Jack Thompson: Florida Bar Will Look Like Bombed-out Building (figuratively speaking)
Jack Thompson: Florida Bar Will Look Like Bombed-out Building (figuratively speaking)
March 7, 2008
As GamePolitics readers know, controversial Miami attorney Jack Thompson has been involved in a protracted legal struggle with the Florida Bar and the Florida Supreme Court.
The Bar, which placed Thompson on trial for allegations of professional misconduct in December, is pursuing discipline which could ultimately see Thompson stripped of his license to practice law.
The Florida Supreme Court, meanwhile, has grown weary of Thompson's many filings, which it terms abusive of the legal process. Based on a recent show cause order, it seems likely that the Supreme Court will soon refuse to accept anything submitted by Thompson. The Florida Supremes also have a hand in Thompson's troubles with the Bar. The Supreme Court, for example, appointed the referee, Judge Dava Tunis, who presided over Thompson's Bar trial and will soon issue a ruling on her findings.
That's the backstory. Late Tuesday afternoon, Thompson sent GamePolitics an e-mail which contained a new filing with the Florida Supreme Court. The document (MS Word) was CC:'d to numerous attorneys, Florida Bar officials, and even state prosecutors. For the most part, it was standard-issue Thompson bluster, but we took note of the final sentence:
The picture is that of a devastated building, possibly from World War II. Given Thompson's contentious history with the Bar, we found the sentiment expressed by the picture somewhat questionable, so we asked Thompson about it in a series of e-mails:
GP: ...if some kid sent you that picture and said that’s how your house would look, figuratively, of course, I gotta think you’d say it was a threat, no?
JT: You know what the word "figuratively" means, right? Also, the notice was sent to the court sans the image. that was to gig the bar governors getting it. you have to have fun at times.
GP: Do you remember those kids a few years back who made that cartoonish instant message icon that had a big rock rolling over a little stick figure of you and you called the NYPD because you said it was threat? Weren’t they just having fun? What’s the difference?
JT: Dennis, I know you are challenged by life and by reasoning, but the pleading says "figuratively." Check yourself into a mental health facility.
GP: So, do you really think that instant message icon [back in 2005] was really a threat? Do you think anyone will consider [your e-mail] relating the FL Bar office to a picture of a bombed-out building [a] threat?
JT: Uh, Dennis, I really think you have lost your mind. I'm not posting threats anonymously. If I had intended these people harm, I would have done that quite sometime ago. The notice to the court was sans the picture. Get a grip, Dennis. You're so intent on destroying me that you have lost it. You understand what "figuratively" means, or don't you? Stop bothering me.
GP: What do you suppose would happen to a high school student who sent that pic to his school with the “figurative” comment that this is what the school would look like if he didn’t get his way?
JT: You're boring, Dennis
GP: That’s not an answer to the question.
UPDATE: Some readers have informed us that the picture is of Hiroshima's Peace Memorial Dome.
UPDATE 2: Some of Thompson's other legal theatrics are getting some crossover mainstream attention at Slate...
UPDATE 3: Someone apparently e-mailed Thompson with some rather disgusting "figurative" comments. That kind of thing, frankly, does nothing to help the image of gamers. But, in any event, Thompson and I had this exchange concerning the "figurative" e-mail he received :
UPDATE 4: 1PM, Sunday... another e-mail from Thompson:
The Bar, which placed Thompson on trial for allegations of professional misconduct in December, is pursuing discipline which could ultimately see Thompson stripped of his license to practice law.
The Florida Supreme Court, meanwhile, has grown weary of Thompson's many filings, which it terms abusive of the legal process. Based on a recent show cause order, it seems likely that the Supreme Court will soon refuse to accept anything submitted by Thompson. The Florida Supremes also have a hand in Thompson's troubles with the Bar. The Supreme Court, for example, appointed the referee, Judge Dava Tunis, who presided over Thompson's Bar trial and will soon issue a ruling on her findings.
That's the backstory. Late Tuesday afternoon, Thompson sent GamePolitics an e-mail which contained a new filing with the Florida Supreme Court. The document (MS Word) was CC:'d to numerous attorneys, Florida Bar officials, and even state prosecutors. For the most part, it was standard-issue Thompson bluster, but we took note of the final sentence:
Below is what The Florida Bar will look like if [the Florida Supreme] court acts affirmatively on its show cause order, figuratively speaking, of course:
The picture is that of a devastated building, possibly from World War II. Given Thompson's contentious history with the Bar, we found the sentiment expressed by the picture somewhat questionable, so we asked Thompson about it in a series of e-mails:
GP: ...if some kid sent you that picture and said that’s how your house would look, figuratively, of course, I gotta think you’d say it was a threat, no?
JT: You know what the word "figuratively" means, right? Also, the notice was sent to the court sans the image. that was to gig the bar governors getting it. you have to have fun at times.
GP: Do you remember those kids a few years back who made that cartoonish instant message icon that had a big rock rolling over a little stick figure of you and you called the NYPD because you said it was threat? Weren’t they just having fun? What’s the difference?
JT: Dennis, I know you are challenged by life and by reasoning, but the pleading says "figuratively." Check yourself into a mental health facility.
GP: So, do you really think that instant message icon [back in 2005] was really a threat? Do you think anyone will consider [your e-mail] relating the FL Bar office to a picture of a bombed-out building [a] threat?
JT: Uh, Dennis, I really think you have lost your mind. I'm not posting threats anonymously. If I had intended these people harm, I would have done that quite sometime ago. The notice to the court was sans the picture. Get a grip, Dennis. You're so intent on destroying me that you have lost it. You understand what "figuratively" means, or don't you? Stop bothering me.
GP: What do you suppose would happen to a high school student who sent that pic to his school with the “figurative” comment that this is what the school would look like if he didn’t get his way?
JT: You're boring, Dennis
GP: That’s not an answer to the question.
UPDATE: Some readers have informed us that the picture is of Hiroshima's Peace Memorial Dome.
UPDATE 2: Some of Thompson's other legal theatrics are getting some crossover mainstream attention at Slate...
UPDATE 3: Someone apparently e-mailed Thompson with some rather disgusting "figurative" comments. That kind of thing, frankly, does nothing to help the image of gamers. But, in any event, Thompson and I had this exchange concerning the "figurative" e-mail he received :
JT: Dennis, I'm sure you deplore the [nasty e-mail], which you're responsible, for, right?
GP: Actually, I do deplore that. Responsible? No. Everyone is, of course, responsible for their own actions. You know, I’m trying to remember who created that e-mail about the Bar Building looking blown up… and who sent it to me knowing that I publish things… And who answered my several follow-up questions about it…. Wait – it was you!
UPDATE 4: 1PM, Sunday... another e-mail from Thompson:
Wow, that "Jack Thompson threatens to bomb The Florida Bar" has gotten tremendous traction, hasn't it? Apparently you're the only vendetta-obsessed loon who wanted to take it that way. Poor Dennis, captured by your own industry agenda.
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beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
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JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
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JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
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chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
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JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
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JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
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JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:36am
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
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Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:30am
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:44am
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
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But it really shows how low that asshole can sink when he used a picture describing the effects of Nuclear War (take note of the devestation around the building, and keep in mind that building was almost at Ground Zero; 50 meters away)
I really hope Thompson gets nailed for this, this is very disrespectful for those who survived that incident, and disrespecting the monument which serves as a reminder of the devestation of what happens when a populace gets nuked
Let's see the checklist of major game antagonizers...
Uwe Boll - Tax loophole closed up, forced to go back to small movies or no movies at all.
Jack Thompson - Pending termination; scheduled for disbarment at the end of April. (How could he /not/ be disbarred for all of this?)
Fox News - Still active, but that front is where we have the most allies.
We're making progress, people. Take a deep breath and smile. Soon it'll all be over.
Well, it's stuff like this that make me think that Thompson will have a mental break down if disbarred, go on a shooting spree, shoot himself in the leg, then toss the gun to some teenage boy just so he can shout "That gamer did it!!! See he shot me and all these people, videogames make kids murder!!!"
While I admit that I may have a rather vivid imagination, reality is steadily catching up to it.
He's falling down this deep, deep grave he dug when he started this little crusade.
It won't end well at all.
That's probably more of a rhetorical question because I just don't see anyway anybody, sane or no, can find a way to make JT's actions seem like a good idea. I imagine Brittney Spears would look at his antics and even she would quip "That dude is nuts!"
"Parody" and "Sarcasm" are just two such words.
Let's not forget the kid who emailed John Bruce that stupid sarcastic email about asking him for advice on how to obtain weapons for use in his own school attack.
Let's also not forget that Federal Authorities (FBI and Homeland Security for example) don't give a flying fart about attempts to downplay comments made. You can be arrested for even saying "I DON'T have a bomb!" in an airport or getting into an argument with an airline stewardess.
And how about the ever popular investigation into kids who made maps based on their schools for their FPS games?
Stand in the middle of a Federal Courtroom and make that comment with "figuratively speaking" included and see how fast you get arrested.
And let's not forget John Bruce's past conflicts with the Florida Bar and the Federal Supreme Courts. Any reason why Federal Authorities SHOULD outright ignore such claims, even with "figureatively speaking" included?
John Bruce is better than Ghost Hunters. All his past actions are going to end up haunting him, proving the existance of ghosts better than anything else.
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I hear you, opinion from a unbiased shrink is definitely needed!
I seriously would not show up for work if I worked in the Florida Bar as long as he is around and that ispretty much what I told them. Just said I was worried for others saftey.
... but now that I think about it.. I'm a gamer and should have known better!
I don't care about other people! they are just fodder for me to shoot when I go on a shooting spree!
"If I had intended these people harm, I would have done that quite sometime ago."
"You’re boring, Dennis"
Do we even NEED a reason to hate this guy anymore? I mean, come on...
Jack, I’m sure your parents deplore the nasty offspring which they’re responsible for, right?
Also - someone Dugg this story. Give it a Digg if you think it's worthy
You are right, I keep forgetting that.
He sure has the trolling "anything that happens or I do is a win" part down.
Comments by jack in one of the more recent stories on him mentions his phone number (the comment had something to do with a reporter, I can't remember the context exactly), maybe you could phone him and ask if he'd be willing to be interviewed and get his email from him then.
Some people don't even hint that they're gamers and he STILL assumes that they are...
Does GP have a regular forum, or is it all simple responses?
And how does one post a conversation had with Jack Thompson?
I've contacted him (no, I won't give you his email!), and I'm hoping to report the results of my article to GP (with Mr. Thompson's permission, of course).
Thanks, brother. (In Gamer Society VS Jack Thompson, we're all brothers/sisters.
All but the part about the court already being fully aware of Spitzer's conduct (as is 99% of all Americans) and the implications of it to his license to practice.
It'd be kinda like me writing the Florida Bar (and cc'ing the media) to tell them that Jack Thompson's mentally unfit to practice law and should be disbared. That ain't breaking news to them, I think.
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/news/2008/03/12/wants_spitzer_suspend...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_%28attorney%29
Not being mean to anyone in any way. Just thought I'd make this available to the users that frequent GP.
Other than that I just don't know what to say anymore... well except "What's the f***ing holdup, Florida?!"
Oh hey Jack, this is what you're going to look like when the bar's done with you: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/redbaerd/baloney.gif. Don't worry, it's 'figurative.'
A quick google image search for "hiroshima" will garner you a copy of the image as the third hit via this site: http://students.umf.maine.edu/~donoghtp/Images.htm
The building jumped out at me because I just watched an episode of the History's Channel's "Cities of the Underworld" that showed it.
-b00ga
"It's perfectly normal and acceptable for me, but not so for you."
Someone revoke his license already and get him help ASAP. He's delusional and a danger to himself and others.
I'm fairly certain that's a threat, indirectly.
You know how sometimes the people who commit hate crimes against gays do it because they are closet homosexuals themselves? I'm starting to wonder if Thompson knows he's borderline unhinged and he's afraid that video games might push *him* over the edge.
Poor JT. He just doesn't understand irony, or someone.
By the way, that's the Hiroshima Atomic Bomb Dome.
http://www.richard-seaman.com/Travel/Japan/Hiroshima/AtomicDome/index.ht...
Thats right, JT thinks he's going to drop an atom bomb on the Florida Supreme Court and Bar. Yeah... very professional. Not.
He's still allowed to practice law, that's what's wrong.
Can I move the Jack Thompson Doom Clock's hands to 2 minutes 'til?
You're sure? The Architecture looks western to me.
-GP
You played that one perfectly. Such a hypocrite that Jackhole, isn't he?
I know what figuratively means, but it doesn't make any sense in the way he is using it. Now if he had sent a picture of a party, it would make sence, saying that the place would have an aire of festivities, it would be describing the feeling, not the look.
But the way he used it is dangerous. You can't make a threat of bombing the place then say "figuratively speaking" and it's ok. It would be like someone saying "We're coming over to feed you goldfish to your cat, your cat to your dog, then kill your dog and paint your house with it's entrails... figuratively speaking, of course."
The reason that doesn't work is that there isn't anyway to take that figuratively. If he had said, "Below is what The Florida Bar will feel like if [the Florida Supreme] court acts affirmatively on its show cause order, figuratively speaking, of course:" Then it would have been ok. you can figuratively describe the feeling of a place, or the change of feeling. But if you figuratively describe how a place will look, then that indicates a change in the looks of the place, in this case, what he is litteraly saying is that the place will change it's physical appearence to one of devistation. His sentance would still be construed as a threat exactly as he has written it.
He didn't just fail in court, it looks like he failed in English as well.
Answer the gorram question, asshat.
Yeah this statement figurative or not along with that picture can land Jack in more trouble seeing as how it can be considered a terrorist threat. Not saying JT is a terrorist mind you, I am just saying the remark along with the picture is a threat of terrorism.
Yup. Its very famous for being one of the few architectural structures to survive the Hiroshima blast. It still looks similiar, if you check the link posted, since they set it up as sort of a memorial or what not.
Don't mind me though. I'm a big WW2 buff. Either that, or I've been watching the History Channel too much.
They say turn about is fair play.
After all we are all speaking figuratively
and there isnt a threat because according to Jack Thompson
using Figuratively does not imply a threat. so therefore Jack Thompson is not being threatened.
Wow he was just asking a simple question. A good one at that. How is this any different from those kids? Just because you add the word “figuratively” into a thread doesn't make it any less of a threat.
If someone said "I'm going to crash a plane into the white house “figuratively” does this mean that it's not a threat?
Thompson is the one who should be checking into a mental house.
@Jack Thompson:
FYI, Jack, Judge Lenard was spotted entering the last monthly meeting of the National Association of People Out to Get Jack Thompson. You should just cut to the case and sue her, too. And, while your at it, demand her impeachment.
I am betting he is already on Judge Lenard's Bad side. Recused? its comming tomorrow. Tosses Jack out of court? as soon as she finishes reading the motion, gets into the court room and sees Jacks face.
what i nice guy, give him a break
GP: LOL, Scot...
I swear to God this man has no shame. It's like there is nothing except anger flowing inside his minuscule brain.
Listen Jackhole. I KNOW you're reading. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?
"Other than that I just don’t know what to say anymore… well except “What’s the f***ing holdup, Florida?!“"
I ask myself that every time I click a JT article on GP the last two months and discover it's NOT the highly-anticipated "JT Disbarred, Claims Alien Conspiracy" article.
GP: I understand. I just don't want to hand any ammunition to those who might seek to attack the site.
"Jack Thompson" and "sense of decency" don't properly belong together in the same sentence.
Knowing it's real, I have laughed out loud a few times lately while reading GP.
"You're boring, Dennis"... clearly the man just got owned.
You're right Jack, you do it so everyone knows you did it. That is why you are facing a disbarment.
What is it with Thompson and people being anonymous? He needs to realize not everyone likes to be noticed for every insignificant thing they do, unlike him. I'm sure if he looked hard enough he could find the person(s) that made that "threatening" IM icon, making them no longer anonymous.
Thompson is trying to use the whole "figurative" thing as a loophole. Since he explicitly said it was figuratively it isn't a threat, but the IM icon didn't say it so it must be a threat, never mind it never said this was going to happen to Thompson. I'm all for finding loopholes, but once it backfires on you, be prepared to face the consequences, which Thompson obviously isn't.
I'm threatening my liver with a bottle of good Irish whiskey on the day JT gets disbarred.
:D
Yes, we must all get roaringly drunk when said thing finally happens.
Dennis, it is your duty to commision a victory banner. And memorabilia.
Jack Thompson, Dishonest Bullsh!t Artist and I'm Not.
You sir have more patience or thicker skin than I do. I honestly cannot understand why you would interact with anyone who had a snit and tried to sue you.. Where you trying to extract some statement from him that he would just deny later (your hate has blinded you. that is not what I meant... blah blah)
Also the whole sans picture thing. It is freshing to see that even JBT can learn.. after sending gay porn and a picture of a donkey in judges robes anyways. The thing is, what was the picture of if not intended to be attached and a threat. Sorry jackie you can wiggle all you want but the question still remains. Why dig it up and attach it if you did not intend to use it?
Jack to the World: I'LL SUE YOU!!
The World to Jack: And lose in court, like you always do.
@arowe87, Good question.
He always goes totally batshit insane whenever I email him something. Not that I do that very often, but sometimes I just can't resist. I think the last time was well over a year ago. He absolutely loves to threaten me with sending the feds after me for sending him annoying anonymous emails.
There is a law that says that's actually illegal. The law was enacted about two years ago, if I remember correctly. Could be three years ago, too. Who the hell cares. It's never been tested in courts. Nobody has been sued over it.
He always shuts up when I tell him that the law only prohibits ANNOYING anonymous emails and ask him if he is annoyed. I guess he really wasn't annoyed.
A couple things definitely need to happen:
1. Jack and someone else with a brain need to go on CNN, MSNBC, or any of the other news networks for a debate. The following painful hilarity will end up being Jack's "McCarthy Moment", after which no one in the media will listen to him.
2. He needs to be barred from practicing law. Disbarment is a good first step. Preferably, also a ban on filing in other states and Federal court should be enacted as well.
3. Using his filings as evidence, he should be ordered by the court into a state psychiatric facility. There, he can get the help he so obviously needs.
My $.02.
To whomever just acquired his services for a lawsuit against Take-Two, if that person or firm actually exists: Do you want this kind of raving lunatic to be associated to you?
Jack can't stand annominity by those who disagree with him because it denies him the ability to employ his usual bag of dirty tricks against those he considers foes: calling your employer and making trouble for you at work, calling law enforcement and urging your arrest and prosecution, threatenting to sue or actually sueing you on some trumped-up, cockamamie theory, publicly maligning your character, etc., etc., etc. That's why Jack doesn't like it when folks have enough good sense not to identify themselves to him.
http://www.geography-site.co.uk/pages/physical/glaciers/images/titanic.j...
Figuratively speaking that is.
But think about it. Grandiose claims (The Titanic is unsinkable! The Florida Bar/Take-Two/Dennis has made their last mistake!), followed by epic failure.
Which is exactly why I never communicate with the douche with my real name.
I used to hunt down spammers up until a few years ago. Some of them are WAY nastier than Jackhole is, but employ much the same tactics he does. I learned how to protect myself then.
Not that Jackhole would ever actually win a suit against me, but I just don't need the distraction and trouble of defending myself against baseless crap from him or his ilk. And I definitely don't need him calling my employer, even if they laughed at his face (one spammer, from Russia no less, actually called my employer once...it was a lot of fun).
"JT: You know what the word 'figuratively' means, right?"
Dennis knows. I know. The public at large knows.
But does the law know? Does the law draw a distinction based on the word "figuratively?" After all, if I sent you a note saying that I was going to do something which was "figuratively" akin to dropping a nuclear bomb on your house, that single word would not preclude a threat of bodily harm. In fact, based on the imagery accompanying the statement, it would potentially inspire fear for physical safety.
Granted, I wouldn't run for the bomb shelter, but "I'm going to figuratively reduce your place of business to a bombed out building," could mean a lot of things, including a threat of physical violence, and even a death threat. All the "figuratively" would indicate is that you're not going to do "exactly" as you stated, but close enough for hyperbole's sake.
The answer to question has something to do with the Bar not wanting to invoke the kind of response from Jack which they're now seeing. They've know all along that any attempt to rid themselves of the embarrasment to the Bar that Jack's been for many years now was going to be a long and costly uphill battle. So, I suspect that all their cost-benefit analyses, until recently, have turned out the result that it's better to live with the cancer than to surgically excise it (figuratively speaking), the cost of suffering being less than the cost of surgery. But it now appears that the analysis isn't quite shaking out in Jack's favor anymore. Things done finally changed.
This is where he'll be squeezing himself out of, in the fetal position, naked and crying and screaming. Unfortunately, he's so bloated on ego, he might get stuck.
"Figuratively speaking."
I could easily blast him(verbally) for saying what he said and the picture he used to describe what he intends to do, but doing so would be far to easy and be an utter waste of my time, energy, and just about everything else. Heck it is always easier to Verbally attack someone that you don't like which is kinda what everyone here is doing now(not that I am chastising anyone for it). While I will not defend Mr Thompson's actions, I refuse to pick apart his choices in phrasing what he SAYS he will do(even though the picture he used was a bad choice). Everyone should know by now that he is really just talk and that he would never do anything that extreme(which is a good thing for him). He has never taken a swing at someone despite the fact that he essentially says(not literally) that he hates and will destroy anyone who disagrees with him.
Again and again I come to the same crossroad that appears whenever Jack Thompson is involved. I was taught as a child to treat others as you would have them treat you. Whenever I see him say or do something nasty, I try to find something honorable, noble, good, or even slightly decent about him, but I am always coming up short. It saddens me greatly. When the guys at Penny Arcade sent him those flowers in hopes of opening a dialog with him in regards to gaming, I was shocked and disgusted as a person and a Christian to hear his response. I am disheartened(and mildly amused) whenever Mr Thompson adopts that childish demeanor and insults(poorly) the person he is talking too when they are being civil.
Jack Thompson is right that children should not be playing games that are not meant for them, but he is going about the entire matter all wrong, not to mention attacking the wrong people.
So PLEASE, Mr Thompson! Come to your senses and stop this crazy "Crusade" against people that not only have done nothing wrong, but you have no chance of beating mainly because they are not the problem! Doing this may save not only your license, but what is now left of your Name. It is not to late to redeem yourself.
I would love nothing more than to see this man "disappear" while in custody of the FBI and turn up 5 years later in a Serbian prison.
And he's the most recognized name in anti-gaming sentiment. Why am I grateful for Jack Thompson? Because with him in the spotlight, it's like the opposition is being represented by a drunken circus monkey. Gaming has never really been in much danger with Jack at the wheel.
Oh yeh, sorry. Figuratively Speaking. Best Jack Quote EVER.
What I thought: So, Dennis is insane now? How does he reach that conclusion? Jack is seriously flailing now. How does he expect to have any chance now? He is going to end up in a psyche ward, then lets see politicians and the media call him an expert. So long, Jack.
I wonder if losing his license will finally prompt him to leave Planet Jack for a while and face reality?
As much as I think Thompson news is actually kind of fun, in the same way as news of the wierd, this isn't much - it's just him being a hypocrite. Nothing figurative about that.
Who would play Jack? Michael Douglas did a remarkable job in Falling Down of capturing the essence of someone slowing devolving into insanity. Plus, there's a close resemblance. That's my first casting choice.
I sincerely mean this, I'm not joking or spinning this. I'm now hoping he doesn't hurt himself or those he cares about.
Jack Nicholson did a great impression of a lunatic as Joker in Batman. Besides they have the same name (except that Jackhole isn't really Jack, but John Bruce, but whatever).
My vote goes to Jack (N.)!
The only person that can properly fill Jack's role is Gary Busey (he is the only actor out there thats almost as crazy as John Bruce, so it would not be much as a streach).
Nicholson also expertly played lunatics in both The Shining and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. He can to mind first, but I bumped him in favor of Michael Douglas because of the closer resemblance to Jack.
You may have wanted to say "of a stretch." But it's all good. I knew what you meant and ain't got nothing but love for you.
Now THAT'S the proof that Jack is:
- an incompetent lawyer
- a zealot
- a conspiracy theorist
- narcissistic
- egocentric
(the list goes on for an hour)
and most of all...a fool.
The last time I heard a story about a lawyer suing a bar, it didn't end well for the lawyer.
Jack, if you're reading... take a hint:
The animated Gif file wasn't sent to you, and didn't explicitly threaten you... yet you took it as a threat.
The letter with the bombed out picture wasn't sent to the BAR, and says the threat is figurative... yet you don't see the similarities?
The hypocracy!
Figuratively speaking, of course. There, now it's not a threat and no one should be irked by it.
...What?...
Thanks for the compliment.
The main reason I suggested Busey because the way he freaks out reminds me of John Bruce (Before and after this years Oscars [freaking out at Ryan Seacreast and Jennifer Garner, yelling at 10-year old internet blogger], his nonsense rambelings when he was on Cleberity Fit Club).
Its just seeing Jack's hissy fits at the Florida Bar (on Destructoid's video) reminded me of him.
I have to agree with you. It's a shame that his rants and raves have gotten to this point.
You have to wonder what his family is doing about all of this. Are they supporting him? Do they feel that what he is doing is for the greater good? We know that he believes that, but this man seems to have no outside support with any of this.
It's so hard to take him at his word because everything that he tends to say about video games has been disproved. We laugh at him and find his rantings humorous, but something has to be seriously wrong in his head to keep digging this hole he's in deeper and deeper.
If that is so, then his removal of the image from the document he actually sent to the Bar is an admission of his guilt of planning to blow up the florida bar.
Jack Thompson is a sick disgusting scumbag. A pathetic piece of shit. A worthless filth-ridden mound of feces in the shape of a person.
Figuratively, of course.
If that is so, then his removal of the image from the document he actually sent to the Bar is an admission of his guilt of planning to blow up the florida bar.
Jack Thompson is a sick disgusting scumbag. A pathetic piece of shit. A worthless filth-ridden mound of feces in the shape of a person.
Figuratively, of course.
After all, it's not a threat if it says "Figuratively speaking," is it, Jack?
The Atomic Bomb Dome in Hiroshima (instantly recognizable to those, like me, that have been there to visit it) shouldn't be used as a joke. Much less, a "figurative" joke involving destruction of the Florida Bar. And least of all, by Jack Thompson.
This guy is amazingly offensive. GP, has there been any word on what the Florida Bar's comment is on this?
Now someone make the modification of this!
(I am to lazy to do it LOL)
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3082/1422/200/badassbuddy_com-jacktho...
Someone has forced JT to get professional help. The Florida bar ordered him to get psychological testing.
The shrink declared him sane.
Just our luck that he gets a crazy shrink:)
Figuratively speaking.
That same shrink was handpicked by JT himself.
Then guess what, they belongs to same church as well (GASP!)
So it's no wonder he was declared as sane.
And when confronted by his own logic, Jack never gives a direct answer. Only telling Dennis "you're boring" Priceless! :D
I can't say it any other way; what a douchebag. I'll be very disappointed if the bar doesn't yank his license. I really want that spaghetti pizza too.
That's at least the 2nd potential terrorist threat that Thompson's made. I remember him sending a letter to Take-Two on the 5th anniversary of 9/11 where he basically admitted that his attacks on Take-Two were helping the terrorists.
The other side of the hole Jack Thompson has been digging has ended up in Hiroshima? And i was predicting Mongolia, Tibet, or even India
We all joke but Jack could be a serious threat to others. I doubt he'd set up a bomb but there's really know telling how he'll act when he's disbarred. In his mind he's obviously convinced it's simply not going to happen. When it does I can't imagine him taking it lightly.
Yet trying to end people's careers and suing them onto the streets isn't harmful?
And his problem with anonymity, as has been stated, is that he hates it because he can't sue people into the poor house.
Remember when he demanded it be mandatory that anyone responding to him also post full real name, street address, phone number and email? It spoke volumes, basically showing he disregards anyone's safety but his own, so the bar should take this literally and likely will, knowing his unstable Thompson is.
"We must apologize for John B. Thompson. He is an idiot. We have purposely trained him wrong as a joke." - Vanderbilt University Staff
"Anonymous United against JT member No. 1 Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
@ squigs
That same shrink was handpicked by JT himself.
Then guess what, they belongs to same church as well (GASP!)"
Are you fricken kidding me? How about they get an unbiased shrink and run the test again!
I am afraid to go to the courthouse now, Jack I am calling Homeland Security to ask them to send you to guantanamo bay to be questioned, because you have already done far more then most of the people in that place.......
Your goals like the terrorists are to destroy free speech...
and now you threaten to kill, that is it you are threat to the public and should be arrested immediately...
Insulting, and instantly dismissive.
Funny how that works.
TL;DR DA is a troll.
I have, in fact I've been here since the LiveJournal days, and Dennis can personally vouch for that (this is actually an alternate screen name as opposed to the one I usually use).
Although yeah he does treat us like that and yet we treat him the same way and marvel at his stupidity for being instantly dismissive.
Irony.
03/03/2008 PETITION-PROHIBITION FILED AS RESPONDENT'S VERIFIED NONFRIVOLOUS PETITION FOR WRIT OF PROHIBITION, W/ATTACHMENT
03/03/2008 NOTICE FILED AS RESPONDENT'S NOTICE TO COURT, W/ATTACHMENTS
03/03/2008 NOTICE FILED AS RESPONDENT'S NOTICE TO COURT
03/03/2008 NOTICE FILED AS RESPONDENT'S NOTICE TO COURT
03/06/2008 NOTICE FILED AS RESPONDENT'S NOTICE TO COURT
@Jack Thompson:
How about instead of filing four documents in one day with the court, you save all your thoughts until the late afternoon and combine them in one document for filing? You may not have heard, but the Court is beginning to think that your numerous filing are excessive, frivolous, and abusive of the Court's time and resources.
And I'm not sure that simply including the word "nonfrivolous" in your document's title is enough to truly make it so.
He just want to paperwork his way out as usual.
I'm not surprised at Jack's hypocrisy, nor his attempt to ignore the question/points.
Second, good work Dennis! His "it is ok for me, not you" attitude shines yet again...
Third, what we ALL have been saying for so long; Jack Thompson, you are the one that needs mental help. But that isn't going to happen until Jack admits to his destructive behavior, that it is hurting those he cares about, and wants to ACTUALLY fix it.
Forth, you're giving us lots of LOLS, Jack!
@ DA
Nice troll, if you don't consider that we treat other outspoken individuals and politicians with more respect because they don't do the kinds of things Jack says/does.
I sure don't remember State Sen. Leland Yee or Joe Lieberman acting the way Thompson has...
OK PPL, I didn't have any idea where to upload it without being tracked...
So this is awkward way to upload it, but never the less...
I give you....
Figuratively speaking!!!!!! Gif style!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AD7E5CD4
Threat against him, figurative from him.
I'm still trying to figure out how a bouquet of flowers and a letter is harassment though. Perhaps I'm not in tune with my inner egotistical lunatic.
For the first time, I've found Jack Thompson funny. Actually I have before, but reading the emails they're pretty funny.
I don't support him at all, but he seems to at least enjoy failing at life. Got to admire the guy for that.
Which is a strange response, considering that paperworking got him in trouble with the Supremes in the first place. But, to toot my own horn, I did predict that Thompson's response to a charge of filing too much rubbish with the court would be . . . yep, to file more rubbish with the court.
If her were so sure he was sane he wouldn't be afraid of them doing just that, nor would he have gone and hired a shrink he knew would be biased.
Whilst yes, we are instantly dismissive of Jack now, please don't try and pretend that it wasn't a position he bought upon himself.
Don't forget the numerous times he demanded we psot our personal information.
Any response to Jack Thompson other than an instant dismissal calls the intelligence and sanity of the responder into question, as far as I'm concerned. See the EA's recent letter to Thompson for a good example of an appropriate response.
I don't know about you, but I make it a rule not to chitter-chat with folk who I'm certain are raving lunatics. I tried it before and found it to be a waste of my time. Trust me on this.
Remember when he sent them 13 responses (they asked him only one). He just want to delay his disbarment by overflowing them with paperwork. But I got an hunch that it won't work.
Last time I heard about a lawyer trying to sue a bar (that was before I knew about Thompson) it didn't end well for the lawyer.
I've been emailing for a bit.
Lemme share this last bit...
Here's what I sent him:
Here's your problem:
You immediately see gamers as basement dwellers who haven't seen the light
of day in many years. Idiots who crave for their next killing fix. I'm proud
to say I haven't played a game in the past month and I'm also proud that I
still consider myself a gamer. Perhaps if you acted a little more
open-minded and LISTENED to what we have to say, you'd see the light of
something you lost long ago? By that I speak of reason and logic.
What would your God say about such actions? I know you're a supposed
"religious" man, so I want an answer. Would He praise you? I seriously doubt
it. According to your beliefs, your God created man as equal. So what makes
you so much better than us? Absolutely nothing. In the long run, we're all
the exact same thing: human beings. While I agree that killing is indeed
wrong (as most would), gamers do not have this huge problem with society and
want to kill everyone. We want to be treated as equals in a society that is
unforgiving for being different.
If you want to rely on stereotypes to try and prove your nonexistent point,
go ahead. But just know that an entire subculture despises you and I hope
that helps you sleep at night.
P.S.
Smooth move with the bombing picture. The Bar DEFINITELY won't see that as a
threat.
Hahaha, sometimes I crack myself up.
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And his reply?
I have no earthly idea what you are talking about. You have no idea what
alleged stereotypes I adhere to. Sounds like you have swallowed a
stereotype of me by gamers.
How sad.
What the hell?
There is no "Jack Thompson" stereotype.
There is only a "Jack Thompson".
http://fray.slate.com/discuss/members/jackthompson.aspx
http://fray.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/948347.aspx?ArticleID=218596...
"It's fascinating that this reporter was allegedly with ABC News, which featured me on Nightline recently and did a wonderful job in doing so. I guess she forgot her journalistic skills when she left ABC."
Huh, "recent"? Their search engine sucks, and all results I see are fall of 2007 and older...
Agreement with Jack's stated position that minors should not readily and easily have access to M-rated games and that retailers should verify age before making sales has also been repeatedly expressed here. Problem was, as I'm sure you recall, it was also clear from a read between the lines that Jack's real objectives went a little bit beyond that to include "crushing" and "destroying" the video game industry in general and T2 and Strauss Zelnick in particular and, overarchingly, his own self-aggrandisement.
Thanks, LOL, too.
Sounds as if he's pulling a "I know you're there. Pick up. We need to talk. Call me back, then. We need to talk." on the Slate writer -- just like he did on Dennis McCauley. At least they're no man-love issues this time.
As much as we agree with him on things, his "kill a fly with a wrecking ball" approach to the problem si where it all falls apart.
This 'figurative' threat against the Florida Bar (by way of the Supreme Court's actions) is the 16th filing Thompson has made since the Show Cause order was issued 2 weeks ago. Not one of these filings is an actual response to the show cause order (evidence of the necessity to file any of the previous petitions). Mr. Thompson already claims victory against the federal court's claim that he has adequate recourse within the state system when he himself refuses to participate? Umm... no?
As much as we would all like to see JT in handcuffs for this threat (and yes John, it IS a threat. It may not be an actual threat of violence, but it IS an unspecified threat against the Florida Bar), I'm sure the Florida Supreme Court will decide against stooping to JT's level. But you better believe the Florida Bar will use this to impose very tough sanctions against JT, if not disbar him altogether.
Jack's pedals only go forward, never, ever backwards. Which, I think, explains why he so often pedals head-on into hard, immovable objects -- including more than his fair share of brick walls.
If we all just erase him from the media attention, then the only thing that he can do is make a complete failure of himself.
Greetings from Thessaloniki, Greece
Seriously....how sick of a person do you have to be to send a picture of a blown up building to someone, claim it as a threat pretty much, and then deny that its not a threat? If anything at all Jack Thompson proved that you don't have to play violent video games to be a genuine nutcase.
if only that were true.
but people like this DON'T go away, DON'T disappear until something is done about them. Like locking them up.
http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/pennsylvania/pamdce/3:2007cv01677/...
9 Filings withn 1 day. Granted, about half of them were single page submissions, but in a very similar pattern to what you see in the Jack Thompson trial.
This man, known as "John Bruce Thompson" is an insult to the lawyer profession. He does not deserve this job as he is incompetent buffoon.
For a man of his stature, he is extremely immature. I am much, much younger than "Jack" and I can be much more mature than him... When the time is necessary of course. If I was a lawyer of his age, I wouldn't be such a dickhead.
Way to grill him, Dennis.
I just love his response to your question:
"What do you suppose would happen to a high school student who sent that pic to his school with the “figurative” comment that this is what the school would look like if he didn’t get his way?"
Jack obviously knows he cannot provide an answer for this question for his ego will not let him. The only reasonable thing he can say about that is basically admitting he's full of it. It's just amazing how he responds to it. "You're boring me, Dennis". Since he cannot simply answer this question then I'll do it for him.
The school would most likely suspend or even expel the student. Shit, I would be surprised if investigations would begin to see if he had weapons or something. Whatever the punishment is, there is no way in hell a student would get away with that. I'm pretty damn sure Jack knows this. Amirite?
Figuratively or not, Jack pretty much gave out a bloody threat. We all know damn well if we threatened him but added "figuratively" somewhere within, He would flip the fuck out.
All this nonsense reminds me, how sad I find it that a grown man such as himself finds the time to argue with random people over the internet. I've read some of his responses on articles... some sad, sad shit.
Nevertheless, I personally cannot wait for his disbarment. I honestly would love to laugh in his face. Petty and immature? Yeah... Does he deserve it? Hell yes.
Is it just me, or does this little "figurative" statement sounds like a TERRORIST threat. Of all the times he decides to say something offensive, and stupid as this. A time where terrorism is great.
Pure Genius, Jack.
Heh, just kidding. Then again, ten to one, they'll ignore it, and he'll bombard you with e-mails. We don't need that, now do we, Dennis?
However, what he does and the way he does it, it sure sort of disqualifies him as a lawyer in my book. It's simply not professional, but that I have come to expect of him by now. Chances are that it won't be very long, and will be a lawyer ... no more.
Its not locking up that extremists need, well unless they actually do something outwardly criminal which jacks latest effort seems to border on. What is needed is to render them completely irrelevant.
To most of the intelligent and informed community, jack is practically irrelevant but the problem is that the ratio of intelligent+informed to the ignorant or those too trusting of what they see on TV or hear from someone with qualifications (regardless of how dubious) is firmly weighted against the intelligent+informed demographic. That makes him not only relevant at large but potentially dangerous.
Thankfully even tribes in the amazon as yet undiscovered by mainstream society are now hearing about how much of a tool jack is so it won't be too long before he's considered too unreliable even for Faux news.
that was priceless
what a twat
seriously he degredated his own image in that e-mail
AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Youre boring dennis
what a twat
>D
"We all know damn well if we threatened him but added “figuratively” somewhere within, He would flip the fuck out.
Actually, I took the liberty of sending this "figurative" email.
Subject: Figuratively Speaking.
to: *jackthompsonsemail"@"bittorrenthatingISP".net
Don't you say another goddamn word. Up until now, i've been polite. If you say anything else-word one-I will kill myself. And when my tainted spirit finds its destination, I will topple the Master of that dark place.
From my black throne, I will lash together a machine of bone and blood, and fueled by my hatred for you and your idea this fear engine will bore a hole between this world and that one.
When it begins you will hear children screaming-as though from a great distance. A smoking orb of nothing will grow above your bed, and from it will emerge a thousand starving crows. As I slip though the widening maw, you will catch only a glimpse of my radiance before you are incinerated. Then, as tears of bubbling pitch stream down my face, my dark work will begin.
I will open one of my six mouths and sing the song that ends the earth.
Figuratively Speaking, of course.
That, I think, is how the Jack Thompson story will ultimate end. He'll never go away. As long as there's a shred of attention out there to be had, you can count on Jack doing his level best to capture it in the most asinine of ways. That's just how Jack do Jack. He'll never change. What has and is and will change is his relevance. And once he becomes totally irrelevant -- which doesn't seem too far off in the future given the rate at which he's presently self-destructing -- who cares what he says and does? But don't think that ever he'll tire of being a laughing stock, tuck his tail between his legs, and slink off into obscurity, never to heard from again. That ain't gonna happen.
that wasnt a lawyer it was someone filling "pro se" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_se
@everyone
words utterly fail me, words just utterly fail me right now.
the closest thing i can think of is "moby dick"
"Don’t you say another goddamn word. Up until now, i’ve been polite. If you say anything else-word one-I will kill myself. And when my tainted spirit finds its destination, I will topple the Master of that dark place.
From my black throne, I will lash together a machine of bone and blood, and fueled by my hatred for you and your idea this fear engine will bore a hole between this world and that one.
When it begins you will hear children screaming-as though from a great distance. A smoking orb of nothing will grow above your bed, and from it will emerge a thousand starving crows. As I slip though the widening maw, you will catch only a glimpse of my radiance before you are incinerated. Then, as tears of bubbling pitch stream down my face, my dark work will begin.
I will open one of my six mouths and sing the song that ends the earth."
All I can say of this is... "Damn." Honestly, Naught but "damn" can sum up my feelings for this. All I ask, though, is that you spare the righteous.
I always felt that he was, what with the destroying our freedoms (or attempting to, rather poorly if I do say so myself.) and all.
@Uhhkris:
I could've thought of a million better uses of my time than trying to reason with that retard. But I suppose you could try it, if you really needed teh lulz. :P
@JDKJ:
An amazing feat to perform on an exercise bike, to be sure. (then again this is JT we're talking about, so logic takes a back seat this time around. :P)
@Repudiator:
And to think, after his career's over, he'll have even more free time to do so... not that anyone will care or notice, of course... but y'know.
http://fray.slate.com/discuss/forums/2136967/ShowForum.aspx?ArticleID=21...
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How odd that this reporter can't pick up a phone and call me at 305-666-4366.
If she had, she would have learned that in fact the Florida Bar, which is the weirdest state bar ever, has been sued by me in US District Court, case no. 08-20565 for its wholesale violation of the speech rights no just of me but of other attorneys.
See, for example, what The Bar is doing to Broward Attorney Sean Conway at .
He's a liberal; I'm a conservative. The Bar is out to shut down anyone critical of any judge anywhere.
This violates the US Supreme Court ruling in Keller v. State Bar of California.
It's fascinating that this reporter was allegedly with ABC News, which featured me on Nightline recently and did a wonderful job in doing so. I guess she forgot her journalistic skills when she left ABC.
Jack Thompson
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One more thing
The US Supreme Court in Faretta guarantees the right of individuals to represent themselves. The Florida Supreme Court can't even figure THAT out.
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They aren't, if I must be honest.
This made me LOL...It's not GamePolitics are gamers that are destroying you Mr. Thompson, it's your self.
Yeah, it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that you submit gay porn to a court of law or anything.
Jack, darling, this has nothing to do with what your crusade is about, but rather how you are conducting yourself. You have made yourself the laughing stock of the legal community. Have you seen ONE attorney or judge back your antics? Even one?
It can never be said enough times: EVERY SINGLE PERSON involved in the vast conspiracy against Jack Thompson wouldn't have given two shits about him if he hadn't gone out of his way to antagonize them. It's not the hornets' fault you threw rocks at their nest.
*golf clap*
/Jack's really lost it.
I remember the days of GP's Livejournal. Given all of his insane antics since then, I suppose we should be thankful he never joined the police (or, God help us, the military).
"/Jack’s really lost it."
Friend, what was your first clue that he had? Not being mean, just asking.
Thanks, I need constructive criticism for the sake of my night act.
Not at all. Helping is what I do for a side job. Hope your night act goes very far. I might attend if I'm in the neighborhood.
If that happened, I feel the universe would collapse in on itself, and time would become purple.
Uhh... WTF? That's... random. Good point nonetheless.
1) Jack gets disbarred and kills himself from the shock, or goes on a killing (or apparently bombing) spree that ends in his death one way or another.
2) He ends up in jail for attempting the above or for this not-threat threat.
3) He ends up in a sanitarium for attempting the above or for this not-threat threat (and others that may follow as he loses even more of his tenuous grip on reality).
This simply cannot end well for him anymore.
http://gamepolitics.livejournal.com/122526.html
Damn. Jack should have just taken the censure and be done with it. Saying "Oh, YEAH?!" to the entire edifice of the legal system is just insanity.
"Jack should have just taken the censure and be done with it."
True, he should've, but then if he did, he's not JT anymore.
laughing your ass off....
Hurray, professional maturity by Jack Thompson.
seems fair?
By the way, Dennis, if the flow of bullshit from JT somehow increases after he's disbarred, do you think that you'll be posting anymore escapades that he's part of? Or will it just be ignored completely because he's a nobody in the industry from then on?
It's primarily for teh lulz.
I find his answers to ANYTHING up to par with anything Uwe Boll has churned out.
But I'd also like to actually get to know Jack Thompson: Attorney At Law.
If he's anything like Birdman, it'd be awesome.
Except Birdman kicks about 5000000x more ass than Jack can even hope to kick.
Mostly, lulz.
In the most recent news I've heard from that state:
1) Legistators are trying to bring Creationism/Intelligent Design as part of curriculium of students. In addition, state that the Theory of Evolution, is just a theory (in layman's terms, not scientific, i.e. its a 'guess'). About few million have already be spent on this BS.
2) The democrats seem to have screwed up some sort of primary, mostly because some individuals did not learn how to vote from the 2000 and 2004 presidental elections.
3) No hurricanes of major note hit this last season. But I will take an educated guess, they have not learned from the past, when making new homes.
4) Jack Thompson, says he can make threats of destruction and terror, and should not be held accountable. BUT, if anyone threats even a hair on his head, he'll (insert legal function here).
So....maybe the citizens of florida could get 1/4 things correct, and disbar JT, THEN, place him in a court ordered mental hospital for a few years.
I know every time he does something crazy (that is, every time he does anything) we all say how he's lost it this time, but . . . he's lost it this time. He's a lunatic. He's a dangerous man (not in the way he thinks, though), and he's going to physically hurt somebody and soon. I hope the Florida Supreme Court sees this for what it is and takes the appropriate actions.
figuratively speaking, of course.
He's spent very little time, if any, prusuing his recently filed suits against Best Buy or the Omaha P.D. Currently, he's got no active litigation against the gaming industry except for the Alabama shooting case (from which he was disbared and therefore cannot appear before the court -- but, interestingly, still claims to represent the plaintiffs). Instead, the various and numerous litigation he is actively involved in now mostly concern his license to pratice and the Florida Bar/Supreme Court. And I assume once both the Supremes and Judge Tunis issue their sanctions of him, he'll surely triple his efforts to nuke 'em all. His recent filing makes that much clear.
Could this be a sea-change?
Jack,
Did it ever occur to you that making legal threats to members of a court is precisely why you're in such deep shit with the Florida Bar?
Like I said before, the Florida Bar knew that booting Jack (which they've known for quiet some time is exactly what they need to do) was going to be an ugly process because Jack was certain to make it an ugly process -- which is precisely what he's been doing. So, they've sat by and watched him do his thing for the last 15 years, taking no action to protect the public from him, as is their obligation to the public, despite numerous (and, I believe, legitimate and valid) complaints to them about his conduct -- including Dennis McCauley's complaint.
Plus, ever the cynic, I can't help but wonder if having a wife who is a well-regarded partner at a prestigious and influencial Florida law firm and who has herself served on the Bar's Disciplinary Committee wasn't somehow a factor in the Bar's reluctance to take action on Mr. Thompson's professional misconduct.
But, when you finally get judges, both local and -- more significantly -- those of foreign jurisdictions, complaining about the nut-case Florida attorney appearing before them, it's hard to just sit there with the chagrined look on your face, doing absolutely nothing to correct the situation.
they have to 'patiently go “Hmm should we revoke his liceanse?”' unlike what JBT thinks. This is a serious and somber event they have to examin every legal and constitutional aspect of this. That means lots of thought, talking, research, and other work so that when he has his licence revoked or given some other punishment he has no reason to complain (aside from the obvious).
Im looking at it like this the longer it takes the more he screwed, because the longer it takes the more evedence against him piles up.
Jack, I cannot wait until you are a crazy bum on the streets spouting nonsense and gibberish about how video games and "the man" have kept your conservative bible-thumping ass down. In fact and you can take that image literally. Not figuratively, ass. If you have access to the internet then, contact me. I will gladly purchase some bristol board and sharpies so you can walk around downtown Miami as a crazy.
The longer it takes the more noise he makes, giving them more ammo, and the more they can be certain he won't find any loopholes.
I never knew his wife was on the commitee, that would explain a hell of a lot.
Though at some point someone has to go "Ok enough of the s***!"
The man is like that creepy, quiet kid you knew in HS that did something you could never imagine it would be. In fact can someone make a list of things he's done, or link to a list?
Man, that was fun. I´ll always wanted to write to Jack an ironic letter and make him to try to sue me. I live in Mexico, so I don´t know if that is possible :lol:
I didn't do it.
"Wait – it was you!"
This line is not needed. Without it, you have inflicted a Heroic Victory. With it, you have still won, but not as well.
He party brought it on himself with his own twisted logic, but of course the person responsible... IS THE -silly person- WHO SENT THE E-MAIL. Gawd. You'd get more sense out of Gollum.
I mean, I guess I used to do that in primary school, as you get older/more educated I think most people come to realise it's in very bad taste, and just generally quite a lowest common denominator way to disagree/insult people.
Unless he actually thinks you're psychotic, and that's why you can't see sense. But if that's the case the way to raise the issue would be with tact... I mean you really shouldn't mock people for being mentally ill regardless of the situation.
What's next?
"You're just saying that because you're gay!"
Nuh-huh Jack!
Sorry.
correct me if i'm wrong here please, but what string? i know of one legal first, which was later overturned (thus making it somewhat void but i'll give it to him for the sake of argument)
really though, other then the first obscene ruling on an audio recording, what legal firsts did he ever have?
..... seriously, I don't like JT Lawyerman, but in the past I've been loathe to call him insane. He has a very warped view of the Constitution and doesn't understand the difference between causation and correlation in statistics, but he's always done what he's believed to be right. No matter how much I (and every federal judge who's listened to him) may disagree with him, you can't deny he's doing what he thinks is right.
And then he does this, making me recant everything remotely nice I just said about him. "Figuratively speaking," of course, he directly said in a court document that the Florida Bar will look like the picture you see to the left. That's the Hiroshima Peace Memorial, one of the few buildings to survive the atomic bombing and still standing today as a reminder of the worthlessness of war.
His logic? "Figuratively speaking" automatically conveys that his statement was not a threat. This coming from a man who threatened to sue a couple of kids who had violent depictions of him in their AIM accounts. This coming from a man that believes that games like Grand Theft Auto and Postal are murder simulators. This coming from a man that threatened to sue the makers of Mortal Kombat for a fan mod (that is, a modification made by fans to the game's original programing) that included him as a playable character. This coming from a man who's verbally abused various news sources, rushed to the nearest news station to blame every recent school shooting on videogames, and who is routinely in trouble with various state bar associations and supreme courts for his actions in and out of court.
Now, he mentions that the Florida Bar Association should look like a bombed out building if the state supreme court acts on its show and cause order issued against him. By his logic, using the term "figuratively speaking" covers his ass. From his minimalistic understanding of the law, I can see how he could make that mistake. But from a sensible point of view, let me say this. What if a student said he was going to figuratively blow up his school? What if a disgruntled citizen said that he'd kill a major public official, just kidding lol!? What if some right-wing nut job called upon his friends to consider how much better the world would be if someone blew up abortion clinics, but winked immediately afterwards? What if a Klan grand wizard told a bunch of his associates that someone should really hang their problems out to dry, with air quotes?
I'll tell you what would happen. Each of those hypothetical people would more than likely be questioned, detained, and possibly arrested. This is not a matter of free speech, but of public safety. You won't find a bigger advocate of free speech than me, but there are limits to what can be said in society. Public safety trumps freedom of speech, which is why you can't yell fire in a public area or call on your associates to kill somebody without actually giving a direct order.
But, does JT really want to blow up the Florida Bar? Probably not, but common sense and fairness would dictate an investigation by state authorities into this matter. And, at the very least, the state bar association would look at this as an utterly inappropriate statement for an attorney to make. Lawyers have been disbarred before for saying much less than this, and I can honestly say that disbarment and possible prosecution would be the only appropriate courses of action here.
I'm not saying this as a bitter gamer, but as an American citizen. This type of crap has gone on too long. Now that JT's provided the final nail in his legal career, we should demand that Florida use the very tools that he's been so willing to provide. Disbar him already!
That one had me cleaning coffee off the monitor screen.
I think Jack really does believe that he's some sort of Superlawyer with a trail of famous courtroom victories streching a mile long behind him and the mere mention of his name drives fear into the hearts of lesser mortals. That's what psychiatry refers to as "delusions of grandeur." It's also a common symptom of those suffering from Narcisistic Personality Disorder.
Let's see if we get this straight:
Step 1) Jack isn't responsible for sending threats to the SCOFLA because he put "figuratively speaking" in the same sentence.
Step 2) Asshat e-mails Jack with threats using the same sentence.
Step 3) ??
Step 4) Dennis is responsible!
he doesn't understand irony, he doesn't want to understand that he is wrong all the time. let the sleeping dog lie, at least until the Florida bar puts him out of our misery.
This is not a joke, or something along the lines of "thank God", he really needs serious medical help.
However, as he's a coward lacking a single shred of integrity, he'd rather smear anyone who dares speak out against him, and turned what could've been a couple tiny missteps into a massive series of blunders that are now destroying his career.
Everything that's happening to JT now is his own fault. Looking back, I can understand why he's so opposed to the idea of personal responsibility.
Us: This is unbelievable! (Insert crazy thing Jack did here) is going to be the key to his disbarment!
Anybody else seeing a pattern?
Step 3: Profit!
I think we've proven beyond a doubt that the poor man is a raving lunatic.
Figuratively speaking, that is. All purely figurative.
Figuratively.
There, I've thrown so many "figurative"s in there he can't POSSIBLY take it as a threat, right?
Remember Dennis, he only means this FIGURATIVELY! Because it would be absurd for someone to judge a person's mental stability based on his grasp of English language.
Does Jacko get paid by the comma or something?
When it's of this magnitude, and has gone on this long? I don't even know anymore...
He's probably trying to set a precedent for when he goes on his own killing spree.
Figuratively speaking.
Nah, just do what he basically did when his modest proposal was met. make up a reason to not give it to him.
For a person of his age and legal experience, you'd think he'd understand that submitting veiled threats to a state supreme court when you are being sued/prosecuted by the state bar is neither the appropriate time, nor place to "have a little fun."
By the way, even a high school debate club member knows that you will be disqualified if you begin insulting your opponent.
Also, throwing the word "figuratively" into a very threating statement is not a get-out-of-jail-free card, especially when the context makes no sense. "It will figuratively look like this picture"; meaning what? it will be empty? That doesn't make sense. It will be physically damaged? that's still threatening.
Speaking of the image, was it really not in the document he sent? That makes even less sense.
The amount of complaints against him by gamers has gotten so large that he realised he was in trouble, so he decided to destroy his own career first, so he can say "Ha! It wasn't you pixelantes that got me disbarred, it was ME!"
Jack truly is on the verge of crushing his enemies once and for all.
Much as the Deathstar was at Yavin IV...
Wow, Just...wow. I seriously want to E-mail him and give this guy a piece of my mind (In a mature, meaningful manner, of course) But that will just be a waste of time...
*coughs* http://aelon.net/2005/07/jack-thompson-straw-man/
Yeah, I don't know how you guys do that fancy stuff with hyper links (or italics, bold etc.) on GP comments. (10 bucks says I already know and I'm just not thinking)
*sigh* Jack, How can you blame him, eh? You're the one that started this. That nasty e-mail (Which I would love to see...) is all your doing.
it's just regular old html... just be sure to remember and close your tags, otherwise we'll have a dozen italic/bold entries and some trying to fix it.
Thanks for the link. And, wow. I've never seen such a politely written letter to JT that offers useful advice which would have helped him with his goal.
Yet, because the writer is a gamer he wholeheartedly dismisses it. Not really surprising from what we know now, but if anyone else had received it they would have probably achieved their goal.
It really is just plain sad.
http://keepyourkillingclean.blogspot.com/2005/02/jack-thompson-is-douche...
for an even wierder exchange with thompson.. its totally bizaare
im convinced he has mental health issues now. not even trying to make fun or attack, im actually 100% serious.
OMG, was this SounDemon?
Holy crap, dude. Good luck.
WTF is this guy on? Seriously, I think they make Puff's Magic Brownies* look like painkillers. That is, of course, if he's on any at all.
*Reference to "Bob And George" by Dave Anez (http://www.bobandgeorge.com)
Holy crap, dude. Good luck.
WTF is this guy on? Seriously, I think they make Puff’s Magic Brownies* look like painkillers. That is, of course, if he’s on any at all.
*Reference to “Bob And George” by Dave Anez ( http://www.bobandgeorge.com )
EDIT: Fixed the link.