The Bar Trial of Jack Thompson (Part 8): Thompson's Closing Statement

The Bar Trial of Jack Thompson (Part 8): Thompson's Closing Statement

March 27, 2008

We're coming to the end of our exclusive series detailing the video game-related testimony in controversial attorney Jack Thompson's professional misconduct trial by the Florida Bar.

In today's episode, GamePolitics will present Thompson's closing argument. There is no cross-examination during a closing. It's an attorney's chance to summarize the case for the Court, recalling evidence presented and touching on points of law. As such, except for a couple of procedural matters, this is Thompson speaking.

In tomorrow's finale, GP will recap the series, including an explanation of how it all came together. If you've missed any of the previous installments, just click the Bar Trial series tag to catch up.

(In today's excerpted transcript, JT is Thompson, TUMA is prosecutor Sheila Tuma and DT is Judge Dava Tunis, who is presiding over the case…)

JT: Okay. By way of closing argument... here's the text of the Florida Religious Freedom Restoration Act. Did I give you that?...

TUMA: Yes.

JT: It says... "Exercise of religion means an act or refusal to act that is substantially motivated by a religious belief, whether or not the religious exercise is compulsory or central to a larger system of religious beliefs... The Government may substantially burden a person's exercise of religion only if it is demonstrated that application of the burden to the person is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest, is the least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest... A person whose religious exercise has been burdened in violation of this section may assert that violation as a claim or defense in a judicial proceeding and obtain appropriate relief."

I'm simply making the argument, Judge, that my motivations - which I have tried to make clear, maybe to the point of nausea - are religious and that my efforts against the distribution of adult material, pornographic material, violent material, adult rated material to children is violative of the law as well as violative of Scripture. I quoted the biblical passage where Jesus says, reportedly: "If any one of you should cause one of these little ones to stumble, it would be better that a millstone be tied around your neck and that you be cast in the uttermost depths of the sea."

If I am disbarred, which is the wish of these [Florida Bar] people... I will continue to do what I'm doing on these issues whether they disbar me or not because this is what I was called to do, this is what I was enabled to do more effectively as a lawyer...



These [Florida Bar] people, Judge, in 1992, sought and got an order of the Supreme Court of Florida, telling me: "You will either submit to a mental health exam by the Bar's own chosen psychiatrist and psychologist because, A. we think you may have brain damage; and, B, we believe your obsession with photography -" they meant against pornography "- is so severe that you are mentally incapacitated by virtue of that disability and unfit to practice law."

As I recounted in my book... they found that Jack Thompson is perfectly sane... He doesn't have brain damage and, in fact, he's a Christian acting out his faith in this fashion. So they're stuck with a formal document that they generated to the humiliation of me in my community that I'm simply a Christian acting out my faith when I do these things.

When you've got hypocrites... then I have a right - in fact, I have duty, as Jesus did, the confront the Pharisees and say: "You are hypocrites. You are liars. You are whited sepulchers. You're in a den of thieves," and so forth... So these people now in this situation, it's all by stealth. They want to do it in the darkness...

I asked you, Judge, at the outset: Will they please disclose to me what in the world their position is as to my mental health. They wouldn't do that and yet they required the resolution of this matter with a demand that after I'd pled guilty to all these things, I'd then have to submit to a mental health exam. That's what they said, knowing my motivation is religious...

Then I submit to them the psychological forensic evaluation of me by Dr. Oren Wunderman, who's used by the Florida Bar because they considered him an expert... and he said: "Look. This guy's a competent attorney. He's, in effect, under attack by people who don't like what he's doing and his religious faith not only animates what he does, but also enriches his practice of law and enriches his capabilities as a lawyer..."

So, Judge, you have to make a determination, which I'm asking you to make, that the Florida Religious Freedom Restoration Act is being violated by the Florida Bar because of their effort to punish me for the acting out of my religion... Done - on that one.

DT: I'm sorry. You're asking me a question?

JT: No.

DT: Oh, I think that the Bar is going to submit their responses in writing. That's what I understood.

TUMA: We were... We already have a memorandum of law regarding this. Mr. Thompson has raised this in our pleadings before and we do have a memorandum of law and whether the Bar  is violating the Respondent's rights under the Florida Religious Freedom Restoration Act case....

JT: ... Okay, Judge. May I finish?

DT: Yes. Of course.

JT: Okay. Another argument [by Florida law] Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation, SLAPP suits, by governmental entities are prohibited... I'll just point out and ask the Court to read Section 4. It says" "No governmental entity in this state shall file or cause to be filed... any lawsuit -" and then the important phrase here "-cause of action-" differentiating it from a lawsuit "-claim, cross-claim or counterclaim against a person... solely because such person... has exercised the right to... petition for redress of grievances before the various governmental entities of this state."

My book, which you wouldn't allow into evidence, recounts the efforts - past efforts - of the Florida Bar to improperly discipline me, which resulted in the payment of damages and so forth... That's in evidence by the virtue of my testimony. It's been my contention that what has animated the Bar... is the exercise of my First Amendment rights to be critical of the Bar and say no to them in the past and now for their attempt to wrongly discipline me. I think it's vindictive. I think it's a clear attempt to punish me for the exercise of my First Amendment speech... Judge, I was hampered in this defense when I asked for certain discovery from the Bar and I was told I couldn't look at documents the Bar had  without first paying a $4,000 up front fee to look at my own file up there...

So what the Court has to do is address the fact that this is nothing but a SLAPP action by the Florida Bar in pursuit of an attempt to chill my First Amendment speech... I'm done with that one.

TUMA: I have a memorandum on this. The Bar is going to tender to Your Honor a memorandum on whether the Bar is violating Respondent's First Amendment rights to free speech....

DT: Thank you.

JT: Finally, we get to the last thing, the First Amendment. Did I give you all the Fieger ruling? I know the Judge has it...

DT: Is that a Michigan case, Mr. Thompson?

JT: Yes... Judge, do you have yours? If not, I've got another one...

DT: Thank you...

JT: Mr. Fieger [a prominent attorney] had some sort of a dispute... and Mr. Fieger had a radio program and he... was upset about what these judges had done and he called them Nazis. He said that their ruling was worse than if you had put a certain number of monkeys in a room and they had typed at typewriters and come up with the opinion. It suggested that they were in the pockets of commercial interests.

DT: He said this to whom?

JT: He said it... on his radio show to the whole state of Michigan.

DT: OKay. So he was a radio personality, a person on the radio.

JT: He's a lawyer. He's a very successful lawyer who's been on all the talk shows... Greta Van Susteren, and -

DT: Okay.

JT: He also represented Dr. Kevorkian, "Dr. Death." He ran for governor of Michigan...

(Fieger was sanctioned by the Michigan Supreme Court for his criticism of the judiciary; Thompson is referring here to a U.S. District Court decision which overruled the Michigan Supreme Court)

You'll note that that... this federal court says - if you compare the importance of the two - the respect for the judiciary or individual judges is less important than protecting the... judicial process because judges come and go... The opinion here is that unless someone said something that is false... or in reckless disregard of the truth then... you have to let it go and you're allowed to say these things.

Now, there's been no testimony, no evidence - in my opinion - anywhere in this case, Judge, that I have uttered anything that's false about Judge Moore or Judge Friedman or that I have uttered what I have said in reckless disregard of the truth or falsity of what I've said.

I've said that Judge Friedman violated his own order, which he did. He didn't give me a hearing that he said he would give me. He didn't review the game [Bully] which he said he would do. Then I wrote some other things to him which he found annoying... So believe me, having been within the belly of Judge Friedman's courtroom and seen what he did improperly in an ex-parte proceeding where he didn't do what he said he would do, I had a right to tell the truth. I had a right to identify what he had done wrong.

DT: You mean an in camera proceeding?

JT: What did I say?

DT: Ex parte

JT: In camera... I didn't question of either Judge Moore or Judge Friedman their integrity.

(GP: although Thompson alluded that Alabama lawyer Clatus Junkin claimed to be able to fix cases with Judge Moore... and in his cross-examination of Moore, Moore said, "I saw a letter not long ago where you said I was corrupt." to which Thompson replied, " Yes, I think you are, but not in that [case-fixing] sense.")

JT: Clatus Junkin, the self-important king maker, as he views himself as having put this judge [Moore] on the bench - and believe me, there's plenty more about that - was upset that I had defamed him and he came here... to tell the Court what a despicable human being I was and how I had defamed him. I had no option whatsoever but to go to the authorities... and tell him that this guy was running around, according to every lawyer who knew him in Alabama, that he could arrange the result in a case. And having heard that, what did I do? I acted upon it to do what? To preserve the integrity of the bench, not to harm it...

The matter before [Bully case] Judge Friedman was over, and yet I'm charged... with engaging in conduct with the practice of law that is prejudicial to the administration of justice. First of all, I had no client. I brought a pro bono on behalf of the State as a private attorney general. I had no client... Secondly, I didn't attack the integrity of this judge or his qualifications... I didn't question his integrity. I questioned the propriety of a judge violating his own orders...

Further, what we've got here, Judge - and there was some discussion about this earlier - is: This is a libel case that these people brought against me, a criminal libel case.

(GP: this is Thompson's analagous characterization of the case; it is not in fact a criminal case, nor is it a libel case. It is a series of professional misconduct allegations under Florida Bar rules

JT: Criminal libel, by the way, is unconstitutional almost everywhere in this country. You can't punish anybody by anything other than taking money from them, which would be a civil libel action, but these people want to take my career away from me. It's clearly penal in nature as the Supreme Court defines this type of disciplinary proceeding. They want me to forfeit my license. So whether we want to consider it a criminal action... it's clearly violative of the Florida Constitution-

DT: What's violative?

JT: This proceeding against me as to my speech.

DT: Okay. I just wanted to follow that last argument.

JT: If you look -

DT: No, no. You don't have to - Say it again? ...

JT: I understand. - and I just want to build on that, if I may... Article one, section 4 of the Florida Constitution. I don't have it in front of me, but basically it says-

DT: That's okay. I'll look it up.

JT: Basically it says... you can't impinge upon a Florida resident's First Amendment rights... if you look at all of these complaints, Judge, they're almost all violations of my speech rights. I've said some things that bothered Clatus Junkin and I said some things about Judge Friedman that the Third District in another case agreed with me about how he runs his Court, pre-judging cases... So, Judge, this is First Amendment speech. It's been engaged in to protect the integrity of the judicial process...

(GP: Thompson then says that it was his complaint that led to the removal of The Crying Judge in the Anna Nicole Smith case, so...)

JT: So, Judge, where do you draw the line? ...Am I allowed to write the Broward State Attorney about... [Crying Judge] Larry Seidlin, who's now going to have his own reality TV show? Am I allowed to do that?

Am I allowed to talk about Judge Friedman pre-judging cases, acting as if he were a tyrant in his chambers and in his courtroom and taking unsworn testimony from operatives of Take Two? Am I allowed to talk about that?

Am I allowed to talk about the fact that Clatus Junkin indicates to me and others that he's in charge in Fayette, Alabama... If I defame Clatus Junkin, who has said that this is the worst thing any human being had done to him, then he could bring a defamation action.

The restriction upon me as a lawyer, which I understand, is that I have to have within the bounds upon my rights a respect for the judiciary, of the integrity of a judge. Yet the standard that I'm held to in that regard as a lawyer which gives them, the Florida Bar, the right to discipline me if I go over that line is the same line that's delineated in libel law...

Judge, I'll conclude with this, and I appreciate the Court's indulgence. The Court had extended me many courtesies during the last nine days, and I appreciate the ones you extended to me and I'll say again with no disrespect for the Court in this regard. I would have liked a little less courtesy and a little more fairness...

You know, I don't know what's going to happen here. I've got an idea... So my detractors and opponents have the view that they can file Bar complaints against me, threaten to rape my wife, corporately incite the sending of sex products to my wife and me at our home, and I'm supposed to just sit there and be a human pinata for anything that the Florida Bar, which collaborates with these people - and, Judge, you don't know the half of it. You don't know the half of what has gone on here - and that I'm supposed to just sit there and take all this nonsense and not complain...

(GP: it's unclear what the "rape" allegation refers to. As we recall, the "sex products" allegation seems to want to blame Rockstar for somehow inciting unnamed persons to send the items to Thompson by way of harassment... )

Blank Rome, knowing my wife had just had ovarian cancer surgery, sued me with a lawsuit at our house - at our house - knowing she's stretched out on a couch, unable to move. Ray Reiser had asked them not to bother us at our home, and these people, knowing she had this surgery and is recovering from it, knowing I had a lawyer, Ray Reiser, to accept service, having been told that - my wife, she had to get up off the couch and receive this lawsuit at the door from a process server; and they knew it and they did it on purpose.

Judge, I apologize for any unkind comments I've had for you about my wife, and your total lack, in my opinion, of appreciation of the fact that to go through a process like this in which your profession is being threatened with being taken from you at the same time that your wife is fighting for her life and that you don't understand, apparently, Judge, that there are burdens in a situation like that, that it's almost too much for a body and a person to bear.

So, Judge, I appreciate you courtesies in the midst of all this. I think these [Florida Bar] people don't have any - don't have a sense of democracy in their bodies. They don't understand what freedom is about. They don't understand that the great infringer of freedoms in our nation's history and world history is government. These people don't care about that. They care about their view of ethics. They don't care about the little ones that are harmed by these people through their illegal commercial enterprises.

If this Court finds... If this Court wants to act upon their suggestion that you can find me guilty... for things that don't even involve the practice of law, then I will go on with my life... we'll just have to deal with that and we'll move on and we'll get a remedy in another venue [i.e. - the federal court system]

But, Judge, thank you for your kind offices and your courtroom for the last nine days; and I particularly appreciate your bailiff...

TUMA: ...The only thing the Bar would add is that we will put our closing in writing to Your Honor...

NEXT: GP's recap of the series...

Comments

oh and countles emails calling people 'stupid' and 'idiots' and saying gamers 'frontal lobes are fried' is in no way , and can be in no way construed, as being religiously motivated.

sorry for the triple post, im just very angry about this.
So he threatens that if disbarred he'll keep being an ass. Wasn't the point of this to give him a chance to defend his being an ass, rather than to threaten more of it?
"Soandso you are accused of robbing banks!"
"Yes! And if convicted I'll keep doing it! AN INVISIBLE SKY MONSTER TELLS ME TO DO SO!"
and now at the end he trys to put on the charm. Althou i think his earlyer actions have screwd its chances of working. Jack claims christianity and the early testiment has a bit ya know an "eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" (jack loves this) but new testiment (jesus) kind of revoked that you know with the whole if someone strikes one cheek turn and let him strike the other. also the new testimint didn't revoke the 10 commandments even the “If any one of you should cause one of these little ones to stumble, it would be better that a millstone be tied around your neck and that you be cast in the uttermost depths of the sea.” dos'nt say your allowed to break any of the 10 commandments for the sake of the children, my interpritation of the verse jack quoted is: dont cause childeren to break the 10 commandments or god will be a bit pissed at you.
but then when has jack been any good with scripture, and/as well as contexts?
I laughed when he plugged his book. I also laughed when he said he tried to enter it as evidence.

I am sorry John Bruce. Conjecture and hearsay do not qualify as "evidence". It has to be real.

He seriously misses the point of the bar hearing. He also misses the point of the First Amendment. The first amendment gives him the right to say the things he did. But it does nto give him the right to break rules that he agreed to follow. This hearing is about him breaking ethics rules. Not speaking out against judges and lawyers.

He seems to think that he has a right to be a lawyer. He seems to think that the First Amendment means he can be a lwayer. I am sorry. It does not. You still have the right to petition the government. You still have the right to speak out against corruption or what you conceve as corruption. You don't have the right to break ethincs rules that you agreed to follow.

His bringing up religion is laughable. He claims that his religion gives him the right to be a jerk. I am sorry. That is not the case. You have the right to excersize your religion, but you don't have the right to break ethics rules you agreed to follow.

I hope you are seeing a trend here.
@mogbert
Exactly.
How does his argument help him?
@GoodRobotUs:

And it's not like the Bar Rules stop Jack from doing his thing as he describes his thing. The Florida Rule at issue doesn't prohibit Jack from shouting his concerns about a jurist to the world. The way I read the Rule, it says, "Have at 'til your hoarse and blue in the face." What the Rule does prohibit is shouting false statements or statements made with reckless disregard for truth. I'm all for a robust discussion about the faults of the judiciary. That's a good thing. Running around and spewing a pack o' lies about the judiciary: bad thing.
My fax machine broke today at work... I suspect foul play. I think JT had something to do with it... It makes sense, because I read all of the transcripts at work...

Ok, all joking aside. GP good job with the transcripts. If he gets disbarred it'll throw his credibility out the window. It'll be a win for the gaming communtiy. People like JT have been using video games to blame for the younger generations problems for way too long. The real problems are the parents (which more than likely purchase the violent video games) and the retailers (for selling violent games to minors).

Also, my thoughts on the controversies brought on by JT, as well as everyone else that thinks like him, are IMO pushing Video Games as art just like Film, Books, Comic Books, etc...

anyway that was random and just wanted to put my thoughts out there
I was under the impression of ass kissing towards the end there.

He's been known to get out of the hot seat many many times in the past...though while his sacationed from the supreme court shots he couldn't get out of that one.....

His track record shows.

So in other words. I'm not holding my breath untill a ruling has been passed.

Though the evidence seems stacked against him.

All complaints against him where VERY consecutive. They all where pretty much the same exact argument and shows a pattern.

This may not bold will for him.
Sorry for the double post, but two more things.

1. Mr. Thompson, i'd hardly call a current scholarship-paid math major in college would be 'undereducated.' Oh wait. To you, learning how to be a lawyer is the only smart thing anyone can do. I forgot. My bad.

2. Out of curiosity, anyone got that clip he bragged about?
@ Jack Thompson, Attorney

"Most of you are so you and so undereducated that you don\’t even know what that term means."

Just like how you're so undereducated that you can't type a complete, grammatically correct sentence?

And no one here buys your bullshit about Dennis working for someone other than for the good of the public. Maybe on Fox News, but not here.
New Calvinball rule!
All press releases sent to more then three non-press members have opposite meaning regardless on whether opposite day is in effect or not. Additionally, after each each press release, you have to eat a watermelon before you can issue another one.

Can anyone get word to Attack of the Show? I'd like to nominate Jack's post for Epic Fail. It's pretty much proof that /b/tards can fail independantly of the chans.
@jadedcritic:

I do it for reasons which are more akin to those for which the living attend the funerals of the deceased (and which have very little to do with benefiting the recently departed).
Well... Jack has done it in style this time. Just the fact that he goes old testament on a court room is like watching the planets of "comic" and "irony" collide.

And what is this BS he is spouting about our first amendment (note "our")! As a Lawyer, of all people, he should know that that amendment is a double edged blade. The way he argued it he would have been better off stuffing his fingers in his ears and shouting "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" at the beginning of all of this. Anyway he needs to realize that the first amendment gives us all the right to be right, wrong, intelligent, unintelligent, strait up genius, and downright STUPID(i.e JT)! America is country of Religious Freedom and that means the ideals you hold high should not cast an unwanted shadow upon your neighbors.

@Mogbert
Jack Thompson - Epic Fail
lolz
A brief view into the mind of John Bruce "Jack" Thompson:

"Macaroni, CHA CHA CHA!!!"

And now for something... completely different.

Bring out the Guinesses, people! The end is nigh for Mr. Thompson!
what.. so he basically says he can do what he wants , because its down to his religion?

im sorry but no even if i believed he were genuinely motivated due to religion i cant agree with that. In an extreme situation which could result in some severe personal aggreivement, i.e. being forced to have a blood transfusion against your religious beliefs, througha method which basically amounts to an invasion of your body, then yes. but this.. this is merely his opinion. There's no serious gravity of consequence like in my previous example. And you cant go around doing anything you like because its 'opinion'.

On top of that i believe this is a man who knows the legal system and uses religion as an excuse. I dont believe any christians would condone the severe harrassment and insults he has thrown about. I dont beleive he is truly motivated by religion at all. At least not the religion of christianity.

The religion of ego and money... perhaps.
''As I recounted in my book… they found that Jack Thompson is perfectly sane… He doesn’t have brain damage and, in fact, he’s a Christian acting out his faith in this fashion.''

talking in the 3rd person.. and plugging your book...

yeah i definitely believe his religion is that of ego and money.
"So, Judge, I appreciate you courtesies in the midst of all this. I think these [Florida Bar] people don’t have any - don’t have a sense of democracy in their bodies. They don’t understand what freedom is about. They don’t understand that the great infringer of freedoms in our nation’s history and world history is government. These people don’t care about that. They care about their view of ethics. They don’t care about the little ones that are harmed by these people through their illegal commercial enterprises."

How is that any different from Thompson own actions... trying to take away other's liberties?
what you was called to do.

you freak.
This was a lot more coherent than I expected it to be.

Emotionally manipulative, but pretty effective. I hope all will go well.
"Judge, I apologize for any unkind comments I’ve had for you about my wife, and your total lack, in my opinion, of appreciation of the fact that to go through a process like this in which your profession is being threatened with being taken from you at the same time that your wife is fighting for her life and that you don’t understand, apparently, Judge, that there are burdens in a situation like that, that it’s almost too much for a body and a person to bear."

So basically his argument is "My wife was sick so that gives me the right to act like a total douchebag?" I also like his arrogant assumption that the Judge doesn't understand what it's like to have a sick family member.

There's also so many lies and misstatements in the whole thing...but I'll leave that to other people to comment about. XD
He just contridicted himself, If he says he has the right to say these things then Rockstar and Take-Two has the right to release any game they want.

JT do NOT compare youself to Jesus it will only make you look more of an ass.

Adding religion to anything is a slippery slope it may help you or will will hurt you. This will hurt JT.

I highly doubt that Jack cares about his wife at all. If she is sick then the right thing to do after losing this is for Jack to take care of her. Jack if you read this, take care of your dying wife....

I guess religion make him say that so-and-so should molest children
I guess religion make him post kiddie porn to judges and lawyer from around the US
I guess religion make him post porn to judges and lawyers from around the US
I guess religion make him say to those that disagree with him "currupt" and "Lie"
I guess religion make him say to those that disagree with him do un-Christian like things like being a bully and cussing
I guess religion make him lie about just about anything
I am not an athist but if you throw the word Religion and "Jesus made me do it" It better be for something a hell of a lot better than this.

Yes Jack Thompon has the right to be a lawyer (even if we don't agree) but Jack time and time again that being a lawyer to a loseing cause can only lead downhill. If Jack was a normal Lawyer he might even be good (notice the word might) but as far as I am concern he need to retire now to not face the harsh facts that is about to be giving to him.
the thing i hate is the fact he picks and chooses which bits of his 'religion' to follow when it suits him.

apparently he can ignore the teachings to treat your neighbour as you would like to be treated, and turning the other cheek, and showing compassion. If hes using religion as a defense he cant pick and choose which bits to apply
My religion demands that I must play Bully extensively. Consequently, Thompson's attempts to have it banned infringe on my religious liberty.
Actually, NovaBlack, that's what religions do.

However, I don't understand Thompson's argument at all. So he can sue against freedom of speech and arts because his religion tells him so? What religion in the world tells people to forbid things to people who are not members of that religion?
Right, Mr. Thompson. You're a christian, so you're allowed to be a complete and utter asshole to people, and everyone else, INCLUDING other Christians, cannot. Right. That sounds SOOOO fair.

"JT: Finally, we get to the last thing, the First Amendment. Did I give you all the Fieger ruling? I know the Judge has it…"

Anyone else misread this as 'Did i give you the finger'?

"Now, there’s been no testimony, no evidence - in my opinion - anywhere in this case, Judge, that I have uttered anything that’s false about Judge Moore or Judge Friedman or that I have uttered what I have said in reckless disregard of the truth or falsity of what I’ve said."

Right, like that other lawyer or whoever it was that you thought was DECEASED.

"So, Judge, this is First Amendment speech. It’s been engaged in to protect the integrity of the judicial process…"

Yes, it gives you the right to speak. But it also gives everyone the right that, if you annoy the bejesus out of them, they can tell you to STFU. Guess you missed that one.

"So my detractors and opponents have the view that they can file Bar complaints against me, threaten to rape my wife, corporately incite the sending of sex products to my wife and me at our home,"

Whoa, wh-ch, wha, whoa, WHAT?? He's crazy...

"Blank Rome, knowing my wife had just had ovarian cancer surgery, sued me with a lawsuit at our house - at our house - knowing she’s stretched out on a couch, unable to move. Ray Reiser had asked them not to bother us at our home, and these people, knowing she had this surgery and is recovering from it, knowing I had a lawyer, Ray Reiser, to accept service, having been told that - my wife, she had to get up off the couch and receive this lawsuit at the door from a process server;"

While i may not know the differences in debilitating effects between a surgery for different cancers, but my mother had several different treatments and surgeries for breast cancer over the past year and a half or so. While its certainly tasking on the body, as far as i could see, it wasn't so tasking that she couldn't walk up to the door of her OWN HOUSE for two seconds to pick up the newspaper or something.

So really, he's trying to throw in the sympathy card that his wife had to lift a finger for almost literally two seconds to get something at the door. BRILLIANT.
I'm sorry, did Jack just say that he was Called By God to do this? Woah... bad point to make in Court.

Are we ever going to see the whole of the texts?
Hhm, the problem is, while his argument was completely irrelevant and pointless, it was still quite good for what it was.
For the first time ever, I reckon he made a good speech.
Hopefully the judge will remember that Thompson's on trial for completely different reasons.
@Jesse

Do we know that she's dying...or just has cancer? I suppose it's possible she has non-terminal cancer, idk. Either way, it doesn't condone being a douche bag to everyone that disagrees with him..
So once again, the sum of Jack's argument is - I'm a Christian, And a much better attorney than all of you put together, so bow down before me! or suffer the terrifying consequences.

Seriously Jack, how many more times do you think that will work?

And using his wife's cancer as a sympathy card? Jack's tactics just got a helluva lot lower. Shame on you. I'm not a Christian, but you give them a very bad name.
It's amazing how he misses the point entirely. He is attempting to make the whole issue into how he has been denied his 1st amendment rights by the florida bar and how they have attacked him for saying things they don't like. Unfortunately for him, this is not the issue at hand. It is not the fact that he spoke out against judges he did not agree with, but HOW he went about it.

There are proper channels to go through with reporting grievances or concerns about officials, and writing nasty, personally hurtful letters and making false statements about those you view as enemies are not the proper channels.

Funny how he claims he has a "duty" to speak out against the "pharisees" as he refers to them. Would he not have a more basic and overriding duty in the commandment "Thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbour"?

Finally, it's disgusting for a lawyer to try and shill his book in his closing argument, and even worse, to play the sympathy card in an effort to make him look like the victim, when it's his unprofessional and vile behaviour that has put him in the position he is in now.
Actually, reading this part - I thought about how it really read:

"I don’t understand what freedom is about. I don’t understand that the great infringer of freedoms in our nation’s history and world history is narrow minded idiots like myself. But I don’t care about that. I care about their view of ethics. I don’t care about the little ones that are harmed by my actions through my frivolous legal enterprises.”
I just hope this ends with him disbarred, his conduct in a defense of his conduct was a comical irony in itself.

By the way, does anyone know the reletive date when the judge might give a decision?
It really bugs me when Thompson uses the bible and Jesus to defend himself and his actions. I may not be the most practicing Catholic but Thompson is the biggest hypocrite there could possibley be and seeing someone like him quote biblical text just...
He wanted his BOOK submitted as evidence? Would he supply it or would the court have to buy their own copy?

Ovarian cancer, whilst a nasty thing, is not the most complicated of cancers to treat. My sister had uterine cancer and she was very fatigued from the radiation therapy but managed a normal life throughout. Either way, using that as a way of gaining points is a pretty disrespectful & manipulative thing to do. Wonder if he'd have done it if the judge was male or if he's trying to make Tunis think "Hey, I have ovaries, it could have been me!"? Lets all hope that Mrs T has/will recover from this.

Damnit! I shouldn't have shortened her surname, now all I can see in my mind is jack thompson coming home at the end of the day to greet his wife, Mr T in a frumpy dress & badly plastered on makeup... A fool I would truly pity.


@GP
Will we get to hear Tuma's closing argument as well or is the written statement not part of the transcript you got?


@DavCube
“So my detractors and opponents have the view that they can file Bar complaints against me, threaten to rape my wife, corporately incite the sending of sex products to my wife and me at our home,”

Whoa, wh-ch, wha, whoa, WHAT?? He’s crazy…


Not only that, it's poor grammar. He should have said "My wife and I"

@SeanB
Are we ever going to see the whole of the texts?
GP said that we might get them after this article series is over, its a hell of a lot of work to scan all those pages.
Jack really does have a martyr complex... which is amusing given the way he harasses anyone he disagrees with.

It does look like the Fieger case may get him off the hook for some of his bad behaviour, so at least that's a coherent argument. The problem of course is the Fieger comments don't sound like they amounted to anything like the kind of persistent and wide ranging hate campaign Jack conducts. Moreover, and even more critically, the Fieger ruling certainly does not get him off the hook regarding accusations of trial fixing (as GP mentions). All in all, it doesn't sound hopeful for Jack.

BTW did you guys know he wrote a book!? Love the way he slips that in there :D

Gift.
I'm worried.

I really don't think he'll be disbarred people. I think the games he has played, espically in regards Judge Tunis' oath (how pathetic), and his performance against Judge Friedman, as well as this mostly coherent, though rampantly self obsessed, closing arguement might tip the favour.

Dennis, whats your gut feeling? Have you spoken to any lawyer about this? How do they feel? (is it bad form to ask dennis questions like this?)

Personally, i'm disgusted by how he has manipulated facts and twisted events to suit himself, but i'm informed of all of his tricks. Judge Tunis, however, will be unaware of his lies.

Like i said, i'm worried

GP: I think Judge Tunis, both through the testimony at the Bar trial, as well as the various suits and complaints and criticisms Thompson has thrown at her has a pretty good idea of who JT is and what he's about.

I do expect that she will recommend he be disbarred. That said, I also expect that he will do everything he can to delay, block or legally challenge any such recommendation.
Umm... freedom of religion doesn't allow one to violate legal rulings, or harass other lawyers/judges. Sorry, that's not how it works. Bad lawyer, no cookie.
What the hell was that?

Yet again he seems confused as to why he's on trial.He's not on trial because he's saying unpopular things. He's on trial for acting like a petulant child unbecoming of an attorney.

Not only that, but right in the beginning he said it himself. He's going to continue acting the way he does no matter what.

If I was the judge on this case, I'd have issues my ruling immediately after closing arguments and disbarred Jackhole right there. He didn't put up a defense at all.
@chadachada:

I believe in another segment, he mentions his wife's potentially terminal cancer.

JT: "... I’m simply making the argument, Judge, that my motivations - which I have tried to make clear, maybe to the point of nausea - are religious and that my efforts against the distribution of adult material, pornographic material, violent material, adult rated material to children is violative of the law as well as violative of Scripture."

Motivation isn't what this is about. It's practice. It's not even practice of religion. It's practice of law.

JT: "'... A. we think you may have brain damage; and, B, we believe your obsession with photography -” they meant against pornography “- is so severe that you are mentally incapacitated by virtue of that disability and unfit to practice law.'"

As for point B: No. I think they meant obsession with photography. It's proven you are obsessed with photos if, for nothing else, you decide to send photos in your e-mails, and in your filings with the court system. One "children's book for adults" comes to mind at this point.

As for pornography, you appear to be obsessed with that as well, hence the filing of a gay porn picture to the courts at one pont. You try to shroud your obsessions under the guise of "religion tells me to do so," but it's the frequency at which you mention these.

JT: "... As I recounted in my book… they found that Jack Thompson is perfectly sane… He doesn’t have brain damage and, in fact, he’s a Christian acting out his faith in this fashion."

I wouldn't say "perfectly" in this case. Sane? That point I'll cover in a bit. There's no way you're "perfectly" sane. If you were, you wouldn't have been sanctioned by SCOFLA because of frivelous and improper filings.

JT: "... When you’ve got hypocrites… then I have a right - in fact, I have duty, as Jesus did, the confront the Pharisees and say: “You are hypocrites. You are liars. You are whited sepulchers. You’re in a den of thieves,” and so forth…"

Didn't anyone ever tell you that being licensed isn't a right but a priveledge? That's all I heard about getting a driver's license growing up. The concept is the same here. And let me make this perfectly clear. Your words and actions in these hearings as well as other moments while practicing law suggest that you are a hypocrite and a liar yourself. There are times when you think you're using hyperbole, but some of those instances, you out and out lie.

JT: "...I asked you, Judge, at the outset: Will they please disclose to me what in the world their position is as to my mental health. They wouldn’t do that and yet they required the resolution of this matter with a demand that after I’d pled guilty to all these things, I’d then have to submit to a mental health exam. That’s what they said, knowing my motivation is religious…"

You're wicky in the wacky woo. That's their position. Again, it's not a matter of motivation. It's a matter of practice. There's a reason there's a separation of Church and State.

I have to laugh at this next bit...

JT: "... Then I submit to them the psychological forensic evaluation of me by Dr. Oren Wunderman, who’s used by the Florida Bar because they considered him an expert… and he said: 'Look. This guy’s a competent attorney. He’s, in effect, under attack by people who don’t like what he’s doing and his religious faith not only animates what he does, but also enriches his practice of law and enriches his capabilities as a lawyer…'"

You may have been competent in '92. You don't appear to be anymore. It is true that many, many people don't like what you're doing there, Mr. Thompson, but don't let that confuse the issue at hand. It is your antics, not your faith, that's on trial here.

I'm tired of quoting, but the second part (and segued into the third part) pretty much says they're infringing on his First Amendment rights. Again, that's not what's on trial here. It's the professionalism and decorum while practicing law that is. Again, having a license is a priveledge, not a right... and it is shown here that you have abused that priveledge several times over.
Okay, so help me out here (for I, admittedly, am not a lawyer). With all of Jack's usual paranoid conspiracy theories and messianistic jibber-jabber... exactly how relevant is all this to the hearing at hand? I didn't see where he was claiming to have been provoked into acting like a spoiled child and becoming a fax-murderer... the only thing I really noticed was at the end where he said his actions had no relevance to his status as a lawyer. Is that the crux of his arguement, or am I missing something?
@paul

You'd think even any half-good judge knows when someone tries to buy symphaty points with a pretty speech. Don't know how it works if you make youself look like an ass instead...

Even this text, that has to be much, much more charming than most of the stuff he has said, has more than couple parts that rub you most sane people the wrong way...

He claims his opposers have threatened to rape his wife? It figures some random idiot has, considering how much of an asshole the guy is, but the same ones who have filed complaints about him? Can't possibly be a good move to imply so... Though it sounds like that, it's more likely that he just puts all his opposers in the same box, that works single mindedly to take him down. Too bad he didn't go deeper into that conspiracy, isn't it?
Jacko, when you piss off people at the rate you do, there has to be no plan to put you down. It's you who is organizing all the hate towards yourself, not the people who hate you. That's what happens when you let the whole world know you're an asshole.

And he compares himself to Jesus? He was close to doing it before, I must admit I hoped he would do it again bit more drastically... Looks I got my wish.
Never ever compare yourself to Jesus. It might work as joke when you act ridiculously egoistic on purpose, to get a few laughs with your friends, but it sure as hell won't work in a court room.

The whole thing of religion just stinks mile away. You can't do ANYTHING under the cloak of faith.

And the First Amendment... From what I've gathered, lawyers do have their own set of rules they need to follow, so it really doesn't work that way. But hey, he can complain when they take his license away. He'll have the full freedom of speech then.
Besides (while I don't know the system there), there has to be other ways to complain that send countless of insulting letters, not to mention, makes both insulting and false claims of these people more or less public.

There's no way he can get away with that.
Gift:

The Fieger case doesn't get him off the hook. If anything, he should get the hook for misrepresenting to the court the holding in Feiger. The Fieger case was an apple. Jack's case is an orange.
He's thanking the Court (and thus the Judge) Repeatedly for their time, and yet he's filing motions to see Dava Tunis thrown off the case?

I CALL BULLSHIT!
@paul:
the man is good at twisting thing true, and he gets out of alot because he can paint a lie as truth unless you know the truth then his lies look poorly constructed
my gut says nothing neither yes, neither no (even thou you asked dennis)
however Judge Turnis seems to be taking the max ammount of time before ruleing on the matter, and that means the judge is waiding through all the evedence submited, the courts notes, her notes, the record, and hopefuly doing research.
as to the oath thing if and only if it works (Judge Turnis did seem to give JT some leeway and ground to scamper about on aka a bit of preferental treatment to jack otherwise he would have been nailed on all the rules of conduct, etc that he breeched (includeing giveing the presideing judge lots of lip)) it will work only once. He may get retrialed with another judge (who will probably not be so nice and forgiving), but if he attempts the same crud again im sure he would get hoisted for delaying the legal prosses.

no im not in the legal profession so i have no clue about the subtelty's of law that jack seems weild with all the grace of a riverdanceing sloth having a seisure, but im sure that law is ment to be used more like a olympic fencing match.
@Jack Thompson:

If you're saying that because you take a client's matter pro bono, you're not, in handling that matter, still subject to the Bar's Rules of Conduct, then you are more ignorant than I had imagined. That don't even get you a "nice try."
So, his defense is "I'm religious, I can do whatever I want" and "This is a criminal libel case"

Except his religion says to love every man, and this is neither a criminal, nor a libel case. He really is in his completely own world isn't he?
Coherent agrument? Ha!! When you can't keep straight the difference between "in camera" and "ex parte," you get no coherency points. Not in my book.
Well, that was, Disturbing.

Not to be mean, but that was about the most pandering thing I've ever seen. it's also very strange to hear him bitch and whine about his Rights and his Liberties while he spends his life attacking the rights and liberties of others.

Dennis, I can only assume that your wrap up will hopefully include the closing arguments from the other side?

Good work but dang, is it just me, or does this guy really seem to be hiding his panic?

GP: Yuki, the Bar had no verbal closing. They submitted it in writing to the Judge.
@chadachada

We don't know that she is dying but if someone has cancer or something like it it's best to take care of him or her instead of doing something eles major.
He doesn't get it, does he?? I find myself wondering if he feels he has any professional obligations at all as a function of his station. If he feels some obligation to protest certain issues, he should do so; but if he were CIVIL about it, he would be well within his rights. What I don't quite understand is how he thinks he's helping his own case. If he really cares about the issues he protests, he must know that leaving a line of pissed-off-judges in his wake will not help him advance his own agenda. There is value in biting your tongue.

Something about all the scripture nonsense really doesn't sit right with me. I'm not an overly religious person, nor do I know much about the bible, but quoting one comment where Jesus talks about drowing people strikes me as..questionable. I suspect Jesus might have understood that sometimes discretion is the better part of valor.
I hope Judge Tunis' Report says something to the effect of:

Respondent asserts that, regardless of the outcome in this matter, he will continue his present conduct unabated. That may be both Respondent's choice and right. However, it is my recommendation that Respondent's future conduct does not bear the imprimatur of the Florida Bar.
If he really wanted to be like Jesus he'd be more two-fisted about it. Jesus didn't send faxes to the moneychangers until they left the temple because he broke their machine.
Too bad jack-jack's such a coward that he can't even be a _real_ religious nut.
There's a bit of a problem in his using of the Fieger thing, at least as far as I understand it.

Geoffery Fieger (let me be clear in that I'm no fan of the guy) said what he did in the capcity of his job as a radio show host. While he is indeed a lawyer and certain standards of behaviour do apply, they only apply when he's actually acting as a lawyer.

Evey single one of Thompson's bad behaviours have been commited while he has been acting as a lawyer. It would appear, based on that, that the bar standards would apply.
"If this Court finds… If this Court wants to act upon their suggestion that you can find me guilty… for things that don’t even involve the practice of law, then I will go on with my life… we’ll just have to deal with that and we’ll move on and we’ll get a remedy in another venue [i.e. - the federal court system]"

in other words...... "it doesn't matter what happens here, I'll still escalate this as high as I can"
@GP:

I assume Jack previously presented evidence to support his closing "private attorney general with a pro bono client" argument and that's why Bar Counsel wasn't leaping to her feet, shouting, "Objection!"

GP: Not having seen his testimony, I can't say. But that was always the operative theory in his drive to have Bully declared a public nuisance. I think the law itself is well-established, but is typically applied to environmental issues.
I believe Mr. Thompson played his hand well. I've been following the series (Awesome job GP), and seen a lot of criticism about his legal...umm...tactics (line of questioning, arguments, evidence).

However, all of his effort has tied in kind of nicely with his closing argument. When it comes to his own self defense, he is kind of consistent, neh?

He usually is able to justify his means through his religious beliefs, pity, martyrdom, passion, and personal strife. This has worked for him in the past, so again, pretty well played. Without emphasis on specific events,he is using the 1st Amendment and his crusade to defend his vitriolic attacks on those who have opposed him or ruled against him.

So, this is a conduct hearing. He has presented his argument defending his conduct, and his case isn't as weak as some think because it has worked for him before. However, the mountain of evidence and witnesses leveraged against him also presents a very strong case for misconduct. I'll hold back my prediction of the outcome until the official ruling is released.
@jkdjr25:

The Fieger case held that the language of the Michigan Bar Rule regarding statements critical of the judiciary was unconstitutionally vague and overbroad. The Florida Bar's functionally equivalent Rule employs language totally different from Michigan's Rule and is not, in my opinion, either unconstitutionally vague or overbroad. In the Fieger case, Fieger's conduct wasn't approved by the court but, rather, the Michigan Rule that Fieger allegedly violated was disapproved -- a subtle but important difference.
For all who think Jack did a good job, I can only say that if my license hung in the balance and I hired Jack to defend me and the best he could do on closing is spew drivel all over the courtroom floor, he'd haffa gimme summa my money back -- or else.
I was thinking he'd pin his misconduct on some ethical obligation to act the way he acted. Turns out I was wrong; seems it's a religious imperative.

I like "ethical imperative" better. Cleaner and more clinical, not as touchy-feely.
@JDKJ

I'm sure he equates ethics and religion anyway.
jack thompson's internal thoughts



Oh god they can't do this my lively hood is gone....money need money......BUY MY BOOK..........wait cancer everyone feels sorry for cancer.....MY WIFE HAS CANCER.......and mocking the judges court and bailiff? I wish you were less kind and more fair? all i have to say is WTF?! it has been almost 5 months since the proceedings and the judge still hasn't come up with what todo? is the judge trying to read ever fax email court filing that thompson has ever done?
So in Jacko's world Being Christian = I get to act like a douchebag.

Reading this it seems clear that Jacko clearly has no idea why he is in trouble. He lacks a fundamental understanding of the problem. He seems to think that this is about whether or not he can defend himself from these evil wrongdoers when in reality it is whether or not he is acting like an ass.

Before reading this I thought Jacko would get a slap on the wrist. Now, I'm not so sure because he so completely failed to defend himself. I find it hard to believe that the judge won't take his fundamental failure to understand why he's in trouble into account.
OMFG I think I just figured Jack's motivation out:

Somewhere in the Gospels it mentions the Roman soldiers who crucified Jesus, throwing dice to see who gets his garments. See where I'm going? Those soldiers were playing a game -- They were early gamers! Gamers crucified Jack Thompson's Lord and Savior, THAT'S why he hates us all so much! Am I onto you, Jack?
@JDKJ: Opposing counsel's right to object is extremely limited during closing arguments, which is a better reason why bar counsel didn't object to anything.
@1AgainstTheWorld:

To use a line from Bully which uses a term from D&D: "Aaah! Critical Hit!"
@Jack Thompson:

Put down the Bible. Pick up a book of laws. Start with the Florida Bar Rules of Conduct.
Hmm... I must still be missing something since it seems that his defense somehow relies on "ability to practice law" == "freedom of speech," but I'm trying all sorts of comparisons and nothing has worked yet.

@JT,

I certainly hope that if you read this you actually listen, as I recommend that you re-read the bible a few times and learn that if you're going to call yourself a Christian you don't get to pick and choose which parts you pay attention to. Remember to pay attention to what you read in there too. All too often in the fanatical factions of Christianity members not only pick and choose what they listen to, they also pick and choose what it means and who it applies to (generally holding themselves faultless no matter what they do, while condemning anyone else for even breathing on the sabbath in a way the fanatic doesn't like). You and your kind are in no way Christian, but you sure do make great servants of whatever evil force there may be in the universe. While not a Christian anymore myself, I still feel offended for them every time I see one of your ilk giving all of Christianity a bad name, so for the good Christians that are out there please consider becoming a true Christian yourself.

In regards to your case, it appears that you're trying about the same thing you've done every time you've lost in the past, so how on Earth do you think it's going to suddenly and magically work this time? Sure there are some differences, but not enough to really make this a different defense than what you've tried offensively in the past, though I do have to congratulate you on your fairly coherent closing, given your track record it surprised me to see it.

@ everyone else,

Has anyone seen JT cry or show other powerful emotions? I'm pretty sure that a sign of being a sociopath is lack of these emotions (if I recall from my psychology classes and books correctly), though I've also heard of ones that can emulate emotions at will to "fit in" and better manipulate others. I mainly ask this since most of the transcripts in this series, along with everything else he's done that I know of, makes a strong case that he maybe a sociopath. The harassment and lack of compassion for other people along with claiming persecution whenever things don't go his way all point to this possibility.
Wait, the Bar's closing statements are going to be the last one? Why haven't we heard from Jack's testimonies? If anything his unapologetic zeal would be some of the best evidence against him- aren't we going to get to see any of it?

GP: JT testified, as I understand it for five days straight. He had no witnesses. I have also heard, but cannot confirm, that much of this consisted of reading things. I did not see that as a productive use of the space here. In addition, there is a cost in obtaining each of the transcripts.

We also did not present the testimony of a couple of non-game related witnesses for the prosecution. While probably damaging to JT, they just weren't relevant to the GP coverage.

I believe that we have fairly presented his cross-examination of the five witnesses as well as quoted his closing argument extensively.
@GetWellGamers:

Seems the Bar submitted their arguments in writing. Therefore, they wouldn't appear in GP's transcripts.
i like how he defends himself with the first amendment and claims it protects his frivolous attacks on these people with insults and constant badgering.
but then he himself does the exact same as they are, and presses charges against any and all who would disagree and insult him in some way.
Pop him a single email calling him an idiot and your immediately hunted by law enforcement and charged with harassment as he himself has stated he does with those e-mails. but its okay for him to do that, its all good? just because his religion makes him do it?
I don't believe for one moment religion has anything to do with it besides being his aliby to try and look like the good guy (playing the religious bill is just like bush talking about his religious duties to the voters)
what i find additionally funny is outside of a few other activist lawyers and a small group within, most religious outlets, churches, patrons and so on, have all but pushed Thompson aside as a self proclaimed wannabe.
They themselves play Halo 3 in church!
I still don't see how he can use incomplete data to make his games cause violence case.
when theres more solid evidence all over to the opposite of his claim. (look at the crime rates! they've DECLINED since vid games were introduced. Though more open "slaughters" of the sort have become rampant, anyone ever bother thinking how its glorified by the media as being the best way to get yer name known for a week if yer suicidal and feel alone?)
Jack could easily have followed what he believed to be his religious belief without behaving like a petulant 6 years-old or filing spurious legal complaints all over the place. God didn't make him do that, he did, he can hide behind God and his personal problems all he likes, but that doesn't change the fact the he chose to act in such an infantile manner.

He just cannot seem to get his head around the idea that it was his actions, not his beliefs, that got him into trouble.

Ah well, from the look of that closing statement, we won't have to worry about him as a lawyer any more.
Oh, that's about the WORST thing he can say. What's driving him is his /religion/? Yeah, right, more like abusing it. I can only see this turning out 1 way...
I didn't hear him discuss religion at all previously, why does it come up now?
You know, one of the first things you're told when you take a job, any job, is that your personal beliefs are not allowed to influence your professional conduct. In other words: when you come in to work, check your religion at the door. This is rule applies whether you're an employee at McDonald's or at a major credit card company. Breaking it goes against policy and it is something taken very seriously by all companies. And I believe it holds true for public officials as well.

Jack does not seem to understand this and never has. Being a Christian has nothing to do with your status as a lawyer. Nor does it automatically give you the God-given right to "beat your drum in the public square" as he's often put it, force your religion and brand of morality down everyone's throat through litigation and otherwise act in a disrespectful manner to those who don't live up to your moral criteria (which in Jack's case would apparently include just about everyone). It is for these reasons he should be disbarred. To put it succinctly and to reiterate, the 1st Amendment only goes so far; as a professional you are beheld to a certain level of conduct. Part of that conduct involves not allowing your personal beliefs to color and/or influence said conduct and does not protect you. I'm surprised he never realized this and hias twisted the law around to justify it.
JT's next book should be "One Angry Man." I think a more suitable closing argument would've been to address everything brought up in court in and justify them as to the ethical practice of law. After all, that's why he was there. Mentioning cases all over the country that had nothing to do with his hearing was not very coherent.
@GoodRobotUs,

Good point, I never really consciously made that connection, but it is true. JT has a complete inability to realize that it's his actions and not his beliefs that he's in trouble for. While his closing statement was more coherent than normal, it still doesn't change the fact that it was mostly unrelated to actually defending himself, so I agree that we won't have to worry about him as a lawyer much longer.
Objection!

He's taking the Bible out of context! After all, I'm sure the entire document wasn't submitted as evidence...

@me:

He actually did mention religion during his cross examination of Ms. Ward in Part 5.
Then I submit to them the psychological forensic evaluation of me by Dr. Oren Wunderman, who’s used by the Florida Bar because they considered him an expert…

Wait... Dr. Wunderman wasn't used by the bar. He was chosen by Jack because he was a family friend and attends the same church as Jack. (I'm pulling this from memory, so if I'm wrong let me know.)

It seems to me that at every turn, Jack tries to lie a little bit more, like a fisherman retelling the story of the fish he almost caught.

He is constantly lying more and more, and yet proclaims to be Christian. He is trying to pull out claims of pettyness and such that we have only seen in him. Come on, the idea that they served him at his home because they knew that his wife would be home alone with bedrest and unable to get up? That is a rediculous accusation. It's like he thinks people sit around and try to think up stuff, as if the lawyers said, "We need to serve him this lawsuit, but we must think of the way to cause the most pain to his family in the process. Until the R&D dept comes up with the papers with razor blades embeded, the best I can think of is to..."

Even in his closing statements, he tries to play the martyr, tries to play the First Admendment card, claiming that he is the only one who is allowed to it because he is the only perfect one.

Also, he seems to forget that there is a difference between free speech and harrasment. He was harrassing anyone who stood against him. He claimed he was exercizing free speach and free religion, he might as well have just said they were "Fair Game". And now this Judge is experiencing the same thing.

SPeaking of which, he knows he is in trouble, which is why he is trying this F.B.I. thing. He is claiming that the Judge having the signature forged (as told by an unlicenced amature forensic hobbiest who has had their testimony thrown out of court) means they don't have the right to pass judgement. But the logic is missing. What did they have to gain by faking a signature? Did the judge have some sort of sleeping sickness they had to cover up? In short, he is trying everything he can do to derail his disbarrment.

I'm afraid any parties you have planned for when the sentence is passed will be premature. You already know he will do everything he can to go up the chain of appeals. And he will be preaching intollerance and trying to grab the limelight as much as he can, meanwhile waiting for someone to get hurt so he can rush to their families aid by claiming that all of their problems are caused by thetan... I mean video games.
@Jack Thompson, who stated in closing:

"Then I submit to them the psychological forensic evaluation of me by Dr. Oren Wunderman, who’s used by the Florida Bar because they considered him an expert… and he said: “Look. This guy’s a competent attorney. He’s, in effect, under attack by people who don’t like what he’s doing and his religious faith not only animates what he does, but also enriches his practice of law and enriches his capabilities as a lawyer…”

Jack, where does Dr. Wunderman's evaluation, whether expressly or impliedly, say anything of the sort?

There's this thing called "The Truth," Jack. You may do well to one day acquaint yourself with the concept.
"JT: My book, which you wouldn’t allow into evidence, recounts the efforts - past efforts - of the Florida Bar to improperly discipline me, which resulted in the payment of damages and so forth… That’s in evidence by the virtue of my testimony."

So the court wouldn't allow a book, written by a person who spent 9 days spinning yarns of vast conspiracies against him because he belonged to the most popular religion in the world, into evidence? Good job, court system isn't broken after all.
@ Ragnaar

OVER RULED!


So let me understand this.

He's on trial and I'll sum it all up in a single word, Asshatery. (If that word isn't in the dictionary I'm copywriting that.) But through out the trial he tries to bring Take Two into the trial. Brags in front of the judge that he told a witness to "Go Fuck themself" And questions witnesses about non sense crap that has nothing to do with the trial. Then has a closing aruement that sounds like "I'm chatolic so there for I'm god soldier and your all going to hell!"

Did I understand all this correctly?
Shouldn't the Bar lawyer have called out Jack on his lies about the psych exam? Or is there no "Objection, he's lying"? I certainly hope not, and I also hope that the actual documents are included in the evidence for the judge to see how badly JT was lying at that point.
So, to sum up Jack's argument:

1) He's not guilty because God told him to act like a jackass.
2) His wife has cancer.
3) No, U!

Did I miss anything?
I've figured it out... this is Moby Dick.

JT = Captain Ahab
White Whale = video games

Okay, so it's not quite like Moby Dick...
The thing is, if I were a lawyer, with my current personal belief that religion is a personal thing, not something you force upon those around you, and started posting these spurious accusations and insults, not as an opinion piece on a Radio Show, but as a Press Release, then I would be looking at disbarment.

That closing statement isn't saying 'I'm being persecuted because of my religion', it basically says, 'I should be allowed to do things that would get an atheist lawyer fired, because I'm a Christian.'

He's demanding that the rules be relaxed because he is religious, but trying to dress it up as persecution.
You know how Jack likes to quote the bible at the end of his harrasments? I have a quote for him:
2 Corinthians 11:13; "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ."

I just think it's an appropriate line.
@Jack Thompson:

Just because Dr. Wunderman was willing to subject his professional reputation to public scorn by erroniously concluding that you suffer from no mental impairments which would effect your ability to practice law does not at all force the conclusion that you are a competent attorney. Dr. Wunderman is not an attorney nor did he subject you to the Bar's skill and knowledge examination. He is completely unqualified to render an opinion as to whether or not you are a competent attorney. And, perhaps accordingly, his evaluation of you reports no such thing.
@Ebonheart,

Basically, as far as I can divine from all this, yes you are correct, though he's also working on the "me practicing law == my first amendment right" fairly ineffectively. He's also playing for sympathy in his closing, but from my understanding when being served with something it has to have a copy goto your house directly so they can be sure that you received it in a timely manner, so his sympathy ploy basically equates to "they did what they were supposed to do while my wife was recovering so shame on them."
Dennis, thanks for answering my question, and thanks for taking the time to do this.

Judging from the hundreds of comments on each segment, its clear just how important this is to gamers.

Personally, i find the man morally repugnant, and i can only hope that Judge Tunis can see the man as he really is, a vicious, twisted creature, who cannot abide anyone or anything that does not meet his criteria of 'good'

@Mogbert
An excellent retort to Jack.
I couldn't keep reading after the third paragraph. I swear that guy just loves to hear himself talk.
Ix:

I think it's clear for all to see that Jack's the kinda guy who would take advantage of an opponent's wife having cancer in order to say, "See, that's God's retribution raining down on you for distributing a pornographic murder-simulator." Sympathy for Jack? Ha! About as likely as sympathy for the Devil.
So my interpretation of his entire closing argument is this:

JT: It's my first amendment right to violate your [gamers] first amendment rights.
GP -

You should write a book detailing this guy and the fun you've been able to have weaved into your life for reporting on, and having contact with him.

I think it would be a good read.
@jds:

I beat him to it. And got a copyright to prove it. But I do mention GP frequently and in glowing terms. :)
"Little Ones" in the bible does not mean children. Jesus was talking about weak believers and the path to redemption, and how those in the place of redemption (i.e. the apostles) should not hinder a believers ability to repent. Children were irrelevant in the matter.
Furthermore, Mr. Thompson is arguing that his crusade is religiously motivated, but time after time he has been on hand during tragedies to whisper poisoned words of lawsuits and multimillion dollar settlements. I believe there was a line about the merchants in the temple from that book he enjoys so. Care to postulate on the peddling of his wares in tattered and shabby robes?
@JDKJ,

Yes, I'm well aware that he's not getting any sympathy from it, and I agree that he is the sort of person who would claim it was divine judgment against an opponent who either they, or their spouse, gets cancer. This however is not the reason why he's not going to get any sympathy for his point, he gets none since he it seems to me he's saying exactly what I quoted above, "They did what they were supposed to do while my wife was sick so shame on them," which has no ability to garner sympathy from really anyone towards him. Maybe a bit for his wife, but none for him since his argument for getting it is completely wrong.
@Ghost Coins:

My favorite was his allusion to Matthew 23:27 (Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which on the outside appear beautiful, but inside they are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness.). That's Jack-O in a nutshell.
Best wishes to Mrs. Thompson. I hope you have a complete recovery, but your husband is still nuts.
JDKJ (Re: Mat23:27)
The irony is palpable.
*headdesk* I know many, many christians, some of whom are very concervative, who still manage to behave in a reasonable and polite manner even when confronting things they are quite against.

So I would say his religious freedom argument falls pretty flat.

@Ghost Coins

Somehow I doubt JT is actually all that familiar with bibilical issues. He seem the type to cherry pick quotes that he hears without any real understanding of them.
@Phalanx

Hear Hear!

Let's prove that we aren't satanistic murdering perverts, as Jack claims. Not that it'll make any difference to him.

So yeah, to Mrs Thompson, I wish you a speedy recovery.
@phalanx

I have the same sentiment for the wife.... but calling the husband nuts is like calling a hurricane a light drizzle, and even then the magnitude of insanity is still pretty unreal.

GP: Major agreement on the recovery wishes to Mrs. JT (who is a partner in a major Miami firm herself)... I have studiously avoided mention of this on GP as I don't believe it is appropriate to drag families in. However, since he made it a significant part of his close, I could not justify leaving it out.
I honestly still have this sinking suspicion that Jack Thompson still isn't going to be disbarred. It sucks to say, but I really just have a hard time imagining it happening, especially when he's hiding behind religion.
If he were up in front of a disciplinary board for timekeeping, productivity, or falling asleep at his desk and he used the fact he was caring for his wife as a defence, then that, to me, would be perfectly acceptable defence.

Still not sure I buy the 'I've been sending people 10-20 Emails a day and being even more prolific as a censor and hippocrite, but you should let me off because you pulled me up on it when my wife was ill' really cuts the biscuit. As sorry as I feel for his wifes' illness, and I wish her a speedy and full recovery, I simply cannot see how this defence is supposed to work.

I lost an uncle some months ago to Motor Neuron Disease, and that, I can assure you, is no way to go, in the end, your lungs end up not receiving the message that says 'breath', I was pretty torn up about it, had some problems getting motivated for work, and was generally irritable. Work were very good about it, but had I started behaving as Jack does, making official statements that people around me are 'crooks, murderers and paedophiles', then I would at least have been looking at forced medical suspension and the requirement of bereavement therapy before I returned. My job isn't nearly as responsible or 'visible' as that of a lawyer, but there are standards and requirements at all levels of employment.

Had I kept that behaviour up for over 2 decades, however, far longer than my partner had unfortunately been ill for.....
@Ghost Coins,

Hmm... yes, something about Christ kicking them out and I believe condemning them? It's been a while since I last read that particular part, but I'm pretty sure it had something about people who set themselves up to profit by using the church have a special place down below for them. Claiming a crusade and all, then seeking enormous sums of money that'll mostly goto himself seems even worse than the merchants and moneychangers in the temple, which themselves were bad enough that Christ actually got angry and violent. Were I still Christian, I'd say your salvation is not at all in question JT, it's already clear that you're trying to and have set yourself up to burn for all time based on your supposed beliefs. Heck even as someone no longer in that faith, just by past knowledge of it, I'd still be able to say that with confidence based on your actions.

Also, while your point about "little ones" is very true, it does also mean children at the same time, being one of the parables with multiple meanings to interpret from it. Children require guidance in religion and the ways of the world, at least as much as someone of weak faith, as both have little experience with divine matters and can easily be convinced of many things should an adult who appears to have authority say them. Though I must disclaim that I don't agree with the indoctrination methods of teaching only one religion to a child and telling them it's right before they're even old enough to make decisions like that on their own, the fact still remains that they need moral guidance in their early age and any religion worth calling a religion will provide that.
I've only gotten half-way through, but what I've seen can be summed up in one word...sound...whatever...

BWAAAHH?!?

Where in his trial, of what we've seen did he ever, ever, ever, mention that this was a religious issue?
Blank Rome, knowing my wife had just had ovarian cancer surgery, sued me with a lawsuit at our house - at our house - knowing she’s stretched out on a couch, unable to move. Ray Reiser had asked them not to bother us at our home, and these people, knowing she had this surgery and is recovering from it, knowing I had a lawyer, Ray Reiser, to accept service, having been told that - my wife, she had to get up off the couch and receive this lawsuit at the door from a process server; and they knew it and they did it on purpose.

Actually, no they wouldn't have known. They aren't medical folk, they're legal folk. They wouldn't know when her surgery was, how long after it she'd be ambulatory, and so forth. Plus as I recall at the time you complained that your teenaged son had to accept the serving, so which is it him or your wife? Not that it's a particularly taxing thing to do in any case. Rather like signing for delivery of a parcel unless I'm mistaken. Certainly it wouldn't tax most cancer patient that I've known.
Yes, being a Christian allows you to believe in your faith and god,

You are entitled to it, also other people with different religions are also entitled to their own beliefs and religion,

But being a Christian, it DOES NOT allow you to bash homosexuals, rape children, or blame Videogames for Violent actions without having the evidence to back you up.

Also if Jesus was walking on earth today, he will be so embarressed by your comments that he will be entitled to have his say, and that is to say that no one else is Jesus except for the son of God.

So Jack, mate...you are NOT Jesus...
Acting out of religion doesn't absolve you of your inappropriate comments, Jack.
I'm taking a step back to comment on his mention of his wife.

It's not that he's complaining at the timing. He's complaining that they didn't go to their family lawyer with the papers. I could be wrong, but don't the papers need to be brought to the individual who's being sued anyway, even if they have representation?

I do wish her well (I know the transcript is of hearings that took place a couple months ago, so here's hoping she is and continues to be well).
The old.. "Jesus made me do it, defense".. god call, Jackie.
@JackDon'tKnowJack

"The Fieger case doesn’t get him off the hook. If anything, he should get the hook for misrepresenting to the court the holding in Feiger. The Fieger case was an apple. Jack’s case is an orange."

Heh, I might have guessed he wasn't being truthful. I'm not a lawyer though, so could you explain the difference please? I'd be interested to know what the Fieger case was really about. (Don't worry if it'll be a bit of a hassle though.)

Gift.
@Ragnaar

I'd also normally be inclined to avoid mentioning his family, if, however, he chooses to bring them into the proceedings as part of his defence, then I think it is ok to comment on it insofar as the comments are restricted to objective opinion on it with relation to the case, and not subjective opinion of the individuals involved.
consistency- its only a virtue if your not a skrewup. jacko has been way to consistent
@ Ix

In other words everyone is going "WTF is he talking about?" as well. Becuase I have no idea what in the hell he is trying to prove.
While i am no longer a practicing christian (in the sense that i no longer attend mass every week, or pray regularly), i was brought up as such. And what that taught me was that in all things, you need to treat your fellow man with respect, regardless of your own feelings towards them.

Nowhere is this more true than in a court of law, where only the rules set out by your country apply and no other things matter, not even religion or ones own feelings on the matter at hand.

Using religion, christianity in this case, as an argument for what can only be seen as the deepest of disrespect towards those who have differing opinions to your own is possibly one of the gravest deviations from the teachings i can imagine.
With your actions you have tried time and again to ruin the life of those you oppose, which is not what the bible teaches us, no matter how you twist its contents. I hope you will realise this once this is over.

Your attempts to influence the court by playing on its emotions and feelings of decency are also signs of your weakness mr. Thompson, in a court of law, it is facts and facts alone that are relevant, emotions have no purpose there. And i admit you have given preciously few facts that your actions were not breaking the rules of the Florida Bar, rules to which you yourself agreed to be kept when you received your license from them.

I see only one end in this mr. Thompson and that will be with your disbarment.
@Ebonheart,

Yup, you got it in one. No one has so far found anything legitimate to his defense that I know of. I believe even a few lawyers came on in one of the earlier parts (part 6 maybe? not sure which one it was) of this series and agreed that he's done nothing that actually defends his actions.
100% Chewbacca.
Personally I think it's funny that he is now trying to characterize himself as some sort of champion of the First Amendment (where was that argument throughout the rest of this trial? And where was the religious argument? He seems to have concocted those just for the closing statement and nothing else...), and meanwhile his entire career is based around stifling T2 and R*'s First Amendment rights. He's a major hypocrite.
I think I see where he's going in his defense: Yes, he's an ass, and yes, he's said some mean stuff, but in his defense, the actions are a) outside the court or b) retaliatory remarks at grievances against him.

Very nice, indeed. But how would that actually hold against the judge? Seems to me it would be irrelevant.
Yes, there's an epic level of hypocrisy in his First Amendment defense, since if it applies to everything he's done it certainly more than covers everything he's tried to stop/ban. But since JT decides what parts of the bible he uses when he wants to use them it's fitting that he misunderstands and interprets US law in the same way.
And after finishing the Closing I can still only say BWWAHH?!?

JT,

I don't like you, and the fact of the matter is, I'm a gamer, who doesn't like you, therefore it stands to reason that you don't like me. But I'm still going to give you some unsolicited advice.

Honestly, your wife is/was sick. Cancer is not a fun thing, I've watched many people fall to it. The absolute best thing for to do/have done for her was to be with her during this/that time. She loves you more than anything on this Earth, with the obvious exception your child(ren). Be with her guy. She could be the strongest person in the world, but I bet you it would mean tons to her if you stopped your crusade long enough to help her get well. And though this might floor you, I sincerely hope she gets/has gotten better and I believe many here feel the same way.
I just have to say that yes. JT as a private citizen has the right to say whatever he wants about whoever he wants and they in turn have the right to sue him for libel or slander.

But JT was not acting as a private citizen when he filed his motions, made his statements and sent out press releases. He was acting as an officer of the court which has a standard of behavoir and an expectation of professionalism.

So yes he can say that he feels a judge is corrupt and he can submit as many lawsuits as he wants to that effect but he has to act like a human being while he does it an limit himself to facts and not rhetoric.

JT is a liar. He has repeatedly said things that he knew were not true. Has made promised in open letters, court statements and press releases that he has never had any intention of following through on.

Where is the $10k that he promised for the rock start mod that was made to his specs.

When will he announce his running for the judge's seat?

When will he appear at the rockstar stockholders meeting?

The answer is a simple never. JT is a liar and cannot be trusted.
I love to laugh at how ludicrous this man is. He's so blatantly stupid he fails to even notice it. On a news video about the Virginia Tech shooting, he made several stupid and illogical comments such as "I was at Virginia Tech years ago debating this issue" ok, so you can debate an issue years before IT HAPPENS? Or how about "A surveillance video showed that Cho's heart rate was not above 60" alright, so, how in God's name can a surveillance camera tell you what anyone's heart is?! He also got verbally pwned by Adam Sessler on Attack of the Show, something I found to be very amusing.

I can't wait for this to end in his demise. He may not be actually impacting games, but he gives gamers a bad name and gives the industry, which I plan on going into, a bad name as well.
"I was sent by a MYTHICAL being, to save you all"

Yes, Jack... of course you were...

Zeus and the God's of Olympus sent me to stop people like you too, by using the power of sarcasm against you. I've got more Gods than you!

Whatcha gonna do?
@JackDon'tKnowJack

"I beat him to it. And got a copyright to prove it. But I do mention GP frequently and in glowing terms. :)"

You practically write a chapter each time a new GP article goes up :rolleyes:
i respect religious people, provided they respect me in return, but this whole agenda of his is just downright stupid. dont get me wrong, you can believe in whatever the hell you want to believe in provided it doesnt intrude on the lives of other people, but what he is doing does and i really hope people who have authority over him will in time recognize this. and to say the least, i hope this time is now. the whole "protect the children" element isnt something that is wrong or anything, but its now very obvious its nothing more than a front in this case and this man has no real intentions of "protecting the children". frankly, he doesnt give a rats ass about that. and that is what is going to lead to his downfall.
@ Paul Kerton

Attacking someone for abusing religion and attacking the religion itself are two different things. Bad form.
Bear in mind that, as noted by GP, these transcript excerpts reflect only the Bar Counsel's case-in-chief. All the witnesses we've heard from are her witnesses, cross-examined (and poorly so) by Mr. Thompson. Futhermore and as also note by GP, Mr. Thompson's case-in-chief amounted to little more than his reading documents already entered into evidence. This likely had to do with Mr. Thompson's complete misunderstanding of the rule of completeness and his complete lack of any meaningful evidence to present. He calls not one witness to testify on his behalf. No doubt, he couldn't find one. Mr. Thompson's case-in-chief, consisting mostly as it does of reading previously admitted evidence into the record, can therefore fairly be described as a complete redundancy with no effect whatsoever on Bar Counsel's case-in-chief. If Bar Counsel was ahead on points when she rested, then her point-position should be unchanged when Mr. Thompson rested.

Who thinks Jack did a "good job" defending?
I know I don't think he did a "good job" defending.
@ yowzers

Excuse me? I don't think I attacked religion at all there. God is a mythical being.
I give him a C+ in his closing statement... that's about it.
Jack Thompson!

STOP KILLING PEOPLE'S FAX MACHINES AND E-MAILS!!!
JT: "They don’t understand that the great infringer of freedoms in our nation’s history and world history is government."

Jack understands this very well. That is why he keeps trying to push anti-game legislation despite already knowing that it completely violates the Constitutional protections of Free Speech.
JT: "...Christian..."
Inigo Montoya: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
I won't say JT did a good job defending, because if he did then he would have brought up and attempted to defend every one of the points he made in he closing. He didn't though. What he did do with his closing was make some arguments that to a complete layperson, sounds almost legit. He cited a case that on it's surface looked applicable, you and other have already explained why it's not. That's a big deal, and a huge surprise because before this moment it was in my mind that JT was using the 'they're biased against me, it's a conspiracy' defense.

This time he looked at least kind of like a lawyer.
I am genuinely surprised. All this time, I thought his rambling, offensive, meandering and pointless cross-examinations were building up to something a little more coherent, or at least based in law.

But nope, it turns out that JT's entire defence can be summarized as 'Jesus told me to'.

It is at the same time depressingly anticlimactic, but also rather revealing.

Alternate summary of his closing statement:
"I'm not crazy! I'm a Christian!"

Yeaaah. Sure you are, buddy.

I can't wait to hear the judges full ruling on him. I have a feeling it'll be more than a little amusing.
Awww, isn't that sweet - JT whining about his 'free speech' - when he's trying to shut down everyone else's.

Hope you get a nice dose of your own medicine Mr. Thompson.
***The opinion here is that unless someone said something that is false… or in reckless disregard of the truth then… you have to let it go and you’re allowed to say these things.***

Way to go hand yourself out there.

- Games are not murder simulators

- Games have rankings and the gaming companies do not try to sell them or advertise them to teens. The game rankings are even put into their commercials, Web sites use age gating. It is up to the parents to insure that their children are not getting to these media avenues through proper parental controls, available on the PC, 360, and PS3.

- Games do not insight violence. There is no proof to say otherwise.

- No shootings have been tied to playing video games other than through rampant speculation through types such as Thompson.

- You have attacked and spread lies about the people who are paid to represent, in legal matters, the companies that make these games and not just the companies. Your allegations of them condoning the actions of their clients is false and is as much saying that a defender of a murderer condones the acts made by the murderer.
@Delin:

I'm surprised Bar Counsel gave him so much rein. I suspect, because his case-in-chief is essentially non-existent, that Mr. Thompson's closing arguments are chock-full of issues which he's raising for the very first time. That's a no-no.
"whatcha gonna do when Zeus mania runs wild on you!"...srry couldn't resist kerton :p.

As for this sub debate about him using religion as a weapon well...its quite literally the oldest weapon in the book and about as mature as "my dad can beat up your dad"in terms of effectiveness.

Freedom of speech has limitations sadly and one is if you continue to cause disturbances,de-fame others,threaten and lie under oath you are just asking to get stonewalled by the justice system or beaten till you see 3d colors in a back alley somewhere(im in favor of the latter as jackie doesn't seem to understand words only actions,at least thats what i would do if he started half the crap with me that he does with everyone else).

as for the "mythical being"comment ,lets just say that in the world where in order to make intelligent folks believe what you say you must provide the burden of proof(just like a trial ironically enough)or others will think you are just crazy like jackie.
@paul

"Personally, i find the man morally repugnant, and i can only hope that Judge Tunis can see the man as he really is, a vicious, twisted creature, who cannot abide anyone or anything that does not meet his criteria of ‘good’"

The issue is not what Jackhole is, will be or how he will behave in the future, but how he has acted towards other law professionals in his capacity as an attorney.

Even if he's the douchest douchebag of them all, if he remains calm and collected at court, that'd be just fine.

But of course the narcissistic egomania can't, so here we are.
Me desperate hope is that if Mr. Thomson is disbarred then another lawyer will take up his cause..wait, hear me out!

I want a real opponent to the video game industry, not some jump-on-the-bandwagon, self centered, talking head loony. I want someone who can actually see when there are real problems and draw our attention to them. Some one who doesn't just scream "Video games are the evil!" but rather has constructive and reasonable thing to say.

Can you imagine it? A lawyer who actually works in a constructive way to keep the ESRB on their toes and make people aware of the rating systems. Someone who would know the difference between the "hot coffee" in game content and the "Oblivion" user created mod and how each should be dealt with.

Wow, what an amazing thing that would be. Let us all hope that Mr. Thomson's replacement is a good and righteous person rather than a self aggrandizing monomaniacal fool.
Total... Looney...

First it's a religion made me do it defense and I won't stop, followed by a tear jerker emotion tug about his wife's condition.

I REALLY hope this judge sees this for EXACTLY what it is...

...Every reason to disbar him.
If JT is right, then that means we can treat anyone anyway we want. All you need is a belief that your religious doctrine allows you that "right". I guess that discriminating against homosexuals is perfectly acceptible- after all, you are merely practicing your religion!

I need to find god right now- I always wanted to be able to treat people like crap (even while at work) without consequence...
@helpless kitten

wont happen in our lifetime and at least not in the us where the only ones that seem to take up that kind of fight are politicians with all the pandering and evangelical nut cases.
@JDKJ -- The only difference between JT's defense and the Chewbacca Defense is that the Chewbacca Defense actually worked.
Does anyone here watch "Boston Legal?"

I really wish one of the judges from that was presiding over this case, either the one who always says, "Shocking! Outrageous!" or the one who goes, "I will not have any of your jibber-jabber...your poopy-cock!"

Definitely would have made the whole thing all the more amusing. ; )
Jack's closing argument, as many have stated, is that the entire purpose of the trial is to infringe upon his First Amendment rights. He could not be more wrong. This is an attempt to infringe upon your privilege to act as a Bar-approved attorney, due to your inability to conduct yourself in a manner befitting the rules and regulations of the Bar.

And I'm sure that is what the Florida Bar's argument is against him, that Thompson may have the right to say what he said. But where and how he said it were against the rules of the Bar when he agreed to become an attorney.

As I recounted in my book... they found that Jack Thompson is perfectly sane...


First off, a shameless plug about his book... there's one preceding this excerpt. Your book is in no way evidence. The facts in there are largely suspect. If you read your Amazon book reviews, you'd know that. It's a self-serving manifest of bile and bullcrap.

When you’ve got hypocrites... then I have a right - in fact, I have duty, as Jesus did, the confront the Pharisees and say: "You are hypocrites. You are liars. You are whited sepulchers. You’re in a den of thieves," and so forth...


Here, he goes on to compare himself to Jesus. I find, in Christianity, that perhaps the worst thing you can do is do something that people by and large disagree with and then compare yourself to Jesus as to why you did it. You do nothing to say as to why your actions are legally or professional in regards to how the Bar requires its attorneys conduct themselves. You state how they are right by your Christian morality. The Florida Bar does not recognize Christian morality as being professional or legal. Because it is not a Christian group.

If you would review your own works... they are nothing but the art of a bully. Did you have to spam multiple employees at Blank Rome about the goings-on of a case that they have absolutely no knowledge about? Did you have to run off press releases to everyone but an actual press agency, decrying the corruptness of various legal entities with nothing but 'he said, she said' accounts to back it up? You're akin to a Puritan preacher dragging women through the streets and shouting "WHORES" and inviting the community to stone them to death. While this type of behavior may have worked 300 years ago, it does nothing but look immature and unprofessional.

Any real attorney would not reveal his legal strategy. He would not issue press releases to the world and all who would listen about his attempts at criminal discovery. If he were interested in winning a case and not just appearing on 60 minutes.

Then I submit to them the psychological forensic evaluation of me by Dr. Oren Wunderman, who’s used by the Florida Bar because they considered him an expert... and he said: "Look. This guy’s a competent attorney. He’s, in effect, under attack by people who don’t like what he’s doing and his religious faith not only animates what he does, but also enriches his practice of law and enriches his capabilities as a lawyer..."


Whether or not you are mentally sane is not the ultimate issue here. You are being accused of conducting yourself unprofessionally according to the rules and expectations of the Florida Bar. The Bar is just looking for evidence in questioning your health, but it is ultimately a WHY not a HOW answer. If you are mentally sane, then it just means you are a douche and a prick.

The Fieger appeal, I will admit, helps your case immensely. However, there was only one count against him. Secondly, he compared them to Nazis and called them jackasses. In no way did he make false allegations as to the legality of their rulings, statuses and so forth. You, on the other hand, accuse people of professional misconduct and facts. That is the most damning thing against you. You can call Clatus Junkin a "king maker" but you accused him of saying he could fix cases. You accused Judge Moore of illegalities and harassed his office. All they need is one of these allegations to make it past appeals and you're through.

And whether or not you win the appeal, you will have been effectively disgraced and neutered for quite a period of time.

So... if found guilty and stripped of his Bar license... can he still act as a Bar-certified attorney while under the appeals process?
@Zerodash "If JT is right, then that means we can treat anyone anyway we want."

Of course you can, as long as it's legal. I can call you all kinds of names and there's nothing you could do about it, other than insult me back or leave (assuming it's a public place and I'm not breaking any laws). I can certainly treat you any way I damn well please.

Obviously not being a total asshole, I tend to treat people with some level of respect and courtesy unless they show that they don't deserve any.

However, Jackhole is a lawyer, and so, acting as one, he has to follow the rules of the Florida Bar Association, which regulates his behavior as an officer of the court. So HE can not treat people anyway he wants, unless he does so as a private person, and not in his capacity as a lawyer.
I only wish that things he has said to people outside of the legal community could affect this case.
If Dava Tunis knew of the comments Jack made to a MGS fan community about a friend of theirs who took his own life..

He's an embarassment to the Florida Bar through his personal life, let alone his failed legal career.
@helpless kitten -- those people actually do exist. They just seem to be overshadowed by Jack's antics, and tend not to compare a violent game to "pornography distributed to children," as Jack would put it.
@diceman82

I only object to the bad call out because some people obviously don't know what the term "myth" means and assume it is analogous to the word "fake", which it isn't!

At the end of the day people can believe what they choose to believe, but if they believe my rights to my beliefs, and the law therein, are lesser because they have religious beliefs, then they are wrong.

JT's religious beliefs make, in his eyes, women lesser than men, and make homosexuality evil and wrong. Unfortunately for Jack, this outdated view will only leave him ostrascised from modern society and from his profession.
"Of course you can, as long as it’s legal. I can call you all kinds of names and there’s nothing you could do about it, other than insult me back or leave (assuming it’s a public place and I’m not breaking any laws). I can certainly treat you any way I damn well please."

the police would probably call that disturbing the peace and tell yuo to go home
This argument won't hold in court. Religious faith doesn't make professional misconduct acceptable. And this is no criminal label suit here. So, even if it's coherent and sentimental, this only prove that he isn't fit to be a lawyer.

And Thompson's suit on Tunis is probably gonna make it worse.
Thompson reminds me a bit of Jeff Dunham's character: Achmed, the dead terrorist...

Though in this case, it'd be like Thompson, the Zealous Attourney.

"Silence! I sue you!"
I also wish Mrs Thompson a nice recovery form her surgery and also hope Jack stops using her in his crusade.

Hell, despite best wishes in that regard I now he'd wish my own mother, who is bedridden with leg problems, harm.
@Mazinger-Z:

I think you overestimate the value of the Fieger case to Jack's self-made predicament. But let's assume that Fieger does provide a clear basis for overturning as unconstitutional the Florida Rule of Conduct regarding defamatory statements aimed at the bench (although Jack has never presented a square challenge to the Rule -- but, anyway). Great. Good for Jack. But he's still gonna hafta suck up whatever sanction(s) he may recieve. The Fieger opinion go to pains to hold that, while they are striking the Michigan Rule, they are not granting any relief as to whatever sanctions were imposed under the now unconstitutional Rule because it wasn't unconstitutional when it formed the basis of the sanction. So, if Jack gets slapped by Judge Tunis and the Supremes, he's thoroughly stuck with that slap and Fieger ain't doing nothing to unslap him.
I find it hysterical that JT calls them pharisees, who are hypocritically self-righteous individuals, when he himself is a hypocritically self-righteous individual...
@ Ragnaar

Problem is that Ahab went after the white whale because it took off his leg many ears before. Jack is going after video games because he is convinced that they are pornography, or something of the like. Ahab, while obsessed, had a valid reason for hating his whale, Jack has not given any 'valid' reason why he is after games. Frankly, if religion is his answer for him doing this, then it should be the defense for KKK men who linch, burn, or torture people.

@ Jack

Ok, the sympathy card doesn't justify you being an asshole for the past 5 years, buckwheat. And you need to re-read the first amendment sonny-jim, it says:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

In other words, you can practice your religion freely, assembly peacefully, tell the news without fear of censorship or reprisal, to try and get laws removed or redressed, and to speak ones' opinion. However, what you are doing is not found under 1st Smendment protection. In fact, your motivations are actually in violation of the 1st Amendment, as you are trying to force a religiously motivated ideal upon others in order to supress their 1st Amendment rights. In other words, YOU'RE BEING A TYRANT! Last I checked, the United States was not a religion based goverment like the Taliban was.

There is such a thing as the separation of church and state, which as Thomas Jefferson says:

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

"... no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods..."

In simpler terms, since we all know that Jack has trouble with complex ideas; The government can't force religious ideals on the people, as religion is a private matter and not part of public law. In otherwords, Jack, what you want violates the Constitution and the is contrary to the ideas of the founding fathers themselves.

Jack, Welcome to Hypocricy, population: YOU!
I have my doubts about if he actually will get fired from the bar. What are we gonna to do if he remain as lawyer?
Wow, that closing statement was actually the peek into the inner workings of his mind that makes it all make sense.

While we've always known his little "crusade" was religious based, it was why he always thought he could act the way he does in a legal setting that baffled me. Now we know why, because he found a court decision that, when extremely narrowly interpreted (honestly its to the point of entirely misinterpreted), justifies his actions.
@Rodrigo

Sent pink cancer suvivor arms bands to his wife, of course. Shes gone through a lot and deserves a token of our genuine goodwill.
You have freedom of belief. You do not, however, have freedom of a job. There are certain things that you cannot believe or do and still maintain a job. If someone was the PR guy for cigarette companies, and declared that their religion was against smoking and tobacco companies were evil, that person should expect to lose their job. Likewise, a lawyer who repeatedly insults the courts and violates bar rules he agreed to should be disbarred, regardless of his personal motivations. It does not stifle his rights in any way.. he just loses his ability to abuse the system for free.
Sorry, but his closing statement was anything but persuasive - or of course, anything resembling a coherent, effective defense.

The practice of law is not a right. Rather, it is a privilege. That privilege can be taken away... it is a fact of life for attorneys.

Thompson's defense is that his behavior was motivated by religious conviction and, as such, if the Bar seeks to punish him for such behavior, then the Bar is effectively punishing him for his religious beliefs.

If the Bar was denying him a license because Thompson is a practicing Christion, then Thompson would have a point. However, that is not hte case and there is nothing in any Bible I have read that requires its adherents to "defame other attorneys and judges", "ignore court orders", "act abusively towards judges and opposing counsel", "be disrespectful", etc. These are not essential tenets of practicing Christianity.

Thompson may attack Rockstar/Take Two and sue them due to his "Christian beliefs", however, he is not being disbarred because he sued them or why he was motivated in suing them. He is potentially being disbarred because of the manner in which he acted.

Thompson is merely using religion and free speech arguments as a "smoke screen" to distract and/or intimidate the judge (i.e., if you rule against me, I will tie this up for years in a civil rights law suit).

If the Judge were to buy Thompson's central argument: that my Christian beliefs required me to act this way (i.e., I was "called" to this line of work to help the innocent children - as Jesus would want me too - and the conduct of the other parties was so outrageous so as to offend my religious beliefs), then where would it end? Couldn't Thompson argue the same thing if, during the contempt hearing, he went up to Judge Friedman and "bitch slapped" him?? Of course, that would not be permissible.

The U.S. Constitution puts limits on free speech. For example, speech intended to incite violence is not protected. Speech, which is false and defamatory, is also not protected.

I do not know the specifics of the Feiger case, however, I am sure that a distinction could be drawn. Thompson has gone far beyond making unfortunately ridiculous analogies (my recollection was that Feiger said something to the effect that the judges were acting like nazis).

Finally, it is useful to remember that the conduct, which was the subject of the complaint, was not limited to Thompson's words alone. Rather, his conduct was disgraceful as well.
How does the Fieger case even enter into it? That guy had protected speech because he was on his own radio show expressing his opinion. JT's behavior was in the courtroom, and in courtly documents and filings, and in violating judge's orders by speaking to the press during court proceedings, wasn't it? One is protected speech, and the other you are beholden to the conduct standards of law.
Religion isn't an excuse to verbally abuse anything you want. It's common sense really. JT says he won't be insulted and not complain or act about it. Well what about us as gamers or the video game industry in general? He's insulted us enough times. Are we just supposed to sit back and take it? Then he wonders why we get angry. He's called us uneducated, and I can tell you most of my "gamer" friends are quite intelligent, one of them has a PhD in Physics and a Masters in Computer Engineering. You want to see uneducated people? how about the people that blame everything wrong with society on one form of media? At times I'm surprised no one has tried to blame the middle east problems on Video games yet. I'm all for keeping rated M games away from kids, but that's the parent's job, not the government's. I wouldn't want anyone besides me telling my child what they can or cannot read, I don't tell other people's kids what they can or cannot read or watch and I expect the same courtesy. It's different if someone were to say "Oh I heard about such and such game and it looks pretty bad, maybe you shouldn't let your kid play it." Work with the video game industry, educate parents about games, I don't mean make them all hardcore gamers, but teach them enough to decide what games their children should play, on their own, without government intervention. They're your kids, now start acting like a parent. Of course this is just my two cents.
@vinniethewop:

Fieger's criticism of the bench was made in response to rulings by the bench in a case in which he was an attorney representing a client. Jack's case, at least the Bully + Friedman part, is factually similar.
I remember when Geoffrey Fieger ran for Governor.... He lost in a landslide.
Wow.

*Hides behind religion
*Cries a river about his sick wife
*Claims videogames tried to rape his wife (????)
*Hints at a vast conspiracy by the game industry to buy judges
*"I have the first amendment but they DON'T!"

Bye Joke Thompson.
God ... please, please let him be disbarred. Please.
To GryphonOsiris:

:lol but I´m talking about when he returns to TV to make more nonsense lies about games and gamers and making lawsuits.

There must exist a way for us to counter his stupid retoric in public, like many gamers did against Lawrence Cooper on the Mass Effect fiasco.
Does anyone else here notice that the way he strings his sentences together after that initial quotation actually says his pursuit of these goals is in violation of the law and his own religious beliefs? I do love the English language. Disbar his ass for crimes against grammar alone.
I dunno, after reading through these transcripts over the past few days, it seemed that Jack's argument should have strictly stuck to the appropriateness of his behavior. I think that he had opportunities to do this but his actual arguments are hung out as one liners...

"I questioned the propriety of a judge violating his own orders"


I think that should have been the foundation of his argument when discussing his behavior in the Friedman case. Not that it's a good argument, but at least it would make more sense. When he "questions the propriety" he should have elaborated on why his behavior was reasonable. Not saying that it was, but when your actions may result in you being disbarred, why wouldn't you present your actions as being as rational and reasonable as possible? Using Religion and defaming legal opponents is definitely showmanship on Jack's part, but the judge still has to go back to the fundamental issues with Jack's behavior. In lieu of that, I don't see where Jack maybe provided a couple of lines to defend the actual issue.


On a side note,

EA's response when Jack offered to represent them:

LOL
Oh, and that's like, the second or third time he's brought up his 'fondness' of that bailiff. Why doncha just marry the guy, Jack?
Dude...

I'm a Jew, and not even we think that constantly harassing corporations we don't like is a religious right.
@JDKJ

Kewl, thanx mang.
*Sigh* If Jack comparing himself to Jesus Christ isn't a sign of mental instability, we might as well set Charlie Manson free.
@JakeD

That's because Jack is like the Ouroboros, but instead of consuming his own tail, he's sticking his own head up his butt.
@gameman9

The Fieger case basically was overturned in US District Court because the rules on conduct were considered too "vague." All the guy, who was a Bar attorney for Michigan, did was go on his radio show and say that judges were jackasses and Nazis. He was sanctioned for his statements.

Obviously, its pretty mild compared to what Jack did, but it provides a very minor boost to Jack's position. Unfortunately, if Jack did not limit himself to opinionated insults. He violated orders, he made defamatory and false comments and went so far as to harass several offices with his press releases...
Jack's hubris snags him, once again. Can't nobody tell me that Jack's camp wouldn't have covered the cost of getting him an attorney who knows just a lil' sumsum 'bout disciplinary proceedings. I'd be surprised if it wasn't offered. But if I know Jack, I know he refused all offers of meaningful assistance (Gopman, hence, excluded). The Jack I know has to insist on doing it himself. With all the predictable results.

Pride, Jack. Ain't that one of the seven deadly sins?
"They don’t understand what freedom is about. They don’t understand that the great infringer of freedoms in our nation’s history and world history is government. These people don’t care about that. They care about their view of ethics."

What he doesn't realize is he wants to use government to restrict the freedoms of others because he only cares about his own view of 'ethics'.
Can't they just disbar this asshole already?
So believe me, having been within the belly of Judge Friedman’s courtroom and seen what he did improperly in an ex-parte proceeding where he didn’t do what he said he would do, I had a right to tell the truth. I had a right to identify what he had done wrong.

It's an interesting statement this one, because it assumes that what Judge Friedman 'did wrong' was find against Jack Thompson, that if only he'd watched the whole game, he would have known how 'truly evil' it was. That's where Jack continuously screws up, he thinks his view is the only possible correct one.

I watched the ending of Bully on YouTube, I won't tell you how it ends for fear of spoiling it for others, but I will say that it is, ironically enough, in a completely different context to the manner in which Thompson describes it, so nothing new there.

As for the kissing, that's not added functionality to allow male-male kissing, it's a lack of functionality to detect the difference between genders, and it is most certainly no more 'shocking' in content than Mass Effect was. Apparently Jack is driven as much by homophobia as he is by religion...

Jack seems to think it is his duty to shout his perceived concerns about other people's faults to the world, and yet when the same happens to him, when an unfavourable report comes out against him, it is 'persecution' and a 'breach of his rights'. He's the original 'have my cake and eat it' candidate.
Damn, first paragraph was supposed to be quoted....
A lot of what I want to say has already been said, but I'll say it anyway.

The comment about Mrs. T caught me off-guard. Cancer is no laughing matter and I wish her a good recovery.

I laughed at the Book plug too. If only the legal system had allowed the prosecutor to say, "Objection, Relevance!" Followed by, "Sustained! You may not refer to your Gorram book again, Mr. Thompson! You are never going to get it into evidence and no one is going to read it anyway! The horse is dead, move on!"

It is important to note that although many of us hate JT, and I for for one hope he gets disbarred for his conduct, I do so because I think that his it is the correct punishment for him. I don't wish bad, especially not violence, on Jack for the sake of not liking him. I hope he gets disbarred because my opinion of his conduct says he is not fit to be a lawyer.

As I've said before, JT's arguments have more Logical Fallacies than certain Presidential speeches, and this closing is no exception. As most people have pointed out, JT is trying to use Christianity as a scape goat. I agree with. JT thinks that he's doing God's work. I have no doubt he honestly believes this, but he misses the point that his religion is not the issue in this case.

I could care less about JT's religious stance. I'm no bigot.
For all I care, JT could perform a hedonistic dance in the court room before proceedings or be religiously motivated to dress like Sanzo from Saiyuki with a Pope hat on his head and it wouldn't bother me at all.
This case is based on his conduct in and out of a court room based on the standards set forth by the BAR of the State of Florida. IT has nothing to do with his religion. I disagree with him, but I have a right to disagree and so does JT. But, as a lawyer JT doesn't have the right (Hypothetically) to send me E-Mails everyday, bog down my workplace with calls, distract my secreatrial staff, and use rude language to characterize me in those same E-Mails that are also CC'd to the Media.

JT is constantly grabbing for air and empty space in hopes of winning, but he won't.

The one part of the testimony I want to read is the Prosection's Closing. I know it is a long review of the case in writing, but I could also see it in my mind as a note on a cocktail napkin that says, "He's Crazy. You know what to do..."
Wow, so Jack has been the victim all along huh? Who knew...
Jesus would have never, ever killed a judge's fax machine.
From this trial, I have drawn the following conclusion about Jack Thompson:

At some point in his life, Jack decided that it would be a good idea to become a thorn in the video game industry's side. Only he will ever know why.

Since then, obviously, Jack has done everything he can possibly think of to become exactly that. It's never made any difference to him who or what got hurt in the process. His obsession makes him completely apathetic.

The only thing that truly makes him an idiot is the decision he made long ago. He knows when he lies, and he knows when he's done something wrong and/or illegal. He just doesn't care. His obsession won't let him.

And now, as he very well knows what's coming, and has clearly chosen to embrace it, he's making himself into a kind of martyr. It's just another part of being what he's chosen to be: a thorn in the video game industry's side. When his license his gone, Jack is going to scream at the top of the mountains about he's "yet another victim of the murder simulator-makers pursuing global domination" or whatever nonsense he comes up with. He'll know it's bull shit, and that people stopped swallowing his tripe long ago, but like before, his obsession won't let him stop.

Were it not for the atrocious things he's said and done in the name of being a pain in the ass, I'd feel sorry for Thompson, for he clearly needs help to get the monkey off his back.
If Mrs. T is reading this, she can see we only wish her a speedy recovery. Mr. T (bu dum cha) is probably going off and saying "look at what these morons have to say! They are harrassing you!"

"Honey, they are only wishing that I get well."

"I'll sue you, you babylonian whore! How dare you go against me!? Don't you see they are BRAINWASHING you!?"
'as Jesus did, the confront the Pharisees and say: “You are hypocrites. You are liars. You are whited sepulchers. You’re in a den of thieves,”'

'The opinion here is that unless someone said something that is false… or in reckless disregard of the truth then… you have to let it go and you’re allowed to say these things.'

The irony is thick in this statement. First JT condemns hypocrites and liars, then saying as long as he hasn't said or done anything with 'reckless disregard of the truth' that the claim against him is essentially forfeit...

But we've all been witness to exactly that: Jack Thompson's reckless disregard of the truth of the media he condemns for (presumably) the mere furtherence of his career and his public image.

Maybe he truly believes what he says and it's not all just a stunt? Despite there being no evidence to support his claims, could it be possible he honestly believes that Video Games really *do* make people kill? Believes it so hard that not a lack of evidence, or even contradictory evidence could sway him? If so, then I feel bad for him...because that's not faith...that's zealotry. And we've seen in this case alone how much his zealotry harms others - likely much more than the Video Games he rails against.

'my wife had just had ovarian cancer surgery'

That is definately a sad thing, and I hope his wife has a swift recovery. It can indeed put some of his actions into perspective, but that doesn't make them right...just understandable.
I love that he manages to plug his book several times.

I also have serious questions about Jack's mental health. He regularly indulges in self destructive behavior regardless of the consequences. He is also overly obsessed with pornography. Is there some horrible tragedy that took place during Jack's formulative years that I may have missed? Something that might help to explain the man we see before us now?
So according to Jack's argument, the state has no right to prevent islamic suicide bombers as it impunes their right to practice religious freedom.

Also, the first amendment does not mean you can go into work one day, call your boss a big fat pig, and expect that you can'y be fired. By disbarring Jacko, they are not impuning his freedom of speech. They are not preventing him from going on Faux News, writing books, or shouting from the streetcorner.
JT claims he is doing all of this in the name of religion, yet god gave his wife cancer, not TakeTwo.
I don't believe Florida's religious rights law extends to the "right" to force your religous views upon others

It just means you are allowed to practice your religion without fear or reprocussion (albeit within reason. Like you are still criminally liable if you kill your neighbors dog for a sacrifice to your god. Even though your religion says you should, it's still wrong to do it and a criminal offense as well)
I never saw the point in addressing him... do you really want him to reply? you know goddamn well even if he chose to he would not be civil about it.

But really, I've got nothing else, just the hope that Judge Tunis makes the right call on this.
@Liekos -- the problem with Jack's use of his wife's illness in his defense is it points to standard operating procedure with Jack. Nothing is EVER his fault.

1) Those lawyers support a company that makes pornography, so they're pornographers. It's not MY fault I tell the truth about them!
2) My wife has cancer. It's not MY fault I act out!
3) I'm a Christian and I'm pursuing my faith. It's not MY fault I'm doing this in Jesus' name!
4) The judge's are always ruling against me. It's not MY fault I call them corrupt!
5) The Bar is persecuting me. It's not MY fault I'm harassing them with baseless lawsuits!
6) The SCOFLA doesn't understand my arguments. It's not MY fault I filed gay porn or a picture book with them!
7) Neil Rogers is a pornographer and gay! It's not MY fault I tried to run his car off the road! (Allegedly.)

See what I'm getting at?

I am sympathetic to his wife's situation. I hope she makes a full recovery from her illness.

But her illness is not a part of the facts of this case. Period.
If I was the Bar Attorney I think I would have had about fifteen

Objection! Mischaracterizing evidence. and
Objection! Testifying to facts that are not in evidence!
and fianlly

OBJECTION! Opposing Counsel is being a complete dickweed and his limited understanding of the law is making my brain hurt.

Whats so funny is that his arguments, first amendment and religious freedom have been used time and time again by other defendants. Simply put there are no ABSOLUTE rights in this or any country, everything has its limitations. And like a wise man once said...."A man has got to know his limitations"
@Vinzent -- I think Jack's argument is that the Florida Bar is an arm of the SCOFLA, therefor it IS a government body, and therefor they can't regulate his speech.

His argument is wrong, of course, but I'm just laying out his point of view.
Just as the rule stands "Don't show a clip from a good movie in the middle of your crappy movie" so the rule stands "don't compare yourself to Jesus"

I'm an athiest, but I completely respect what the Bible's Jesus stood for. He may have been the coolest, most down to earth guy of all time. Comparing yourself to him just makes you look bad in comparison, no matter who you are.
Biggest irony I see is that Thompson has the balls to talk about his first amendment being violated while actively trying to violate the first amendment rights of others
@Dog_Welder: Oh I agree, it has no place in his argument. I'm just saying I understand it, I don't excuse it though.
I just find it disgusting that he constantly attempts to play the victim card without even a shred of personal responsibility whatsoever and trying to bring his book into it as if its contents are undeniable facts because it's in a book just shows he gullible he believes everyone to be. I'm hoping for the best here, but I'm also preparing for the worst.
@Dog_welder

The sad part is he talks about his 'rights' as a man, but won't man up to his mistakes. Instead he comes up with half-assed, whiny excuses for his actions and tries to say they justify everything he's done.

@ Jack
Be a man for once Jack and admit you have made mistakes. It's a lot more admirable and respectible for a man to admit his errors than it is to be an ass to everyone and act like you are infalible.

And FYI, next time you get a psyc exam, don't use a family friend and member of your church. Credibility goes right out the window with that, and any halfway decent lawyer would pick that apart in 3 minutes flat. Perhaps if you request a neutral party to choose the Doctor it would go further to show that you aren't trying to rig the outcome. Of course, I'm certain that deep down you are afraid of a fair and unbiased exam because it might contradict with your own self image. So I reiterate my initial statement; be a man for once in your life.
How come Jack never once, at least in the excerpts, tries to tie all the conspirators together in the conspiracy? Doesn't a conspiracy require that two or more person agree to a course of criminal action? How come Jack never asks Friedman if he'd ever ex parte met or had discussions with Smith and Ward? Or if he ever met and had discussions with either Junkin or Moore? Or Howard Stern? Or Tew Cardenas? And what agreements, if any, they reached?

That's one hell of a way to prove a criminal conspiracy. Hmmm.
If he is motivated by God, he will be judge by God.
If doing "xyz" is offensive to god/irreligious, let us be judged by god,
Until then Thompon "must render unto Ceaser what is Ceaser's" and leave the rest of us alone to worry about RSI and (maybe our own) judgement day.
Same "Those godless & corrupt freaks are persecuting me because they HATE MY RELIGION!!!"

And I have doubts about his quote involving that one Judge...

"JT: who’s used by the Florida Bar because they considered him an expert…"
Wait, is that true???

LOL at the "BAWWWWWWWWWWWW, teh governemnt can't SLAPP me, only I can SLAPP!"

I think I know why they wouldn't except his book, I wouldn't allow some horribly written fiction be submitted as evidence. And they probably already lost some braincells reading his submitted documents...

"JT: Now, there’s been no testimony, no evidence - in my opinion - anywhere in this case, Judge, that I have uttered anything that’s false about Judge Moore or Judge Friedman or that I have uttered what I have said in reckless disregard of the truth or falsity of what I’ve said."
Oh boy... Now that is a load...
"JT: I had a right to tell the truth."
Sure you do, but too bad you don't ever do that.

"JT: First of all, I had no client. I brought a pro bono on behalf of the State as a private attorney general. I had no client… Secondly, I didn’t attack the integrity of this judge or his qualifications… I didn’t question his integrity. I questioned the propriety of a judge violating his own orders…"
........

"JT: Judge, they’re almost all violations of my speech rights."
"Almost"?

(GP: Thompson then says that it was his complaint that led to the removal of The Crying Judge in the Anna Nicole Smith case, so…)
LOL! Uh huh, sure he did..... I do love the fact about how he was complaining about the lawyer's ethics in that case!

"JT: I would have liked a little less courtesy and a little more fairness…"
....

"JT: ... threaten to rape my wife, corporately incite the sending of sex products to my wife and me at our home, and I’m supposed to just sit there..."
Wut... I wouldn't trust a darned thing in there, I remember Jack deliberately being dense about such a product as a joke and spinning it his way.

"JT: You don’t know the half of what has gone on here ..."
You can say that again.

"Blank Rome, knowing my wife had just had ovarian cancer surgery, sued me with a lawsuit at our house....[BIG SNIP]"
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU, JACK YOU MANIPULATIVE & EXPLOITING BASTARD!?!? I am willing to bet they did NOT know such a thing, nor did the process server......... And I HIGHLY doubt they would do something like this deliberately.

Hmmm now that I think of it, sounds like the kind of thing Jack would do.... Anyone remember "Flowers for Jack"?

So... Jack complains about his 1st Amendment rights being trampled on, while at the same time denying others such rights("Free speech for me, none for you!").... Wants to enforce HIS version of the first amendment...

No wonder he reminds me of a spammer; he frequently sends out lengthy documents to EVERYONE expecting people to read them 100%, verbally harasses others but doesn't like it when it comes back to him, rules don't apply to him unless he benefits from it, feels such a right excuses his behavior, "Jack's 1st Amendment™" is the real 1st Amendment, etc....
Wow, what abunch of mindless rambling. What I see as his argument is:

1. I'm an attorney and allowed to say whatever I want
2. If that doesn't work I will throw in my religion as reasoning
2. If you disagree or file motions against me it will be a:
automatic violation of my First Amendment right to call you every name in the book, subject you and the court system to mind numbing amounts of pointless motions, search and post gay pronography at my choosing,
dang button.


I think the prosecutor went with a written closing argument because they were trying to hold in their laughter after having to endure his pointless and erratic closing arument.
@BaronJuJu: More likely so they wouldn't have to deal with interuptions and BS from ol' JT.
Weren't the 9/11 Hijackers also acting on their religion?


Yeah Jack, no one cares about the why of your actions, but the actions themselves. If your actions have been unbecoming of a lawyer, and saying they have is an understatement, you should be disbarred regardless of the why.
And by implication she says, "I don't even have to respond cotemporaneously to Mr. Thompson's non-arguments. I'm willing to rest on my brief, which I had already neatly typed before I had heard the first word of Mr. Thonpson's non-arguments."
*re-reads*

Wow, he really abuses his wife's cancer there, doesn't he?

And he's lumping in his forum-antagonists in with his real-life antagonists...
Double-post, my bad, but I'd like to add...

Despite his wife's ovarian cancer and the subsequent issues it appears to be causing in his life, he's still not run out of steam in being a lying, litigious, press-releasing SOB. It apparently, however, severely impacts his ability to deal with any attacks against him.
@Aliasalpha

His grammar was indeed correct. If you remove the part about his wife, you would get "sending of sex products to I at my home." The addition of another person to the sentence does not change the 'me' to an 'I'.

That makes no sense. Now if it had me "My wife and I received sex products," then yes. His grammar would have been off.
@Mazinger-Z:

If true, I'm sympathetic. But if all I have is Jack's say-so, I'll have to await medical records.
Didn't read all of it... to much BOREINGZ

Does he really think people attack him because he's christian? It's cause he's incompetent, a threat to society, and a LIAR.
wow...I think it's too late to try to cozy up the judge with an emotionally-overcharged, well-transmitted closing statement where you try to lay excuses of religious messengering and sympathies of your wife's pain as the reasons for your actions (btw my sympathies for her pain, though I recall once a guy who was totally old testament saying how such issues are women's punishment for being women...not that I agree, just saying someone can blame anything for anything if they believe hard enough).

One of the primary rules of rationality and logic: do not rely on emotions to replace hard cold fact.
Wait....did Jack just compare himself to Jesus?
@InHuman

Scarily enough I really do think he beleives he is being acted largly because of his religious beleifs. That's part of the troublesome disconect Jack exibits. It's not the fact that he's a bully, a liar, and a proffiteer of misery; everybody is against him becase he's christian.

That's the big disconnect in Thompsons head, he views this as a crusade against the filth of the modern world, and anybody who opposes him is utterly evil. He lives in a world of stark black and white, good and evil where whatever he does no matter how it hurts other is justified because he has a higher purpose.

Also why does he constantly refer to himself in the third person in his closing?
Funny, I'm a Christian, and no one persecutes me...
Okay...this bit just hit me:

JT: Mr. Fieger [a prominent attorney] had some sort of a dispute… and Mr. Fieger had a radio program and he… was upset about what these judges had done and he called them Nazis. He said that their ruling was worse than if you had put a certain number of monkeys in a room and they had typed at typewriters and come up with the opinion. It suggested that they were in the pockets of commercial interests.

DT: He said this to whom?

JT: He said it… on his radio show to the whole state of Michigan.

DT: OKay. So he was a radio personality, a person on the radio.

JT: He’s a lawyer. He’s a very successful lawyer who’s been on all the talk shows… Greta Van Susteren, and -



Looking up Fieger's record, he's really not that successful of an attorney. The guy has had about as much success in his legal and political career as Jack has. He represented Kevorkian? Sorry about that jail time, Dr. Death! BUT, he's been on the TV shows!

This is rather telling, is it not? To Jack, successful lawyer = "been on TV"

Doesn't this just say: "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!"
@Phalanx -- if it makes you feel better I'll persecute you. =D
@Dog_Welder:

lawlz...
Interesting that Mr. Thompson mentions Pharisees in his closing arguments.

The Pharisees were neither heathens nor pagans; the were in fact devout believers in God. But while they were adherents of the law of Moses, they took their dedication so far that they became blinded to the purpose of the word. They were so focused on obeying and enforcing what was written that they lost sight of many of the fundamentals of their faith such as loving your enemies, doing good to those that hate you, and doing unto others what you would have done unto you. With minds so calcified, they committed many sins in the name of preserving righteousness; swallowing camels while swatting at gnats, and adulterated everything they held sacred in the name of its preservation.

Sound like someone we know?
@ Demontestament

You ask that like it's something JT hasn't already done a million times...
HES QUOTING FIEGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im stunned, fieger is the michigan bar assiociation of a joke,

he defended jack kavorkian who was found guilty of commiting assisted suicide (for the non-christians suicide is one of the worst sins you can commit) lol thus proves hes a worthless jackass
(personally i have no stance really on what kevorkian did)
Well, best wishes to his wife. I hope she comes through her ordeal in good health. But it has little to no relevance to this case. If things were being sent to them in a harassing fashion, that's a different legal case all together. And I'm sure some people who hate JT would do that. As deplorable of a thing to do that is; leave it out of this. Jack has a problem with bleeding everything else into anything he's doing. It could be from his personal life, or from his 'business' life.

I don't think JT has a prayer (haha get it?) to save himself from being disbarred.
This coward is just doing what he does best, hiding behind religion as if its an all protective shield that grants him the ability to do whatever he wants despite its hypocrisy. The fact that he claims to do all this in the name of religion is an insult and slap in the face of those religious folks who practice act rationally. He honestly has no right to claim a religious defense.

I hope that all parties are aware that Jack is once again trying to shift the issue. He should not and can not get away with his unethical and unprofessional antics. If he wants to make outrageous and baseless claims in the religion, do so in a church house and not in a house of law.
As usual, his words are self-promotion and has him full of himself. I doubt the religious motivation will help much. As for choosing the lease restrictive action, it'd be him having him disbarred and losing power. Otherwise, letting him exist will bring about more problems and future complaints at the expense of many others.

I will admit, it will be difficult to see how effective this testimony will be without the other witnesses' testimony that aren't game related. Then again, it likely wouldn't change much, as it doesn't reflect upon those witnesses by him clamoring "VIDEO GAMES ARE BAD, THAT IS WHY I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE PRACTICING LAW TO PREVENT THEIR SALE!"

It makes me sick how he always uses his wife as an excuse for behavior and for sympathy. I feel sorry for her, but that doesn't excuse him getting off free just because she is sick, he should be taking care of her even if he is insane.
# SeanB Says:
March 27th, 2008 at 6:16 am

I’m sorry, did Jack just say that he was Called By God to do this? Woah… bad point to make in Court.

Are we ever going to see the whole of the texts?


This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes from The Critic:

Jay Sherman: "I've had every disease known to man except delusions of grandeur. And that is why God alone has chosen me alone, to do his work on Earth!!"
Oops, one too many alones up there, sorry :(
@Phalanx

Maybe because you don't run in the streets screaming "I'm a christian and can do whatever I want." or "Don't do that, it's sinful." like Thompson figuratively does.
@Cullarn: The way I understand it, suicide takes upon the Thou shalt not kill" commandment, and while you are forgiven if you repent for killing someone, since you killed yourself, you have no way to repent for killing [yourself] before you die
@rauggo

thats basically how it works (although one could argue when you die and as you go for judgement you could seek confession to god ) who know maybe god could find a way fro you to repent
Did he seriously want to read his autobiography into the record?
@rauggo and Cullarn, actually it is more about spurning god's gift of life. Which is why it is a mortal sin, it is apparently utter blasphemy to think god didn't make you correctly, or didn't provide you with enough to live a happy and joyous life....

When in reality god really didn't provide jack shite, if he did we wouldn't have had to fight and kick and scrape our way through the eons to the point where violence is a natural part of our disposition.

/shrug
@Dog_Welder:

JT: He said it… on his radio show to the whole state of Michigan.

That's one powerful radio station with a broadcast range that covers the entire State of Michigan. Or has Geoffrey graduate from terrestrial to satellite radio? Or is Jack still fibbing?
I was gonna say something, but what I wanted to say has already been said.

So I'll just say that I've very much enjoyed this series, Dennis, and I'm looking forward to your wrap-up!
@vinnie
i think the whole thing about not being provided with anything has to do with the idea of the fall of man, which took us out of a place where we were provided with everything...i could be wrong; i'm no theological scholar.

i was just imagining a memo to JT from Jesus, similar to the letter NIMF sent...i imagine it something like this:
To: JT
Re: use of my name

please stop affiliating yourself with me. "Your commentary has included extreme hyperbole and your tactics have included personally attacking individuals for whom I have a great deal of respect" (taken directly from NIMF's letter)

From: Jesus
@anele, yes twelve years of Catholic school has taught me many things...most importantly that I didn't want to be catholic. But also things such as the fact that we are still supposedly being punished for something some @$$hat did at the beginning of time. A fair and loving god indeed....
@jdkj

if im not mistaken i believe it was a dteriot radio station (while it probably does have a nice reach i can assure the "yoopers" were able to listen in (neither were the moose =p)
You know, about Jack being a sociopath... Even though it's something you shouldn't really openly accuse of someone being, I can't help but to wonder the same thing.

Narcissisim, which is a huge part of anti-social personality disorded, seems to fit his character more than well. No matter how much he gets put down, no matter what judges say, he's always the one who is right.
Then of course there are these blatant lies he keeps telling to help his agenda, no matter how outrageous they seem to anyone who knows a bit about the subject.
He's also a decent manipulator, and can appear very charming when he wants to, something that sociopaths are often quite capable of when they see that they must act pleasantly to reach their goals.

From what I know about psychopaths, he seems to fit the profile pretty well... He doesn't show much symphaty for the victims of whatever shooting he is covering, being there to tell huge lies/speculations withing hours to promote his own anti-gaming agenda. That's seemed somehow twisted to me back then, during the Virginia Tech incident.

It's always hard to say when you don't know him well and personally, but I think there's a good change.
@cullarn:

Gee, Jack's fibbing, again. To the court. In a case in which he's accussed of fibbing. Imagine that.
Gameclucks Says:

March 27th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Jesus would have never, ever killed a judge’s fax machine.


.........OMG LOLZ
Well, first and foremost, everyone's entitled to their own opinion. Many of you already have heard that, and hopefully all of you follow that creed. JT is entitled to his own opinion, and that's okay.

However.....

JT isn't a simple man. He isn't a lawyer. He's a zealot. He doesn't care about any system that's set down so that the playing field is even. He's got one thing on his mind and he'll try to crush whatever is in his way.

So, what happens when somebody higher on the food chain calls him on his crap? He drops into his defense: "It's cause I'm Christian."

By using this defense, he's trying to make it seem like the courts are discriminating against him for his religion. That, of course, is crap. There isn't a problem with anyone being part of any religion. I find that there's something very wrong if this guy's using his Christian beliefs to save his own hide. That says something about the guy... Hopefully, the judge will see through that sham.

I think it was unnecessary to bring up his wife in court. That's kinda improper and I'd think it would be personal. How did the guy delivering the papers know she couldn't move around well? In any regard though, I do hope she gets well.

Even if JT was disbarred, I wouldn'tve expected him to shut his ball washer, but at least they won't have a lawyer with the mind of a pre-schooler running around, making lawyers cry, spamming e-mail, and killing fax machines.
"I am a religious zealot, therefore I have the right to do and say anything I want. Yes, no matter how harassing it may be."

Sigh... Jack, you forgot the basic premise of rights: "You have the right to do anything you want so long as it does not interfere with others' rights."

Case closed. Nice knowing ya, Jack.
@jdkj

i knew that just thought id let you know bout where fieger broadcast from
(gotta admit most detriot stations usually have a pretty good broadcast range though)
@vinniethewop

Wierd. Not to segue too far off course, that I find it strange that the more rigorously one is raised in the catholic tradition, the less likely one is to adhere to it, come adult-hood. Well, at least, that's how it seems to me.

In truth, there is probably little or nothing I could say about Jack-o that hasn't already been said. I forget, when exactly, I completely abandoned all hope on him. Think it was back when he subpeona'ed (sp?) the president. The guy's a douche, he's completely off his rocker, he really is. News of Jack is like watching an episode of cops, it cheers you up in a strange way, because no matter how bad your life may seem, you can usually say, "well, at least I'm not like that guy".

The real irony is, I'm gonna set aside my John Bruce Thompson hatred for a minute. I'm not COMPLETELY against his agenda. I'm really not. I'll be specific. At one point, Jack was calling for a federally regulated ESRB. I don't particularly like that idea, but it's not for first amendment reasons really, I would oppose it only because big government is usually incredibly ineffectual at getting things done. So sure, we'd have a government ESRB that likely wouldn't be any better then the one we currently have, and would come out of taxpayer money. THAT SAID, a federally regulated ESRB is pretty mild - I don't like it, but I could live with it. It's not the end of the world! If compromise was actually possible with people like Jack, I would agree to something like that. Problem is, I have a hard time believing that Jack would know what a compromise is if a truck full of them hit him on the highway.

I almost feel sorry for the guy. Though I don't think we (gamers) should accept responsibility. You know we didn't help. I have no trouble believing that there are those among us who sent his wife sex toys, and just generally gave him allot of hassle about everything. I have no trouble believing there are those among us who've threatened him. Of course, that doesn't justify any of his actions, but (metaphor) when dumb tourists tease angry bear it isn't difficult to sympathize with the bear.
I hate when people use their religious beliefs as an excuse for their actions. Isn't that how terroristt think as well? Jack Thompson is nothing but an American Terrorist.
@jadedcritic, you are very correct...that is indeed the case. Ex-catholics are amongst the most intollerant of catholics, because we know TOO MUCH about the church. My problem isn't with god or jesus...its with the church. Vatican 1, Vatican 2....all a joke, great PR moves that the current Pope is trying to undo when the catholic church is in dire need of a Vatican 3. But after popes have kowtow'd to the mafia and fascists, I have a severe problem with the doctrine of papal infalibility, among many others (original sin, etc, etc).

And that's not even getting into the Catholic church's pedophile-priest shell-game they were playing up to a couple years ago....
Um... a thought occured. Mostly because I'm on the internet so much, I guess it slipped my mind. Isn't Christianity the largest religion in America? Aren't most of the Senators, the Congressmen, the President, and such all at least claim to be Christian, even if they occasionally fall short of the ideal?

Then who, exactly, is persecuting you? Are you claiming that everyone that doesn't behave irrationally is a non-Christian? Perhaps other Christians don't follow the teaching of "Loath thy neigbor".

I just realized that "I'm a Christian so I'm being persecuted" might not fly that well if the judge is also a Christian (statistically likely) and he has already called the FBI on her.
[quote=Jadedcritic]The real irony is, I’m gonna set aside my John Bruce Thompson hatred for a minute. I’m not COMPLETELY against his agenda. I’m really not. I’ll be specific. At one point, Jack was calling for a federally regulated ESRB. I don’t particularly like that idea, but it’s not for first amendment reasons really, I would oppose it only because big government is usually incredibly ineffectual at getting things done. So sure, we’d have a government ESRB that likely wouldn’t be any better then the one we currently have, and would come out of taxpayer money. THAT SAID, a federally regulated ESRB is pretty mild - I don’t like it, but I could live with it. It’s not the end of the world! If compromise was actually possible with people like Jack, I would agree to something like that. Problem is, I have a hard time believing that Jack would know what a compromise is if a truck full of them hit him on the highway. [/quote]

While the idea is indeed a good one, this is where it gets problematic. (i advise you to go read the comments on the byron report piece here on GP)

Most US citizens there appear to seriously get their panties in a knot over the mere suggestion that the government should cooperate with such an entity. (either because they don't trust the federal government, or their motivations)
But most seem almost violently opposed to what many are quoting as a possible violation of their rights. :) (sounds familiar doesn't it?) Even though it would probably silence 99% of the current gaming-haters.
@Heavy

"By using this defense, he’s trying to make it seem like the courts are discriminating against him for his religion. That, of course, is crap."

See the parts where the Bar lawyer basically goes "yeah, yeah, we've already dealt with this in our closing remarks we filed, you've brought it up before..."
@Jabrwock:

She seems pretty confident that she's way ahead on points at the end there, don't she? She could be right.
The closing statement an interesting insight into Jack's view of the world. While I wouldn't personally consider him Christian in any correct sense it certainly seems that he believes he is. I also find it amusing how he aims to squash the First Amendment rights of others while claiming such protection for his own statements to the extent that Bar and court rules should not apply to him because of his religious beliefs. I'm no lawyer (and not an American for that matter), but I can't see him squirming out of this one.
Once again, we have Tuma referring to Judge Tunis as "Your Honor" and Thompson calling her "Judge". Has Thompson ever called her "Your Honor"?

Not a big deal, but an obvious "little thing" that shows his lack of respect.
so i saw a lot of "wah wah wah, God told me to say bad things... wah wah wah, my wife was sick"

what kind of asshole uses his sick wife as an excuse to be a public jackass?
Congrats with the mention on G4tv.com!
I think this one ranks right up there with the chewbacca defense. I now proclaim the Jmmdi (jesus made me do it) defense as officially part of the south park stratagey
"I have duty, as Jesus did, to confront the Pharisees and say: “You are hypocrites. You are liars. You are whited sepulchers. You’re in a den of thieves,” and so forth… "

Blasphemy much?

Can anyone really listen to this guy without wanting to punch him?
I won't be happy until this nut is in a padded cell.
@vinniethewop

I have a severe problem with the doctrine of papal infalibility, among many others...

I hate to stray further off topic, but I'm kinda curious as to what your complaint about that point is. It's been used all of a half a dozen times to my knowledge. So I never see it as a big point of contention personally, but it seems to get brought up a fair amount

Returning to the topic:

@Azhrarn, Death-of-Faxmachines

Most US citizens there appear to seriously get their panties in a knot over the mere suggestion that the government should cooperate with such an entity. (either because they don’t trust the federal government, or their motivations)
But most seem almost violently opposed to what many are quoting as a possible violation of their rights. :) (sounds familiar doesn’t it?) Even though it would probably silence 99% of the current gaming-haters.


Actually it goes like this: in general we hate people telling us what to do, and what to think. As such we're really skeptical of anything remotely like censorship. We certainly had a few bad examples over the course of the 1900s to keep us on our toes.
One of the problems, of course, with this \"series\" is that Dennis McCauley has picked the portions of the trial tha the wants to share with you all. He works for a video game industry lobbyist, so this is yellow journalism at its worst. Most of you are so you and so undereducated that you don\'t even know what that term means.

The cool thing about this, though, is that my pending federal lawsuit will allow me to subpoena certain documents from Mr. McCauley and from his parent entity, ECA, to discover all sorts of interesting things. Talk about the rule of unintended consequences.

Dennis, I missed your news story here about my appearance on Fox News today. You don\'t actually censor news here, do you?

Peace, out. Jack Thompson

GP: hey, you got about 90% of your closing posted, about 90% of your cross examination. You were offered the chance to comment and you declined.

If you think I'm frightened by the word "subpoena", I'm not. If you think I've got something to hide, I don't. I'm not the one that tried to suppress this series with a B.S. threat.

And as far as your appearance today, why in the world would GamePolitics cover you talking about a potential Hollywood, Florida city ordinance to limit the display of US flags along a certain stretch of road? I think even you can comprehend that that's a little outside GP's scope.

Although, I must say that I did the find the caption which Fox displayed under your mug - "First Amendment Lawyer" - both amusing and ironic.
@gray17, without going too much into a theological discussion, for me it goes towards the arrogance of man to speak for god. Its part and parcel with the Infallibility of the church...that certain teachings of the Sacred Magisterium are also infallible. It also had nothing to do with the original church, and was invented to consolidate power during a time when the Vatican was at its most brutal (circe the 13th century) and was filled with charlatans, and bigots. Considering people of the past knew less about the world around them than a 3rd grader of today knows, I tend to have much doubt in anything they decided to decree and claim was infallible. I am very aware it is rarely used, but since it was a cause for the shism of the church, the use of it obviously was a big problem, and probably never should have entered the dogma of the church.
whups....that should be "circa" not "circe"...not turning anybody into animals in the 13th century, heheh....although if they were they would've been burned for being a witch!!!
So basically in his closing statement, he's tooting his own horn. It's good to toot your own horn every now and then, but god, this is just ridiculous. DON'T DO THAT KIND OF SHIT DURING A TRIAL DAMMIT!!!
"I think these [Florida Bar] people don’t have any - don’t have a sense of democracy in their bodies. They don’t understand what freedom is about. They don’t understand that the great infringer of freedoms in our nation’s history and world history is government...."

....And people who tell me what I can or cannot buy when I'm the legal age to do so.
@JDKJ, Jabrwock -- I don't know if you've ever seen any episodes of the short-lived Clerks animated series, but there's an episode where Jay sues the Quickie Mart for $10 million dollars, and Randall ends up acting as Dante's attorney (and screwing everything up). At the end of the trial, Randall's closing argument consists of a parody of JFK. When asked for closing arguments, Jay's attorney is shown building a ship in a bottle and says "none needed."

I kind of pictured that scene at the end of this hearing.
"He works for a video game industry lobbyist, so this is yellow journalism at its worst. Most of you are so you and so undereducated that you don\’t even know what that term means."

There's so much irony in that statement when he calls us "undereducated." I mean, is that even English?
@GP:

I fear you may be overestimating Mr. Thompson's ability to understand the concept of "scope." I'm not so sure he at all get's it.
@ Jack Thompson, Attourney:

Wait... did you just try to pull off a "Peace, out"? Most of what you say in that short post doesn't fall under the word "peace."

Oh, and...

yellow journalism (n.); journalism that distorts news to gain audience through sensationalism

Dennis is also considering posting the entire transcript at some point, so your transparent attempts to discredit him become moot.
I don't quite get why Jack feels the need to end his post with "peace out". Is he trying to prove how "hip" he is? I wish him the best of luck with that endeavor. Also, I love that he accuses us of being undereducated, and can't bring himself to use proper sentence wording. If he wants to help his cause, he'd be better off not posting here, where everything he says seems to border on self-parody.
@Dog Welder:

I pictured her staring at the clock on the wall while Thompson did his thing. Not even taking notes. Matter of fact, pen and paper were long packed in the ol' briefcase, ready to go out the door.
Of course, Jack Thompson didn't exactly help his case by pleading that people were 'out to get him' using technicalities, and then proceeded to spend the next several weeks 'out to get' the Judge through a technicality ;)

Sort of drilled the bottom out of his own boat really....
"Most of you are so you and so undereducated that you don\’t even know what that term means."

Self-ownage at its finest. If you are going to call people undereducated, how about actually using correct grammar?

Most of you are so you and so......

Priceless!!!

What's the matter Jack, were you frothing too much at the mouth to actual make a coherrant post?
@Ragnaar:

"Dennis is also considering posting the entire transcript at some point, so your transparent attempts to discredit him become moot."

He didn't get "rule of completeness" at is hearing. You're talking to him about the rule's theoretical basis: full and fair context. If he didn't get it then, what make's you think he's going to now grasp it any better than he did at his hearing?

Ya'll be giving Jack way too much credit.
It's been ages since I saw genuine Thompson in here....

Funny how he defined himself using Batman and yet sounds more like a super-villain..'You may have defeated me this time, Spiderman, but my federal lawsuit will finish you for certain! Nyahahahahaha!!'
Just so everyone knows, Us Christian gamers have no love for jack thompson. Christ told us to spread our message through peaceful means.....not unabated harassment. Don't look poorly on us because of this deluded individual
"One of the problems, of course, with this \”series\” is that Dennis McCauley has picked the portions of the trial tha the wants to share with you all. He works for a video game industry lobbyist, so this is yellow journalism at its worst. Most of you are so you and so undereducated that you don\’t even know what that term means."

For the last time, Dennis doesn't 'work' for anyone outside of being an ECA subsidiary. Which is NOT, repeat, NOT, owned by the video game industry.

And he didn't post the whole thing because this is GAMEpolitics.com. Why post things that aren't at all related to video games? You of all people should know this.

"The cool thing about this, though, is that my pending federal lawsuit will allow me to subpoena certain documents from Mr. McCauley and from his parent entity, ECA, to discover all sorts of interesting things. Talk about the rule of unintended consequences."

Oh yes, you'll simply dredge up a comment or two from a few anonymous posters. Whoop dee freaking doo. You'll only dredge up your OWN garbage as well, or wouldn't you know that? Pretty stupid thing for a lawyer like yourself to forget, wouldn't you think?

"Dennis, I missed your news story here about my appearance on Fox News today. You don\’t actually censor news here, do you?"

1. Not every little move you make is news-worthy.
2. No one watches Fox News, especially at the time you were probably on the air.
3. We'd probably only hear the same thing you've said a billion times, why watch it at all?
4. So you got on TV. Big whoop. I got a two-second spot on local news walking in front of an anchor at my college. That doesn't mean i'm magically better than anyone else.

You got me interested and i'll find the clip, but otherwise, no one gives a flying monkey that you were on TV today. Please stop bragging like a child.

"Peace, out. Jack Thompson"

At least you're not insulting our troops anymore with your 'Hooah's' Congratulations. You're one step closer to reaching adulthood beyond your chronological age.
@JDKJ:

So you're suggesting I use simpler concepts for next time?
@Ragnaar:

I'd take a page outta Jack's play book. Start with pictures. Then simple, mono-syllabic words. If he shows progress, try some sentences. But only if he's showing progress wiith simple words and pictures. You can't get ahead of him.
You know, thinking about it, it must have been at least a year since I last saw a post from Thompson that didn't contain a legal threat somewhere in it, nor a post on GamePolitics from him that wasn't a poor shadow of the 'divide and conquer' mentality.

As you may have guessed, I'm as intimidated about his latest threat to 'get all our details' as I was by the exact same threats he was making several years ago.

Like the spate of Catapult incidents that would accompany the release of Bully, I'm still waiting for it to happen...
To Jack Thompson:

You pretty much choose what you want when you talk on TV about games and gamers. And also, you lie.
@Jack Thompson, Attorney

Whoooo! Thanks for the good laugh, man! I needed one. It's been quite hectic with my classes lately and little LOL'ing did wonders. Say, maybe you could come to my college. See, I'm taking a Play Writing class this semester. We've been working on writing for comedy and I must say your stuff is pure gold. Perhaps you'd be so kind as to give us a few pointers?
undereducated....
... coming from this man.
irony.


is there actually someone past middle school that doesn't know what Yellow journalism is?!?

maybe if Jack used a little more 'mental masturbation' he could do something than use the same phrases over and over.
I am not a Lawyer, or even paid especially close attention to this case. But from what I have heard recently. As well as what I have read here, it brings to mind the old saying about Lawyers representing themselves having fools for clients.


As for Jack's post here. I actually laughed to the point of being breathless.
Not only does he attempt to threaten a source of news and opinions, but he actually points out that said source didn't run a story that has NOTHING to do with that source's chosen bailiwick (Not that I trust Fox news to report about a dog being hit by a car without accusing a grand "Liberal conspiracy" but thats another day's rant).
Sorry, forgot to say. Dennis, Keep it up.
yellow journalism (n.); journalism that distorts news to gain audience through sensationalism

kind of like... calling a video game a Columbine Simulator that has graphic acts of gay sex?

kind of like... claiming The Sims has full nudity?
@AdamasDraconis

He probably only mentioned it to make sure we knew he was 'on TV' again.

Yes, he really is that vain. ;)
@Jack Thompson, Attorney

Actually I would think that Yellow Journalism at its worst was when it helped to start a war... But seeing as I'm so undereducated I guess I'll just take your word for it. (By the way, there's this really nifty invention that just came out I think you should check it out. It's called "Spell Check.")

My favorite part of your post was how you yet again tried to bring attention to one of your appearances on a channel almost as biased as yourself.
@goodrobot


And he proved my exactly my point by doing so.
To GoodRobotUs:

What do you expected? He is the embodiment of "attention whore" concept.

Be a TV whore is his own "mental masturbation". I think when he is on TV he is touching himself under the desk and thinking:

"Oh, yes, Gamepolitics readers. Watch me good! Oh yes... TV makes me feel gooooood..."

Yeah, it is disturbing...
@Jack Thompson, Attorney,

"I've been trying to figure something in my head, and maybe you can help me out, yeah? When a person is insane, as you clearly are, do you know that you're insane? Maybe you're just sitting around, reading "Guns and Ammo", masturbating in your own feces, do you just stop and go, "Wow! It is amazing how fucking crazy I really am!"? Yeah. Do you guys do that?"
Jacko says, When you’ve got hypocrites… then I have a right - in fact, I have duty, as Jesus did, the confront the Pharisees and say: “You are hypocrites. You are liars. You are whited sepulchers. You’re in a den of thieves,”

and he says, "He works for a video game industry lobbyist"

So I have this to say to Jacko, “You are a hypocrite. You are a liar. You are a whited sepulcher. You’re in a den of thieves."
"One of the problems, of course, with this \”series\” is that Dennis McCauley has picked the portions of the trial tha the wants to share with you all. He works for a video game industry lobbyist, so this is yellow journalism at its worst. Most of you are so you and so undereducated that you don\’t even know what that term means."

That has to be the most amusingly ironic thing I've seen in weeks. A better example of yellow journalism would be a zealous crusader using national media repeatedly to sensationally attack, say, video games... linking them to crimes that they are not causally linked to, making wildly unproven claims time and again in order to gain the attention of those whom he hopes are too foolish to see the holes and flaws in his arguments.

Wikipedia (and I think we all know how you feel about THAT source of information) would tell you that yellow journalism is "... a pejorative reference to journalism that features scandal-mongering, sensationalism, or other unethical or unprofessional practices by news media organizations or journalists. It has been loosely defined as "not quite libel"."

Scandal-mongering and sensationalism are in fact the hallmarks of your own style, Mr. Thompson, not Dennis'. Your lack of professionalism and professional ethics, and the inquiry thereunto by the Florida Bar Association, are indeed the main point of this series. You are no journalist, true, but you've attempted time and again to insert yourself as an "expert" on massacres and other acts of atrocity, so that you could draw attention to your personal crusade. You've done so with reckless disregard for the truth, and have bullied and shouted down those who tried to argue against you, pressing them with lawsuits and any other forms of harassment you felt expedient. To accuse Dennis of yellow journalism is altogether typical of your own style of yellow journalism, and came as a surprise to nobody I'm sure. You've given us no reason to expect more from you, truth be told.

But still, you made me laugh out loud, for which I thank you, Mr. Thompson.

I'll join with the others who wish your wife a speedy and full recovery.
@ Jack Thompson, (soon-to-be-disbarred) Attorney

I'll dispense with my ususal analyses and astute observations. Instead, Jack, I'll follow the very Chrstian example you set in your own trail. So in the spirit of good Christian fellowship that you so well-demonstrated according to testimony:

GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!!
@Aloro I’ll join with the others who wish your wife a speedy and full recovery."



Yes. Even though we may Dislike, Disagree with, Despise, or just Loath the man. Let's all hope and pray his wife recovers. Though if Jack finds out a pagan is praying for his wife he might have a heart attack.
AdamaDraconis Said

Yes. Even though we may Dislike, Disagree with, Despise, or just Loath the man. Let’s all hope and pray his wife recovers. Though if Jack finds out a pagan is praying for his wife he might have a heart attack.


Well it looks like I might be praying tonight then.

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DarkSaber: http://tinyurl.com/yl2vfw6 Here's the link, good for conspiracy theories.
Posted 11/23/09 at 07:42am
JDKJ: Leaders never follow. Followers never lead.
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DarkSaber: Anyone been following this Hadley Climatic Research Centre server hack story?
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Posted 11/22/09 at 09:45am
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JDKJ: You should get Phil McCraken to help you spackle those banisters.
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JDKJ: No. You gonna stay up late tonight soldering?
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