After Booting Controversial Game Art Exhibit, RPI Goes After College Republicans

At Rensselaer Polytechnical Institute in Troy, New York, the fallout continues in the wake of the school’s cancellation of a controversial game art exhibit.

As reported by the Albany Times-Union, the College Republicans, who were instrumental in drawing attention to visiting artist Wafaa Bilal’s Virtual Jihadi exhibit, have had their website shut down. RPI officials said the action was taken because the College Republican site referred to the RPI Arts Department as "a terrorist safehaven."

With an official disciplinary review pending, Dean of Students Mark Smith ordered the website to be shut down, writing that:

[The terrorist safehaven remark is] slanderous, blatantly untrue, and can be construed to endanger the health, safety and welfare of members of the Rensselaer community.

Ken Girardin, co-chairman of the College Republicans, said:

[School officials] were looking at the term from the strictest interpretation. And we were looking at it with the loosest interpretation.

Ironically, the website shut down was the official RPI College Republican page. The terrorist safehaven comment resided on a separate blog not controlled by the school. 

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    DavidPaolo says:


    “All the wars they caused?! Apprently you know NOTHING about history. For what 200 years the Christians waged an unceasing war to “Reclaim teh holy land!””

    Speaking of historical ignorance… Regardless of the excesses of the Crusades (and I’m not justifying those, there’s plenty of blame to go around on both sides of THAT historical nightmare), the fact is that they began as a pretty justified reaction to a hostile religious faith that for several hundred years had made significant conquests throughout Asia and was encroaching on Europe (they had already conquered most of Spain and were pushing hard into Southeast Europe). A large group of Christians pushing back against Islam and saying “no thanks, we’d rather be Christian in our own lands” sounds like a justification for war to me. The later Crusades to redeem the Holy Land began as a result of the Muslim reaction to the earlier Crusades when they began cutting off Christian access to Christian holy sites in the region.

    It’s a lot of bloodshed over a nonexistent God, true, but if you get caught up in “they did it first!” You find that there’s ALWAYS an excuse to go to war. One of Osama bin-Laden’s justification for his war against the West was “The tragedy of al-Andalus” or the Christian Reconquista of Spain by, you, the Spanish. It also puts into perspective the rest of your “We should understand them!” statements. If they’re justified in hating us for what we did to them, why aren’t we justified in hating them for what they did to us? Are we better than them (and isn’t that racist)? Either both of us are morally responsible for our actions or none of us are. To claim that Muslim terrorism is solely a response to Western political misdeeds is a subtle form of bigotry — as if they’re only capable of reacting to what we do and not formulating their own opinions and ideology and acting out of their own sense of morality.

    The other thing I find fascinating is how people looking to “understand” the problems in the Middle East refuse to extend the same courtesy to Islamic fundamentalists they do to Christian fundamentalists in America. No one ever seems to doubt that the actions of Christian fundamentalists are wholly inspired by their belief in God and their God’s message. Yet despite the fact that Islamists have been screaming the religious motivations for their actions at us for years, Western apologists continually justify their murderous hatred as a reaction to politics or poverty (despite the fact that most terrorists are middle-class — bin-Laden was rich, his number 2 was a doctor) or “colonialism” or “imperialism” or whatever “ism” the US is guilty of today. They have said again and again that we are “Dar-al-Harb”, the House of War, they are of Dar-al-Islaam, the House of Peace or Submission. We must convert or die. Why can’t we take them at their word the way we would a Christian zealot?

    And, of course, everything always comes down to Israel. The only racist state in the Middle East where Arabs serve as elected members of the government. I wonder how many Jews there are in the governments of any other country in that region?

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    lumi ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Nightwing:

    “Since the blog was imaged/linked on a page on the college’s servers, and the college web administrator knew this, then maybe they understood better than initially thought.”

    I can pretty much guarantee you they knew exactly what was on the page, links, content, images and all. This is not the first or second time RPI has dealt with this sort of thing (college clubs with “questionable content” available on or through their official pages). See the previous snafu with the RIAA over the Phynd and Celery engines a few years ago.

    They may be a lot of things, but they’re definitely not clueless about tech.

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    F**ked Up says:

    Well I m just thinking that if an RPI had a Link to the KKK, neo-Nazi, or etc, they will more than likely take down the page and tell them to remove the links. After all they do not want to be associated with such groups. If you can justify Un-inviting Bilal then cant they shut down a website that uses their resources for what ever reason?.

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    Rocket Punch says:

    If our soldiers, who paid with their lives so the people in other countires can enjoy the freedom we are having here in USA learn that our very freedom is begin take away by our own government aho’s with a agenda.

    How would they feel??

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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Shady does make a good point. If it were such a technically knowledgeable school, then the college administrators, certainly the web administrators, would have know that the website they ordered taken down and the blog were not one and the same.

    The only thing is that it appears that the website which was taken down was doing more than LINKING to the blog, but showing the actual image of the blog.

    If they had just linked to the blog, I have to wonder if the removal would still have been valid. Of course, since the link ITSELF stated the claim, then having the link on their web page might be sufficient to claim slander and such on the college’s own servers.

    The college, like it or not, does have the Right to allow or disallow any particular material on their servers.

    So, I suppose, Shady is both right and wrong. Since the blog was imaged/linked on a page on the college’s servers, and the college web administrator knew this, then maybe they understood better than initially thought.

    NW2K software

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    lumi ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ shady8x:

    “The college had every right to do what it has done throughout this controversy, but this last one shows that it isn’t much of a technical college…”

    …How do you figure that?

    @ most of the other people in the thread

    There isn’t really a single legitimate reason to dignify gummy with any responses. I think you all realize that, so let’s put it into effect, please.

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    Loque ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Dear Gummy,

    Google “Indo-European.”

    Huh. Turns out most of our European languages (German, Latin, Greek Spanish) share a connection with some Asian languages (sanskrit, hindi, urdu) originated out of a single language family out of..


    Guess we’re all terrorists.

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    “How do they portray the jews?…..hmm? I believe they teach that it’s ok to kill the Jews because there not human, there apes. Thanks for your input though.”

    Oh please, don’t even go the infantile “well they do it too!” route. Grow up. That kind of behavior wouldn’t excuse a 5 year old, why should you get to use it?

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    Ebonheart ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ gummy

    Why does Vincent need psycology and self helpp books, I’m fairly certian he doesn’t need them, when you on the other hand greatly need a history book.

    All the wars they caused?! Apprently you know NOTHING about history. For what 200 years the Christians waged an unceasing war to “Reclaim teh holy land!”

    Granted they proformed a “jihad” But that was mostly after we pissed the arabs off with 50 years of non-stop war. Oh lets not forget modern medican can trace it’s roots back to the middle east around time time of the crusades.ANd yep thats right when the world trade centers attacked EVERY muslim went balistic throwing grand parties! Well except for those that care about human lives.

    And yeah the US NEVER did a thing wrong to the middle east, wellexcept when we back “freedom fighters” to over throw a dictatorship in Iran that wasn’t US friendly. Remember the group that took the US embassy in Beirut? Well Hamas was that US backed terrorist group err “freedom fighter assossation.
    I’m fairly certian though they were fairly upset when the US agreed not to support the formation of Isreal (gentlemens agreement betwee Roosevelt and the Shiek of Saudi Arabia, [might have been Eisenhower who made the agreement])
    They might have been unhappy with us when we stop the Soviets from invading Afganistan, and after large portions of the country destoyed the US pulled out all military and civilian personal who were SUPPOSE to help rebuild after an agreement with those “freedom fighters.”

    Yep the US never royaly screws up. That’s only France, and Germany. (duely note the sarcasim of the last line.)

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    shady8x says:

    This just gets more and more ridiculous…

    The college had every right to do what it has done throughout this controversy, but this last one shows that it isn’t much of a technical college… and that is the main reason to not go there… well that and the censoring city it is in…

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    LoopyChew ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    So, if I’m understanding the screenshot correctly ( ), the incriminating page/blog entry, while being hosted on Blogger, was in fact directly displayed on the CR front page. While technically it’s not being hosted on-site, could you imagine the uproar if the NY Times had a frame linking to the KKK front page on their front page? Trying to exploit a technical loophole, while clever, is also kind of asking for it.

    Also, someone needs to edit a post and close an italics tag.

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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    AH! Ok, ok, I found it.

    Here’s the deal with the “blog” post:

    Note the LINK itself says “terrorist safehaven.

    But it’s not actually IN the article.

    Here is their main page.

    I love the smell of burning Republicans in the morning.

    Figuratively speaking of course.
    Never mind.

    :: Wanders off. ::

    NW2K Software

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    Gift ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Right, is this RPI’s default position? To shut everything they don’t like down? Two wrongs don’t make it right do they? :/


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    Nitherean ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I find it rather amusing the college republicans got their site shut down, after displaying an immature attitude to the situation (in refrence to the comments displayed on their site). As I get the impression, that this exhibit would have been rather indepth, educational, and most of all, facinating display of knowledge. No surprise to see college republicans display their impatience to other view points, and comprise on sensitive issues.

    I believe, all this attention will back fire on the college republicans as more people will become just plain curious at what all the attention is, and look at the exhibit. An may come to see those individuals in dire need of a liberal education (chackle).

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    Grendal says:

    @ Gummy

    Which arabs exactly? You do realize that there not some monlithic hive mind that all shares one view, right? Individuals tend to differ on things even if they come from the same cultural context. That is not to say that some eladers and some groups have called for the destruction of the jews, but it’s rather foolish to say that every Arab everywhere shares that view. Hell one of my college buddies is Iranian and he’s dating a jewish girl currently, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t want to destroy her.

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    Grendal says:


    Hate monger or racist, no profoundly ignortant of historical context, yup. Here’s the problem just saying “the hijackers were all crazies who were horrible people” ignores the fact that alot of middle eastern countries (Iran probably most of all) have legitamite girevance with U.S policy. Does that mean they get to fly planes into building? No that’s stupid, but understanding why some people felt that was worthwhile is useful information.

    Here’s the issue, unless steps are taken to come to terms with the fact that the U.S has a horrible image in a fair part of the Middle east attacks will continue. I’m not excusing the actions of terrorism, but the best way to combat it is to remove the root causes, like poverty, anger at meedling in their affairs, and some of the pointless rhetoric being spouted. We can kill all the terrorists we want, unless we address why people become terrorist as well were all screwed.

    Anybody want to bet Gummy will take what I just said horrifically out of context?

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    gummy says:


    How do they portray the jews?…..hmm? I believe they teach that it’s ok to kill the Jews because there not human, there apes. Thanks for your input though.

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    (paraphrasing) “And thats just one game, he makes it sound like this is a big problem or something.”

    You know, because Arabs aren’t the “generic bad guy” in most media, it’s just that game, right? They aren’t the defacto evildoers now that we don’t have the Russians or Germans to pick on anymore. Nah, Muslims aren’t EVER portrayed in a bad light across, well, pretty much all media. And if they are, it must be THEIR fault, can’t possibly be influenced by US interference through the CIA in Arab countries over the past 50 years (I’m looking at YOU Shah!) Must be because of all the wars Arabs start. The good old west has NEVER sent militaries into the middle east to conquer it or, say “liberate the holy lands”, nope, it was always because they attacked us first!

    Sheesh, the sarcasm is giving me a headache.

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    Aliasalpha says:

    Well mathematics originated in the middle east, many forms of construction, most religions (granted thats not a good thing in my opinion but people like it). There’s quite a lot really.

    Generalisations about any group is a bad thing, doesn’t matter what the grouping element is. It’s why so many people are offended that jack thompson assumes all game players are drug addled idiots or how many people assume that because someone identifies themselves as conservative or liberal that they’re automatically in 100% support of all the viewpoints of said party.

    If you say that all muslims are terrorists then you’re as racist and stupid as all the people who say that black people should still be slaves, all asians are good at math or all white people are inbred retarded redneck hillbilly dicks like you.

    If you say it that is…

    (I’d have put a “figuratively speaking” joke in but I think that’s long past its prime now)

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    Patrick ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Nice to see censorship coming back to bite them in the butt, at least a little bit. May not be right in either case, but I can still take a little joy from the irony.

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    Ian Cooper ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. It’s just a matter of perspective. If a US bomb lands on an Iraqi house, do you really think the families of the victims don’t regard that as a terrorist act? When one of their family then decides to fight the ‘terrorists’ don’t you think that they’ll regard that guy as a hero and a freedom fighter? If you can’t see it from that perspective, well you’re part of the very same problem that Wafaa Bilal was trying to address.

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    Ian Cooper ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Let’s put this in perspective:

    Firstly, the college Republicans lobbied to get the exhibit shut down – i.e. they tried to limit someone else’s freedom of speech. They succeeded. In my view what they did was wrong. The school bowed to pressure, and although they had the right to refuse to show Wafaa Bilal’s exhibit, they had originally given him permission, so what they did, while not technically wrong (the school has no responsibility to show anyone’s art if they don’t want to), was not fair.

    Secondly, as I understand it the school shut down a website owned by… THE SCHOOL! It was a website that the Republicans were using, but it was not ‘their’ website. The school can shut down that website at any time without giving any reason because they own it. It’s not like the school is doing anything wrong here.

    So what was done to Wafaa Bilal was unfair. What was done to the college Republicans is completely fair, as well as being karmic, ironic and a whole lot satisfying.

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    Vinzent says:

    @ Grendel

    “As much as I would like to laugh at the College republicans getting hit with the same thing they did to Bilal, I can’t support this anymore than the removel of the exibit. It was wrong when Bilal has his right to free speech stifled and it’s just as wrong not that it’s happening to the College republicans. “

    On the one hand, yes they too should have the freedom of speech. On the other hand, what they spewed was slander and that is a crime. However, since the slander was not committed on the very same web page that was pulled down, it seems like this was another bad move for RPI.

    How do you know those people you’re killing are terrorists? Did they have a trial? Are they all wearing uniforms that say terrorist? Or do you just have a nose for “ornery folk what needs killin’?”

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    gummy says:


    I have never even seen or played the game quest for saddam. And thats just one game, he makes it sound like this is a big problem or something. Point being he is grasping at straws. I just checked the download stats of the game at

    Only 4,087 downloads. I doubt its much higher any place else. It’s a stupid game and he is using it as an excuse.

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    the games I play are killing terrorists. Not innocent Iraqis. Unless of course he is saying all Iraqis are terrorists? Or does he consider the terrorists to be innocent?

    Specifically, Quest for Saddam (which Night of Bush Hunting is, only with different textures), portrays negative stereotypes. Camel-Cola, shouting Huminumanuma, etc. The general theme seemed to be “Kill Saddam, oh yeah, and arabs look and talk funny!”

    And to note, many Americans still get pissy when it’s US troops being shot at in game, no matter how they are portrayed (just as targets, or as genuine “opponents”)

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    gummy says:

    Thats a link to an article about this as well. Posted in the forum. Heres the part I found interesting.

    “Bilal’s “art game” further modified the latter title, placing the player in the role of a character who must convince an Iraqi civilian (whose image was deliberately designed to look like Bilal himself) to go assassinate the president by blowing themselves up in a suicide bomb attack.”

    Sounds great yea?

    Heres further proof he’s an idiot.

    “He created the game, he says, in order to “hold up a mirror” to an American society which believes that such a game is perfectly fine when it is an American killing Iraqis, but which finds itself outside of its comfort zone when it’s the other way around.”

    I don’t know about you, but the games I play are killing terrorists. Not innocent Iraqis. Unless of course he is saying all Iraqis are terrorists? Or does he consider the terrorists to be innocent?

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    Grendal says:

    As much as I would like to laugh at the College republicans getting hit with the same thing they did to Bilal, I can’t support this anymore than the removel of the exibit. It was wrong when Bilal has his right to free speech stifled and it’s just as wrong not that it’s happening to the College republicans.

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    JimK says:

    Both sides of this debate, and most of the idiots commenting on it, are so stupid it makes me heart hurt for this country.

    We are so effing doomed.

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    Thad says:

    Somebody needs to explain to them that taking down the College Republicans’ site for no good reason does not balance out cancelling the exhibit for no good reason.

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    Ghost Coins ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’ve noticed a fair amount of “two wrongs don’t make a right here”, but there isn’t a second wrong. RPI has legitimate cause to shut down a student organizations website if it is found to be propagating hate speech, or acting in a manner that does not adhere to the students code of conduct for said school. It is standard practice with student organizations to sign agreements that they will uphold the non-discriminatory action policy laid out by the school (hence the reason you do not see college KKK or college neo-nazi organizations). These fine young folk flat out claimed that the art department is a terrorist safe haven, effectively a libel offense since they have no proof outside of an opinion that can very well become a detriment to the school should the notion get out. Since those who are in an organization are, to a reasonable degree, responsible for the actions of those inside their organizations, there needs to be restraint. They won a battle by getting the display moved off their campus, but they overstepped their bounds by effectively saying that their school tolerated terrorism. In a collegiate environment one has to remember that, regardless of what school you are in (engineer, business, arts and letters, etc.) you are still part of University X, and any mark you strike against a school at university X is a strike against the university itself. So, the school reserves the right to squash the organizations website should the conduct of its official be unbecoming or in a manner that is counter-intuitive to the universities policies. Effectively, they can still post all they damn well please on the blog where they did the gloating and slander, but as far as the college is concerned, their conduct ill represents the school, therefore actions were taken. You see ‘two wrongs’ or censorship, I see some arrogant little shits getting what was coming to them based on an agreement I am certain they made as a recognized student organization. Remeber, don’t bite the hand that feeds.

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    Father Time ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    For handing out stupid, unnecessary, wrong-minded punishments for minor infractions I bite my thumb at thee.
    For over-reacting to a very minor situation with the aforementioned draconian punishments (both the republicans and the art exhibit), I wave my fist at thee.
    For going about a serious issue so blindly that you negatively affect innocent people and ignore the real ‘problem’ I cringe at the very sight of you.
    For responding to criticism not through discourse or counter criticism or even explanation but rather heavy handed censorship I spit in your direction and I wish you bad luck.

    You make me sick.

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    F**ked Up says:

    When it happens to someone else, its ok.

    But when it happens to me, its not.

    Double standard?

    I wonder if they are crying Censorship now.

    Hmm terrorist safe heaven hmm I wonder if other people were to blow it out of proportion.

    “RPI is a terrorist safe heaven, there students are promoting propagandist material. Anyone and everyone that is Associated with RPI should be shot. They are un-American. Even there own Young Republicans are calling themselves terrorist. They are funding the terrorist as well. I want them to be shut down. I dont care what their defense is. They are un-American and for that they should be killed.”

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    lumi ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ gummy:

    Read the article. It wasn’t a student, it was an artist from the Institute of Chicago who was invited to show his exhibit (I think that’s the word you were looking for at the end there) at RPI. There was full disclosure; they knew the topic and content of the presentation beforehand, and okayed it.

    Then the CRs found out and raised a stink because it was “un-American” and, accused the art department of being a “terrorist safe haven” for allowing Bilal to present on campus. As a result of this, and letters (including threats to withdraw funding) from other republican alumni, RPI suspended the exhibit indefinitely; essentially, they shut him down and told him to GTFO.

    Now, they’ve shut down the CRs’ website because of it’s connection to another blog that had the “terrorist safe haven” quote posted. Which could be pretty sketchy, depending upon how tenuous the link is between their official page and the blog that had the quote posted. Since their page is down now, it’s hard to verify, unfortunately.

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    doewnskitty ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “[School officials] were looking at the term from the strictest interpretation. And we were looking at it with the loosest interpretation.”

    Sounds more like a case of “It’s okay if we say it but it’s not okay at all if they say it.”

    Oy, narrow-minded thinking.

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    gummy says:

    I am outraged!

    These people where bringing light to a serious issue, that the school is a terrorist safe haven, and that the people there are “republaphobic”. I demand that the whole quote be shown and then it would be considered Poetry. We then should turn it into a mod ware there are terrorists at the school, and you have to stop them. This will bring further light to the issue.

    Ok, really now. I don’t think making a mod about killing the president is on par with this but hey, what do I know? I think it was sort of strange for them to call it what they did. I mean they did stop the mod from being displayed and then the kid was banned from school or something right? Does not seem like to much of a terrorist safe haven.

    But they shutdown the whole site because one guy made a comment on a blog? That seems…stupid. Thats like shutting down the whole art (word escapes me) thing just because of that mod…..

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    HandofCrom ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    That’s the thing the modern neocons do not understand. Freedom applies to everyone, not just the people they agree with. Everyone has freedom of speech, even people who say things that you find disgusting and vile. Everyone has freedom of religion, even those who follow radically different beliefs. If you condone censoring anyone, even those you hate, eventually that precedent can be used to censor you. Giving up any of our liberties is a slippery slope, and any who would give up liberty for security will lose both and deserve neither.

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    F**ked Up says:

    oops should have posted the last comment in the other story.

    What do they say? Turn about is fair game?

    It is funny that I had feeling that if they got a taste of their own medicine they would cry censorship.

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    Monte' ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’m crossed between, “even bigots have rights and RPI should not shut down their website” and “HA, Bigots got a taste of their own medicine”

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    Trails ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I think this just shows that the people running that school are extremely insecure, weren’t hugged enough as children, and can’t take criticism very well.

    While the statement is very different from Mr. Bilal’s exhibit in that one is fiery rhetoric crafted to manipulate people’s fears, and the other is an art piece meant to show the impacts of US foreign policy, the same basic principle applies: Are they tasteful? Maybe not, but do they deserve to be suppressed?

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    Verbinator ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    The chief by-product of the American university system for at least the past 20 years has been politcally correct thought and speech control in the guise of higher education. Opposing opinions are unwelcome and often punished (if the university thinks it can get away with it).

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Hate him? That’s allowed. 😀 Seeking a ban. Nope. Not forking up the $10 to watch his movie? Absolutely. Telling a theatre they can’t show the film because you hate him? Negatory. Calling the local building inspectors in to measure the doors because the theatre didn’t listen? Oooo, now you’re in trouble. :p

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    Weatherlight ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “Ironically, the website shut down was the official RPI College Republican page. The terrorist safehaven comment resided on a separate blog not controlled by the school. “
    Thats the problem I have with the school shutting down their page. It was not made on the school run site, it was done on another site. This to me is a case of the school school stifling their right to free speech by trying to control comments made in a place where the school has no authority. If the comment was made on a school site then I would understand, but it was not so although the name calling was distasteful, the school should not be punishing them for it.

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Agreed. Karma may be a cruel mistress, but it still doesn’t make RPI’s actions in EITHER case right. RPI admin should really be ashamed of themselves right now.

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    Steve ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Despite my own personal opinion of the College Republicans being a club for spoiled little pricks with rich parents, they still don’t deserve to be censored. Two wrongs does not a right make.

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    Gameboy says:

    So now the group that had Bilal’s project removed from campus for terrorist threats has now had its website shut down by the same school for slander and terrorist threats. Or am I misreading the deans comment?

    Karma is a bee-otch. One one hand, I think they deserve a little taste of their own medicine. On the other, they are now having their own Free Speech rights stifled and I can’t let that be.

    So here’s what needs to happen. The College Republicans need to apologize for attacking and preventing Bilal’s exhibit. RPI needs to put the web page back up.

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    lumi ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I wonder if there were any explicit links between the outside blog with the quote and the official club site. Otherwise, citing that comment as the reason for shutting down a cite it isn’t related to IS sketchy, as much as they might deserve it.

    I’d rather they just said, “we find your conduct questionable”, especially if they were directly related to the whole extended Bob Mirch affair.

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    They’re mad because they were expressing themselves, and they got the boot. Yet they felt it perfectly ok to “demand” and “threaten” (financially) the college stop someone else from expressing themselves on campus.


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    Neeneko ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I am split between ‘ha ha taste of their own medicine!’ and ‘what they were doing was wrong thus doing it to them is also bad’

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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “[School officials] were looking at the term from the strictest interpretation. And we were looking at it with the loosest interpretation.”

    So they were… what? Only “Figuratively Speaking”?

    :: chirp chirp chirp ::

    Shut up, I thought it was funny. 😛


    NW2K Software

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    Jabrwock ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “make you regret that a meteor has not hit us yet…”

    From what NASA reports say, it sounds like the universe has been trying, frequently, but it’s aim sucks. 😉

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    pix ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    sometimes when you dont think things can get any more stupid the human race finds another way to make you regret that a meteor has not hit us yet…

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    Griv says:

    This honestly doesn’t surprise me. Since Shirley Ann Jackson came to the campus there have been numerous times where the Administration has thought it more appropriate to use a heavy-handed approach and to abandon discussion with the parties involved.Their are multiple instances of enacting broad-sweeping changes that directly affect the student body without consultation or discussion.

    Understandably they have the ability and the right to shut down a site that is hosted on their servers. We each signed a document explaining our “rights” while using their resources. However, the page involved was one outside of the network and not hosted by RPI itself. There should have been some discourse with the club leaders in my opinion if they found the reference offensive, but shutting down an internal site due to an external one is inappropriate.

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    StealthKnight ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    While I don’t feel any pity for the college republicans, I’m not sure if the college had the right to take the site down. If it is official sponsored by the college then I guess they do have the right. Tricky issue

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    gummy says:

    @Ian Cooper

    How do you think we felt when planes flew into the twin towers? How the hell did you think we felt, when people jumped out of the windows? How do you think we felt, when they where celebrating in the streets passing out candy?

    You sit there, and tell me that I’m part of the problem? That some how I make them feel bad? Because I call them terrorists, I’m “discriminatory” against muslims? That was the point of this mod right?

    Anything, any racism, they did to them self through all the wars they caused. And let me tell you something, I am calling them what they are. Terrorists, Rats, scum of the earth. Name one thing these people have created? name one! All they have ever done is destroyed. And anyone that was killed by our Army, is on them. They attacked us, unless your one of those idiots who thinks otherwise.

    Now feel free to call me a “hate monger” or a “racist” because of what I said.

    Theres your freedom of speech.

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    F**ked Up says:

    They have multiple videos up on the protest.

    I think it is interesting. I wish the journalist doing the interview would hold their feet to the fire.

    There is one question that I would ask each one of them “Is alright to have a game depicting the assassinating Saddam?”

    I want the journalist to ask question on the facts of the matter before they get to the opinions. Make sure the people know what they are talking about before asking their opinion. By just asking for their opinion there is no basis to how they drew their conclusion besides on speculation that they just heard about it and didnt like it.

    It is apparent from the interview that people know nothing about the art besides the selective reports. There is showing their ignorants.

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