Jack Thompson Sues Florida Bar (yet again)

Jack Thompson Sues Florida Bar (yet again)

March 5, 2008
Controversial Miami attorney Jack Thompson has filed a new federal lawsuit against the Florida Bar. It's at least his fourth such case since late 2006. To tell you the truth, we've lost count.

None of those earlier actions against the Bar were successful. In fact, GamePolitics readers will likely recall the legal train wreck that was Thompson's most recent case before Judge Adalberto Jordan.

Highlights included Thompson's sending gay porn to the court in a case filing as well as his failed attempts to add GP, the ECA and even Judge Jordan himself as defendants at various points. The longtime Rockstar nemesis also made a rather entertaining pleading to the Court, complaining that he is parodied in the upcoming Grand Theft Auto IV (he's probably right about that).

The new complaint, filed yesterday, doesn't specifically address Thompson's own issues, but claims in a more global fashion that the Bar forces its supposed ideological agenda on Florida attorneys. We'll keep you posted on any new developments, but this one has the look of a non-starter.

Thompson, of course, underwent a 10-day disciplinary trial prosecuted by the Florida Bar in December. Judge Dava Tunis is expected to rule on the fate of Thompson's legal career next month.

You can read Thompson's lawsuit here, but  be forewarned: It's a 74-page monster of a PDF file.

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Does this document have pictures? I can't seem to understand legal documents unless there are pictures.
Look on the bright side, Jack. Take it from Chris Titus. You're not failing, you're just really, really good at finding out what doesn't work.
Continue old Jacko, continue until you suffer disbarment.
It's like he has a quota he needs to maintain, you know?
For heaven's sake just remove this guy's license to practice and publicly brand him a nutter.
I'm sure his arguments are perfectly reasoned and backed up by cited laws and past court decisions.

/no, I couldn't keep a straight face while typing that
Thompson: Vidja Gamez Are Teh Debbulz! Strauss Zelnick Is Teh Beast!

Judge: With all due respect Mr. Thompson, Piss off and die.
"THE FLORIDA BAR IS FORCING THEIR IDEOLOGY ON ME!"

"THEY CAN'T DO THAT, FORCING IDEOLOGY IS MY JOB"

"THE'YRE STEALING MY WORK"

"STEALING IS A CRIME!"

"THE FLORIDA BAR IS CRIMINALS"

ah......seriously though...
I knew something Thompson related would happen today but I thought that something would involve having his ass handed to him.
I know it's a tad evil of me, but I would enjoy the irony if he got disbarred and took a job as a checker at Best Buy. Especially after he got that one person fired. Ah well, at least we know the bar's defense attorneys are probably used to it by now.
....WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? AHRGGG! Damnit Jack Thompson, you God damn spastic mutha f-ckin' desparate little bastard!!! PISS OFF!!! PISS OFF GOD DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!>>>>end rant
I wonder how long it's going to be before we forget about the 'Pictures Attached' escapade..
@jadedcritic

I don't actually remember that employee being identified..
At first I was disappointed I didn't see a story like this earlier on GP, but sure enough, he doesn't fail to disappoint (he just fails in everything else. :P)
Doesn't Jack Thompson ever get tired of losing? I guess not
Sweet Zombie Christ. *reads document* The man's done for.
Jack needs to give up the whole lawyer thing, it simply does not suit him. There are careers much better suited to his form a lunacy; He could host a show on Faux News, be a talk radio host, or just be that homeless guy down town who keeps shouting at the bus shelter in front of the mall.
I wonder how long it is going to take for the Federal Judges to complain about him and send him up for Federal Disciplinary action? The Federal Courts can ban him from filing suits in Federal Court if he abuses the system, ask Fred Phelps.
To paraphrase Yathzee "Sure he files frivolous lawsuits a bunch but no one seems to begrudge him for that anymore, it's just what he does". Seriously, someone does something he doesn't like, he threatens or attempts legal action. It's like a reflex with him. I'd probably be more scared if, say, Rockstar begins work on Manhunt 3 and JT doesn't give them some kind of ultimatum.
Jack was supposed to show cause today, instead he's sueing the Florida Bar. You have to admire his stupidity.
Wasn't today the last day for the "show cause" order, on pain of having his ability to file nonsensical addendums (I forget what they're called) revoked?
You know, Mr. Thompson, you are not a very hard man to parody.
It was today, and the order is that he cannot send in more filings in regards to the case.

He better think of something else quick, time is running out.
"The new complaint, filed yesterday, doesn’t specifically address Thompson’s own issues, but claims in a more global fashion that the Bar forces its own ideological agenda on Florida attorneys."

Uh, you mean the Bar's attempt at having their lawyers act with some form of dignity and/or semblence of normality is an ideological agenda? I did not know that.

Seriously JT, the Bar is giving you a bit of "tough love". They want to take away your right to be a lawyer because its for your own good (and for the sanity of everyone you're around).

In short, stop doing what we're trying to stop you from doing, like filing stupid lawsuits that you're going to lose because you're an idiot.
@Nick: I'd argue that he is in fact remarkably hard to parody. When you think of the parody of an overzealous lawyer, you think of someone that files repetitive lawsuits and countless motions in an effort to use the law as a hammer, to bludgeon anything he dislikes into oblivion. In short, you think of JT. So if an over-the-top caricatured parody of a lawyer IS in fact JT, then what would an over-the-top caricature of JT look like?
@Benji: You ever play any of the Phoenix Wright games for the DS? Plenty of over the top laywers there. Hell, one even uses a whip. I for once, am glad JT isn't THAT over the top. ;)
wait a second, weren't they giving out a verdict today? Did I read it wrong?
So you get the basic gist of what he is going for within the first couple of pages. Basically he is trying to state that the Florida Bar is pushing ideologies outside the narrow scope of the law, and that they are in violation of the first and fourteenth amendment. Based on past cases. So the idea is that he knows the bar is about to boot him, but this is a motion to state the bar is violating laws, so that way he can continue to practice law in Florida without having to be a member of the bar.
So what's happened with the Show Cause? Surely the Supreme Court is going to do something about him not presenting one? Or maybe he did present a Show Cause but didn't issue it to all the usual media outlets as it contained his usual "claim to fight to the bitter end but in fact backed down at the last minute and beg for forgiveness" tactic (just like his last Show Cause).
@valthun:

I think the only 'law' they're violating is the made-up one where JT can do whatever the f*** he wants.
No smoke without fire, no disciplinary without complaints, and, in the legal world, without lots of complaints....

In the world of Thompson, it will always be someone else's fault.
It's fine by me. The more JT pulls these stupid little stunts the worse it gets for him. At first I was willing to bet that he'd only get a slap on the wrist but still keep his license, but with the way he's been going lately I'm more expecting his license to be pulled.
From now on, I think we can forgo any news about Jackie T short of having his liscence revoked. Because you know it's going to crop up at some point.
Sorry, I have to stick up for Jackey boy here. I think he has filed his show cause quite quickly. Today was the deadline but he met in Feb.

He filed his preliminary response on the 21th and then four more suplemental responses on the 26th.

Check out this site for a list of filings related to that case. Most of it appears as a lot of legal mumbo jumbo to me, but it communicates the drift.
http://jweb.flcourts.org/pls/docket/ds_docket?p_caseyear=2007&p_casenumb...
Problem is, Shock and Disbelief, is that it wasn't really a response to his show cause order, it doesn't directly tackle the issues he was asked to show cause on, but merely breaks into a monologue of perceived faults in the Bar. Now, he may be accurate or he may not be, it's a whole other issue to the one of his own behaviour, but filing a reply to a show cause for vexatious attachments, and then attaching another 4 documents to that same response is kind of shooting yourself in the foot.
Actually, Thompson's lawsuit is only 20 pages long. The other 50 or so are two entire Supreme Court decisions.

Let me reiterate:

Rather than just citing two cases, Thompson attached two entire Supreme Court decisions, in full, to his lawsuit.

Hey, maybe that's standard practice but it seems like a cumbersome waste to me.


Andrew Eisen
I guess he just didn't forward it to gamepolitics like every other document he's ever created.

I'm guessing he doesn't want us to see it because he's licking the Supreme Court's ***.
there should still be something from today when they make the decision on if his response is good enough right?
Wait, ignore my last post.

@godrobotus

So the response he sent to gamepolitics (http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/21/florida-supreme-court-comes-down-hard...) was actually filled with the court?

Good lord!
Retire. Please just retire.
Does the new filing come with pictures?

His argument is pretty interesting. Isn't it the entire point of Bar Associations everywhere to do exactly what he's accusing the Florida Bar of doing?
@GoodRobotUs

Are you refering to the document just posted, because thats a whole new document for a new legal case. I wasn't aware his Show Order response(s) have been made avaliable yet? Got a link? If i'm mistaken I apologise.
Wait, ignore my last post.

@GoodrobotUs; so the response he sent to gamepolitics
(http://gamepolitics.com/2008/02/21/florida-supreme-court-comes-down-hard...) was actually filled with the court and Jack considers it his Show Cause?!

Good Lord!
I think GoodRobotUs is talking about the response Jack sent gamepolitics a while ago:

"This court’s panicked threat against Thompson… has wonderfully proven not just that Thompson has no “adequate state remedy” but that he has no state remedy at all. This court threatens Thompson if he even files this pleading.

This is a brazen attempt by this court to repeal the absolute right of every citizen, under the First Amendment, to “petition the government for a redress” of grievances…

The [Florida] Bar threatens a whistleblower with retribution because he dares to keep blowing the whistle? This court has threatened Thompson. He does not threaten back. He hereby informs this court that he will see it in federal court. This court has just thrown Brer Rabbit into the briar patch."


I can't believe he ACTUALLY filled that as his Just Cause.
SSDD
Well to be fair that is the standard posturing we expect from him when he makes public comments but it doesn't neccessarily reflect what he would have written in his response. It may be possible he uses the same rhetoric in those responses but it is premature to critise him for not addressing any points when we haven't seen his legal answer.
@ShockandDisbelief

Matriculated is right, I'm talking about Thompsons' initial response to the show cause and his filings afterwards. Yup, this case is a brand new one, though, I have to wonder at the timing of it, does a ruling regarding vexatious filing apply only to the case it is specifically dealing with, or is it a general application to all ongoing cases? Can't help thinking this is just a way of side-stepping the possibility of being barred from making additions to his complaint by 'starting a new pile', as it were.
why can't he just disappear
Sorry, meant to add, the text cited by Matriculated was actually taken from that response, it wasn't part of a Press Release, it was part of a Legal Document submitted by Mr Thompson, which he forwarded to the Press, as I understand it.
I wonder why the Supreme Court hasn't responded.

When Jack submitted the gay porn and was asked for a Show Cause, he filled a similar vitrolic response. A day after he filled it, the Florida Bar forced him in front of the ad hoc comittee
He is upset the bar is imposing its ideology on him?

Jack Thompson is the one imposing HIS IDEOLOGY ON US!
Thanks for cleaning that up :)
You can just about set your watch by his filings. I wonder if he is just bored or lonely. Maybe he feels that he can comunicate to the world with legal filings, it's his way of saying, "I exist! Don't overlook me!"

If his current filing has any merit, then why have no other Florida Lawyers made any mention of the bar being ideological? It isn't exactly a word that one associates with lawyers.

Maybe he is talking about this whole "professionalism" thing? That or sanity.
I think this series has been going downhill since last season. This new one is still funny but its getting repetitive, I think they need to add a new character to spice it up, what do you guys think of giving him a crimefighting monkey ninja as a sidekick?
OK folks, now raise your hand if you actually read the whole PDF file!

And to those who did, does JT have a snowball's chance in hell?
Looks like Jack's going to have a lot of time to become acquainted with his new best friend now that his career in law is now grinding to a halt:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straitjacket

I've got a picture book of my own that I would like to share, can anyone tell me the best way to share this treasure with the rest of the world? It's about 2.8MB Word Document.
I didn't read the whole thing (it didn't have any pictures so I was unable to comprehend it) but it seems that Jack just complaining the rules are too strict and are infringing his First and Fourteenth Ammendment rights.

What Jack doesn't seem to realise is that he AGREED to follow these rules when he became a lawyer; whether they're too strict or not is irrelevent.
I suppose part of the thing that he doesn't seem to understand is that this isn't, and never has been about what he thinks, it's always been about what he does. Never once has the Bar told him he isn't allowed to pursue what he feels to be right, they've simply told him to temper the methods he uses to do so, as was said earlier in the thread, had he simply toned down his behaviour a bit, and stopped trying to leap onto a soap-box to attack anyone who dared to disagree with his point of view, he wouldn't be in this situation, and would probably still have the respect of several individuals who would now no longer go near the man.

Jack actually did have influence in some quite major circles for a time, but he threw it all away by not learning how to behave like an adult.

It's kind of ironic that someone who claims that games pollute youth still hasn't grown out of calling people 'Retards' when annoyed at them....
One thing that I should point out; doesn't Thompson need the support of another attorney to file a lawsuit now? I thought that his legal powers were diminished to his habit of filing like there's no tomorrow.
Jack had until today to give the Supreme Court a reason not to. It wouldn't surpise me if the SC start proceeding towards that tomorrow.
Who else but Jacko?

Funny how these forums people will used to get angry and hate Wacko Jacko it's all light hearted and now Wacko is the butt of our jokes here.

Jack Thompson is a living breathing lawyer parody.
He spent $350 to file that 20 some page ramble of a court filing, with the rest of the 74 pages either court paperwork, or info about other court cases.
I can't believe this is coming out of my mouth. Before I get flamed to a cinder I would like to state that what I am stating is limited to the bar and only the bar and I do not agree for a second anything he says about video games. That being said, I agree with Jacko here about what he says about the bar. I'm going to be an attorney of the Florida bar and if even 1/10 of what he said is true (Which most likely is all that is going to be true), then there seriously is a issue here that must be discussed. I rather that someone else would discuss it to the federal court. At least that lawyer will not have his credibility under a microscope. But if the Florida Bar is spending forced dues of compulsatory members in ideological then that is just as bad as what Jacko is doing to our freedom of speech with video games.
So, again, before I get burnt to a crisp. I ::shudder:: agree with Thompson. If the Bar is acting this way, then it must be stopped... just like him. Now excuse me while I go put on my flame resist armor.
@Andrew Eisen:

How many of those pages are dedicated to his new line of toilet pape--er I mean his book?

@Oz:

Well seeing as he's about as powerful as the village idiot (any wonder FAUX NOISE is the only outlet he has left) he's nothing more than a sad, sorry, pathetic punchline, and to quote David "10th doctor" Tennant, "A footnote to a footnote!" :P
Heh, don't worry Allitur, most of us here are not saying Thompson should not be denied to right to raise his grievances, as you yourself say, he may even have a valid point, and if so, something needs to be done, but the problem here is he is NOT raising those grievances because he is a concerned member of the Bar looking out for the rights of the lawyers within it, he's already looking to try and sue several lawyers of the Bar for various reasons.

This is entirely self-motivated, and it is, as you yourself noted, nothing to do with the disciplinary action being held against him or his method of stating his beliefs. Is the Fla Bar broken? Possibly, I suspect ALL Bars have their issues, is Jack Thompson doing this out of anything other than a need to lash out at everyone who dares to not see him as some kind of Second Coming? Most certainly, Yes.

Thompson is not the one to bring these issues to light, not now, it needs a lawyer who is both more competent and not facing disbarment or other sanctions against him. If he'd done it of his own volition, before the Bar complaint had ever been raised, before he was fighting to save his own career, then maybe I would consider it a worthwhile cause, but now, regardless of motive, it looks like nothing more than a distraction technique.
Wasn't today the day Jack was supposed to show cause for his picture-book filing? Is this some kind of stalling tactic?
You can read Thompson’s lawsuit here, but be forewarned: It’s a 74-page monster of a PDF file.
What is with the page number warning? This is Jack we are talking about, he spews out several lengthy press releases as soon as a gun shot rings out...

But what I really want to know is, does it include pictures?

@ Timmay!
Did his long winded PDF really say that cost him $350? If so I say they need to increase that amount, whoever has to spend their time reading his "free speech" "documents" need some good compensation for being forced to read it.
Isn't this the point at which said lunatic is supposed to be found dead in his apartment, wearing bondage gear, among a mountain of gay porn and with an anal intruder lodged in his rectum?
@ getwellgamers
Is this some kind of stalling tactic?
No, generating and filing several pages of rambling nonsense that takes the court's time to go through can't possibly be a stalling tactic... A confident and ethical lawyer surly wouldn't do something like that.

Bah, remembering his letter to Jeb Bush, maybe he should send all the *.doc & *.pdf files he has and attach an updated copy of his book while he is at it.
I got up to page 3 and determined Jack is about to get destroyed in federal court again. Basically, for those who don't wish to read it, he's saying that because the Bar is picking on him, that the Bar is thereby supporting gay rights, distribution of porn to minors and various other things that Jack opposes. He also says that they're not allowed to collect membership fees (which he's strangely had no problem paying since 1977). Thus, he's saying his First Amendment rights are being discriminated against.

Again, the federal court is not going to get involved with this because the action of the State Bar is still ongoing. This will get denied on the same grounds as his previous suit.
I'd like to think that the Bar likes to keep Jack Thompson around as a joke, in order to motivate aspiring lawyers through a negative example.
Isn't it creepy how he talks in the third person sometimes? Or how he sometimes calls people sweetie or darling like a creepy old pedophile?
Doesn't Jack need to show cause tomorrow under penalty of being squashed by the judge's gavel? The timing of this is deliciously tragic.
This is so ridculously bad that I can't look away. XD
Expect a ruling next month you say? FANTASTIC! I'll be back in the US for the entire month of April! PARTY AT MY PLACE WHEN HE'S DISBARRED!
Yes, they're forcing their ideologies onto lawyers by refusing to allow discrimination based on sexual orientation. HOW DARE THEY? SUE SUE SUE!!!
Wow, JT is taking out the Bar and EA with one combo it seems.
@anon

Well, I mean, yeah, obviously it's a stalling tactic- my question was more along the lines of "Can it actually work in delaying his requirement to show cause?" (Which, incidentally, it appears he hasn't, unless Dennis is holding out on us...)


BTW, Anon, love the work you're doing with Scientology. Good luck on the 15th! ;)

(www.enturbulation.org if anyone's curious...)
(not going to read any of that pdf file this early in the morning)

So Wacky Jacky thinks the Florida Bar is biased against Florida attorneys and only disciplines them?

It might just be me, but last i checked, ITS THEIR JOB TO CHECK ON THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES.
Poor old Jack. I think I've finally figured out what his problem is. Pride.

I don't think I've ever seen a person so capable of detaching themselves from reality and refusing to see reason, all caused by their pride. I think that most sane people by this stage would have owned up and taken responsibility for their wrong-doings, but not Jack. He would rather make himself look completely ridiculous and risk further sanctions rather than admit he was wrong.

If he had gone about his business according to the rules of his profession and it's governing body, none of this would have happened. The problem started when he lost his court cases and his arguments were found to be without merit. This dented his pride, which seems to have had a massive psychological effect on the man.

Having been proven wrong, his pride caused him to cross the lines of professional conduct and good taste, because there was NO WAY that he could be wrong! There was NO WAY that his opinion and beliefs should be disregarded! Thereafter, his pride caused him to become bitter, full of hatred and anger as he insulted his opponents, hurled baseless accusations at those who disagreed with him, and threatened fruitless legal action on pretty much every single party that he saw as enemies. His pride pushed him even further then to delusion as he saw the rejecting of his beliefs as a vast conspiracy, a co-ordinated effort by every party that disagreed with him.

It's terrifying that pride can do such a thing to a man, especially one who claims to be a simple, HUMBLE christian. Can anyone remind what it is that pride goeth before?...
@ Shoehorn O'Plenty

A fall.

Besides that, isn't pride one of the seven deadly sins?
@ BearDogg

Swiped the words right from my keyboard.
@Shoehorn -- there's a better term for it in this case. "Narcissism."
JT appears to not use spell check. There's a blatant error on pages 17 and 18. Hint, it's in all caps.

He likes his smilies and metaphors though. I think every paragraph has at
least 3.

"The Bar tail is wagging the Supreme Court dog, and leading that dog, by a leash, is an ideological fever swap that very few among the Bar's rank and file inhibit"
Yep, Jack's writing skills haven't increased since his ego masturbation... I mean his book. Did he skip most of his high school english courses or something? I mean really, I'd gotten a D- if I turned in reports that were as badly written as half of his stuff.
I get knocked down!

But I get up again!

You're never gonna get me down!

Ah, but still. You've got to give him some credit for perseverance.
He is so determined to not have to prove the validity of his actions. If he was so sure he was doing the correct thing he wouldn't be too damned scared of proving it.
J@C|
Are educational records public record in america? I'd be interested to see what marks jack got in his law degree. As weird as it sounds, I'd not be surprised if he was top of his class. If he was an overachiever in a difficult situation like that, it could easily lead to a delusion of infallibility and whenever he loses a case, it drives him a little more over the edge. Of course by now he's working up a powerful pendulum action whilst hanging by his toes from the longest piece of rope ever weaved...
Page 1 declearations under Parties:
"Thompson is [...] a lawyer in continuous good standing with The Bar since 1977."

Well that's wrong right there isn't it? Do I need to continue beyond this point, because that's the ultimate mis-representation.

Well I will anyway...

Thompson has an observable habit of using a slanted editorial style in his writing that renders his derision extremely palpable. This vitriolic rendition method also begins on the first page under the VENUE section:

"One of the more celebrated and notorious abuses by The Bar that give rise to this cause of action is occurring in Broward County, Florida."

One has to ask - why is the implied fanfare added?
One has to ask - "celebrated" by whom?
One has to ask - "notorious" to whom?

Is he talking about US? The online community? His "fan-base"?
Would anyone seriously care what happened to him if he hadn't been such a persistent nuisance?

I see it as a pattern of behavior that is self-aggrandizing and constantly self-publicizing. Clearly this is a very insecure man who continuously attempts to leverage his infamy for profit.

As much fun as it is to lampoon this man (as he indeed invites it) - a loose cannon practicing law is a dangerous thing. He has convinced many poor family members who survive the victems of horrible crimes that video games or rap music are to blame for the death of their loved ones. Recently even the Prime Minister of England couldn't console the mother of a lost child because her reasoning had been poisoned by the vitriolic rhetoric of an openly racist religious zealot and in her grief and denial could not open her eyes to the actual facts. It is truly horrible.

I don't believe that he ever had the interests of his clients at heart but instead sought out and cherry-picked their cases in order to further his open personal crusade that he has dubbed a "Culture War". I find anyone who declares open war on the Culture of Society as it stands to be a justifiable target for suppression. I am glad that the Florida Bar is now distancing themselves from him in a way similar to that of the rest of his associates. One by one he has been abandoned by them because of the wanton political dammage left in his wake. One by one he has turned on them and attacked them for not blindly following his lead and ultimately has accused each and every one of them of being guilty of whatever it was they were originally working together to fight against.

This "With Us or Against Us" approach has in effect alientated every political ally he ever had. One would assume that his anti-Islamic statements also led to The Fall.

He seems to have no problem whatsoever in deriding segments of the population based on labels like 'Homosexual' or 'Muslim'. IMHO openly and repeatedly making statements that effect should itself be a basis for dis-barment since you demonstrate that you cannot equally apply the law to all American citizens. It is an ouvert admission of guilt and IMHO he should account for it.

I find it interesting that his most recent filing against the Florida Bar takes issue with and the form of "Culture War" topics. In the same "with us or against us" attitude he has accused the Florida Bar association of promoting everything that he disagrees with because they have issues with his conduct.

I see this action as the last action of a desperate man who wants to have his words heard at whatever cost - even that of his own legal career - so that these Issues that are so dear to him will be the basis for his Martyrdom. Alas, there will be none left to mourn him as everyone has already been alienated or distanced themselves from him.
Well, I'm not defending Thompson, but I don't have a problem with him breaking the Florida Bar's balls. The Bar seems to consider itself above the law--in many ways it is--and it needs to be challenged on a more regular basis as far as I'm concerned.

The Florida Bar is virtually unchecked in its conduct and it shows. For that reason alone I say, "Give 'em hell, Jack."
Re: Jack Thompson Sues Florida Bar (yet again)

I think he's right on the mark.  The Florida Bar protects corrupt attorneys rather than protecting the public from illegal and fraudulent practices of corrupt attorneys.  Everyone who believes in justice should stand up and applaud Thompson.  But I'm sure they'll take away his license and thus silence him.

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