ESRB's Vance Meets with PA Legislative Task Force Today

ESRB's Vance Meets with PA Legislative Task Force Today

February 15, 2008
ESRB president Patricia Vance is scheduled to meet with a legislative task force studying video game violence today in Harrisburg.

Vance will provide the group with an overview of the video game industry's content rating system.

The task force was assembled last year in response to H.R. 94, a resolution passed unanimously by the Pennsylvania House. Task force members are studying the effects of violent media on children.

As GamePolitics has previously reported, Pennsylvania legislators are keenly aware of the constitutional difficulties which have doomed video game legislation in other states and seem to searching for alternative solutions.

Both Gov. Ed Rendell (D) and Attorney General Tom Corbett (R) have been supportive of game ratings and parental console controls in recent times.

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Well, it's not that people want the government to raise their kids, it's that they want the government to raise everybodys kids. They hear something on television about how video games are created by the devil incarnate, and so they believe it. There is just something about new technology that scares some people. The problem is that with the news always looking to fear monger, the few people willing to put their reputations on the line to spread malicious lies are given a greater voice. Some channels label anyone who is looking to drum up trouble as experts and anyone who is rational the anti-christ.

All in all, this'll likely last until more gamers get into public office.
OMG!! The Burg is in gamer news and it is not good - again...
[runs and hides out of embarrassment]
Task Force? My mind may be fuzzy but the the only time I know when one is made is when you start a war. Anyway, why is it when anything needs to be done they appoint a committee or a task force (or anthing with a special name) to do the work for them? Can't they let individuals make up their minds or even have Rendell or Corbett loko at it themselves, shock if they had to do any work themselves.
The ratings system and parental controls are the BEST ways to keep mature content away from youngsters. So what alternatives are these guys looking for exactly?
The way that does not require any parental interaction at all, the kids are simply raised by Mario, Hudson Horstachio, Master Chief and Marcus Fenix
@ Pominator

And Conker and Leisure Suit Larry. They're great role models!
What's next? COPPs? Covert Opperative Pong Players?

Currently there are two options for adults who don't want to bother raising their own kids: condoms and the orphanage.

Seriously, how hard is it to read the black box on the games? For a parent not to know about it they would have to be ACTIVELY trying to avoid it. Even the ADVERTISEMENTS say "Rated M for Mature". What goes through their head? "Well Bobby is pretty mature for a seven year old, I guess he can play Blood Strippers and the Silk Sheets of Doom..."

Seriously, hand a parent a movie box and a videogame box, then turn on the video camera. Ask them to find the rating on the movie box. Even if it is in small print on the back, they will find it. Now ask them to find the rating on the video game box. They will flip it over once, look for a total of three forth of a second, and say "I dunno." Even though it is larger, more detailed, and always in the same place.

Now guess what. Your kid probably has the games in his room, right? Well, how do you know he doesn't have Playboys? You look? Well why can't you look to see if there are Mature rated games? You say he will just play them over at his friends house? What would you do if you caught his friend giving him Playboys? You would talk to his friends mother? Well, why wouldn't that work for M rated games?

Everything parents say about how they can't keep violent games out of their kids hands are BULL, just petty excuses. I don't know why, but parents seem to just give up when it comes to videogames, they don't even try. Then they complain the government isn't doing something? What do you want? FBI to come in and search your kid's room? Maybe a better waste of taxpayers money is to give parents an IQ test.
@mogbert

Some movies don't even HAVE ratings on them. Plus, many movies only give the rating and don't specify any of the content on the inside...
Who wants the bet they might bring up yesterday's NIU shooting, even though the shooter was just recently identified as being 27 years old?
@chadachada(123)
That is even more to my point. People can release the "unrated" version of movies, no problem. But videogames have a voluntary rating system that has so far been followed very closely, even when applying for the rating blows the games cover and leaks it's release.

Videogame ratings are far and away much BETTER then the movie ratings, but parents get stupid around game boxes, like it's some sort of blue kryponite or something. Most of them won't even look or read a box their kids push into their hands. "Whazzit?" "It's a game dad, buy it for me." "Whaevr." Now if he had pushed a movie into his dad's hands, the dad would flip it over and see what's it rated, and if they might want to see it as well. But parents seem to think that you can only enjoy videogames if you are young, so they don't put any interest into it.
GP, thanks for tracking this one. Keep us up to date, I will keep my letter writing pencil sharp. I'm not a big fan of Rendell to begin with, but at least Corbett seems to have a good stance on games. Has Rendell gone on record somewhere I haven't seen with a stance one way or the other?
EDIT: I realize he was a member of several pols who signed up for ESRB support, but Corbett did so on his own volition.
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Mogbert, you explain exactly how I feel. ESRB is better then the movie rating system in every way. Rated M has 17+ on it, does rated R have that?

Does another remember in the Fox news report, there is a guy who asked why not give mass effect AO, the highest rating. I have two questions about that statement.
1) How does he know about AO but not rated M being for 17+.
2) You seen worse in movies rated A14, but just because someone is having sex does it mean an immediate rated R? why would video games be any different.

One more point. Violent children has been an all time low for the past 30 years. What's different? Oh, video games. Lets ban it. Why not make new laws so children can't have easy access to guns? Maybe we should ban any assault weapons? They are almost never been used for good in the hands of citizens. The only guns that I see isn't overkill are handguns, hunting guns, and shotguns. Any more powerful then that is over kill.
@ mogbert

Blood Strippers, hunh? I gotta get me that game.


Also, I think the vast majority of people think the ESRB is a good indicator of what is in the game. The people we hear complaining are in the minority, and they shout the loudest, so they're heard the most. I think most people don't do anything about these stupid bills that get made because they either:

1) Are too lazy to do anything

2) Don't know they exist

3) Don't think they can do anything

I, honestly, don't blame them for thinking they can't do anything about them. Politicians seem to work in their best interest, and best interest of the corporation backing them, rather than their constituents. Just look at the DMCA, I've seen a lot of people vocally against it, and have seen articles in major newspapers against it, yet the DMCA was recently extended. Why? Because the corporations wanted it, not because the people wanted it.
Also, I like the other pictures of Patricia better. That one makes her look a little homely. lol.
They would call themselves weapons inspectors if they could...
Smart level= politics,50%

Smart level= gamers, 95%

I think that gamers are smarter than politics.
We already know that fictional violence is not the for 90% of the population including kids....I think a few thousand years worth of media have proved that....
I dont get why people get all crazy and start blameing video games for some public shootings going on these days. they just seem to look past the fact that most of these people are tormented psychopaths that could find no other way to express themselves by shooting up a shopping mall..... maybe the government should put more money into trying to help these people instead of trying to ban VideoGames. although i do not think small childeren should play some games, because they just dont need to be exposed to some things till they're older.....

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