January 4, 2008
The results of last night's Iowa Caucuses are in and the news is not good for the two candidates who hold the most strident views on regulating video game content.On the Republican side, Mitt Romney, who lumps violent video games into what he terms an ocean of filth, was badly beaten by Mike Huckabee.
Among Democrats, Hillary Clinton saw both Barack Obama and John Edwards win more of the popular vote. Clinton has previously proposed video game legislation in the U.S. Senate. She recently told Common Sense Media that she would support such legislation if elected president.
The New Hampshire primary is next.
Comments
1. Hilary didn't win.
2 Mitt Romney didn't win.
3. Obama won.
Now if that can carry through to all the other states I would be extremely happy.
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
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Random Tower
I think we all would. Well, except for the Republicans.
Obama seems to be a somewhat decent character.
I don't know how he can say virtual killing, maiming, and "torture" is worse than real torture in the form of waterboarding.
Although it was interesting to see Iowa vote against the whole "we need to government to regulate the filth" type of idea.
Let's just all hope that the folks in New Hampshire are in the same mood as the folks in Iowa.
I'm really fucking suprised she's on the board of Wal-Mart.
This is merely the first step. We'll see how this plays out in the not too distant future. Still, I'm happy that the "I hate Freedom of Speech" crowd did poorly. There's hope for us, yet.
Sources: http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0021,harkavy,15052,5.html
and
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0207-34.htm
But a simple Google search of Hillary Clinton and Wal-Mart will find a lot of returns.
January 4th, 2008 at 10:54 am
pity Huckabee (the top pick for popular vote) hates mexicans, muslims and gays.
HAHAHAHA!!!! i can't stop laughing at your comment! I really don't care about the 2008 elections this year because i'm moving out of the US in febuary.
On the contrary! Even if you're moving out of the US, you should care. I've been living in Switzerland the past decade and I still make it a point to vote (absentee ballots), because you never know when you'll want to go back. I also really, really want to be able to feel welcome in my homeland again.
Besides, even if I naturalize here and throw away my citizenship, it's pretty damn hard to take the American out of a guy. Depending on where you're going, you'll notice.
*Asplodes* Expect to be taken away in the middle of the night and tortured. They're watching you..
None of the candidates are really qualfied for the position. They are politicians after all. The people most qualified for the position are out finding cures for cancer, figuring out how to launch a shuttle to mars, etc.
I'm just glad that the "politicians" who are preying on ignorance and fear of video games and other violent media are finding out that people aren't as stupid as they were hoping.
if you kill the baby beforehand then they don't clog up the prison system due to the All Childs Left Behind act.
All the Republicans are Hypocrites.
Obama is a mainstream candidate I can like that dose not suck IQ in the rom hes in....but I still like Ron Paul more :P
That;s because you're a FUCKING NAZI =P
oh yes I am a nazi because I prefer goverment without lobbying and regulated monopolies :P
Conservative = Right Wing.
Anyway, Obama strikes me as the kind of guy who would do the right thing for video games: let the industry regulate itself with some minimal guidance and worry more about the big issues, like health care. Y'know, sensible and stuff.
Fangamer
Socialism = Left Wing policy
If you want to make WWII references, you should call him fascist instead. Mussolini's government was fascist.
Fascism = Right Wing policy (taken to an extreme)
And just to contribute to the conversation, WCC is right about the candidates. I don't like any of them; the one man I was hoping would step up did not.
and the elft wing = communist, we must stop the red threat ^_~
On the scale of things hes more indapenant than republican and you ahve to give them man respect for wanting to remove the balls from the black booted big business machine, besides obama the mainstream front runners on both sides are fcking extremists!
Meh, Romney and Clinton would’ve lost even if they never cared about violent video games. They really aren’t the best candidates.
Yep, and part of the reason they aren't the best candidates is that they seem to think that videogame/media in general regulation/censorship warrants time in the campaign for president, when there are far more important issues to spend time on.
besides Ron paul will do the most "damage" to capitalism look at the current way the US goverment creates and nurtures monopolies through lobbying and buying through regulation their protection from the goverment.
Be resetting the goverment it can be changed by ignoring it it leads to a complete break down in time, prehaps that what is what you want a complete break down of capitalism and not a fix for it. ^_~
Plato was a big idea man, he was after generic truths, and at the time teachers weren't state paid, so they earned thier money the hard way.
Free market style.
The conclusions jump to themselves.
Actually the fascists were left wing too.
That doesn't mean right wing is fun either.
I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul because he is a nutjob. Huckabee is a fundie. Or as close as it does not matter anymore.
As a Democrat, I'm quite relieved that Huckabee did well in Iowa. Because, to be frank, the only GOP candidate that has a snowball's chance in hell of beating the Democratic Candidate in 2008 would be Ron Paul. I mean, it doesn't take a genius to see that the vast majority of Americans hate the direction the country is going and want it to change. Whether you think Romney is a flip-flopping hypocrite or Huckabee is a creepy Jesus freak, when you boil both down to their core message, they're really just chanting "More of the same, More of the same, More of the same, More of the same". Ron Paul was the only GOP runner that wasn't beating the Status Quo drum.
People can be stupid sometimes, but we aren't fecal-throwing retarded. Even the lab monkey can only push the red button and get shocked so many times before it dawns on him that he has to push the blue button to get the yummy banana.
you are incorrect. While the Nazi party was the "National Socialists" they were in fact facists. Their idealology was very right wing.
Black Ice,
This is what is wrong with US politics. Conservative does not equal right-wing. Liberal does not mean left-wing. Only the activist parade thinks that way, and the screaming zealots. The rest of the US is left with no choice but to vote for who they think is the least onorous - hence the hopelessly polarized and usless 'debate' we see for 2 years leading to a Presidential race.
To whoever said Rudy was a neo-con. Perhaps you don't know who Rudy is (a closet Democrat), or just use neo-con as a slur. The only candidate that resembles a neo-conservative is Romney.
~~All Knowledge is Worth Having~~
I have to disagree with you there. I think Mike Huckabee would stand a decent chance of winning the election if he got the nomination for the republican party. At least he's talking about ideas and not crying about how the people are picking on him, unlike certain other candidates I could mention.
"Obama's Winning Formula" by Newsweek writer Howard Fineman
http://www.newsweek.com/id/84326
"Obama's Historic Victory" by Time writer Joe Klein
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1700132,00.html?xid=rss...
"Democrats voted for change, GOP for faith and values" on CNN.com
' "This is as big a generation gap as I've ever seen in politics," said CNN's Bill Schneider. '
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/03/iowa.issues/index.html
The Iowa caucus has become a true turning point in the pro-gaming movement. The gaming generation has shown it's political fangs and all the campaigns has seen it. It's a matter of time that the politicans are going to start looking at how Hillary scared away the youth vote and find the effect of her anti-gaming views.
Fangamer
Maybe soon we'll start to see gamers in the Florida Bars Association.
*paints a target on Jack Thompson's back*
Point taken. Huckabee's at least better than that back-stabber Mitt Romney.
Nutjobs of the world unite!...oh! did I say that outloud? ^_~
but really I support him and all but even I know he has no chance and Obmaa is looking like JFK.
But I agree Huckabee is a funide but not enough of one to be auto fail but I swear the more he opens is mouth the more I turn off to him.
Steven Furtado /Anonymous
Huckabee is VERY likable as a canidante goes and could well get 40% of the vote so he is very viable still.
~the1jeffy
you are correct its a slur I group the big business nazis with the religious riche, neo conservatives focus on using religion as crowd control as they live in indulgence living off the populace and servicing the needs of their elite and rich comrades.