a troubled teen who had a bevvy of priors in violence and theft, and a lack of medication and treatment that eventually led to a doc holiday-esque shooting spree where he didn’t care if he lived or died, but that he would be remembered forever. Games didn’t make that little pissant shoot up the mall, a F@#$ed up mind and narcissism did.

    Last thought. The funny thing about video games is that you are remembered for saving the world, being a hero, righting wrongs, etc, etc, etc. Last I checked, all the asshats that ever shot up schools or malls were looking to be remembered. They’ve all said it. Every ‘goodbye note’ and every bit of footage from videos that were made held that little bit of gold.

    Infamy for the rest of eternity is better than being nothing for life, but we all remember their names and what they did. How many Honors students can you name? How many student athletes that have done community service can you name? How many good kids go through this world every day, doing the right thing, playing video games, and not shooting up the local community go unnoticed? Yet, we remember these bastards that decide to go on a shooting spree because they want to be remembered. For a moment in their lives they are somebody, and have created something that will be recalled long after they have died. So, who, really, should we be giving a damn about? The little bastards who shoot up a mall, or the ones who truly deserve a place on the front page of the newspaper. Frankly, the shooters should have an obit, small obits, and nothing more.

    /rant off

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    AgnostoTheo ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    LMAO! Jack is gonna take on the Defense Department? He doesn’t stand a snowball’s chance in hell. Time to sit back and watch Jack THompson Fail… again.

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    gs2005 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Johnny Bruce Thompson seems to be stuck in “chicken little” mode. Since he is unable to litigate successfully, maybe this is his best option.

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    Mnementh2230 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    This is just so pathetic…

    I really don’t know what else to say. GP did a great job of rebutting JT, and ApokalypseNow said what I would have said. I guess I can only express my opinion, which I did in the first sentence.

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    MasterAssassin ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Wow I thought him trying subpeona the president was retarded but this takes the cake. So now he’s gonna try to sue the Pentagon? Yeah good luck with that when you’ve been disbarred Jacko. He better pray they ignore him like MS did or he’s eaten alive in court. Late Christmas present as someone said earlier. I think this even beat my Wii.

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    Saladin ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Just when I thought Jack had reached rock-bottom when it came to stupidity regarding video games, he breaks out the shovel. Man, what can a guy do to make it clear that this crap’s all in his head? Maybe he needs some Ritalin or something.

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    GryphonOsiris ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Icehawk

    And that is just a peek inside the twisted and trivia filled world that is my head. I’d love to see what the Psyconaut version of my brain is, that would be fun as hell.

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    FrenchFries says:

    I’ve been a long time reader of this website but have always been simply that, a reader, and have never really responded to any comments on anything, let alone the filth of the usual Thompson readings, in fact, usually it’s the bright spot of my day, letting me get a smile while I sip my coffee, however, Jackie boy finally crossed a line in this last statement that for the first time, he has truly truly enraged me.

    I am sickened that he brought up the shooting in Omaha, that is digusting and proves (even though it didn’t need to be) that he is a massacre chaser. My aunt had a friend injured in that tragedy and why did the guy decide to go into the mall and just start firing? According to Mr Thompson the usual video games, but sadly to his case and that of the people injured and killed it was a guy who was unnoticable and wanted to do something so people would remember him. Yup, some sick dude got the notion that killing people would get him remembered. If you goto Omaha, listen to the local news, or talk to the people, no one talks about it, no one wants to remember him, no one wants to give the man what he wants. Vicitims want to be left alone, like my aunt’s friend and in a weird twist of fate, the local news is going along with their wishes and not doing stories on the guy for the same reasons. So you can see why I am so outraged to see Jackie boy bring this up.

    I swear if Jack begins to give this man the power he wanted that he would stoop to killing people randomly at a mall, all it does is proof how disgusting and sick Jack is. So yes Jack Thompson, you are a disgusting human being that thrives on the suffering of others and for the first time you’ve gone beyond a sad little man screaming for the spotlight and have crossed the line in my book, good day sir.

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    Ixian says:


    I think Napoleonic soldiers would just stare at the tank going “wtf?” (or whatever their linguistic equivalent was) long enough for it to start unloading on them, then they’d panic and break ranks trying to run away from the “magical death monster that makes the ground and men alike explode” at which point the tank would just massacre them all as they ran.

    Anyways, yeah, this is a whole new level of crazy, even for JT. Guess I’ll have to keep paying attention so I’ll see the next time he out does himself. This topic itself was wild enough I couldn’t believe it for a few minutes then had a good laugh when I realized JT was actually serious. Hope the judge over his disbarrment trial sees this, as this sort of behavior is so far out of line it should remove any doubt about JT ever being able to behave himself.

    I guess Santa is working in mysterious ways this year, as I was hoping JT would prove to the world he was crazy, and it looks like he’s well on the way to doing that.

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    Cidas ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    This will be my second post here on gamepolics, as I don’t really see anything else that I can say that no one else is already saying. However one post on these comments have caught my attention.


    War has been glorified in movies since even the earliest days of silent film (see: Cecil B. DeMille’s “Birth of a Nation” or Buster Keaton’s “The General”). Move up into John Wayne or Clint Eastwood territory, and it gets even more glorious.

    In a way Birth of a Nation glorified war, but not necessairly true. If anyone is to take this film seriously you should consider its overly racist tones, sterotypes and the reception that it recived with the general american public that included rioting in many cities. Also birth of the nation is partially credited with reviving the KKK as that film was ued at a recuirtment tool for thier causes.
    As far as cinema art goes, D.W. Griffith’s (director of the film) screenplay revolutionized cinema and helped make feature length films a legitamate venture.
    Buster Keaton’s “The General” is a film set during the civil war just like Birth of A Nation, but it differs greatly in terms of content. Buster Keaton was much like Charlie Chaplin who were both incredibly popular during the silent film era due to their different by unique styles of comedy acting. The film itself does not glorfy war as much as it is visual humor, as Keaton was known as the “Great Stone Face” and expressed himself physically in order to reach his audience and make them laugh.
    As far as John Wayne and Clint Eastwood go, you could definately label them as far more violent and “glorify” war.
    I’m sorry if I seem a bit jumpy on this, but I don’t want to see two great films that is percieved as glorifying war.

    (sorry if there were any grammer problems in this :)

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    jonc2006 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “What is increasingly clear is that the unholy alliance between the game industry and the DOD is teaching an an entire generation of kids that war is glamorous, cool, desirable, and consequence-free.”

    and you are teaching an entire generation of kids that being a narrow-minded assclown is “cool”.

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    Icehawk ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ EZK

    All to true I fear. A meer mortal mind is not meant to understand JBT. Even the attempt is hazardous, with brain damage (and a lack of grammar) at the very least.


    Damn bro you are scaring me. LOL

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    lumi ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Again I will ask, for my own benefit, really, wasn’t the original mention of CS in connection to V-Tech made by Thompson himself? Like, the day of or the first day after the shooting?

    I know I recall somewhere that HE was the source from which the Washington Post drew their information, since he said it on television, and then he used them to quote from, even after they withdrew the statement.

    Anyway, I think this is fantastic. Considering he’s in the middle of his own trial, I’d say that the right people HAVE to be seeing this as it happens, so there’ll be no hiding or downplaying his idiotic actions later when he faces the judge (literally).

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    GryphonOsiris ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Loud, well, could get him a set of Phoenix Wright dolls and let him run simulated litigations (think Dark Helmet and his dolls from Space Balls).

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    Loudspeaker ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ niceaznguy721

    Don’t answer questions you don’t want the answers to… Ok maybe you do, but I don’t.

    @ All

    This appears to be just another attempt to get himself in front of the media. Maybe he thinks since the Iraq war is such a hot political topic he’ll get airtime for his conspiracy theory? Unfortunately someone forgot to explain to him it takes some fact and LOTS of plausibility for a conspiracy theory to live. The fact is the US military is scrambling to find new ways to recruit and working on supplimenting the low recruiting numbers with automated field units (aka remote controlled vehicles). So, with that in mind, a conspiracy by the DoD to use video games to train and recruit is, well, unfounded or simply bungled.

    Ugh. In my opinion JT needs a hobby beyond video game litigation with no foundation.

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    Dog_Welder ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    In all seriousness now…back when I was a kid, back before video games existed, war was still being glorified. We had toy guns, and if we didn’t have toy guns we had sticks that we could pretend were guns.

    War has been glorified in movies since even the earliest days of silent film (see: Cecil B. DeMille’s “Birth of a Nation” or Buster Keaton’s “The General”). Move up into John Wayne or Clint Eastwood territory, and it gets even more glorious.

    Strangely enough, video games got invented and we still played the same outdoor games.

    Number of murderous rampages I’ve gone on: zero.

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    Anonymous says:

    @ Dog_Welder,

    Beware of the nails in your desk.

    Don’t ever, I mean it, EVER, try to see what they are made of.

    And that taint in the mirror? Can you see it? Then you are… done for. That’s the best I can say. Don’t imagine anything, it’ll be worse.

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    Doctor Proctor ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Yeah…it’ll be hard to take on the DoD without a liscence to practice law! Seriously, when are we gonna get the ruling on that???

    As for the the topic in the article, I guess all I can say is “Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot”. The DoD works with Boeing, are they training our airline pilots for combat? They also work with vehicle manufacturers, does that mean my car is a death machine waiting to happen?

    DoD =/= Brainwashing and combat training for tweens. It’s just another example of the military exploring all of their options and getting involved in cutting edge technology. Big whoop.

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    GryphonOsiris ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Icehawk

    Nope, it’s because John Wayne conspired with the video game industry using astral projection based on experiments conducted by the DoD involving the Philadelphia Experiment which was derived from alien technology from Roswell who had come here to investigate the Tembliska Blast after being summoned by the Knights Templar in 1191 who were trying to use the Ark of the Covenant as a radio to God.

    Any other conspiracy theories that can be thrown in there?

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    “It will be like lining up Napoleonic soldiers against an Abrahms Tank… won’t be pretty.”

    Don’t underestimate those bayonets. They can gum up those treads if you get enough stuck in them. And Abrahms aren’t designed for close-quarters combat. He’d have better luck with one of those Israeli tanks, the ones with the machine guns on all faces.

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    Tttttttttttttttt ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’m tired of him accusing video games for all violence. I’ve done research, and so far I’ve found that about two to four school shooters played violent video games. However, all of them were bullied and my theory is that people who are bullied to extreme extents will go on a school shooting. My website, http://www.flashnfuse.cjb.net, will have the results of this research (along with links to my youtube account, which is partially what the website is meant for.)

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    In addition to America’s Army there are a pair of Full Spectrum Warrior titles. And that’s about it.

    OMG! You mean teen killers have skillz in… small squad tactics?!?!!??

    *imagines the next one to snap standing behind a small group of little plastic men*

    “Gogogogogogogo! I said go! Why won’t you listen to me!!! Argh! Where’s the ‘go there’ button!”

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    cullarn ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “It will be like lining up Napoleonic soldiers against an Abrahms Tank… won’t be pretty.”

    actually this is gonna be friggen beautiful

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    E. Zachary Knight ( User Karma: 2 ) says:

    Speaking of conspiracies:

    Global warming is a cover-up for the US’s plan to dig a hole to China and dig out their foundation. To hide the fact that they are digging the hole they are dumping the dirt and rock into the ocean. That is what is really causing the oceans to rise. The Government made up the whole global warming thing to hide that fact.

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    BaronJuJu ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Question I just thought of:

    So is JT essentially calling all military personnel murder trainers? Since he lumped the entire DOD in as a whole.

    Wow, thanks for the support Jack. I will have to pass this story out to my fellow soldiers.

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    Icehawk ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Seems JBT was at the Fruity Loops again.

    The DoD is to blame for the evils of those killer training video games?… er wait is it the games that are responsible for training the killer DoD types?… er um DoD members must play so they are evil and will attack malls?….

    um Games have Guns, the DoD has guns. It was the guns all along… the guns must be playing the evil games… and controlling their users

    Did what was left of his brains explode is was it only mine trying to figure this out?

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    jadedcritic ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’m actually a little amused that people are surprised. This guy’s tried to subpeona the president, challenge microsoft. DoD completes the trifecta nicely.

    I say let him try. I’m sorry I don’t have popcorn. As if Microsoft ignoring him wasn’t enough, now we get to watch DoD go through him like an elephant through a wet paper bag.

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    GryphonOsiris ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Bobman

    Tell me about it, I’ve found that squad tactics are all but useless in most shooters. Setting up base of fire positions, flanking manuevers, and the classic Four F’s (find, fix, flank, finish) is almost impossible. Particulary so in online games, where players rush forward like they are hyped up on quat and PCP and don’t seem to care if they survive or not.

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    How retarded can JT get?

    Oh bugger, now, you’ve gone and done it. Just for that he HAS to go and do something even DUMBER…

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    mogbert ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    You know he may have a point. I mean, look at the leaps and bounds that current hardware and video game engines have gone through. It’s obvious that they are utilizing alien technology. And who has access to alien technology? That’s right, the US Military, ever since that abduction/cloning/hybrid thing they started ten years ago. However, the military doesn’t realize that the hyper-realistic graphics make the ultra-violent video gamers turn on the populace! But the aliens don’t know I had a metal plate installed in my skull, so their mind control doesn’t work on me anymore! I was awake the entire time the last time I got abducted.

    I’m on to them.
    I’m on to everybody!

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “Virginia Tech’s Cho was an obsessive high school player of the military-themed CounterStrike, according to the Washington Post.”

    I love how Jack obsesses with this, like it’s some conspiracy that the WP decided it wasn’t relevant, considering he hadn’t played games for 4 years leading up to the massacre. But then I guess he still also believes that Cho’s roommates are being paid off by the industry to deny any connection… I guess once you learn how to shoot someone in the face, it becomes like riding a bike, or something…

    So does that mean that Dick Cheney trained on GTA?

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “Virginia Tech’s Cho was an obsessive high school player of the military-themed CounterStrike, according to the Washington Post.”

    Which of course explains Cho’s obsession with smoke grenades and running while holding a knife and hopping incessantly while simultaneously calling everyone a ‘fag’… er…

    the DOD is teaching an an entire generation of kids that war is glamorous, cool, desirable, and consequence-free.

    Are soldiers actually taught that last bit? That there’s consequences to shooting the “other” guy? I’m pretty sure soldiers don’t get that kind of knowledge until they’re out on the field of battle… And war has been glamorized and made cool since… well… forever. Soldiers were always the hero. The heroic last stand, the heroic charge, the stud in uniform wooing the ladies, the brilliant tactics that save the day and vanquish the enemy, etc… you know “pointy end go in other guy…”, “the object is not to die for your country, it’s to make the other poor bastard die for his…”

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    The Bobman says:

    Um…my sister’s boyfriend often watches me play video games. And as a marine, it is nerve recking for him to observe my run and gun play style that so many shooters are prone to. So I don’t know what kind of war these games are supposed to be preparing me for. Unless the future wars have no consequence to human life, I don’t think I’ll be of much help.

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    GryphonOsiris ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Kajex

    That’s next. If the DoD doesn’t submit to his will, then he will sue the whole country because ‘obviously’ everyone is against him.

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    17-A says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHA… *gasp*

    Okay, first of all? America’s Army is old news. I think I played it five years ago, or something. Second, you’re trying to take on the U.S. government now? What would motivate you to attempt something so idiotic, other than an insatiable desperation for attention?

    We’re witnessing a DEATH SPIRAL, people. I plan on going up in my SimCopter and enjoying the view.

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    Andrew Eisen ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “Virginia Tech’s Cho was an obsessive high school player of the military-themed CounterStrike, according to the Washington Post.” -Thompson

    Like GP said, the reference has long since been deleted. Here is the one sentence that Thompson is basing his whole “Cho played CounterStrike” theory on:

    Several Korean youths who knew Cho Seung Hui from his high school days said he was a fan of violent video games, particularly Counterstrike, a hugely popular online game published by Microsoft, in which players join terrorism or counterterrorism groups and try to shoot each other using all types of guns.” -Washington Post

    Andrew Eisen

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    E. Zachary Knight ( User Karma: 2 ) says:

    Aside from that, the small universe of games with a DoD connection doesn’t seem like especially fertile ground for a Thompson-style jihad. There are no crazed axe murderers, no hookers to rob, no carjacking, no simulated drug usage.

    Don’t forget no cop killing.

    But on another note, I am liking Inhofe more and more. First he gets GreenPeace mad at him and now John Bruce. Love it.

    I can’t wait to see how this all plays out.

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    GryphonOsiris ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Steel

    Or gets him abducted in the middle of the night by a shadowy goverment agency.

    But then again, better to have him live in humiliation, I think.

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    BaronJuJu ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    LOL, The man is grasping at straws. Or is this going to formulate in an attempt to delay/dismiss his case before the Florida Bar at a future date. For a man that whined to Referee Tunis to delay his disbarment trial due to family issues, this man has spent an inordinate amount of time recently between the DOD and his failed lawsuit in New Mexico (No real surprise there).

    I see he has upgraded his description of Counter Strike as well to “military themed” instead of “murder simulator”….changes to fit whoever he is trying to bilk money from.

    Where is the unholy alliance between the game industry and the DOD? Only in the mind of JT

    I can’t wait to see how this conspiracry theory will spin to once JT starts to get his ass handed to him by the DOD.

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    Tom ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It’s not just that this man is an idiot, it’s that he’s a condescending idiot.

    It takes a special kind of fool to ignore reality when it’s standing right in front of your face, but Jack Thompson has done this consistently.

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    ApokalypseNow says:


    Exactly – if Jack were really interested in the truth, you’d think he would have used our oft-repeated rebuttals of his weak arguments to reformulate the basis for his attacks. In light of his inaction on that front, we can reasonably assume that he is either a) incapable of rational thought, or b) not interested in the truth, just interested in a dollar value with a healthy number of zeros at the end. Neither speaks very well of his character.

    But then we already knew all that.

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    GameDevMich ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I work for a DoD contractor, which in fact creates training simulations…but the simulations are for already recruited participants. These simulations do not reach the hands of typical consumer gamers. The only serious link between the DoD and the video game industry is the growing trend of using game engine technology to more rapidly create training sims.

    For once, from first hand experience, I can completely deny Mr. Thompson’s allegations and dismiss then as ignorant.

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    GryphonOsiris ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Immortal

    and of course most of JT’s facts have been made up by him personally in order to give him an excuse to get involved in certain case. Next thing you know he’s going to say that the kid killed by that tiger played Zoo Tycoon and was abusing his animals in the game.

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    CMiner ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Upping the ante again… This seems to be a man who takes the “shoot for the moon, so if you miss you’ll still be among the stars” saying a little too seriously. What will it be next year, the U.N. ?

    Blatant misinformation, insinuation, accusations without supporting evidence, citing of discredited reports.. aren’t these the things a professional, especially a lawyer (Not to mention a rational adult) are supposed to avoid?

    And he wonders why there are bar complaints against him. Speaking of those, anyone have an idea of when that trial’s supposed to pick up again?

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    GryphonOsiris ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Black Ice

    It will be like lining up Napoleonic soldiers against an Abrahms Tank… won’t be pretty.

    I wonder sometimes what goes on in JT’s brain. I mean is it like Caboose from Red Vs Blue, or like the Milkman Conspiracy from Psyconauts?

    Perhaps JT should say that there is a conspiracy between the Illuminati and the gaming industry next, or perhaps the Templars and Hershey’s chocolate, or any number of wild ass, base-less claims.

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    ApokalypseNow says:

    Wow, more lies and willful ignorance from Jack. I can’t say I’m surprised, by this or anything else the man has done in recent memory. The depth of his ignorance knows no bounds, ignorance of video games, the legal profession, and simple facts in general.

    So, how long until we hear a verdict on this ass-hat’s disbarment case?

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