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damn they kid is only allowed to play for 1 hour a day. damn that sucks.

I've been playing Dwarf Fortress a lot lately, should I be thinking Dig.Dig.Dig?

Ok, not to beat the dead horse, AGAIN, but, where the FUCK is the industry. No response, no rebuttal, no threat of lawsuit.

You all argue that my belief in a legal attack on the MSM is a bit extreme, but given this story, I think it might be about the only thing retards like these people will understand.

Oh my god... when will it end! un-informed "professionals" jabbering on about topics that they only had a glimpse at, and mis-interprited. This has to stop!

Stupid is as stupid does. Genius, that Forrest Gump.

It amazes me how many people are actually getting airtime to define "stupid".

I am so tired of news stations declaring these people as professionals and then them giving some ridiculous statement. You know, not all parents/adults know better than to not listen to this, some of them will believe it.

LOL I love the way he states 'Pro-Social Behaviour' in among all the insults, because it's so much worse than 'Anti-Social Behaviour'...

yay more junk science . . . oh wait i hate junk science =[

p.s. is there anyone out there that will let me cry on their shoulder?

"LOL I love the way he states ‘Pro-Social Behaviour’ in among all the insults, because it’s so much worse than ‘Anti-Social Behaviour’…"
Seconded :D

Anyway, this is nothing more than ignorance and stupidity rolled into one package.

Hmm. Y'know. These guys are being offensive kids themselves. Just look at all their attacks in their videogames. All of them state one thing: "children are morons who can't distinguish fantasy from reality"

I was born with mild asperger's syndrome, and even I had no trouble distinguishing fantasy from reality when I was a toddler.

Hey! I think I've just found some ammo for us!

Is 'normalize' even a word?

Normalize... I think it's an option in Sound Editing software.

Mr. Chris Payne knew this because of his brother Max :-)

I read the article and its clear what the determine is violent thought to simply be increased heart rate. The article sadly did not include what games they used to study, most likely on purpose. Until I can determine what games they used I think they are simply confusing the fact that the game is violent with the fact that it is hard. If you had a person play Tetris and then play Resident Evil, they would clearly have a higher heart rate. But if you had someone play Tetris and Burnout Paradise (a game I would personally consider non-violent since its a racing game) on the hardest races I am sure you would see a clear increase in heart rate too.

....Why did they use halo2 footage in that segment? its roughly 4 years old are they seriously so cheap that they couldn't get some h3 video clips?

they even attacked E rated games!
omfg that kid just played some Mario Party he could blow at any moment!
Same old story,still no proof.

Remember the good ol days when the news wasn't a cesspit of lies?
According to these people i should have at least 8 murders under my belt by now,damn I am so far behind.

The letter to fox said it best. In a time where video games are rapidly pushing out the TV primetime spots, it's no surprise that a failing system is ripe with attacks on the new. It's bad enough when society gets all scared about the new medium, but it's that much worse when the previous medium picks up the torch and tries frying the "new bad". If they were the slightest bit intellegent, they'd realize that if they push to censor video games, what do you think the next battleground for free speech will be? It sure as hell won't be about comic books.

So, what information is there obtainable about "Dr." Snyder?

http://www.chsomaha.org/body.cfm?xyzpdqabc=0&id=522&action=detail&ref=89...

Ok, that's the Children's Hospital info. Anything else?


:: chirp chirp chirp ::

Guess not.

:: Tosses "Dr." Snyder down in the basement with "Dr." Lawrence. ::

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software

"I’m sure, way back when, books got attacked."

He's right.

@BM

Replace Burnout with Midnight Club or Gran Turismo and then you'd have something.

Burnout is known for it's uber-realisitc and over-done crash sequences. In fact it actively encourages you to wreck your opponents' cars, so I'd say that's violent.

My oh my.

How did we ever survive public hangings and Wild West shootouts!?

I guess the guys at KETV-7 say fox's mass effect bash and thought
"Wow if that many people get mad at us we will get the spotlight for a while!"

We need more news stories that talk about the mis-informed professionals and bad research that goes into flawed news reports. Of course, the networks won't attack themselves, but if they start flinging the proverbial poo at each other it would be an eye-opener for viewers.

Even E- .. Even E-rated games!? Yeah, I know after an intense round of Katamari I really have to fight off the urges to go and murder my family. Phew.

It's always an amusingly ignored fact that Japan has the most violent and what would be considered (By countries in the West) 'deviant' games in the world, and yet has one of the lowest crime rates in the world (http://www.ft.com/dkreports/japan2), so beside the fact they are one of the major viedo game-playing countries, and despite the fact that they really do have things like 'Rape Simulators' as games, they still only have one sexual offence per 100,000 people, compared to the 'Morally clean' US value of 33 per 100,000 people (http://www.ft.com/dkreports/us2#crime)

Suggest strongly to me that it isn't about the content of the games we play, it's the contentment of the people within the society.

It also means that an anonymous poster on the Internet can provide more citable sources for his evidence than a supposed Psychologist on National TV.

@sai

and after playing Kingdom Hearts, it was really tough to resist the urge to beat people with my giant key.

Hmmm... checking up on those images, there still seems to be some argument over whether they were genuine or not, I'll hold judgement on it for now.

Is there something wrong with their short term memory?

Mis- or uninformed people + television + games hasn't exactly been the best combination lately...

Does he have a book on Amazon? haha

Gamer: Um, I don't feel more aggressive after I play a violent video game.

Reporter: Actually according to research, you do.

FlyinM_X
Thats because games relive tension where as films and TV build them.

I was born with moderate Aspergers' Syndrome, and (I've asked around) I showed no tendencies of increased aggression due to violent videogames. Nowadays the "influence" is limited to me playfully jabbing at my friends sometimes while shouting "Falcon Punch!".

As for "normalize", it's a term used in sound editing software to smooth out volume across a track.

@NightWing

did you read his specialties?

ADHD/Learnin/School Problems

YES LEARNIN PROBLEMS

Memo to Mr. Payne:
Did you listen to your own quote? You stereotyped your own children.

This just in: Mainstream media 'Normalizes' histrionics, prejudice on matters with which people have zero first-hand experience.

The question is: are people so moronic as to actually buy into this rotten bs?

I guess we shall see…

"Kill. Kill. Kill."

Come on! That doesn't even sound real!

Made by me

@GP:

"If Dr. Snyder has any expertise in video games, it remains unstated in the KETV report."

Even if he didn't, that never stopped them before... right Cooper?

you know its weird but after playing Super Star Dust HD I want to get a gun and shoot down rocks....

Halo3Guy
And the reason you post?
Comments are stinky too, opinions gotta love them :P

I'am stating my opinion (as poorly as I can at times"zomg post before readings" *smash post button*)

Merely saying "mediums" of all kinds have been claimed by mostly the elite and "educated" as being harmful to the people when the people see as nothing more than a normal part of life and ignore or avoid the mediums they do not like.

sorry for the double post, but in regards to my own someone might... spark on the words "little children" here... "little children" are evil... raise your hand against any of them even if your not gonna hit them, may give them a reason to scream "HEY HIT ME!!!" and there you go... off to jail for "harming a kid"

Ow, this one hurts. Being from Omaha myself, I feel especially ill here.

I mean, are my entire extended family mysteriously transformed into a pack of crazed killers just because they each had a brief Tetris playing phase? Furthermore, any activity that can potentially cause adrenaline and other such chemicals to be produced in the brain can JUST as easily increase "...aggressive thoughts...pro-social behavior...and general arousal." (among other things, but just using the words of Dr.Snyder). The ironic thing is this is exactly the kind of thing little league sports claim to be the BENEFITS of their activity (albiet, phrased more like Twin-Skies put it). I have nothing against little league or anything of the sort, I am just pointing out that what the doc claims to be flaws another organization (which I am willing to bet said doctor would endorse as a healthy social activity) claims the exact same thing as benefits.

Let me get this straight: I'm playing Super Mario Bros., I stomp on the first Goomba in World 1-1, and increases my thoughts of violence? It's not like we're going to be invaded by Bowser anytime soon, but if we are, at least we know how to take down his troops.

Violent games make me want to kill... other players and AI enemies. Funny how they don't make me want to shoot my own teammates though, or innocent targets in games that punish that sort of behaviour. Isn't it odd how, when playing a violent game, I'm capable of differentiating between things I should and shouldn't shoot, yet when I step outside in the real world with my semi-automatic I lose that ability.

Isn't it odd that butchers spend their days hacking at fresh meat with knives yet rarely murder their families when they get home? Then there's all those criminal investigators who might have to get into the mind of a killer and analyse gruesome evidence but seem strangely reluctant to go on killing sprees of their own. Don't even get me started on armed police and trained infantry. Oh, and the movie industry's sick mind for violence has yet to result in any notable atrocities (insert your own bad movie joke here).

I think that's it, you know. People who are exposed to realistic violence in the course of their day jobs are OK and can cope with it. People who choose to expose themselves to violence in their *free time* though are eroding their own sense of morality.

yes its true.
when im done playing world of warcraft i go out killing peoples whit my magic wand.
and then i of course skin them and sell their skins to supermarket.

@ Roozle

Thanks for that link, much obliged.

Ah geez... Not this again.

ok...This doesnt piss me off.


Honestly because they really did give equal time to both partys, and they were not pushing any sort of agenda.

The news station simply said

"some people say this"
"other people say that"
"both party's agree that there needs to be some form of parental involvement"

sure...some of the things that were said, were ridiculous...


But overall I feel that (for once) the news casters really arent to blame here.

"Just like any new media, it gets attacked. When any new genre of music comes out, it gets attacked. TV will, of course, get attacked. I’m sure, way back when, books got attacked."

Television was already attacked. Books have been attacked since their inception, and continue to be to this day (Harry Potter, anyone). The most pertinent comparison, I think, is comic books.

I don't suppose there's any chance that this station would pay any attention to people calling the utterly ridiculous nature of this piece's claims into question.