He has had those stocks for a long time guys... kinda to be able to sit on the meetings....

silly boy...

@JackDon'tKnowJack

And if he doesn't attend he'll claim he requested and was denied the information.

And with how well versed he is in law, I doubt he'll know he's entitled to this by law.

Recommended response:

"Due to requests by EA personnel that you not be involved in EA takeover bids (see: http://gamepolitics.com/2008/03/05/ea-wants-no-help-from-jack-thompson-i... ) and implied legal threats against this company (see: http://gamepolitics.com/2008/03/06/jack-thompson-fires-back-at-ea-claims... ), we at Take Two formally deny your request to participate in the stockholders meeting.

We also further request all future correspondence to be made through Take Two attornies due to the aforementioned legal actions you have proposed."

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software

According to Oren Wunderman's evaluation, his family and friends interviewed as part of the evaluative process don't see a thing wrong with his mental state or the way he goes about his "crusades."

But, then again, Wunderman did conclude that Jack's mentally fit to practice law, so we all know what that report's worth.

@TJLK:

That's not his message. That's the pretext behind which Jack furthers his true agenda: his own self-aggrandizement. If you know don't that, with all due respect, you don't know Jack.

*Head asplodes*

WTF? He has STOCK in them? Can they buy it back? =)

He just wants to take attention away from something that doesn't involve him. This is also where he will try to take credit for the hostile takeover- he will claim to have orchestrated the entire thing.

I bet he only owns like 10 $ worth of shares.

*Looks at Title*

OH CHRIST! It's Fat Bastard! I love Goldmember..

I'll put odds that he doesn't own enough stock to even warrant an invite to a shareholder's meeting.

You don't have to have an "invitation". You show up at the door of the meeting with proof you own any stock at all and you're let in. See here for the instructions for last year's meeting. If it's a general shareholder's meeting, he would be notified via the address of record on his stock certificates (or via his broker if he runs it that way). Instructions for how to end up on the agenda would also be included.

Does he think he just fell through the cracks, or is he not eligible to be there under some bylaw and is trying to get around it? Or is this just publicity nonsense?

The Guess Who are going to the T2 shareholder meeting? Sweet. I want tickets. :P

@Momgamer

Considering he's suing the company, there might be some obscure "you're not allowed in while the case is still in court" rule. ;)

But yeah, blithering that he "needs" an invite, when as a shareholder he's entitled to attend anyway?

Wait, what happened last year? Wasn't he going to attend then? Did they block him, or did he just chicken out and not show up?

@Jabrwock

He got too pissy last year to be allowed in. Oddly, he didn't bother to show up anyway.

To the surprise of absolutely no one.....

Jack probably owns a single share.

I don't know if he's coming with his bullhorn, but I bet he's coming with some bullshit.

I think it will depend. If he's talked to them before, they probably won't let him talk again. If he hasn't then it's a 50/50 chance (dependig on if they are familiar with him).

Personally, I have a thing about letting someone talk at a shareholders meeting who has been quoted as saying he "will destroy" the company. See, destroying a company often has a detrimental effect on stock prices.

I expect they will thank him but politely decline seeing as the agenda is already full with majority stock holders. $10 doesn't get you a life time forum at a stock holders meeting.

Then again, my only experience with a stock holders meeting is that one episode of Futurama... you know the one, right?

I hate T2. I will not rest until I have toppled them and will dancing on their ashes. I am sworn to the other-throw of T2. T2 is a bane on the public and society. God is going to smite them (JBT claimed this but as always God seems to be busy elsewhere)

Oh, may I buy some T2 Stock please?

I fool is said to be born every minute in JBTs case it seems to have been 2.

[...] Link [...]

I know it's an academic point because Jack's essentially dishonorable and had no intention of abiding by the terms when he signed it, but his settlement agreement with T2 doesn't leave him much room to publicly criticize T2's products or their marketing of those products -- shareholder or not.

And, if you ask me, T2 deserves whatever they get from him. He's breached it before any number of times and they didn't drag him back to court like they should have. Now he's feeling emboldend. Serves them right. Bunch o' wussies.

He'll just sit in the corner and call everyone stupid.

(Sigh) Dennis, don't give Jack ideas, please?

Prediction:

He won't get the attention/importance he is looking for (if any) and will rant and rave (and sue) about having his rights violated. This from a man who has been trying to violate the rights of everyone else.

For once, he does something without involving a lawsuit or a campus shooting.

I'm ALMOST impressed.

@ChrowX

Except in this case:

"I own one share of Take-kajigger and I demand we sell"

Publicity stunt.

Just like last year.

Jack's antics age poorly.

@Parallax Abstraction

He'll just pull ignorance and say he was denied information

@GryphonOsiris

I think they've wanted to, but they're all afraid he is just gonna turn around and sue them all for libel or something.

@GryphonOsiris:

I've asked that question a million times. And it wouldn't even require a intervention to cure his addiction. Just permanently take away his laptop and cancel the Internet subscription. Cold turkey.

JDKJ: Do you have a link to this report or are you joking?
Would be sad if this was true. I could only imaging that his wife would be a crazy as him, just for allowing him to make these stupid lawsuits.

By the way, is there any info on Thompson's wife ie mental state, how she does court cases, her court cases that she was in. I would find it interesting.

Who gives a fuck what this fake ass old spaz does?

@Erik:

"Getting?"

JDKJ,
I still stand behind my "conflict of interest" argument regarding Dr. Wunderman's evaluation of John Bruce.

While psychologists and counselers have a variety of foundations to use to counsel patients, which is really all well and good, having someone who is the follower of a similar religious belief (especially a fundamentalist and/or extremist) as the person being evaluated, it makes the evaluation extremely unreliable.

Imagine having a psychologist who believes shock therapy should be used on homosexuals to make them "normal" evaluate Fred Phelps.

While someone might choose Dr. Wunderman to counsel their family because of similar religious beliefs might be fine, I wouldn't trust an evaluation by Dr. Wunderman when the person being evaluated is of similar religious beliefs. Dr. Wunderman and his wife are both of a fundamentalist religion (of which Dr. Wunderman's wife is a religious leader) that follows similar beliefs of John Bruce's. Which is why John Bruce would happily accept being evaluated by Dr. Wunderman.

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software

@nightwng2000:

Add that to the fact that Jack paid for Wunderman's opinion himself and you're left with a couple sheets of paper that may have some value if you're taking a crap in the woods and ain't got no Charmin, but other than that . . . .

Profiting off the stocks of a company that makes the thing your trying to eliminate.....the ass backward logic that can only come from Jack Thompson....

Of course you can go Mr JT,

The meeting will be @ Dumbsville I.8.A.Horse Drive

Admission is free, you pay at the door,

Bring your own seets, because we will be sitting on the floor.

JACK THOMPSON IS NOT NEWS-WORTHY! QUIT GIVING HIM PUBLICITY!

@GRIZZAM 512

His voice can't be the only voice.

@Ghost Coins:

Indeed. ... even though sometimes it feels like a losing battle that makes you wanna say 'F*** it' and let them have their victory, we must remain vigilant in the face of such stupidity.

(Mainly I needed a reason to post so firefox'll remember my info again and I won't have to re-enter it.)

publicity stunt......



*sigh* like last year, he will go away , so lets just do ourselves a favour n ignore this whole issue now n not give him any more attention

The following really sums up Jack's stance on reality:

"They are in front of us, behind us, and we are flanked on both sides by an enemy that outnumbers us 29:1. They can't get away from us now!"
- Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC

Well, if he ever starts anything, he'll just be escorted out of the meeting, while shouting that his First Amendment Rights are being violated. The other members would probably applaud as he's being carried off, granted that most of Take-Two's investors probably like games / their Take-Two stocks.

JT going to this type of meeting is like a straight dude going into a gay bar, everybody's gonna be goin' for his ass.

Stray thought - if he really hates T2 as much as he does...isn't it kind of hypocritical to own their stocks? Even assuming he does.

@ Jadecritic

Not really, if he recently bought it (since the EA offer) and he goes in yelling about how TT is ruining America and demanding sale, then yes it would.
But he's had them for a while. Share holders get to attened share holder events to speak on issues concerning them.

If he goes I want someone to record his "Vidja Games are evil!" speech.

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!! (streches arms to the sky like a referee signaling a touchdown) The Florida Bar's going for the gusto!!!!!!!!!!! They want Jack Thompson permanently disbarred!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (So says Jack, but I believe him).

Jack just disclosed in his most recent rant-pleading to the Supreme Court (he keeps filing at least one a day despite being under threat of sanctions for excessive filings) that that the Florida Bar will settle for no less than his permanent disbarment. Last time I heard, they were willing to settle for a five-year suspension. Seems they upped the ante on him. This is, without doubt, the best news I've heard all year.

Hoooah!!!! (sorry, I had to do it).

Full text of Jack's disclosure is below:


From: Jack Thompson [mailto:XXXXXXX@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 11:08 AM
Subject: Well, this gives "perversion of justice new meaning"


IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA

JOHN B. THOMPSON, Complainant,

v.

THE FLORIDA BAR, Respondent.

Case Numbers SC 07 - 80 and 07- 354

RESPONDENT'S SUPPLEMENTAL RESPONSE


TO FEBRUARY 19 SHOW CAUSE ORDER


COMES NOW respondent Thompson and further responds to this court's February 19 show cause order, stating:


As if on cue, two days after filing a supplemental response to the show
cause order herein noting the preferential treatment serial sex offender and attorney Steven Effman received from this Court, the attached article
appeared this morning in the Miami Herald regarding Democratic politico
Barry Kutun. And some people claim there is no God.

Kutun, as this Court well knows since it approved this sweetheart deal, this
well-connected gentleman had numerous trysts with an underage prostitute. Even Eliot Spitzer is not alleged to have done that.

Contrast this deal with what The Bar wants from the undersigned: permanent disbarment. No suspension, no probation, just permanent disbarment. The demand of Thompson went from 90 days to permanent disbarment because Thompson dared seek federal relief from the excesses of The Bar, which are patently proven by the criminal bumping up of punishment simply because federal relief was sought. There is no other explanation because there is no other reason for it.

What we have in this situation, in the person of Steve Chaykin, is the
Florida Bar Governor's version of Eliot Spitzer, sans the charm.

Mr. Chaykin, who is presently serving the best interests of the citizens of
Florida, is the one who demands permanent disbarment for Thompson. Mr. Chaykin is has publicly branded anyone who does not agree with him on gay adoption (Thompson does not) an "enemy of The Bar" and "outside the core values of our Bar." This is terrific. The Bar has a paranoid on its Board of Governors who actively seeks retribution against his "enemies" with enhanced punishment because they aren't square pegs that fit into his
pro-gay hole.

Thompson should like to propose a deal to this Court, since this is
obviously how this Court operates: Thompson will change his party affiliate to "Democrat," pronounce his fondness for gay adoption and the gay lifestyle, have sex with 16-year-old prostitutes, have forced sex with his female clients, launder money for the Medellin cocaine cartel to benefit Roy Black, confine his criticisms, like the aforementioned Roy Black, to Florida judges on national television rather than in Thompson's letters to those judges, represent the porn-to-kids industry rather than attack it, stalk a former employee, as did Thompson Bar complainant Tom Tew, commit perjury like Larry Kellogg and Al Cardenas to try to nail an anti-obscenity crusader, and last, but not least, exhibit the Spitzer-eclipsing hubris of one of you sitting on the Supreme Court and announce that we need to round up lawyers with bad manners and suspend them, the United States Constitution notwithstanding.

If Thompson does all of that, will you, this Honorable Court, give me a "get out of jail free and get out of disbarment free" card? Apparently one has to be a pervert to catch a break from this Court and its "official arm," The Floriduh Bar.

The Kutun deal renders this Supreme Court of Florida a disgrace and a cruel joke. You have managed to stand our entire system of law on its head. Lawyers who stand up to sexual obscenity sold to children in the public square are to be disbarred and lawyers who pay for sex with children are to be treated with kid gloves.

What is more, no charging authority has indicted Thompson (since noting that judges can be wrong is a crime), no client has complained about Thompson, and no member of the public has even complained.

What's the problem here with you people? Is it sexual perversion within The Bar, its leaders, and its personnel that is driving this lunatic regulatory
engine, or is it simply the frivolous nature of the Justices on this Court?

This Court seeks to remove the speck from the undersigned's eye while not seeing the log in its own. You people should be arrested for impersonating judges, and in fact, that is precisely what you have done, having sat on your bench without so much as even executing mandatory state loyalty oaths.


I HEREBY CERTIFY that I have provided this to The Florida Bar, 1200 Edgewater Drive, Orlando, Florida, March 14, 2008.


John B. Thompson, Attorney, Florida Bar
#231665
XXXXX South Dixie Hwy., Suite XXX
Coral Gables, Florida 33146
XXXXXXXX
XXXXXXX@comcast.net

@The letter JDKJ posted


Wow, just wow. Jack really is sliding into Francis Dec level isn't he? And still Jack misses the point. The problem isn't what he believes, but how he conducts himself. It doesn't matter if you are a democrat, republican or communist. You do NOT send gay porn to judges. It doesn't happen.

GRIZZAM 512 -

I agree with you. I don't think Jack Thompson should be given the time of day unless he is doing something newsworthy... this is not newsworthy as he as been talking about it for quite a while. It is OLD NEWS. It is predictable and it is putting out the message to everyone that reads it that Jack Thompson is a legitimate threat. He is not.

He is not a threat to the industry because no one respects him. Judges don't respect him, his fellow lawyers don't respect him and most of all the Florida bar does not respect him. He is quite literally a joke to everyone he encounters.

So who is the threat since Jack Thompson quite OBVIOUSLY is not? The mainstream media that enables him. Concentrating on Jack Thompson is a terrible tactic as he is not the real problem. Ever wonder what Jack Thompson would do if he couldn't get a segment on Fox effortlessly after a school shooting happened? He would continue fighting his losing battles in court. He would continue going to court and being threatened with contempt of court because of his bizarre court behavior. I really am tired of people turning Jack Thompson into some kind of legitimate force to be reckoned with. It is the media! THE MEDIA! The people who give him the time of day and I am sad to say that even though GP covers Jack Thompson in a more honest light than all other sources... they too are guilty of being obsessed with this fool.

Ignoring this man is the answer whether you like it or not. This idiotic claim that "oh it didn't work in the past so i can't work now" is a fallacy and is actually considered to be an opinion with some kind of valid meaning. It isn't and it never was. It is just a foolish tactic to dupe individuals that don't understand the meaning of logical reasoning. Now if you want to hold a discussion with some kind of logical validity behind it and agree to drop this foolish "it didn't work then so it can't work now" faulty argument then I'll be happy to contribute. But right now GP is playing right into Jack Thompson's game. Doing EXACTLY what he wants them to do.

Fox loves Jack... does Fox even KNOW GP? I'm sure you see the writing on the wall. Why continue fighting Jack in this manner? Fighting faulty logic with faulty logic? Good idea....

@TJLK


You do realize that if there are no stories that point out Jack's bullshit, that people may actually think he is a "School Shooting Expert" as FoxNews tried to pawn him off as right? No, sorry. He is a fool and that MUST be brought to light.

NO. You can speak against his issues without speaking out the man. Are you trying to claim that you can't form legitimate opinions against his unless you join them with his name? Give me a break.

@ TJLK

Um... how would it hurt the industry as a whole? Take Two is almost the only gaming entity that even gave him the time of day so far.

@TJLK:

To prove the point, try this rhetorical question:

You think Jack really cares about universal harm to children? When Jack obviously doesn't even care enough about his own child to keep said child distanced from bullshit? Them two 2s don't make no 4.

"no client has complained about Thompson, and no member of the public has even complained."

lol wut?

Oh wait that's right, he doesn't consider gamers members of the public.

DavCube - I'm speaking of game-related media and gamers which are a vital segment of the game industry. Actually gamers are the most vital in my opinion.

JDKJ - There is a message and ignoring his message is not the answer. His message as he clearly states over and over again is that violent video games are marketed toward children and are the root cause of school shootings and other violent actions. THIS IS HIS MESSAGE. The message that because an individual plays video games they are likely to become violent or commit crimes. There are others who support this message.

In this particular case his message is also clear. He is turning Take Two into a scapegoat for all these problems that are not even related to video games in the first place. As inaccurate and illegitimate as his message is he is still speaking it frequently. The message is what needs countering. Attack the message because the message is the root of the problem. The man isn't. Without the man there would be another fool saying the same exact thing. And the mainstream media(especially Fox) would be happy to grant them the time of day and the platform.

JDKJ - That is the message that is going to be heard by the general public. The general public is the main concern for the pro-gamer activist. If the general public is not educated about what a game is, what a gamer is who gamers are and all other information that will reflect gaming culture in a true light then they will simply buy into what the mainstream media says. The mainstream media's main purpose is to inform the general public. Whether or not that information is accurate or not is up in the air. The goal of the pro-game activist should be to educate the general public not consistently bash an enemy of truth and freedom.

Concentrating on JT is not going to help anything. All it is doing is preaching to the choir. We need an outreach to those who don't know the truth behind gamers, the game industry and gaming culture.

Alyssey -

I agree that when the torch is passed to the next generation these problems, in theory, should begin to rectify itself. It is a pretty difficult thing to disprove statistically but I don't want to be caught blindsided by an unpredicted or unlikely outcome.

It is important to divorce the man from the issue. Just because someone insane is preaching a particular message doesn't mean that message is false. Sometime people should realize that it absolutely is about the message and not the individual. The topics of discussion should be why or why not the message is true or false. The flaws in the message should be expressed over the flaws in the man. And really that isn't that much more difficult. The ECA has a page full of awesome statistics to spit out when you are in these discussions.

http://www.theeca.com/video_games_violence

That and if you ally yourself with liberty and the constitution, in particular the first amendment, you become a very difficult person to defeat in a debate.

@TJLK:

Actually, it's entirely more economical to prove that someone is without a shred of credibilty and hence nothing they say is to be believed rather than to prove any one particular thing they said is false. Old trial lawyer trick.

Plus, once you destroyed their credibilty as to current statements, the "can't believe a word" effect lingers and attaches to subsequent statements. That's pretty productive.

@TJLK:

Unfortunately, most of the folk on the other side of the debate aren't batshit crazy and obvious habitual liars. I'll take an easy lay-up when I get the chance.

JDKJ - I suppose we just have different styles.

DarkTetsuya - Just because I'd like to divorce his name from the issue at hand does not mean that general public will assume he is correct. In fact I think it will reflect a more legitimate concern to the general public and will do more damage to his credibility. It will also help retain the pro-gamers credibility because we would no longer just talking trash.

@TJLK:

And I'm not arguing that my approach is to be taken to the exclusion of your approach. Perhaps both approaches can serve a useful purpose. The Dream Team didn't rest on "Have you ever called anyone a nicka in the last 10 years?" They also hit 'em with "If the gloves don't fit, you must acquit." I think both points influenced the jury.

I'm noy saying, "I did it." But if I did, here's how I did it.

Couldn't they void Jacko's shares so they're useless?

How many last mistakes are a company like take two allowed to make? Most of us only get one, it seems they have a much larger supply...

@JDKJ

I wonder what 'ole JT would do if his own son back-talked and mouthed off to him like that. I mean really, how immature can this idiot get? It's really like he WANTS to get disbarred and is going out of his way to make it happen. I've seen some self-destructive people in the past but Jack Thompson beats them all out hands down; and this is compared to a goth girl I knew in school who liked to cut herself and a guy in basic training I caught trying to slit his own wrists.

All I can say is "Damn, Jack has gone nuts!".

Anyone get a vidja camera yet? Bruce is like a train wreck, ya knw it's bad, and ya know you don't wanna look or watch, but you can't help it.

Besides Tack Jhompson isn't the only "Holy Crusader" out there. He just happans to be the one who screams "HEY LOOK AT ME, HEY I'M IMPORTANT. HEY SHUT UP! I'M IMPORTANT YOUR NOT! VIDJA GAMERS A MURDER SIMULATORS! HEY I SAID SHUT UP, I'M ON TV AND YOUR NOT SO THAT PROVES I'M IMPORTANT!"