EA Calls Out Fox News Over Mass Effect Smear

Jeff Brown (left), VP of Communications for Electronic Arts, has requested that Fox News correct Monday’s disgraceful trashing of Mass Effect.

As reported by Kotaku, Brown sent a letter to Teri Van Horn, producer of Fox News’ Live Desk program on which the Mass Effect hatchet job was orchestrated. From Brown’s letter:

As the parent company of BioWare… EA would like you to set the record straight on a number of errors and misstatements which incorrectly characterize the story and character interactions in Mass Effect.

Your headline above the televised story read: “New videogame shows full digital nudity and sex.” Fact: Mass Effect does not include explicit or frontal nudity. Love scenes in non-interactive sequences include side and profile shots – a vantage frequently used in many prime-time television shows…

FNC voice-over reporter says: “You’ll see full digital nudity and the ability for players to engage in graphic sex.” Fact: Sex scenes in Mass Effect are not graphic. These scenes are very similar to sex sequences frequently seen on network television in prime time.

FNC reporter says: “Critics say Mass Effect is being marketed to kids and teenagers.” Fact: That is flat out false…

Brown also named several of Fox’s own programs for displaying a level of sexuality far beyond Mass Effect’s single, rather tasteful love scene:

Do you watch the Fox Network? Do you watch Family Guy? Have you ever seen The OC? Do you think the sexual situations in Mass Effect are any more graphic than scenes routinely aired on those shows? Do you honestly believe that young people have more exposure to Mass Effect than to those prime time shows?

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    Gamer Nate says:

    EA gets some Kudos for that. Fox Loses Kudos for every minute it takes them to state that they were wrong. I think thats a fair deal… now we wait… … …ok thats long enough, Fox doesn’t care about this issue, so they’ll never cover it.

    Why are we still talking about it?

    Everyone who should know that Fox is full of B.S already knows that Mass Effect does not feature “Pornographic” content. Anyone who doesn’t know that Fox is full of B.S is going to stand by their views because Fox told them that if they didn’t they wouldn’t go to heaven. Considering that Fox tells those people what their views consist of, I see no reason to talk about this any further.

    EA said what needed to be said and Fox is going to ignore them.

    If it didn’t come from Bill Oreily’s words, it is not holy. (Sarcasm*)


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    […] Microsoft dijo que todas las cosas son falsas (obvio) mediante un comunicado en el programa, EA dijo que que era mentira, y ya la “experta” psicóloga Cooper Lawrence (la que sonríe con su libro) se retractó de lo dicho. Según ella, le pregunto a alguien para informarse. Fox News entero ya se retractó por lo mismo, aunque menciona que invitó a EA para hablar del tema sin obtener respuesta. […]

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    XPatriot52 says:

    lol, people probably were watching the news and were like, “Snap, i gotta get me that game!” but it’s still dumb how they just throw info out like that…kinda propaganda like…oh yeah, thats right..

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    Spartan says:

    @Danny – A good professional oriented letter. I wish many others where so “nice”.

    Anyway, any update or follow up from EA yet? It appears that Fox is dumping the blame on Cooper and Martha is trying to play the neutral innocent (which is unbelievable) just doing her job.

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    Danny says:

    I sent an emial to Ann via her webpage one of the links above sends you to the page. This is what I wrote, I am by no means an English Major, however I did the best I can and feel that this issue needs to be addressed.

    Ma’am after watching you aper on the Fox News show The Live Desk, I feel that you have no sense of journalism. How can you speak so openly about something without any research, sources or first hand experience? I am talking about the Mass Effect segment where you presented yourself as an expert on the subject, when clearly you had no information. You should actually look up the facts about a story before you start to report on it. Many of the things you stated as facts were clearly wrong. Not only do kids not have access to these kinds of games but if they do gain access to them, it is not the industry’s fault but the parents fault. This is a game that was reviewed by the ESRB (Entertainment Software Rating Board) as a Mature game and should only be played by adults. Kids do not have the ability to buy this game unless they have an adult purchase this game for them. Ignorance on the parents fault is not an excuse to denounce the game. This only shows the kind of parenting that needs to be addressed. The sex scene that you stated was full of nudity was only 2 minutes long and showed no nudity. It would be in your best interest to apologize to EA (Electronic Arts) and Bioware for slander and misinformation. If you do feel strongly about your opinion on the game, please do the research first before you state that you understand the topic at hand. I do side with your opinion that children should not play mature video games, however the Video Game industry is a form of entertainment and protected under the first amendment. Television is also a form of entertainment that does show violence and nudity. The industry does have a right to publish games such as Mass Effect. I would like to hear a response from you and would like to hear a more accurate defense on how Mass Effect is a threat to children. Please though get the facts straight.

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    Steven Furtado says:

    Just like Gabe from Penny Arcade has said, if you want to hurt a channel, do not attack them directly, that just gives them fodder for their show. No, if you REALLY wanna hurt them, attack their sponsors. Aaaaaand here’s a list of Fox News’ sponsors and their contact addresses:


    Feel free to call, write and email them saying how we will not support a company or product that in turn supports a station full of sensationalist liars.

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    nem_pryme says:

    I think it’s pretty amusing to hear people on a news program, slam a video game, and it’s designers for distributing a game which they think could corrupt young people, when their parent affiliate airs shows like Jerry Springer on daytime television.

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    Don't suffer the ignorant says:

    Don’t let people like Cooper make a reputation as being an “expert” by simply thrashing a game they haven’t even bothered to research, or it may become a trend to gain publicity.

    Getting on another station (as well as FOX) would be preferable to entering a debate on FOX.

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    Wait! says:

    To Jeff Brown or any EA representative reading this blog: Please take your debate to CNN, MSNBC, The Daily Show or Colbert Report rather than step into the Faux News dog and pony show.

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    MR.B says:

    News corp. has invested alot into getting game related ventures (Gamespy, IGN, Fox Interactive), but that hasent stop fox news from attacking games and gamers.

    Infact, recently on IGN’s podcast “Game Scoop!” they were talking about how Fox news took their videos directly from IGN. They mentioned how they noticed their own custom avatars and they also noticed where the IGN watermark is all blurred out. Some people from IGN complained about the use of the videos to corparate and they were told that News Corp. has the right to use those videos because there are News Corp property. It’s not the first time Fox News used IGN material, they used IGN’s pics and video of Manhunt 2 in their news stories.

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    Spartan says:

    Hmmm… I must have missed something.

    Anyway very nice posts Nightwing. I fully agree with your sediments.

    I hope EA takes Faux to task and more importantly I hope the entire gaming industry rises up and makes itself know for once.

    Oddly enough I’m starting to reconsider my opinion about EA and I never thought I would ever entertain such thoughts – the humanity of it all.

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    metroidprimegmr says:

    @ C’tri

    Do I hear an echo in here? 😉
    (HINT: look 39 posts up, not including this one)

    At least now I know I wasn’t the only one thinking that! 😛

    PS: For a good laugh, Ctrl+F, type my name; look at first result.

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    MysterX says:

    EA probably spends enough on advertising their products on Fox networks that this could go somewhere if they flex those dollar signs at the right people.

    That letter escalated pwnage up to qnwage.

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    Clawy says:

    One day one of these reporters are going to discover a “Hentia” game from Japan, and report it. Leaving out that the game is made for adults only.. well then we just imagine how that will the fan.

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    Terrible Tom ( User Karma: -1 ) says:

    Group all anti-game activist into one group(this includes Jack Thompson). When replying to any attack launched by any of them, don’t say their name, just take out their name and insert “Anti-Game Activists”. Then instead of calling that individual an idiot in either a rude way or the nicest way possible try presenting facts to the misinformed public through the ignorant media source. The only people who likes hearing the bashing if anti-game activist are gamers. And really it doesn’t matter if gamers agree or not, you know they aren’t part of the anti-game crowd. Instead we should be after the public that knows little to nothing accurate about games and the game industry. The misinformed general public needs to be educated, not to be entertained by senseless bickering.

    Education is where it is at.

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    JustChris says:

    My point; when a large corparation (like Time Warner or News Corp) has any kind of issue marketshare-wise, it effects the paycheck of the guy at the very top to the janitor that cleans up after said guy at the top. Marketshare is one of the main factors in why old-media has been going on a assult on new-media as of late.

    If any game publisher was willing to accept a deal with them, News Corp would probably have the deep pockets to at least buy out some of the “competition” and knock down video games by acquiring their properties. But since no publisher is ever going to allow them to do that, Fox just sets them up for bad rep down the road.

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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Do you know what? I’ve just had one of the most significant epiphanies I have EVER had. So strong is it that I’m going to copy this post (originating at Gamepolitics.com under the article about EA’s response to the FOX News story about the game “Mass Effect”) and I’m going to post it to several other blogs. Moreover, I’m going to email this post to several individuals, including Dennis at GP, Hal Halpin at the ECA, and even Mr. Brown at EA. Will anything come of it? Maybe. Maybe not. But I’m going to do it anyway.

    Here’s the thing. This FOX News report… it was a GOOD thing. Do you know WHY it was a GOOD thing? Simple: we get to cram it down the throats of a number of high ranking and out spoken individuals, organizations, and government groups who DIDN’T comment, let along CONDEMN the quality of the news report.

    We’ve heard time and again from politicans such as Leland Yee (CA) or Senator Burrell (LA), and many others from Utah to NY. Organizations such as the PTC (Parent’s Television Council) or the CSM (Common Sense Media) or even NIMF (National Institute on Media and the Family). We’ve heard from the self-righteous such as John Bruce “Jack” Thompson or the conspiracy theorists such as Lyndon LaRouche.

    We’ve heard them all say how the ESRB does not properly research the games they rate. That the ESRB doesn’t properly inform Parents so they can make appropriate choices for their children. We constantly hear how harried Parents are and how they supposedly don’t have the appropriate resources to make wise decisions. We hear condemnation upon condemnation against the gaming industry. We hear condemnation upon condemnation against gamers themselves. We hear condemnation upon condemnation against reviewers and game news sites. We hear the cry of moral superiority over everything that is computer and video games. We hear claims that only the government can make the appropriate decisions for Parents as to what is or is not appropriate, whether it’s in regards to video games or media in general.

    But, WHERE ARE THEY NOW??? FOX News knowingly and INTENTIONALLY aired false information. Everyone at FOX News knew it. Proven just by the few statements allowed by Geoff Keighley, Cooper Lawrence had, in effect, openly lied. And other panelists aided in those lies. But where is the condemnation by politicians against FOX News for knowingly and intentionally LYING TO PARENTS who watched that story? Where is the condemnation against FOX News by the organizations and the self-righteous individuals?

    They are all silent. Someone claims that video games are responsible for a crime, and the chatter from politicians, organizations, and the self-righteous never ends. FOX News lies to Parents about video games… and you could hear immortal crickets chirping on the moon.

    I say this should be the battlecry. Not simply us screaming about and to FOX News and Cooper Lawrence. But us screaming “WHERE ARE -YOU-!” to those politicians, organizations, and self righteous individuals who’ve remained silent so far. I say if they have so much condemnation for us and our interests, then maybe we should have condemnation for their SILENCE.

    I say not only should individuals be sending intelligent, respectful CONDEMNATIONS to their politicians, those organizations (and others) mentioned, and the self-righteous individuals mentioned (and others not mentioned), but so should our organizations such as the ECA, the VGVN (who until now has appeared as nothing more than a mouth piece), EA, even the ESA, among others.

    I say it’s time we pointed a few spotlights on those who failed to condemn FOX News’ actions.

    NW2K Software

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    Falcon4196 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I say EA should get Fox to air a retraction and apology. If they refuse I think suing them for libel or slander or whatever its called. The fact is that a representative of Fox News went on national television ans told flat out lies that defamed the character of EA. Its about time that someone with some financial muscle actually held Fox accountable to the truth. Go for it EA. I would imagine the vast majority of the gaming community would be behind you.

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    Chris S says:

    Great stuff from EA, and I’m surprised that more people haven’t picked up on this but listen to the original broadcast, where Keighley asks Lawrence if she has ever played Mass Effect.
    A reasonable question, right? You’re shalling out hardcore criticism towards this game, have you had first hand experience of what has provoked you?

    According to the transcript, Lawrence replies ‘(giggling) No.’

    Listen to it and take in what she meant through the tone of her voice, it’s impossible to pick up through a transcript, but the audio tells us that she meant ‘What? No, why would I play that? It’s exclusively for teenage boys! I’m only slandering it on nationwide TV, why would I need to do something as disgusting as picking up a gamepad?’

    It sounds hysterical on my part, but I ask you again to listen to it, it’s clear this this so-called ‘journalist’ does not care a jot about understanding what they set out to harm. Genuinely disgusting.

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    LightWarrior ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    For someone who was complaining about sex and objectifying women…

    She sure is seemingly objectifying herself in that suggestive pose on the cover of her book.


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    Tyrone Biggums says:

    I’m so glad there was payback for when they made fun of me during my appearance on one of their newscasts. I DID NOT SNIFF THAT CRACK OFF THAT HOOKER.

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    Spartan says:

    @Father Time – yes I’m basically new. I have lurked from time to time but this issue just irked me something fierce this time. I dont know why. Maybe it has to do with all the IPR stuff of late and its impact on games -etc…

    Anyway, I know the bills always failed in the past but with this being an election year and the fundamentalists and conservatives being pandered to by candidates -etc.. I figured I had better speak up even if it proves meaningless in the long run.

    I dont ever want to be one of those people that complains about something when they chose not to act prior to its impact on their live even those they had an option.

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    Father Time ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    You mst be new here, we’ve all heard this BS before (and we’ve all heard lies coming from the PTC), but these bills ALWAYS fail to pass on constitutional grounds. The ESA defends these bills and defends them well, and then they charge the states for the legal fees (which are sometimes in the hundreds of thousands).

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    PHOENIXZERO ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Not really because it’s pretty much a fact and is a good reason why they would try scare tactics to get parents to prevent the use of game consoles so they’ll watch more TV.

    I forgot that EA now owns Bioware, but it’s good they sent them this message, however if it goes by unnoticed or mentioned then they should try a little hard and actually call them, if that doesn’t work, call the lawyers.

    On an unrelated note, I won a copy of the Limited Collector’s Edition from a promotion that was with Scifi.com for something like the first 2,000 people who entered a contest they were having or whatever. I dunno why, it must have been from a commercial they showed while I was watching it and I just enter for the hell of it or because they were offering a “grand prize” or some sort since I don’t own a XB360.

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    Father Time ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    EA should sue for slander

    Yes I read the ‘right to lie’ suit but from what I understand, the 1st amendment gave them the right to lie, and the FCC didn’t have a rule against it (fucking FCC, if you’re going to protect us from the ‘scary’ curse words at least purge the ‘news’ of liars). But the 1st amendment doesn’t cover slander and libel.

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    Spartan says:

    In general I’m not a fan of EA due to its practices. Like many in this thread however I’m impressed at its actions regarding this travesty in the sense that it as a major player in the industry it is finally taking a stand, even if it is self interest at stake against the “war on games” that has going on in recent years, with no one but the fans fighting the good fight and trying to defend the media and art form to no apparent avail.

    Case in point just today the Parents Television Council (PTC) decided it would call for legislation to regulate games. A full story can be read here:

    I surely hope the founders of this site can get all the developers and publishers in NA to come together and start to fight back against these type of groups real soon. It the gaming industry waits to much longer it might be to late.

    On a side note, relating to the Amazon reviews. The last time I checked prior to the removal all reviews there was near 1000 of them. There is only a little over 440 are listed now.

    Anyway I may just have to change my opinion of EA now. I guess maybe the Bio buyout has changed more then its account balances.

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    Paul ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I bet I know what the folks over at Fox News were thinking. “Oh shit, I never thought those cretin game developers would call us out on our obvious lies and un-imformed bullshit!”

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    Felix Aurelius says:

    One of the few times I’ve ever been proud of EA’s company line. Bravo for calling out the airheads at FoxNews who can’t seem to preform due diligence on something before dunking it head first into their mud.

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    Spartan says:

    If anyone want to setup an interview with her you can do so via:


    For More Info:

    Susan Blond Inc.
    Jaime Cassavechia
    Associate Vice President
    Fifty West 57th Street
    14th Floor
    New York, NY 10019
    T: 212.333.7728 ext. 108
    F: 212.262.1373

    I want to see Jeff and her one-on-one (no pun intended) discuss the merits and demerits of games such as ME and the sex factor it brings to the table for teenage boys who cant tell the difference from reality and all that other vile bigotry FOX unleashed on the public.

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    metroidprimegmr says:

    Agreed. Stunts like that are what 4chan (more specifically /b/) is known for; a reputation like that is the absolute LAST thing the gaming community needs right now!

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    metroidprimegmr says:


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    Zerodash ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Is EA being a little tin-hattish with the (conjectured) allegation that Fox News is making games look bad in order to stem the masses abandoning TV?

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    Athest ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I must say EA, Cheers, you’ve made the acquisition of Bioware a good thing to me now. Once again, Cheers mates. Sorry, I’m American, but I love saying cheers =)

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    Mad_Scientist ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Ok, for the people suggesting things such as editing wikipedia pages and giving negative book reviews…

    I may not be able to convince you to not do such things. But, at the very least, I hope I can convince you guys to stop posting links and suggestions like that at Gamepolitics. I don’t think Dennis would want this site used as a place to organize ativities such wikipedia vandalism and bogus reviews, and it could ultimately end up hurting the site and Dennis in the end.

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    TBoneTony ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Good on you EA,

    Now we need Bill Gates to sue Fox News for their trashing of Mass Effect, because as you all know Mass Effect was on the XBox 360, and that Microsoft is still owned by Bill Gates and he has enough money to sue anyone.

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    Loudspeaker ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @Gamer Dad

    Good to see you! Welcome back ^_^

    @ Everyone

    It’s good to see this community coming together like this. Fox is dead wrong and finally EA, one of the largest players in the industry, is taking them to task.

    To all those berating individuals who made comments about this $(#*@$ woman’s books, drop it. If Fox will not come out and admit their rediculousness and falsehoods written off as “fact” then by all means she should be shown up as the charlotten she is. Why? Simple. No one learns until they find out there is a cost for stupidity. Darwinism at it’s finest. However, I agree that the comments should be listed and noted as a protest against the offer and her “expert” opinion.

    We as a community should be her shadow now as we have against JT should we not? Why should we inform those who have JT as an “expert” and not every media she uses? Let’s keep our focus and make certain that all who claim falsehoods against gaming are held accountable.

    *puts away soapbox*

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    Murry ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    GP seems to be lagging a bit n the news lately.. this happened yesterday afternoon and was all over other sites, now there is an update with Fox blowing off EA with a rather short 1 line text message.

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    jab49 says:

    Fox is ridiculous, anyone see the clips a daily show picked up of them blaiming the recession in America on the possibility of a democrat becoming president, it’s gotten to the point where I can’t see how any even moderately unintelligent person would believe what they say.

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    Charlie Brown says:

    Mean while on Fox Network, you can see Jack Bauer bite out a guy’s neck, torture people, watch people explode, and watch a man get his arm cut off!

    That Mass Effect though..

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    Sean ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “Bill is just sad, isnt he? Gotta give the Colbert Report credit for making fun of him…time and time again.
    Remember when he went after that open forum website? Calling them all Nazis and what not.”

    Could you show me how tall a Great Dane is?

    Lol that cracked me up.

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    Mustasio ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Fox News is not going to apologize. At best, they’ll say something like “we were misinformed, and so now that we’ve dug out the truth, here’s the real story, brought to you by Fox News.

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    Cidas ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I remember a make out, almost love scene in scrubs…that was pretty intense. It’s good to hear that the industry is fighting back against these claims. I was worried there for a while that they wouldn’t do anything.

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    MonkeyFace says:

    “Demontestament Says:

    January 24th, 2008 at 11:21 am
    As well written as this piece is I can is it either being…..

    A) Ignored and never read

    B) Talked about for five seconds before opening up with Cooper again talking about how men are evil and video games enforces their male ideals

    C) Given to Fox’s resident Troll Bill O’Riley who will do nothing but insult EA and Gamers in general. “

    A) Most likely

    B)Don’t even get me started on Cooper(5 min at amazon later) pheew anger relived

    C)Bill is just sad, isnt he? Gotta give the Colbert Report credit for making fun of him…time and time again.
    Remember when he went after that open forum website? Calling them all Nazis and what not.

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    Buckeye531 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    You are correct about CNN and MSNBC. Our gripes about Fox, or at least my gripe, is how Fox News did not even bother to check the facts about the game and completely sensationalized the story.

    MSNBC and CNN do have a liberal slant (I once called CNN a complete political opposite of Fox). At least MSNBC and CNN, however, are more cautious about their reporting and do check their facts. When they are incorrect, they apologize on-air.

    In 2006, Bill O’Reilly, in an interview on his show with retired 4-star General Wesley Clark, got his facts on the Malmedy massacre during World War 2 insanely incorrect (topic of interview was about the Haditha incident). He said that American troops killed Nazi forces that surrendered to them. It was the other way around. Nazi troops killed the American soldiers that were surrendering. Bill O’Reilly got his facts on the Malmedy massacre sompletely opposite. He never apologized for it.

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    GaryCXJk says:

    Although I was a little annoyed by Fox’s news broadcast (despite me living in Europe), I do have to say Mass Effect never really interested me.

    Even though EA might benefit from the whole ordeal, I’d say it’s still a good idea to sue, just to get more money to acquire more companies.

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    MR.B says:


    Let’s keep up the pressure on her. She recently set her MySpace account to private (It was not set that way eariler today). And get this, her Wikipedia page has been blocked by administaitors. There’s got to be more netroot options to take.

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    lumi ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ folks decrying the negative-book-review-retaliation:

    It’s inevitable that some people are going to (have already) post inane, non-constructive drivel that will indeed reflect more poorly on our community than on the idiot we’re trying to shine the light on.

    However, there are definitely some “reviews” there that are open and honest. Mine own included, many specifically come out and say “I have not read this book, but I feel the need to point out this author’s blatant hypocrisy in other media, such as {example}”, which is really the most effective thing to do.

    We’re NOT stooping to her level, because we’re not lying about the content of her book(s). We merely pointed out that she was willing and enthusiastic about offering a completely unqualified opinion, as an “expert” on a subject she knows nothing about, about a product she was unwilling or unable to even bother playing once, let alone devoting the proper research to before speaking about.

    These are all facts, and ones worth passing along to others. Honestly, if she’s willing to do this on television, what’s to say she isn’t doing the same sort of thing in her writing?

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    Dog_Welder ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “This is why I stick to either network news, CNN, or MSNBC. Fox News is garbage, plain and simple.”

    You do of course realize that those other networks are equally biased, right? I always get a huge laugh when people say stuff like this.

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    Ren says:

    Well, in Fox’s defense, no one believes anything they say anyway, so EA would have a hard time proving that they affected financial damages against EA.

    Actually, considering the free press EA is getting, this may turn out to be a good thing for them.

    Probably not so good for Cooper Lawrence, though.

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    Truec says:

    Somebody asked before who owns Fox News and what else they owned. They’re owned by News Corporation. They don’t actually own any companies that make games, but they do own a few video game related websites, including Gamespy and IGN. They also own a few other interesting things, including Myspace.

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    Guiguibob80 says:

    Wat EA is saying is. we know you are losing audience and are figting us to retain what you have but it we are watching you and we won’t give ou an easy target so you might as well change your strategy.

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    TheBird says:

    this is a network that has family guy and other shows that rely on sex jokes the whole way just to get viewers

    note to FOX: stop bashing vieogames so that you can get ignorant dumbasses to watch your news

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    Automancer ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I have to congradulate EA on this one. It’s about time sombody started sticking up for their game and fighting back against all this crap Fox News pulls.


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    mogbert ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    This is something that I can get behind. You have an award winning game, one which does not just cater to lowest denominator by having the blood and gears (Geth) flying all over the place. It has good characterization, nice plot, and a brief love scene that I have stated from day one could have made it on network TV without editing (however, if Fox ever aired the clip, you can bet your bottom dollar that 50% of the screen would be pixilated in order to make you think you were missing out on something hot).

    I don’t want to drag Family Guy into the mud because I really like that show, but I think a quick montage of contributing to the deliquency of minors (I am being nice about this one), incestual themes (pop up occasionally), sexual slave trade (Quagmire), and general perversity (too numerous to count) in what Fox would describe (if they didn’t run it) as “a cartoon marketed to children.” In reality it is a pretty funny animated show for adults.

    I think the main thing is that a number of the news outlets are starting to find out gamers aren’t the nerds they used to pick on in school. They are now much more then that. Things like “constituants,” “voters,” and “consumers.” When you insult a political opponent, you generally insult some of your viewers, but a third will agree with you, a third is so stupid they will accept whatever you say, and a third will violently disagree with you but keep watching to see what esle you might say that they disagree with.

    However, now, you enanger people who don’t watch your show, you have made no advertising dollars from us. And in general, we can make things happen. We can logically argue you on points. We can submit evidense. We can discuss this with your advertisers. You start loosing viewers and advertising dollars by saying the stupid stuff, and hopfully you’ll start learning from your mistakes and realize that more of the population is playing games then ever before.

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    Anon says:

    “We’re going to fight back. There’s a lot of nonsense about gaming coming out of politics, government and media – John wants us to start calling them out on it.”

    Okay, okay. Imagine if every game developer company had this same idea / mindset. Gaming in politics might have an entire different change.

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    Toxicity² ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I still don’t have much respect for EA because of how they buy good developers and turn them into shit. Or how they put ads in most of their games. Or how they’re ripping off TF2 with Battlefield Heroes. Or how they’re just greedy fucks.

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    BaronJuJu ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Go EA!

    Glad to see gaming companies standing up and defending themselves from outright and blatant lies being spread on news sites. I hope the ESA and other companies step and lend their voices in support of EA.

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    Pierre-Olivier ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I see the scene:

    GP members: You actually do something good?
    Jeff Brown (imitating Jack Sparrow): We do that alot, but you peoples are always surprised.

    Jokes aside, it’s a very good move from EA to seek a public apology.

    NW2K, It’s too bad they don’t sue right now, but I do really think that it’s a good move. Because if Fox doesn’t apologize and that EA sues afterwards, Fox won’t be able to play victim since EA can prove they asked them beforehand. And if they DO apologize (which I can doubt considering all you said about Fox), they’ll lose a LOT of credibility among their viewers AND they’ll probably understand that sensationalism doesn’t pay on a news network. So in either way (except if I overlook something), it’s a win-win scenario.

    I DO think that giving bad reviews on that book based on that experience makes us just as hypocritical as the others. Fighting libel with libel won’t go anywhere. On the other hand, I found some GENUINE reviews that shows their dislike of the book.

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    ~the1jeffy says:

    Black Manta and other Sue-friendly folks,

    This is why Yuki and yourself aren’t Veeps of Communication of large companies. What do you thnk your shareholders would do if you threaten to sue Fox News over a few minute segment? Welcome to having your shares bought out from under you.

    Come on, Jeff Brown handled this with class, tact, and enough info to set the record straight without getting the Fox Legal heavy hitters on his ass.

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    Steve ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    They are all full of BS. I thinkly, largly due to Fox being unabashed about it and being rewarded with ratings, but none should be viewed favorably. If it’s something I’m interested in, I have to go with a wide range of reports to get any idea of the real story.

    If you take a single story, and really compare several news sources, you’ll notice distinct differences in each of them. Each network tends edit things to fit their angle, each trying to make the news seem more interesting for whatever target demographic they are looking for.

    Whenever a pundit is allowed to do a reporters job, just assume from the get go that it is utter crap. Network doesn’t matter there.

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    Black Manta ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I too am a bit disappointed with the “This is not a legal threat,” line. Kind of takes the teeth out of the whole argument. Considering you’ve got people like JT suing game companies left and right for any real or imagined transgression, it’s high time the game companies responded in kind. I’ve always agreed with Yuki on that.

    By saying that, it takes the pressure off Fox to issue an apology. So don’t hold your breath expecting one. Why should they if they know there’ll be no consequence? Even if there’s no chance of it ever going to court, it would show that EA would be willing to fight if it came down to it. In effect it’s like saying, “Please don’t say any more mean things about our games Mr. Big News Corporation.”

    They didn’t even have to threaten to sue. They could have just left that line out of the letter and left it ambiguous. It still would have made them think twice.

    I do hope, though, that if Bioware themselves and more companies speak out, eventually the pressure will get to Fox and they’ll issue a retraction just as we were able to do it to Kevin McCullough on a smaller scale. EA’s rebuttal was a good start, even if they wimped-out at the last minute by not threatening to back up their actions.

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    ~the1jeffy says:

    While I like this move, I have to mention that EA’s motive aren’t likely altruistic – they realize that such bad press can (nd will) hurt sales. However, one can easily argue that this is unfairly going to impact sales, because in this case, EA has done no wrong.

    Also, to those who want EA to sue: No. This country is already litigous enough. EA has all the clout it needs – advertising dollars. It can (publically, but not with an official announcement), pull all ads from Fox and Fox affliates. As much as I hate them, EA’s Madden, etc. ad spots probably fetch a pretty penny. See, no need to sue.

    No lawsuits over a few minutes of hack television. However, threaten advertising dollars? Heck, yes, that happens more frequently.

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    Xantar says:

    While spamming the reviews for Cooper Lawrence’s book is immature, it’s worth noting that many reviewers who don’t have an axe to grind because of her gamer baiting also don’t seem to like the book. Reviews rated “helpful” have been universally negative and given her one or two stars, and practically nobody has given her a positive rating. I don’t think Cooper Lawrence is in any danger of becoming too popular with the general public.

    Incidentally, the tags are kind of hilarious albeit also very appropriate: ignorant, hypocrite, bigot, hack, garbage…

    On another note, it’s been suggested that EA should go to one of the competitor networks in order to get a story aired about Fox’s false statements. The problem is this will only allow Fox to play the “we’re being persecuted by the liberal media” card again, and Fox viewers generally aren’t going to be curious or discerning enough to figure out the truth. And if CNN or MSNBC wanted to do a story on Fox’s journalistic lapses, they’d have thousands of better examples to pick from.

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    MR.B says:

    “As video games continue to take audiences from television, we expect to see more TV news stories warning parents about the corrupting influence of interactive entertainment.” It’s nice to see someone else with the same prespective on this issue.

    I don’t want to appear to be a broken record on this, but I’ve been saying this all comes down to marketshare. There is alot of people in old-media who are more than willing to slander new-media. It becomes difficult to be un-biased and disinterested (basic journalistic qualities) when a issue in one way or another effects your own paycheck.

    I’ll give you an example of that in action. CNN entertainment reporter AJ Hammer was talking about the WGA writers strike when he mentioned that Warner Brothers (part of Time Warner, parent company of CNN) was going to lay off a few thousand people. He said on air how he was upset about the whole situation. Also, I once heard a conversation between FOX News and FOX Business news commentator Neil Cavuto talking with Murdoch (shortly after News Corp finally aquired The Wall Street Journal) about how Cavuto was upset with his own daughter beacause she only reads news online and never reads any newspapers. They talked about that for a couple of minutes.

    My point; when a large corparation (like Time Warner or News Corp) has any kind of issue marketshare-wise, it effects the paycheck of the guy at the very top to the janitor that cleans up after said guy at the top. Marketshare is one of the main factors in why old-media has been going on a assult on new-media as of late.

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    Helpless Kitten says:

    Someone ping me when there is an actual response to this letter by Fox News. Given their record thus far I don’t expect anything intelligent out of them.

    Oh, and I just started playing Mass Effect myself. It is one thick piece of “Space Opera” (and I mean that in a loving way). I would expect any “sex crazed teenage boy” to have fallen asleep hours before the sex scene occurs.

    As to the game having negative female stereotypes, I seriously wounder what game this woman was thinking of. Thus far all the female characters I have run into are strong, intelligent and skilled in their professions. The female human who is in my party has earned my respect for single handedly comforting a man who’s wife had died in the line of service. If anything I would accuse this game of bening too positive in it’s depictions of women thus far! Come on, we can be slime balls too!

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    Pominator says:

    well I didn’t post any reviews (it makes our community/culture look rather dumb) but I gotta say some of the stuff that people pointed out was hilarious!

    that Cooper woman can shut it, she is just another sensationalist pro-woman turd, she’ll be dead soon anyway, soon all of these people will be dead and we will take their place when we are their age (god forbid I look like such a jerk when I am pushing 40!)

    I know gamers of ages 9 through 99, it is amazing to think that people still classify games as a child’s entertainment, amazing and upsetting

    good luck EA (man I feel dirty now!) but yeah, turn this into a proper lawsuit, they may have the so called “right to lie” but they don’t have the right to attempt the restriction/sabotage of sales of any medium of entertainment, and on that grounds they sure as hell have a case!

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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I haven’t posted to her books either because I have chosen not to read such bigoted ignorance and what she has espoused. And to post, even saying that I was commenting on her books even though I hadn’t read them as a form of retaliation would seem a little hypocritical.

    I did post a comment to the Boardwalk Ambush book mentioned in a prior artcile, but that book I borrowed from a friend and read, so I felt justified in commenting on that… book (spoken in slathery disgust). At any rate, neither Harrison nor Lawrence will be collecting royalties from me.

    NW2K Software
    PS. OT: Great to see you back in action GamerDad! :)

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    Soldatlouis ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @anon :

    I’ve already said it, but I’ll repeat it again : it’s not fair. It’s “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth”, and the people who do it are in no way better than her. She acted stupidly ? Of course. But does it give us the right to be as stupid as her ? Wouldn’t it be smarter to email her directly and point her mistakes in a civil way ?

    Worse, they make gamers look like a bunch of vengeful, angry, immature ayatollahs. Plus, put yourself in the shoes of the non-gamers who never heard about this : they will only see angry off-topic reactions without understanding why there is such anger. And they’ll consider Cooper Lawrence as a “victim of a gamers’ harrassment campaign”.

    Talking about Fox News, has anyone read previous coverage of “Mass Effect” ? It makes me wonder if they read their own reviews :

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    Werrick ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I haven’t posted anything on Cooper’s books on Amazon and I don’t intend to. If I were a leader in the gaming community I’d probably say somethign publically about making a good example and how it’s not the best idea.

    But I’m not a leader, and just another of the rank and file… and I find those “reviews” hilarious.

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    Mikeu ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I suppose there is at least one benefit to being owned my a mega corp like EA. Nice to see some “legal” support for creativity for a change. The irony is I’m sure many of us have said the same thing, some probably even more eloquently, but it’s not the message it’s the messenger.

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    Zen says:

    @ MacBoy

    Sadly, they will probably try to “spin” it (I still call BS on that whole “no spin” crap they talk about..they must keep the whole building rotating so they don’t notice how bad it is) and try to make it look like either we are fighting to keep porn in kids hands, or as a bunch of kids throwing a fit. They will NEVER give an apology or even admit that they lied. Sad but probably true.

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    Doctor Proctor ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Actually, ignoring it might not be a bad thing. The comments that they’re making are obviously false and could be considered defamatory and/or slanderous. If they don’t offer a retraction, then EA might sue them. That would be a real shot in the arm for the VG industry if they sued for slander and WON.

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    chuma ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Fantastic. Not a big fan of EA, but it would do the industry wonders for these big corporates to stand up to the lies and deceit being spread. I hope they go all the way with this and issue a lawsuit should Fox refuse to air any apology or correction.

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    Dave ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    EA’s got the bucks to throw down against Fox, now let’s see if they’ve got the balls.

    Knowing media types, Fox’s likely response will be to hem, haw, and hope people get bored until the threat goes away.

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    cppcrusader ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I have to say, EA has earned a good bit of respect from me now. More studios need to take the media to task when they outright lie.

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    King James says:

    I think we’re seeing that Bioware’s acquisition by EA has, at least in the short run, produce a happy result. Turns out that Fox News can’t bully so well when it runs up on a giant media conglomerate that’s nearly as huge as it is.

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    ekim1086 says:


    I gotta agree with you on the points you made, but I’m hopeful that this is a step in the right direction. Companies need to stand behind their games just as EA is doing here and the ESRB has gotta start helping out with more then just spouting information vids about the rating system. The systems been around for how many years? It works already, we get the idea! Start standing by your ratings, game companies put you in charge to be a self regulating body, either start by helping the fight with morons like Fox, or we might just see fit to remove you…

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    Grifter_tm ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Fox trying to cash in on middle-aged, middle-class folks’ ignorance instead of educating them. Can we blame them for being unethical?

    If the letter didn’t threaten to sue, it should have.

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    Ben from Baltimore says:

    Fox Noise isn’t fair and balanced like they say. Here a few videos proving my point:
    Employees expose Fox News Distortions
    Fox News Admits Bias:
    Rupert Murdoch of Fox News Admits Manipulating the News for Agenda:
    This is why I stick to either network news, CNN, or MSNBC. Fox News is garbage, plain and simple.

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    Demontestament ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    As well written as this piece is I can is it either being…..

    A) Ignored and never read

    B) Talked about for five seconds before opening up with Cooper again talking about how men are evil and video games enforces their male ideals

    C) Given to Fox’s resident Troll Bill O’Riley who will do nothing but insult EA and Gamers in general.

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    Ecogrady ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “Back to business, Even though I work for a competing game company I’m glad EA took a step in the right direction and if they don’t get the response they want i hope they press further”

    Agreed. While I work for an EA competator as well, it brought me and my office great joy to see them stand up to slander like this. It is about time that someone decided not to lay back and take it as the “new medium” and fight back for our rights not only as gamers, but as game developers, reviewers, and the industry in general. I know that if I had met one of these Fox people on the street, and they called me a “pornography peddler” that would be grounds for a solid punch in the mouth.

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    lumi ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I love that she ended up getting spammed with 1 star reviews on Amazon for all her books. I hope it actually impacts online sales (though I know I personally rarely even look at star ratings…I know what I’m buying before I go to the site, but hey, fingers crossed!).

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    Citizen_Snips says:

    wow everyone just ignores gamerdad? no cool. HI GAMERDAD! how are you feeling?

    Back to business, Even though I work for a competing game company I’m glad EA took a step in the right direction and if they don’t get the response they want i hope they press further.

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    Muninn ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’m glad that EA is lending its weight to what is hopefully a wider campaign to show fox and Cooper Lawrence the error of their ways in recklessly making arbitrary statements about mass effect. I’m also glad that they did it in a civilized manner, as I hope that anyone else who writes in will do (although I do find a particular ironic sense of satisfaction in the spamming of Lawrences book reviews on amazon). And I do realize that with such slander being the issue at hand, it is difficult to remain civil (I first started to watch the clip at work (as a college student, I have one of the easiest jobs in the world), and I had to turn it off early when she said, “who’s playing video games? adolescent males, not their dads”, so that I would not smash things). Anyway, civilized=good.

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    Awol ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Glad to see the gaming industry stand up for itself. About time if you ask me they have the power since they pull in more annaul revenue than movies. Fox might ignore this but I doubt it EA is probably big enough to make some changes in how video games are viewed. My guess is Fox will apologize to EA privately and we will hear nothing else about it.

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    Pixelantes Anonymous ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    About time someone authoritative stood up against this stupidity. Good on you EA!

    I don’t know if American TV has ethical standards (my country does), but if it does, there’s an obligation from Fox News to correct the story, even if it just a 10 second prepared statement.

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    AM ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    A line from this which wasn’t quoted was that it’s not a legal threat. I rather wish it were, simply because Fox makes a habit of yellow journalism. This goes beyond Mass Effect, and I really want Fox to become afraid of the consequences of reporting falsehoods as fact.

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    Benji says:

    For all those that want EA to sue: First of all, a lawsuit will be fought to the bitter end and may look to some on the outside that the big, bad game industry is trying to peddle porn to minors and silencing its critics. Getting a public apology from Fox more or less accomplishes what EA wants, but without the prolonged legal battle and bad PR.
    Also, demonstrating that the statements were made maliciously, that they are unreasonable beliefs, and that they do actual harm to EA are all difficult points to prove. It’d be a tough battle, and in the US close calls regarding the legality of statements always are decided in favor of those making the statement. The case exists, but it’s not easy.
    (Of course, should Fox refuse to apologize when offered refuting evidence, the case might become easier. Who knows…)

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    Steven Furtado says:

    If you want to hurt a television show, do not attack them directly, that just gives them fodder for their show. No, if you REALLY wanna hurt them, attack their sponsors. Aaaaaand here’s a list of Fox News’ sponsors and their contact addresses:


    Feel free to call, write and email them saying how we will not support a company or product that in turn supports a station full of sensationalist liars.

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    Ponderus says:

    Funny. I sent an e-mail yesterday to the Cooper woman saying most of the things EA said. Hopefully, more and more people will be made aware of these terrible generalizations being made by the press.

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    Mystik Tomato ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I honestly think that EA should sue.

    I saw part of the Fox-thing, and it really seems like they should be suing for slander.

    And since when did The Daily Bugle become a news organization? If you just replace video games with Spider-Man you’d essentially have J. Jonah Jameson there.

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    some guy ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Personally I think they should have taken it up with a competing news network who would be willing to air a story about all of Fox’s misinformation with this story. It could have made for some interesting fireworks and definitely would have called more attention to the issue.
    At this point I really feel like the biggest obstacle for the games industry is convincing the non-gaming public that most games are not being marketed to children anymore. This is not the 80’s. Just like with any other entertainment media, there are different types of games marketed to different demographics, and Mass Effect is a prime example of a game that is being specifically marketed to an older crowd.

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    beek says:

    @ Hackangel That’s really hilarious thanks for posting that!

    And yea, I don’t foresee Fox retracting any of their statements. They are not in the business of saying they are wrong, and the law will protect them. Fox will only bring it up if they can squeeze in the last laugh.

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    Cecil475 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Fox News is PWNED!

    Yeah, It is about time. Well past time someone got up and socked it to them, as well as the fact their own shows show off more then the game does. I, myself cannot believe I forgot about Family Guy. It’s animated too.

    OMG! Its mass marketed to children and teenagers! IT’S A CARTOON!

    Just kidding. But you get the point, no? Not EVERYTHING is for children.

    – Warren Lewis

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    Steve ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Thank you EA. Yeah, Fox really won’t care, but at least there is one big name out there pushing back against this gamers are perverts crap. They may care a little bit more if Microsoft Game Studios had something to say to them.

    PS, EA, if you are watching, thanks again….and get us Spore. Please.

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    AgnostoTheo ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    A fine job. For those of you incapable of Corporation to Jerk Translation, EA just basically called Fox a group of lying Asshats who are making up stories because they are threatened by the Video Game’s ability to pull viewers away from broadcasts.

    (Yes. I realize that most of the posters figured that out. This is for everyone else. :P)

    Go EA. Finally, you do something right.

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    Sean ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    movie sales go down whenever a big title game comes out, so yeah video games are taking people away from the movie and TV industry.

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    kurisu7885 says:

    “Do you watch the Fox Network? Do you watch Family Guy? Have you ever seen The OC? Do you think the sexual situations in Mass Effect are any more graphic than scenes routinely aired on those shows? Do you honestly believe that young people have more exposure to Mass Effect than to those prime time shows?”

    This argument is valid. When I was younger, before I had my own television, I could be in the living room playing Mario, and my dad would come home from work, kick me off the TV, and turn on a World War 2 movie. Fox shows those, and guess what they hav,e and hint, it’s not the Barny happy fun time hour.

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    ShadowMagus ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Well, if you think about it, every “new entertainment” has been attacked for its corrupting influence. In the 50’s it was Rock and Roll. In the 60’s was TV and movies. The 70’s … well, the 70’s were special and everyone was too hopped up on dope to care. Metal was hit in the 80’s (music always seems to be a popular target because it’s so dynamic). So, it’s just video games “turn.” It’s like the Rush Week initiation procedure for new forms of entertainment. You have to be hazed by the media until all hell breaks loose.

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    JB ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “As video games continue to take audiences away from television, we expect to see more TV news stories warning parents about the corrupting influence of interactive entertainment.”

    You know, I’ve never actually thought about that before…

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    Davis 51 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    That would only confirm in their eyes that you are a part of the EVIL VIDEO GAME ESTABLISHMENT! Like, the establishment will knock you do.own if you go against them, man! It’s a conspiracy. JT WUS RITE OH MAH GAAAAAWWD.

    The rest of us would be laughing our asses off. 😛

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    GamerDad says:

    Can they sue? You’d think they could easily demonstrate:
    A. Harm.
    B. Malice (they ignored Keighley and clearly didn’t research the story)

    EA’s a big company and this would make news stations tread a bit lighter. I’m not a lawyer though. Just curious. Oh and, Hi everybody!

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    300baud says:

    I’m surprised no one is wondering “why”. Everyone knows that spots on Fox News are for sale to the highest bidder. So, who bought the hit job on Mass Effect?

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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Double post, sorry.

    Despite that Right to lie, were I in a position to do so at EA, I’d still sue, not only FOX but Cooper Lawrence, for fraud, at the very least. Moreover, I’d be questioning any form of license to practice that Ms. Lawrence might have. Even further, I’d be writing letters to the college(s) where she obtained her degrees questioning whether the type of “professional” she’s proven to be (a bigot as shown through her gender bigoted comments, and lying and deceiving others regarding the issues of her (lack of) research on this game as well as the (mis)quoted study) is the type of students they put forth into society. Or if maybe it brings into question whether or not her degrees were actually honorably and ethically earned and perhaps, if poosbile, should be revoked.

    NW2K software

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    Werrick ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    There’s no way that they won’t respond in some way…

    What I AM curious about is whether or not Martha Whatserface will actually respond to some of the emails that she got from gamers, myself included.

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    MonkeyFace says:

    Psh Facts cant stand in the way of the fox news crew
    (they just scratch their heads with a blank stare if you use them)
    Jeff Brown used so many facts(six or so) and made so much sense that the fox news crew could implode if they read it.

    Even if they do air corrections the damage has been done and cant be repaired. Seeing as how not everyone who watched the old clip if going to see the new one ect.

    But all in all a step in the correct direction i think.

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    Davis 51 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I don’t like EA at all. There are many reasons for this, but this is another sotyr for another time.

    However, I applaud them for this. Hopefully, someone higher up at Fox (presumably someone with brains, but you never know with Fox,) will hear about this and be more than a little pissed.

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    PHOENIXZERO ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Speaking of Faux, anyone hear about John Gibson’s comments on his radio “program” shortly after it came out that Heath Ledger was dead?

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    Werrick ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Pierre-Olivier said;

    “I DO think that giving bad reviews on that book based on that experience makes us just as hypocritical as the others. Fighting libel with libel won’t go anywhere. On the other hand, I found some GENUINE reviews that shows their dislike of the book.”

    Right, and I agree… but there may be another consequence. If those reviews impact her sales it might well hit her where it hurts the most… her wallet.

    This might accomplish two things. It might make her think twice about commenting on gaming, which I think we all agree is a good thing, and it might also at least make her consider doing her homework.

    It also might demonstrate that the gaming community has enough clout to fight back against being bullied like this by the mainstream media. If we, as a community, can influence the sales of non-gaming media whor… *cough*, I mean figures then maybe we might raise some eyebrows.

    I still don’t think that posting those negative comments on her books is a mature thing to do, or a good idea, but it might not be such a bad thing at the end of the day.

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    Buckeye531 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Sorry for double post

    Let’s not forget that Dan Rather was fired for not checking his facts. If he gets fired for that, then Fox Noise should teminate some of their own as well.

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    jonc2006 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    fox news is a joke of a news group, they will never be taken seriously by people who can actually think for themselves. its disgusting how much they get away with though.

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    Blackened619 says:

    The sh*t hath hitteth the fan. I believe this means war. I will convene the council of Elrond. I expect to see you all there.

    “Madness? THIS…IS…BIOWAREEEEE!!!!”

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    Tim Kowalenko ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Thankyou so much EA. Its about time someone hit back.

    I honestly hope that Fox News is hit HARD by this.

    If EA wanted to, they easily have the defamation of character suit given the obvious libel and slander. Though thats only a civil suit rather than criminal… Id like to see Fox make a forced broadcast apology where they say WHY they got it wrong. Lack of research. But, will probably never happen. Live in hope though

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    Bill ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It doesn’t matter if Fox cares or gets things wrong all the time or whatever. History will have on record that Fox got it wrong and was forced to correct itself. That is important even if some damage has been done. To in essence say “What’s the point?” would be letting them go unchecked. Considering all that we have managed to do; now seems like the wrong time to be quiet.

    As for Cooper’s Amazon page, while some see it as childish, I believe they were simply illustrating to her what it is like to have your work attacked by someone who has never even seen it. Quite a few said as much.

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    AgnostoTheo ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    lmao. You’re right. XD Okay I concede. Go EA! Finally you do some more right in the hope we’ll forget all the stuff you F*** up.


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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    What’s really interesting is that the letter states that it’s not a legal threat against FOX News. Probably because EA, as well as many others, knows that FOX News legally won the Right to lie to and deceive it’s audience. (The link to that story was posted in the other article on the FOX News Mass Effect story.)

    NW2K Software

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