Liberty City Endorses Hillary?

March 26, 2008 -
So GP got this e-mail last evening from the Hillary Clinton campaign. It ran under the headline:

Liberty City Democratic Club Endorses Hillary Clinton

Wait, we thought.. That can't be right. Hillary is most game-legislating of all the presidential candidates and Liberty City, well, that's Grand Theft Auto territory.

As it turns out, this Liberty City group is a political club for the LGBT community in Pennsylvania, where the April 22nd primary is looking more and more like a make-or-break situation for Clinton and opponent Barack Obama.

UPDATE: I've been thinking... GTA IV launches in a month. Hillary has had a lot to say about GTA in the past, especially in regard to Hot Coffee. April Fool's Day is next Tuesday. Still, the group's website looks legit and so does its domain registration. What do you think, GP readers?

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Just wanted to point out:

PA is -not- "make it or break it" for the campaigns. This campaign, by the numbers, is already over.

Senator Obama leads Senator Clinton by a vast margin of delegates and within the popular vote itself - roughly 850,000 votes, to be exact.

For perspective, the PA Democratic Party just broke their registration record, with 4,000,000 votes registered with the party. If by some amazing, impossible chance, PA has 100% Voter Turnout, AND Senator Clinton wins by 20 points, she will still not surpass Senator Obama in the popular vote. And PA is the last large-state stronghold left for Clinton.

PA is "make it or break it" for Clinton's media narrative, as the only plausible way for her to take the election at this point is via Superdelegates overriding the popular vote. Not gonna touch the politics of that here..

Save a massive campaign implosion on Obama's part, this campaign has been wrapped up for a month and a half, and isn't changing save in the event of Coup by Superdelegate.

Well, some of their media is linked to National Stonewall Democrats, an LGBT Democrat group. And they list Liberty City Democratic Club as a Pennsylvania local chapter... And Philly is also known as the "Cradle of Liberty", even has One Liberty Place Building, and the Liberty Bell.

So if it's a joke, it's a REALLY elaborate one. ;)
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...

If Hillary were to win the primary based heavily on superdelegates, it is in my opinion that the backlash would be fatal to any chance at Hillary's presidency chances. Also, her chances of winning are further hurt by the fact that, based on this years primary results from both parties, I believe that most American's want a more moderate candidate, especially after 8 years of a "conservative" (he's not) Bush Jr. Hillary is, IMO, Bush's equal and opposite, and she's just as divisive not what we need right now. Hillary may be what the Democratic leadership wants, but not what the people want and not what the Democratic Party needs if they want to win the Election.

WOW i saw liberty city and was like OMFG NO WAY!? then i realized it was in pennsylvania and was like OMG GTFO because im silly like that.



worst article ever.

I was like wow the irony haha. :)

It'll be especially amusing if GTA4 happens to feature a shrill female politician with tendencies towards banning 'inappropriate' forms of expression.

Wouldn't Liberty City be a trademark of Rockstar? They could probably demand that the LGBT group change their name.

@GP: Why did you get this email? Was it just random political spam, are you signed up for any press release newsletters waiting for the inevitable "Ban fun, for the sake of the kids!" announcement or was someone in their office also thinking it sounded GTA-ish?

Heh, thats reasonably funny. :)

i vote for them to change their name =^.^=
Clinton can stay away from my liberty........... the city too........

Apparantly the Statue of Happiness (Statue of Liberty parody) in Liberty City looks just like Hilary. Oh the joys of rocket launchers.

I almost thought that this was in-game joke. That'd be pretty funny

I figured it was someone doing some kind of hack/spoof in a GTA game to make it look like in-game advertising, and then some idjit from the Clinton campaign got wind and thought it was real.

That would have been far more entertaining. Hint hint.

Who says GP can't bring the lulz? :)

I sign up for e-mails from all of the major campaigns. You never know what you'll find. I found a couple of game-related stories from the Mitt Romney e-mails when he was still in the mix, for example.

@GP

You mentioned the site and registration looked legit. If there's any concern of April Fool's, what about the e-mail headers from the e-mail that alerted you?

Weird. Does Hillary support rating criminals via a 'star rating' as well? Whats her stance on missions with timers? Does she support Ammu-Nation in allowing anyone to purchase a gun? What is she doing to get Secret Packages off the streets of Liberty City?

I, as an informed citizen of this democratic nation, need to know.

@Matt -- the problem is that without Florida or Michigan delegates being counted, it would appear that neither candidate will have enough delegates to garner a nomination. This is where it gets tricky.

You're right when you say this is "make or break" for Hillary. She needs a strong win in Pennsylvania to have any shot at winning once all the back room deals begin at the convention. She needs to be able to say, "I won all of the big states" to have a case. If Obama wins, she's probably toast.

Heck, I even saw a theory that Gore could still end up being the nominee with Clinton or Obama on the ticket as VP. (If I can find the link again, I'll provide it.)

Well a quick google ssearch turned up some news from '98 on this group. So I say it is legit.

@ Matt and Dog_welder

The limit on Primary delegates will not be met to declare either candidate as the PResidential candidate. If one had met that mile stone, there would have been no need to focus on super delegates unless the popular vote was not what the democrats wanted running. No matter what happens in PA, it will all come down to the Super delegates, which last I heard Hillary had a slight lead, but there were still a large number of undecided.

"Weird. Does Hillary support rating criminals via a ’star rating’ as well? Whats her stance on missions with timers? Does she support Ammu-Nation in allowing anyone to purchase a gun? What is she doing to get Secret Packages off the streets of Liberty City?

I, as an informed citizen of this democratic nation, need to know."

LAWL! Brilliant.

this sounds fishy (no offence gp) why would hillary an anti game activist contact a pro game news site talking about her supporters?

I say it's as fake as Mushroom Kingdom Hearts.

@cullarn

As GP explained, it's not really that Hillary's groups contacted a pro game site, but that he himself signed up for Hillary's campaign newsletters.
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oh ok that makes sense i once again blame the flu for my lack of thinking lol

Rosehip tea works good. Lots of vitamin C, and it's not as tart as cranberry. :)
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thanx for the info ill try those

It may just be my eyes, but it's very difficult to tell if the cityscape on their site is real or not - it looks like it could be from a game...

Real or not this is still hilarious on the irony scale! LOL!

The WhoIs says the domain was registered on 06-Mar-1999, last updated on 01-May-2006 and expires on 06-Mar-2012. I would say this website isn't a joke.

@Delin

The Democratic leadership does not want Hillary Clinton. Granted, they are being very careful about it, but it has become pretty clear that Nancy Pelosi does not like what Hillary is doing in this race. Several Democratic party leaders have said something to the effect of, "Whoever has the most pledged delegates should receive the nomination" or "The superdelegates should not overturn the votes of the pledged delegates." Since Barack Obama will have the lead in pledged delegates by the end of the race (no matter what else happens), that is an implicit endorsement of his nomination. These are professional politicians we're talking about, so they know what they're saying and how it will be read.

@Dog_Welder

Actually, Michigan and Florida change nothing. If they were counted (and if Obama got all the "uncommitted" votes from Michigan since his name wasn't even on the ballot), Clinton still wouldn't have enough to make up his lead. If you worked out the math, you would see that she would still be insurmountably behind. Moreover, the magic 2,024 number would change because if Michigan and Florida were counted, the total number of delegates and superdelegates would change, too.

Certainly it's true that it's up to the superdelegates to decide this, but over the past month, Barack Obama has gotten the support of 60 superdelegates while Hillary Clinton has only managed 2. There's no reason to believe the trend will not continue regardless of what happens in Pennsylvania. The superdelegates can see the math. Matt is correct in saying that this nomination is over. Hillary's own campaign aides have estimated her chances at 10% (according to David Brooks of the NYTimes). It's merely a question of how long Hillary wants to slog it out and when the superdelegates will decide to step in. My guess is they will give it to Obama after the North Carolina primary because it will be most politically tactful to do so right after he has a big win.

On Politics: The absolute worst thing the Dems could do is nominate Hillary, and they have to know that. Just because Obama has been polite enough to abstain from revisiting her VAST HISTORY OF SLIMEY CONSPIRACY AND DEATH (you know, when we impeached her husband?) the GOP won't likely extend the same courtesy.

On the liberty city democratic club: It all smells kind of fishy to me, I don't know if the rest of you have noticed, but LGBT organizations gather partners like plague. They're always lining up to support each other. How many partner organizations does this particular organization purportedly have? One - "LibertyPA" Linking through to libertypa.org is a placeholder/misleading adver-site. Smells like R* is at it again.

@ Jeff: That can't be accurate. The site links through to documents dated 2008.

I want to join their organization just for the '@libertycity.org' email addy! :p

wonder if Nikolai@libertycity.org is available? ;)

It has nothing to do with GTA or Rockstar, aside from Sam Houser's self professed hate of Hilary in a recent interview or two, I did a WHOIS look up on the site and it's owned by a group called "Liberty City Gay & Lesbian Democratic Club" and a Google of that name brought up a couple articles, it's just a group in Philadelphia (hence the Liberty City thing) and doesn't have anything to do with Rockstar, they would also have it hosted on a Rockstar server like all the other related sites are. Then of course there's the thing where this just isn't funny.

Jack Thompson is already said to be parodied in one of the missions in GTAIV, as a corrupt lawyer named "Goldberg". Niko eventually kills him in the game, appparently.

Maybe Hilary will too? Hrmm..

Oh the irony.....

Liberty City endorses Goatse

http://goatse.cx

the wayback machine (archive.org) has archives for that page back to 2000. Unless Rockstar is way ahead of the game, just a coincidence. :)

Is my last post not showing up for anyone but me? O_o

A rather obvious trend I've noticed in GTA games is that the GTA worlds always fanatically support something asinine to the point that it comes off as purely satirical... Obviously one is led to believe that R* must support the opposite in reality. You gotta love their sense of humor.

From their website:

Liberty City Lesbian and Gay Democratic Club was founded in the Fall of 1994 by activists who wanted to build lesbian and gay power and involvement in the Democratic Party.

The following goals of Liberty City remain the primary objectives of the organization.


Register, educate and mobilize lesbian, gay, bi-sexual and transgender (LGBT) voters


*THIS IS WHAT I THINK THE JOKE IS:*
Elect openly LGBT candidates for public and party office


Support LGBT-friendly candidates and work to oust anti-gay office holders


Promote legislative issues of importance to the LGBT community


Provide a forum LGBT voters to meet candidates and officeholders
 
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