youch. im ok with restrictiong sales to minors, but banning them completely? im sorry, my view of democrats and "cristain conservatives" keeps goung down.

I always wonderred too...

Nice find, of course a progressive country has to show some failures every now and then otherwise we would already have moved there.

The PTC needs to meet a PLA. Fast.

Finland has one of the (if not THE) lowes crime rates in Europe as far as I know so how can he CDP justify this blatan censorship and attack on free expression??

@ Zombie: Easy, FOR THE CAUSE OF PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN FROM THE EVILS OF UNREALISTIC VIOLENCE!

Seriously, they REALY need a reality check! there are worse things in this world than VIDEOGAMES! Want proof? Give Darfur and Rwanda a look.

Does the CDP have much of a position in Finnish politics, or are they a minority party? Is this something Finnish gamers should actually be worried about? (and a wee shout out to all the Finnish Q2:Gloom players - of which there were many)

WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS

@Altair
Rowanda was caused by VIOLENT VIDEOGAMES!!

The CDP needs to just come out and say it. They don't like videogames and want them banned from the public. Then we can see how much support they would get.

That makes me a sad panda. :’(

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....Are they removing the games that have violence or sex? Or are they just putting a label of some sort hmm perhaps an M or AO of course either way prices will rise
If its the first= !@$&^ @#$^@^ $%!!@ @$^@ !&$@*
if its the latter=*$@#^ ^&@@ *%@#!$ &*$#%@(slightly less swearing)

Here's a bit of constructive criticsm: Let the CDP do the content screening an have them post content ratings for each game on their own website. If they truly care, they will volunteer their own efforts. The USA has several such independent raters.

@Spartan
I wouldn't say it's the religion itself. It's simply insecure people who cannot cope with the pace of the world around them - this can be seen as they are clearly unawares of the barrage of ratings boards associated with releasing games, and indeed any sort of media, to a foreign country. For example, I'm Christian and I've been apart of the creation, not to mention thoroughly enjoyed, some of the games I'm sure spawned this group to begin their grasp for attention. I'm afraid this is just another group giving the rest of us Bible thumpers a bad name.

@Clever - you may be right. I always get a knee jerk reaction when I read about such shit and find out it is ALWAYS religious groups that are causing the problems. After all fear is the root of all evil in the land of faith.

Let me adjust my comment to be more specific...

Organized religion should be outlawed or at least taxed heavily and prohibited from engaging in political and social discourse involving none believers or members.

I have to agree with you there Twin-Skies. The stupid people withing organized religion are the minority.

Robb
this is a ok idea, I also like how law can be tied to the sale of mature stuff to minors, looking at Germany things are not baned persay but are merely hidden from the view of minors, a system that merely regulates the sale of mature media to minors via fines/fees and not bans and crapping on the high ground sounds good to me.

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@ZippyDSMlee

You're thinking of Nazi's, not Communists. Well, maybe Stalinists, but they're hard.

@Broken Scope - I feel the same about religion in general - So let me use your word and call it "stupid". So lets agree to disagree.

Regarding drawing the line, you are correct it is a very difficult thing to do to be sure. I tend to draw the line at the point where such organizations feel their morale and or social code should be applied to others via governmental entities. This is so because I believe faith to be irrational and it can easily lead good decent people down the path of "evil" by doing/taking rational or logical steps. Moreover I do not think such organizations should have the same rights as any other private organizations for the prior reason in principle and since they claim special social status as institutions of faith.

@Twin-Skies - I dont doubt that such organizations have help improve the quality of life for many. But I do question the idea of what "proper discourse" is as it is a highly relative concept as well as "compassion for their fellowmen" if (s)he choses to not believe or live according to institutional values.

In general I know that a great many good hearted, kind and civic minded people are believers and truly feel they are doing what is right in accordance with their faith and I respect that to a large degree. I have also seen a lot people have problems in their lives caused by such organizations and their dogmatic principles of blind faith and unquestioned obedience to cause.

I guess it boils down to what is perceived as "good" or better yet how "good" is defined and how best to promote that idea to others and our children. In general I define "good & bad" in terms of welfare and suffering of others and self. But I digress...

It is as Steven Weinberg said “With or without [religion] you’d have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion.”

Spartan
I see organized religion as another way humans mob up, not so much the mafia style but just general human grouping, its no worse or better than anything else humans have done.

Nice quote BTW,but it can be stretched to include government and other human organizations, its rather easy to blame religion since it such a large target but lets face it on the whole humans are quite pathetic.

If this christian group wishs to censor video games, they should also welcome the same from the Holy Bible. Since the Holy Bible is chalk full of violence and sex all over. To do otherwise, is to set a doubt standard.

Honestly, folks that wish these sort of ideas, should think how the same laws can backfire on their own enjoyments. Since it'll be gamers who wont come to their defense, when such laws are pass.