I wonder if this can upgrade his status from "massacre chasing vulture" to "massacre chasing monster."

I love the name calling, Jacko.

Oh no! Run for your lives! It's Jack Thompson and his dreaded lawsuit! Can't he ever do anything original? Him suing people for no reason is so predictable.

Jack Thompson have you no shame? (do I even need to ask?)

Anyhow... something interesting has happened. I know that Cho didn't play videogames and the JT's whole basis is an incorrect story on the Washington Post website. But he's been saying it so much that I'm actually starting to believe that Cho played counterstrike... weird...

Somebody go to the Florida Bar web site and file a complaint or call the Florida Bar, I don't know how, but for the love of God do something.

If I am not provided with this information, I shall bring a civil action to secure these documents.

And any sensible judge will not waste his / her time with such sensationalist claims and immediate dismiss any civil proceedings brought on by John Bruce Thompson to save valuable tax dollars.

absolutely sickening....

@DarknessDeku

ok just a bit pissed at this jack hole

[...] Not only did Thompson appear on the news, blaming video games for the atrocity, even before the police had given a press conference, he is now trying to force the university’s public safety department to hand over documents which reveal the killer played games. [...]

"‘’The killers in the two worst school massacres in history—in Erfurt, Germanay, and at Virginia Tech University—similarly trained on Counter-Strike to rehearse for their killing sprees.'’

CHO DIDNT TRAIN ON COUNTER STRIKE YOU MORON STOPP SAYING IT

STTTOOOPPPP SSAAYIINGGG IT PLEEEASEE YOU KNOWWWW ITT ISSNTT TRUEEE !!

FFS!!! HE ONLY PLAYED SONIC THE HEDGEHOG STOP LYING YOU COMPLETELY VILE HATE-FILLED, WORD TWISTING SNAKE OF A SO CALLED MAN"

For the record: Neither did Steinhäuser in Erfurt. That was something the press made up: Steinhäuser didn't even have internet so he was not even able to play Counter Strike.

Gee...what a shock.

I hope the school goes after JT for harassment. Can the families sue him for wasting investigation efforts? I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't try to contact the families to see if he could represent them in a lawsuit. If they say no he will still "sue on their behalf".

*shakes head in disgust* Now this douchebag has gone too far. Threatening to sue NIU if he doesn't get information about an alumni's video game habits is just plain sick. What I think is if he does go to court over something like this, I think he should have his BAR which allows him to practice law taken away. PERMANENTLY!!! Also, calling someone an idiot for asking a legitimate question is just begging to get hit. Insulting someone's intelligence is wrong in the first place and like I said, I think he should be revoked of his ability to practice law forever.

He even call you idiot. That damn attention whore...

--facepalm--

Pathetic. That's all I can say about Jacko at this point. I think at this point the best thing is to get him all the media attention we can because he reveals himself to be the ambulance chasing slime ball he truly is with every word that falls from his mouth.

I can't believe that he is still claiming that Cho "trained" on Counter Strike to pull of the VTech massaacre. Cho was rather unique among males his age in that he played almost no video games. The man is just blatently lying at this point. And it is disgusting that he is wasting the time of those involved with the investigation of this case. Furthermore it is appauling that he is once again exploiting a tragedy to generate irrational emotional support for his increasingly bizzare personal crusade. I just wish that the news media would point out that every credible investigation of media effects would suggest that Thompson's claims are simply ludicrous. The problem is that Thompson is such an insignificant fringe lunatic that most of the accademic community wouldn't even consider him to be worth their time.

He just asked them to make copies, not to have them?

Jack, the guy is 27- of course he played games.


Here is what happens now:

1) JT opens lawsuit against Microsoft, Rockstar, Sony (his faves) for the deaths.

2) JT's suit ignores the fact that the guy was a diagnosed mental case.

3) Lawsuit is thrown out, JT sues the judge, acts like a child, rants about the corrupt games industry.

4) Another act of violence is committed by someone under 40, JT gets a massive erection and calls Fox News to masturbate his ego.

5) Rinse and repeat.


You're Soooooooooo cute when you pretent to be important, Jack :)

Perverse, Obscene, and abusive. That is the only way to describe John Bruce's actions.

Here is the worst part of his actions:
As reported by Gaming Today, John Bruce actually sent a letter to the NIU President asking to be invited to spew his version of what he preceives, in his guttertrash mind, to be the reason for the shooting.
Now he threatens to sue NIU if he doesn't get his way.

Moreover, he LIED straight out about the NY Post story. The story author claimed to interview an old roommate. At NO POINT IN THE STORY did it claim that Steven used the game to train to commit the massacre. Moreover, other intelligent reports indicated that many students in the dorm had played the same game. Yet only one individual committed this act. And yet further, more responsible journalists report that the hard drives are missing from the computers confiscated, or so the last reports stated.

So HOW does he intend to obtain ANY information from those computers?

Also, let us note that he has previously claimed to have had contact with investigators and even DAs in certain cases. Robida anyone? I seem to recall the DA stating that it would have been illegal for any investigator to share information with John Bruce and the DA's office also stated that THEY had provided NO information to him as well.

John Bruce claims to be an "Elder" in his church (Key Biscayne Baptist Church, wasn't it?). I wonder how the leaders of his church, whichever it may be, feel about him lying and deceiving others in the name of his God as well as Mentally Molesting the individuals, families, and the communities that suffer these tragedies just to push his personal, religious, and/or political beliefs? And I don't mean what HE thinks they think. I mean if they know the Truth, The WHOLE Truth, And Nothing But The Truth about his antics and how THEY feel about them.

Nightwng2000
NW2K software

Out of interest, who pays for all these law suits? Im guessing its the US tax payer. Well at least we know its all going to a good cause...

Can't say I'm surprised. A Freedom of information act request isn't really a big deal, even if the timing is insensitive.

Not sure what the university would be able to tell him though, I doubt they monitor what games people play. I suppose they might have some traffic logs at most, but what would that tell anyone?

Oh and why is it Jack is frequently so rude? Isn't being up for disbarring message enough for the man? Honestly, he behaves like a petulant teenager... I can only surmise that he doesn't really believe his own rhetoric, after all if all of us were truly trained on murder simulators (sic) wouldn't he be at least a little more courteous? *roll-eyes*

Gift.

Sick. Just sick, Jack. You have no claim to humanity or morals.

Please will they just disbar him already, knock him down a couple of rungs, even if he'll never fall off the ladder.

please let them mourn... you can chase your fucking massacre later.

i wonder how jack thompson will react to spore, it acually being closer to a simulator then anything the jackass is blaming now of days

So he gave up on Rockstar and is probably going for Valve now.

JT's gonna have one heck of a time trying to prove that Counter-Strike trains anyone to shoot a gun.

"Pursuant to the Illinois Freedom of Information Act, I hereby request production of copies of all documents that reveal Steven Kazmierczak’s play of violent video games, including but not limited to the use of his computer to play Counter-Strike, which he apparently, according to the New York Post, used to rehearse for his Valentine’s Day Massacre at NIU...

The NIU investigators have already responded, professionally, and told me they will get me this information in due time. This is how you do this, which you wouldn’t know."

Kudos to them for responding professionally. Which is more than you're capable of...

I can see it now.

"Dear Mr. Thompson,
We found nothing indicating he played video games,
Have a nice day,
NIU Investigators"

"Dear Jerk-Wipes-In-Pay-of-Child-Molestors,
I said give me the proof! Gimme! You stupid idiots! Don't you know who you're dealing with! Conspiracy! I was on TV! I'll sue! Cover-up! You're all video game players! Admit it! I know the President! He's on my speed-dial! He'll arrest you for not doing your job!
Govern yourself accordingly,
Desperate-man-seeking-attention"

Why not sue GM for all the cars that have killed people over the years?

No offense, but I think Jack was right to call you an idiot. That question you asked implied he would be capable of tact and decency. Have you learned nothing?

Please get disbarred already, fuckwit!

[...] Today, 18:14 As if the whole ambulance chaser role isn't enough, it seems Jack Thompson wants the entire Video Game past of the man responsible for what happened last week, and he claims he wants to file a lawsuit against NIU just to make sure he does. GamePolitics.com

I'm thinking that Jack Thompson would be a non-problem anywhere outside of the U.S. because after all, countries like Canada play as much violent videogames but there's not a lot of school shooting in Canada. No massacre to chase would make Jack Thompson pointless and sad. Not that he isn't in U.S. too.

Thompson's still using Virginia Tech to back-up his theories... We really need someone to speak up against this guy.

I'm not sure, but I thought it was mentioned the last time a school shooting happened and JT asked for basically the same information - documents and information relating to an ongoing police investigation are immune from FOIA requests.

Ya know, that response just sums up Jack..

"This is how you do this, which you wouldn’t know."

Too funny. Everything he does seems to be unprofessional, unethical, for his own personal gain, and/or childish. And yet he claims to be doing this the right way (after calling someone an idiot in the previous paragraph, no less).

He needs to be disbarred for his own mental health - most likely he'll see it as a conspiracy against him, but there's a small chance that it might shake him up enough to see that HE is the one with the problem. Until that happens, he's just a danger to everyone around.

GameTwat: How do you account for the fact that every country in Europe has videogames, and a mere percentage of the school shootings?

Jack Thompson: Because we have more guns. Kind of simple.

--
Case closed?

Jack is retarded a game is not possible way to train to kill someone. First there is no sence of empthy when playing a game, compared to killing something in real life. Second there is no way that this guy could play Counter strike for 9 years and then pull out a 12 guage and start blasing. Unless this guy mapped out the school and made a level devoted to going after the people, he could not have trained on a video game.

Why does he keep lying about videogame habits? I even have counter strike, but I never played it. It came with my copy of Hal Life 2, for free.

The guy at VTech may have played the game at some point in the past, but then again, most of the world has. If you add in Unreal Tournament and Quake (all flavors), you probably have a statistical fish in a barrel.

It almost as if he thinks that by telling the same lie over and over, it will become true. Maybe he is a Scient-

Jack Thompson is going to Hell.

What records would the school have of this anyway? Does this school actually keep records of what games people play? I imagine the students will be quite upset knowing such a file is being kept about them.

Here is an idea.

Can somebody who has good writing skills write the schools newspaper and let them know about what JT is trying to do in all this. I think the student population would love to know it is happening and if the school really will provide private information like that. Anybody up for it?

I believe this below is the school indy paper:
http://www.northernstar.info/

Morality has suffered a causality, a fatality in the cause of insanity....

JT has shown he's nothing more than a attention seeker.

Where was Jack Thompson in the early 80s when all those kids were dying of Pac-Man fever?

i think we sould just ignore the guy now like a ranting crazy man with a sign reading 'the end is nigh', hes gone beyond the mildly amusing phase towards mentaly unstable. if current reports are true he is soon to be disbarred, a fitting end

Gotta agree with Matt, this is the last few surfacing bubbles that remain of a man who convinced himself he was Jesus and tried to walk on water. Let the poor deranged man sink in peace.

Well that is it. Before we could kind of argue that Jack was eccentric, prone to exaggeration, prone to theatrics, and overzealous. Now he is an outright liar. He's said things before that aren't true like starting jackandgoliath.com like saying that he was invited to talk at the GDC but now he has directly gone against what he has always claimed.

He has always said that he didn't want to ban violent videogames only ban the sale of them to minors. Now he is actively pursuing a case involving a 27 year old who was at least 18 when the game came out. If Jacko is pursuing this then there is only one reason: to assert that violent videogames are dangerous for anyone regardless of age. This directly contradicts everything he has ever said.

Jack Thompson is a liar.

i hope hell exists because that is exactly what this asshole deserves.

Still ignoring the fact the the guy was batshit crazy and off his meds.

All these school shootings, horrible horrible crimes committed against innocent undeserving people, kids just getting on with their education, whom in no way deserve to be so brutally treated.

Now crazy Christian lawyers....that's another story. =P

Everytime Jack or anyone else uses virgina tech as an arguement againest video games, please send them this link: http://www.governor.virginia.gov/TempContent/techPanelReport-docs/FullRe...

and scroll down to page 32.

I like to think that video games teaches the gamer on how to murder as much as guitar hero teaches one on how to play an actual guitar; can you say NOTHING AT ALL?

Internet records could tell you what someone played if you knew what you were looking for. However it wouldn't stand in court because games can use the same ports.

Most schools keep a surprising amount of information on what has been accessed or sent over the school network on the way to the internet.

Another well thought out move by the master of righteousness and good timing. Jack Thompson is showing us all how to become perfect, like him. He learns, improves, and wins. It's a surefire strategy. He learned from VT he shouldn't go soft on the grieving. Being correct has no time for tears.

Now he's striking while they're weak. You'll all learn that this is the only right way to deal with tragedy

note to jack - the ' Valentine’s Day Massacre ' has already been used to describe an event, way to link mob violence to so called ' video game ' violence.

Not that I condone trivial law suits, in the end it just makes the tax payers pay and insurance rates to rise, however, can't the game companies sue for slander? If he keeps sticking his head up his @$$ and coming out with outrageous unfounded remarks, can't they beat him at his own game and start sueing for slander? Basically take away his bank and he can no longer do anything. Sue to have his licensed removed? Something along those lines....use a knife in a knife fight so to speak.

Jabrwock has it right. If NIU is smart, they'll do just this:

1) accept his FOIA request, as per the law

2) let it sit for the legally allowable amount of time while they deal with the stuff that's ACTUALLY IMPORTANT (like, say, helping the campus community to recover after a senseless tragedy)

3) respond to him, as required by law, saying, "we have no official records in regards to the deceased's video game playing. Now, go away."

Because, why the hell would they have any records of it? Does Jacko think that colleges maintain files on every student who has ever fired up anything from Wolfenstein 3D to GTA4? Get real. Even if they do have some records, what the hell is that supposed to prove? Basically every kid everywhere has played a violent video game, and as Cho Seung-Hui proved, you don't have to play video games to be goddamned nutcase.

Also, unfortunately, disbarment is a pretty rare occurrence, so we might not get the pleasure of seeing this guy be professionally discredited in this way. I hope I'm wrong about this, though.

How much lower can this man sink?

"Mattie Says:

February 18th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
How much lower can this man sink? "


Well....he could always skin a few babys to make himself some clothes
but other than that i dont think its possible(but i wouldnt put that baby thing past him)

@ Ken: AYE!

@GP

can you show us the letter he mailed you? I want to see how many times he lied.

Why is JT *STILL* allowed to practice law?

Why is JT *STILL* not in a padded, LOCKED, jail-cell?

Its very sad tragedy for all those families. Last thing any of them, the police and the friends need....is some imbelice on a crusade for something unrelated to their feelings. Let the families and friends grieve in peace.

I'd like to say I'm surprised - but I'm not.
He quite obviously has no shame.


Ah well. You know what they say about people who live in glass houses.

as much as I would enjoy seeing JT being eaten by a pack of starved hyenas, I actually feel sorryy for him; He's nothing more than a serial liar who's moods fluctuate more than a pregnant woman, and is fighting for a "cause" that will definately never see the light of day in this country.

We are Anonymous.

We are legion.

We do not forgive.

We do not forget.

We do it for the lulz.

Expect Us Mr. Thompson

@ Anonymous251

You make me embarrassed to post on 4chan.

Hu... wha...how...who....

...

Your heartless, uncaring behavior has -- Again! -- rendered me speechless, Mr. Thompson. *headdesk*

Ya know, I once saw something bright in the sky, so aliens MUST exist.
Yep.
There's proof right there, because I'm apparently infallible and everything I say is fuckin' law.
See how this works, Jack?

I mean, who has the (lack of?) balls to threaten to sue a college that just lost a bunch of kids to a psycho who decided not to take his pills??
Jack, you're sinking lower, and lower, and lower, and fuckin' lower in your tactics.

Hey um Jack...sorry to tell you but that's not how it works anymore.

So you're going to file a lawsuit?

Questions:
What is your cause of action?
Are you sure you meet the pleading requirements (they're higher than they were a couple of years ago...check your recent case law)
Are you sure you can survive a motion to dismiss?
Are you suing in federal or state court?
Under what statute are you planning to file?
Does that statute provide a private right of action?
Who are you representing? Yourself?
If you are representing someone, are you a member of the Illinois bar?
If you are not, have you disclosed that to your client?

Bottom line...I have a better idea of how this is done than you, and I'm still in my first year of law school.

I really, REALLY hope NIU takes this approach (which is perfectly legal);

They print out ALL this stuff (basically anything not confidential under the law) place it in a room (so just hundreds of thousands of pages of junk) and tell Jack

"Here ya go, you can look through this, but you aren't allowed to take any of it with you...hope you brought a notebook and pen"

That would be perfectly legal and in any case quite a bit of what Jack is asking is probably covered under the Federal Education Rights Privacy Act (FERPA) so he's not likely to get much of anything anyway.

I knew one of the victims .... and I didn't think I could get any angrier than I was already.

He's right.

We wouldn't know anything about being a blood-sucking, crackpot lawyer.

I can vouch for NIU because I used to be a student there, my brother is a current student there, and my mother works there. I will simply say that when it comes to getting things done, NIU has had a rather obscure pattern for being a little slow on the draw at times with certain projects. Other times, however, they get things done in the blink of an eye.

In this case, I'm going to go out on a limb and say they may be a little slow with this response because they do have a few other things going on right now. This is not a personal attack on NIU, it's just that I know them a little more personally than most others here.

In other words, Mr. Thompson probably won't get a response until sometime next year at the soonest. (Just kidding, it's probably going to take more like a month.)

whats the matter, Jack? Got tired of chasing ambulances and figured you could just wait for the next school shooting to happen that screamed "Violent Video Games" to you? you want to help? then stop being a douche by suing every tom dick and harry, INC and help in a more constructive and postive way. Help educate and inform. Dont be the Attention Whore that you are!

from the washingtonpost.com.

"Kazmierczak grew up northwest of Chicago, in Elk Grove Village, and played saxophone in the school band. He spent time in a mental health center in his late teens, and police have said without elaboration that he had stopped taking some kind of medication in the days or weeks before the shooting.

His girlfriend, Jessica Baty, told CNN on Sunday that he had stopped taking an antidepressant about three weeks ago because "it made him feel like a zombie." "

As a form of protest, I say we all email our COD4, Counterstrike and Halo 3 records to JT. Whose with me?

Isn't he expelled from the Florida bar yet? Come on Bar association, please do all of us a favor and remove Mr. Thompson's license.

I'm going to have to group my GamePolitics RSS feed with my webcomics. Jack's adventures have to be a work of fiction. Right? Please?

I'm sure Jack would love my university and the Creative Computer Games Design course I am on. We have UT2004, UT3, Medal of Honour, Doom and Far Cry. What is also better the Uni ask us at the end of each year what games we would like so we can make mods or just play them in LAN matches within class.

If this were from any lawyer but Jack, I'd be disgusted at their audacity. Since it's Jack, I can only assume he's desperate to be right this time before the collective backlash of all his accumulated stupid moves will hit him in the face like a sledgehammer.

Threatening to subpoena a University for documents that may not even exist for his own "crusade" against violent video games while the university itself is attempting to pull itself up from a tragedy is one of the most base and shameless actions I have ever seen out of Jack Thompson.

This only goes to reinforce his public persona as a hypocritical, festering cesspool of moral bankruptcy.

Exactly what documents would exist? I doubt the guy was in the habit of recording, "Dear Diary, today I played CS for 43 minutes. Along with last week's playtime of 78 minutes, I feel I am now capable of utilizing an assault rifle."

He's masturbating his ego over at Destructoid, too.

http://www.destructoid.com/thompson-gamers-don-t-care-about-dead-people-...

@everyone

stop feeding the trolls people.

dont' you get it that JT will use the worst comments here to demonize us? Like take WarOtter's post. he'd say that he's beign targeted by you putting up his address.

stop just posting meaningless curses and insults. I understand how much you hate Jack Thompson, but posting those opinions here, where he obviously trolls aroudn even without posting means your just giving him ways to demonize gamers and not helping the situation. instead rant on your own site, where JT obviously won't go. Sure it's not public, but ranting here just lets him try to make us into something we aren't.

@ pen gun

as you may be aware of already, Anonymous is currently focusing on dismantling Scientology, but keep an eye out for the video messages on YouTube.

So let this be a lesson to all you gamers out there. If you are going to commit mass murder, don't use a gun. Use high explosives and claim you learned it from Hamas and CNN.

I don't see why he is going after the school. It's not the school's job to see what he does everyday.

Its not press from GamePolitics and similar sites that Jack Thompson cares about, its the cable news networks. He isn't trying to sell his book to us, he is selling it to the populace at large who when they hear the word "Video Game" they think "Pac-Man". Every time JT shows up on TV, the gaming public needs to send polite well written letters to said networks informing them of his lies. Only then will JT go away.

Jacky Boy continues to prove there is no low to which he will not stoop.

I posted a quote a few days ago that said that Thompson should be ashamed of himself, that Northern Illinois' pain is not his commodity, and that when NIU students go back to school changed forever, he's going to chasing the next massacre that he helped create like the vulture he is, only instead of picking the remains of a rancid armadillo off a lonely Texas highway, he preys on the living.

That stain on the underwear of life Jack Thompson can go to hell.

I feel no hatred for Jack Thompson only pity. He's a sad sad man, I've known many of his type and I can't feel anything but pity. He's an unsuccessful self delusional mediocre man who can not accept his own mediocrity. I doubt highly he has many friends or close family. I'm sure he has some friends and family, but I doubt they respect him.

He reminds me of my old university roommate who was a mean underhanded and aggressive hermit, couldn't make friends and was out and out malicious towards me because I was more successful than him (I found first year fairly easy, and spent a lot of time slacking off, where his fervent studying generally earned him mid 70s). In the end he tried to get me kicked out but ended up moving out, and a lot of people thought I should be angry at him, but I just felt sad. His life will be a serious of unfulfilling, self induced hardships and I doubt he'll ever be really happy. How can we be mad at Jack Thompson? The poor man.

The American judicial system is cray-cray, and that's why JT isn't disbarred yet.

This act is shameless, sure, but it's been foreshadowed by a previous lawsuit that targeted the chief of police in one county. Thompson demanded that the police look into a criminial's history of video games. This latest attempt is deja-vu. But then again every single JT does now is very deja-vu.

John Bruce is a sick dirty parasite, an ambulance chasing filthy little beggar-man. He deserves no pit, no anger, nothing that would commit him to memory. He should be forgotten like the turd in the drainpipe that he is.
That is all.

Game Over.

"I hereby request production of copies of all documents that reveal Steven Kazmierczak’s play of violent video games,"

If documents such as those do exist, my guess is there will be very very few. Seriously, why would the college keep record of his video gaming habits? Wouldn't that be an invasion of privacy? And if not why would the college choose to risk a court battle just to find out his video gaming style?

If Jack really wants to learn about his habits wouldn't it make so much more sense to simply ask his roommates?

Perhaps there's the fact that he couldn't threaten his room mates with BS legal action if they didn't comply.

We can only guess.

I would like to thank Jack Thompson for reinforcing my decision to be pro-choice.

I really wish psychos like this didn't exist... I am refering to both the shooter and Jacko...

The truth is crazy people exist and all we can do is try to limit the harm they do to society.

"respond to him, as required by law, saying, “we have no official records in regards to the deceased’s video game playing. Now, go away.”"

THIS.

Seriously, I know everyone has said it, but I'm going to say it again.

1. Why would the school have records of what computer games he played?
2. It is entirely inappropriate for Jack to interrupt their period of mourning to chase an ambulance through a disaster. I detect no shared mourning, no grief for what has occurred. I see a little man who wants to get back at the world for his own stupidity. How this man still has a law license is beyond me.

@Kobra
I wouldn't really joke about that if I were you.

He's one nut in a whole slew of people, just like the shooters (only not nearly as bad)

"Thompson challenges Della Rocca to a series of gaming debates and explains that they each stand to net $3,000 or more per event. Della Rocca declined this money-making endeavor, though not before suggesting they instead agree to a free debate...which Thompson declined."

...a class act all the way.

Rarely in my life have I been so absolutely disgusted by another human being as I have been by Jack Thompson in this instance.

Re: The MSNBC article.

There is one thing ruining my enjoyment of that article. MSNBC is part of the Microsoft empire. Microsoft publishes Counter-Strike for the Xbox. What are the chances of Jack suggesting biased reporting?

jack you dick head
you only have two jobs
1 make shure that your head is a dick
2 make shure its attached to your neck

GP could you please send that to him for me
he calls you an idiot ill call him a dick head

Pursuant to the Illinois Freedom of Information Act, I hereby request production of copies of all documents that reveal ...
Reminds me of a cretin net.kook, who even appears on the FOIA wiki....

Not like this is the first time Jack Thompson the massacre chaser made such demands, and ended up COMPLETELY WRONG.

If I am not provided with this information, I shall bring a civil action to secure these documents.
Speaking of "civil," legal threats and demanding them to pursue your personal agenda soon after such a tragic even sure isn't... And considering the previous cases where he pulled "they must have destroyed the evidence!!!" excuse, is he going to repeatedly use the FOIA like that same kook?

The NIU investigators have already responded, professionally, and told me they will get me this information in due time. This is how you do this, which you wouldn’t know.

Ah, he got the standard "whatever you say you jerk, we'll humor you for now, and give you the same information we give all the others" form-letter response.

And I have just realized something, what if such games only made up %10 or less of the ones he played? I have the GTA games and some FPSes, but the amount of them I have only fall into that same percent. A good amount of my gaming cash & time is into RPGs and puzzle games, which people like Jack WILL DELIBERATELY IGNORE! To them the existent of one big name FPS and/or GTA = the cause of all our problems and what should be 100% focused on..

Maybe someone should tell the Moron that the Freedom of Information Act can only be used on the government. Not a private institution.

I'm also wondering... JT's 'crusade' was one of public perception more than actual right and wrong. His lawsuits alone won't get games off the shelves. His intent was to use the threat of lawsuits to scare the game industry off, and to make enough public appearances about the 'dangers' of violent games that public opinion at large would turn against the game industry (because it is not whether or not you're right, but whether or not people think you're right.)

Given that, though, this heavy-handedness on the part of JT, I have to wonder if it might work against him in the way that the RIAA's litigation campaign has worked against it. There may be potential gains in finding a game link here, but JT's habit of showing up and crying about games before the bodies are cold may just piss off a lot of people. Media companies that don't agree with his stance won't air him anyway, and those that do agree with him aren't really helping the cause by putting such an unsympathetic face on the anti-game movement.

Ugh, Savior on a Saltine...

@Oz

I'd just save the energy you use for typing, man.

All he'd see from that post is: "Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah I hate Jesus and children"

@Kenji-sama
More like he does read them all in full, but cherry picks them, and the few he does respond to he deliberatively ignores parts-of/all-of them.

The truth in my comments must have got to him, he replied to one part of it and ignored all the points I brought up/asked him.

And the one part he replied to, far as I remember, was with something along the lines of "LOL, I R SMARTE, UR NOT"...

Why not turn stuff like this over to CNN or MSNBC. We can't get a fair shake from Foxnews, but, by god, a story about a lawyer suing NIU days after the shooting to get records the cops might not even have yet, simply to further his own agenda would be good TV. I'm sure the Florida Bar would love to hear about Mr. Thompson trying to contact an agency that is, probably, owned by the school, thus would have legal representation through the school. Thereby, attempting to contact those individuals without going through the proper legal channels would be contacting an individual who is already being represented, a violation of pretty much every states Bar regulations and code of conduct. Just a thought.

@ Benji

You may have a point about that. Joystiq’s piece last month expressed kind of the same kind of sentiment; that Jack’s crusade and TV appearances are more of a way of generating his brand of propaganda in an effort to sway public opinion. Here’s the quote:

Of course, this all comes back to why Jack's typical modus operandi is on the publicity front. Jack is a smart guy, and he knows that he will have ground to stand on if and only if the laws back him up. To that end, he needs to win the hearts and minds of the people in order to impact the lawmakers who may then put him in a position where the laws back him. While he may never win the hearts and minds of gamers, there are plenty of people out there who are swayed by anything from the misleading to the completely absurd. It's an erosion process, not a Mythbusters-style explosion, and every negative game story is another wave over the rocks. Jack's hopes also rest on the court taking a radical turn on its current trend of striking down every video game law on free speech grounds, which seems unlikely.

However, as you said, this may backfire on him for the reasons you cited. Showing up on TV before the bodies are cold really does appear crass and insensitive. You would have thought he would have learned that from VT. Then again, this is Jack we’re talking about.

Also, saying that Cho played Counter-Strike is another lie.

To Anonymous:

Thank you for continuing your actions against Scientology. However, I believe we gamers are more numerous by far, and have this lone moron as well controlled as possible.

It would not be wise nor useful to involve Anonymous (as Anonymous) in this fight. As gamers, yes. Independent from Project Chanology, there are millions of gamers around America. Some are Anonymous. Many are not.

Neither we nor Anonymous can prevent Thompson from going to Fox News (Completely imbalanced) and lying with every 'statement of fact' he presents. We cannot change the dirty tactics of Rupert Murdock's "News Network" (which has successfully defended its right to lie to the public).

We can communicate with our legislators and representatives to tell them the truth. We can defend our 'hobbies', our livings, our art forms, our speech from needless and small-minded repression.

This is an information war, but it is not one with a worthy opponent. His antics are reprehensible, but they do not destroy lives. He has shown himself in the past to be trying for martyrdom, inviting physical attack to justify his perverted morality, hoping that there will be some young gamer warped by a murder simulator that will shoot him while yelling about terminology from GTA or CounterStrike.

Jack cannot be attacked any more directly than the Florida bar already is attacking him. Jack is also making himself look completely foolish without any additional help. He has no lulz left beyond what he generates in completely contradicting himself and showing total ignorance of the issues.

We've got this one, Anonymous.
This is a fight for gamers. And we are winning, despite sensationalism.

Our numbers grow every day, our spending power and voice increases.

Join us if you wish, but do so under the anonymity of your own names and faces. We are a political power, faceless by our numbers. Masks will not help, only the truth.

@Shaun:

In Christianity, I think it goes by 'Satan'.

Enjoy your stay Jack, and no he can't turn the heat down. Sorry (but not really.)

Disgusting.

That's the only thing I can say about JT at this point.

@Ghost Coins

MSNBC has already done what you suggested:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23204875/

Don't know if anyone noticed this link in the MSNBC article (or if it's been reported on by GP before). Looks like JT has pretty much admitted that he only does it for the money http://www.realitypanic.com/archives/301

I just read the MSNBC article regarding Jack Thompson and only one word comes to mind: PWNED! At least let's hope the newsmedia like MSNBC and CNN have learned their lesson regarding Thompson because I doubt Fixed News ever will.

I would LOVE to see Jack go on Kieth Olbermann and really get his ass handed to him. I doubt that'll happen after he went on the Hardball Show after Virginia Tech.

The killer was 27.

Counterstrike came out in 2000, meaning he was an "adult" for the entire time the game was out.

Even if games were proven beyond a doubt to be harmful to children and were banned for all under 18 in the US, this person would have had access to it, being an American adult.

Jack, you haven't got a leg to stand on, unless you're prepared to attack the American constitution.

But if you do, can I suggest attacking the right to bare arms as the source of these problems rather than freedom of speech and expression...

Good Lord, what scum.

Thankfully, he'll soon be unemployed scum.

I had to see it for myself. I could barely believe it when a coworker just told me about it. This from the man that considers gamers socially inept.

I'm glad I'm out here in Cali now for GDC and not back in Orlando. I'd be afraid I might catch JT's brand of stupid as it seems to be spreading like the flu judging from the stories that have gone up while I was traveling and at the conference.

Is it too much to hope that I missed him blowing up and getting banned again as well?

First what documents would the university's public safety have on file about his video gaming habits?

Second, I hope that it is untrue that they just hand over the documents. They should hold onto them. Let a judge decide if Jack should get them. I really hate how some universities just hand over information to whoever asks for it (the RIAA comes to mind).

Wow he really has no respect at all. I'm honeslty getting really sick of hearing this man to the point where his opinion really isn't needed anymore.

@Erik:

So how can Jack from thousands of miles away perform such a Herculean psychology feat on a dead man?

When you're as good at writing fiction as Jack is, it's pretty easy actually. (If I actually gave a crap what happens to him after he's disbarred, I'd say I wonder if he'd consider a career in fiction writing... but then I remember that I just don't care, and move on to something else.)

Anyone here about Jack Thompson challenging a fake Samuel L. Jackson blogger to a debate because he thought he was the real Sam Jackson. The judges are laughing their asses off right now.

...And NIU would have this information because... why?

Oh, right. They wouldn't. Nice job, Jack. Universities don't keep track of how many games someone played or even what games. Go ahead with your lawsuit if you want; you won't win simply because you're asking for information which the university simply won't have unless he discussed it with a psychiatrist, at which point you'd need a subpoena because of HIPPA.

So if Jack has his way does it also mean that if I play a flight sim I am Eligible for a Pilots License?

I hope someone brings up the Jack Thompson who calls people "morons" and "idiots" the next time a debate comes up on network TV where he loves to portray himself as soft-spoken and reasonable.

Stop giving this guy space for discussion. he mails in his press releases expecting space to be dedicated to his antics and he can't even treat site admin's with a modicum of professional respect.

I can get you those documents, Jack:

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There you go.

Too many comments, too little time to read them, so someone might have already said this but...

WHAT documentation?

when will jackie ever learn that the shooter did not kill because of violent video but because he didnt take he medication. the way jack has acted here just proves he does not give a shit about the people dead, he's just looking for some publicity to support his feud with the gaming industry. i just hate it how Fox treats him like an expert, and then the dumbasses that believe everything they watch witness the garbage he says of tv, and then our beloved games get banned.

Jack must really carry the scars of getting wtfpwned by pong when he was a boy :(

this

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson

/me facepalm

He's spelt Germany wrong.

@ Roozle

No, these fucks took Fight Club too seriously and now they have to show the internet how tough they are.

/b/ is such a shithole, I only post on /v/ nowadays.

@nightwng2000

Nah, he wouldn't want a country full of brown people. They make him feel uncomfortable, all those damn native foreigners.

I'm sorry, but I am so fucking sick of this Jack Thompson bullshit.
I mean, the guy's a fucking moron. I can't even listen to him talk for more than 30 seconds. I don't mean to be insensitive, but I found it odd that in his Fox interview immediately following the NIU incident, when asked a question, he ignored it and started talking about video games,
This guy ... I don't even know. The best of luck to him when he gets shot.

Hello everybody. I would just like to say, as a Christian, that Jackoff Thompson makes a comPLETE mockery of us. I play videogames quite regularly, and I have never killed anyone or even (seriously) considered it. He claims to fight for "God's Cause," and I somewhat agree with what he's trying to do, keeping videogames that are the most innapropriate out of the hands of people that are most influenced by it, but the end certainly doesn't justify THESE kind of means. If Jack was half the man he claims to be, he would stop acting like a prick and do things in a non-legalistic and unselfish manner. Instead, he merely threatens to sue any and every person who gets in his way, and is completely indiscriminate as to who he harasses to fulfill his means. He is full of bullcrap in my opinion, and I feel that he does not represent me as a person or a man of Christian faith.
-Thank You,
ActionJackson09

*sigh*
please forgive me for the harsh language anyone, but jack...

shut the fuck up.

we're tired of your crazy rambling. it's not going anywhere. it's never been going anywhere and it will never go anywhere.

@ Toxicity²
Not to mention people have been posting "Anonymously" online well before any of the *chans existed... Or even websites. While I know why it is happening, it is getting annoying with more people lately assuming anonymity= some *chan reference.

Unlike Jack, there are those of use who realized long ago our actions/words online could come back to haunt us, and how nuts like him would stalk us(remember him asking for personal info, posting his and trying to enrage people into harassing him?).

And we don't need a bunch of morons harassing Jack IRL and making things like death threats, again.

[...] This is bad enough, but then on GamePolitics.com, I found where the same sympathetic self-promoter is now threatening the same guy/instutition he was condoling with a civil law suit. WHAT?!? Pursuant to the Illinois Freedom of Information Act, I hereby request production of copies of all documents that reveal Steven Kazmierczak’s play of violent video games, including but not limited to the use of his computer to play Counter-Strike, which he apparently, according to the New York Post, used to rehearse for his Valentine’s Day Massacre at NIU. The killers in the two worst school massacres in history—in Erfurt, Germanay, and at Virginia Tech University—similarly trained on Counter-Strike to rehearse for their killing sprees. If I am not provided with this information, I shall bring a civil action  to secure these documents. [...]

Counter strike doesn't train kids to shoot. On crazy people it may help them to rationalize what they're doing. but that's as far as i'm willing to go. the fact of the matter is despite a visual representation of the act, guns are so freaking easy to use especially when going up against unarmed and unamored civilians at close range that anyperson with two working hands could leave a wake of carnage. I mean for christ sake how hard is it? you point the business end of the gun at what you want to die and pull your finger back! He wasn't using a sniper rifle from 600 yards away making corrections for wind and bullet drop, he was using a shotgun and handguns at damn near point blank range. Any fucking moron could do that. Hell I practiced all the basic motions that the shooter used when I was five, with my super-soaker. I've not seen outcry about "the watergun-trained massacre". seriously, you learn more shooting skills (how to steady your hands, how to account for the arcing of your "projectile") from waterguns than you do from a million hours of counterstrike. seriously jack. if video games turned everyone into murderers, there'd be nobody left alive in America

[...] Apparently, “Still Alive” is a song that comes during the end of the puzzle videogame Portal, which was released Oct 9, 2007 for Xbox and Windows, and Dec 11, 2007 for Playstation.  Jonathan Coulton wrote this song for the game (GLaDOS is the robotic singer) and the lyrics reference things that happened throughout the game, including the promise of receiving cake for the person who finishes the game.  According to what I’ve read, Portal players LOVED this song.  It was happily upbeat and the lyrics were relevant to the game, and the robotic voice singing the song made it even better.  Bottom line: if you haven’t played Portal, you won’t have any idea what the deal is with this song, and certainly you won’t understand why one writer called the announcement of Still Alive’s impending addition to the Rock Band songlist ”face meltingly cool”. I listened to the song.  I could not relate to anyone calling it “face meltingly cool”.  Listen here if you want to decide for yourself.So, what does all this mean? I think it means that Rock Band (and Guitar Hero) has done something that most other games have failed to do.  These games allow players to use plastic guitar shaped or drumset controllers to play and sing their favorite rock songs and they have attracted people to gaming that have never really played games - like myself and my dozens of friends who have become addicted to channeling their inner rock star.  Sure, I played Donkey Kong when I was in middle school for a while, and maybe ten years ago I tried the Sims for a day.  But that’s it.  What I didn’t realize until now is that with this “Still Alive”announcement sparking the sheer number of positive comments about the song being added to Rock Band, the rhythm games have obviously also attracted a large number of hardcore gamers who have been gaming on dozens of other games for a long time.  They casually toss around “Halo”, “WoW’, “Call of Duty” and all sorts of references with each other that don’t mean anything to me but are obviously very popular titles to some of my Rock Band and Guitar Hero playing peers.Is this a good thing?  I think so.  With  Barrack Obama suggesting that video games are a metaphor for underachievement and antigaming attorneys telling us that video games are the cause of the tragic shootings at NIU and Virginia Tech there obviously is a lot of misconception out there about what the gaming experience can be and who gamers are.  I know that I don’t have any plans to go out and do any “campus shootings” today or go live with my mom just because I’ve started a Thursday night jam session with my girls.  [...]

i would recon that some, yet most of you would love to do some justice to this guy. i dont want to insult anyone of you awesome Jack Thonpson haters. but i think i would love to go counter-strike is ass, he is nothing but a old hag who has the pleasure to make games so little in violence, that even if something as harsh as a punch happens in any games, it would result in an instant lawsuit.

and as far as i know, you know NOTHING about any of these games, NOTHING at all... Counter-strike?? seriously man, you are the real killer. those masacras have nothing to do with any shootings, you suck and everyone wanst to stab you till you realise that games are for fun, not for a real life training camp