Video games, as every
GamePolitics reader knows, have become a political football.
It is often easier for elected officials to target the virtual mayhem in games than the real causes of violence in society such as crime, drugs, poverty, mental health issues and the easy availability of guns.
But in the three years in which
GamePolitics has been tracking the nexus of politics and video games, we've noted some truly remarkable displays of political hypocrisy. The five listed below especially stand out. After you take a look, please feel free to vote for your choice of "
biggest political hypocrite." The poll is located in the upper right sidebar.
Boston Mayor Thomas Menino (D): Mayor Menino led a 2006 movement to have ads for
GTA: Vice City Stories removed from public transportation and got the local transit agency to commit to never again carrying an ad for an M-rated game. Now he is at the center of a legislative proposal that would equate violent games with pornography. In between attacks on video games, Menino hopes to
lure game developers to set up shop in Boston. Because it's, you know, such a game-friendly city...
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R): The man who signed California's 2005 video game into law, and ordered the state to appeal a 2007 ruling by a U.S. District Court judge that the law was unconstitutional, is himself the star of many a violent movie. What's more, he appears in character in several violent games based on the
Terminator films. Like the one pictured...
Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D): Gov. Sebelius threw her support behind an unsuccessful 2006 attempt to legislate video games. Earlier this year it was revealed that Gov. Sebelius' son John created a
Grand Theft Auto-like board game called
Don't Drop the Soap and marketed it from the taxpayer-funded Governor's residence.
New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer (D): During his 2006 election campaign Spitzer railed against video game content, saying, "
Nothing under New York State law prohibits a fourteen-year old from walking into a video store and buying… a game like ‘Grand Theft Auto,’ which rewards a player for stealing cars and beating people up. Children can even simulate having sex with a prostitute…" As everyone now knows, it was the "
sex with a prostitute" part that brought Spitzer himself down in 2008. He shoulda played GTA instead...
British Labour MP Keith Vaz: Vaz got into the video game violence debate in 2004 when a 14-year-old constituent, Stefan Pakeerah, was brutally murdered. Vaz alleged that the controversial Rockstar title
Manhunt inspired the crime. A Scotland Yard investigation, however, established no such link. Vaz would go on to criticize Rockstar's
Bully and
Manhunt 2 games. While he has attacked the make-believe crime of video games, Vaz, as
documented by the BBC, carries significant real-world ethical baggage.
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I still say he was pissed at "simulated sex with hooker" Because he wanted children of all ages to experaince said sex with hooker.
Oh and look at this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6f/The_Terminator_%28SNES%29....
No rating on that game.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/08/toddler.beater.ap/index.html
But I finally voted Vaz because his relentlessly accusations against Manhunt, and his quote about raping women in games.
Menino's logic is pretty flawed.
Vaz is pretty icky, too.
Like I was saying in another post, I think the best way the industry can address that is by having the game dvelopment studios based there like 2K Boston pack up and leave and other studios considering moving there not to come in at all. It'd be kind of the video game industry equivalent of "not gonna play Sun City."
I hate the small minded pillock.
If he actually had facts to back what he says up then I wouldn't care.
He wants publishers and developers to move to his city to make their games then use the money he gets in taxes from those companies to draft legislation against them? Not going to work out well.
As for Spitzer? Meh, I think he was a fall guy for someone with more pull that uses the agency.
Vaz is not so much a hypocrite as a straight-up liar. He's been frequently told that what he's saying is factually inaccurate, but chosen to ignore such comments, instead choosing to play the victim in parliament (claiming to be "pilloried by the games media", while also refusing to talk to said media) to continue to further his political career, which, yes, is built on shady dealings.
Spitzer (not pictured) probably isn't so bad. He's always made a point of complaining that it's *children* who shouldn't be seeing prostitution in GTA, and for him as an *adult* to partake in it is not directly comparable. As well as that, he had the balls to step down from office when he was caught -heh- with his pants down. For the sake of this comment, I am disregarding any non-gaming positions he may have had politically, especially regarding prostitution. If he has vocally supported anti-prostituton laws, however, then consider him to be the most hypocritical of the hypocrites.
As such, I must select Sebelius and Schwarzenegger to tie for the prize- the former for criticising one media form for touching on a subject while actively encouraging another to do the same, and the latter for criticising something while he himself is profiting from it.
However, all five of them do not deserve their places in office. The first four for being so foolish as to pitch such clearly doomed laws, knowing full well that their laws would be struck down on First Amendment grounds, and the fifth for being slimy and deceitful, even by politician standards.
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He's not a politician (despite what he thinks in his deluded, rotting brain).
I went for Sebelius, over Schwarzenagger, as she just went on about how wonderful her son was, despite pillorying an industry for the very things he put in his game.
It's a good thought - I'm not sure if it would be very practical for the studios already camped in Boston, but I would think it would be a possibility.
@ beemoh
I fail to see how Menino's statements are in any way "fair". I don't see how the legislation he wants to put forward and the so-called invite to companies would be "giving back" to the gaming industry. In fact, I feel that's greedy.
I'm going to have to go with Arnie, he seems to have the most actual connection to the "violent" media he speaks out against, plus he's my governor.
In terms of hypocrisy relating to games? The Governator, hands down.
Yes, he should never have attempted the censorship bills in the first place, but at the very least he offered a sweetener to the whole deal.
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Spitzer runs second as while he is a hypocrite, he did clear himself out of the way when he got caught. Sort of a "Ok, you got me doing something bad, I'll go quietly now."
Vaz runs last as he hasn't really done anything hypocritical. Sure he's a liar, but I don't know of him actually doing something contray to his "violence in media is bad" stance.
Menino: here's someone so out of touch with the world around him. He probably doesn't remember doing one or the other, so it's not hypocrisy, it's political quagmire. I would choose him simply because of local ties and the fact that he's supposedly a democrat.
Schwarzenegger: Okay, he was an actor turned politician... republican politician. Here's someone who's been put into office by his party mostly with the "help" of Enron. Former governor Gray Davis was a scapegoat in which republicans capitalized. That doesn't neccessarily make Schwarzenegger a hypocrite. He's simply holding to the ideals of conservative views while in office.
Sebelius: It was her son, not her, that made the game... yes, it happens to be while she's in office. That doesn't make her a hypocrite.
Spitzer: Here's someone who was elected due to his "family values" ideology. So much for that.
Vaz: This guy's just a liar. If it was a matter of how despicable these people are, I think Vaz would be #1 or a close #2.
After examining each person, I have to conclude that Spitzer is, indeed, the biggest hypocrite of the bunch.
Client 9 and the High-Priced Prostitutes would be a great name for a band.
So he really doesn't qualify as the most hypocritical on that list. :D
I voted for Arnie. He made his millions off of violent media (that I watched as a child and am no worse for wear), and now he's supporting restrcitions on it? Vote-pandering hypocrisy to a letter.
Spitzer does have quite the impact over here....
I wonder if he is aware of this vote....
I went with Spitzer simply because he made himself Mr. Squeaky Clean even though he was a dirty boy.
Followed by Ahhhhrnold.
I went with Keith Vaz -- the others could be explained away as being simply misinformed on gaming issues, but Vaz is the one who's deliberately ignoring the counter-evidence to his number one issue.
Same with the Terminator one, but at least T2000 bears a strong likeness to Arnie.
I didn't say that sort of thing would be easy. But sometimes if you want to make a stand for what's right, you have to make sacrifices.
It's like all of those "Made In America" stickers on products. The products themselves are made in Mexico, but the "Made In America" sticker was actually made in America. The sticker isn't saying that the product was made here--it's saying where the sticker was made. You have to think about it reeeeaaaally carefully, in order to get past the bull. And after thinking about it, Spizter is off the hook.
Arnie, though, got to where he is by exterminating people in movies. His image is used in a couple games, and I'm sure he's getting royalty checks from it all. And now he's like, "Children! Get to da choppa!"
So, Arnie wins.
Kansas's Gov.: Funny, but it would have been a bigger problem had SHE made the game herself.
NY's Gov.: More of a problem along the lines of his complaints about prostitution. He was an adult and so was she.
Vazzy: A combo of John Bruce and Boston's Mayor. A boob in general.
So that leaves Arnie.
While the argument about his involvment in the movie industry are extremely valid, especially the recent Conan issue, there is another issue that sets him apart.
The Oxnard school shooting.
We'd heard plenty from old child psychologist Leland Yee about the effects of violent video games on kids. And Arrnie had no problem parroting and supporting those views. He vehemently wants to "protect the children".
But where was Leland Yee, the Governor, and oh so many vocal folks after the school shooting at the Oxnard school because of a claim of homosexuality. And the shooter himself claims he was driven to it by other students who verbally and mentally abused him by making fun of the possibility that the kid who was shot may have had a thing for the shooter.
You can't blame video games for overwhelmingly promoting bigotry and hate. So, using the arugments by so many "experts", we have to assume SOMETHING drove this kid to kill the other kid.
So, what can we blame that would have promoted bigotry and hate, even peripherally (after all, media exposure tends to be peripheral and not so direct, but it gets blamed)? Video games? Books? Movies? TV? What's used to repeatedly teach kids to hate other people who are "inferior" or "immoral". Hmmm....
Uh...
Oh dear...
We can't blame that!
It's more important than the children!
I've got an idea! Let's pretend it didn't happen.
So, what DID we hear from Yee and/or Arnie?
:: chirp chirp chirp ::
Yeah. There's consistancy for ya.
:/
Mind you, I'm glad the event DIDN'T apparently become sensationalised. Nevertheless, it IS a sign of inconsistant behavior on so many individual's, organization's, and politician's part.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
Also his law wouldn't ban violent games just make them illegal to sell to kids and who knows maybe a contract forced him to be in those games.
(Just to be clear I live in California so...)
Firstly, theres something sickening about the game itself. Secondly, there's her defense of it. And finally, she used taxpayers money to promote it.
All in all, she shows about as much decency as a rattlesnake
Gonna think about this one before voting...
Arnie still gets royalties every time his likeness is used . . .
So he's still getting paid for those movies, and the Terminator video games.
If I remember right, the whole Sebelius was overblown and just accusations of misused funds. And accusations don't make a conviction.
Arnold isn't necessarily a hypocrite just for having a game that he wishes to regulate. (though I bet he would not back a bill to regulate violent movies, and then that would qualify as hypocrisy in my book).
Same with Menino; not necessarily a hypocrite just because he's cool with game devs setting up shop in Masshole.
And Vaz, well, the accusations against him are petty, and even if all true, nothing to do with video games or any particular ethic that would make him a hypocrite.
Arnie was the freaking Terminator. He has starred in movies and his likeness has been used in games. (Not terrific games, I might add)
Sebelius is pretty damn outspoken against any and all video games, but when a board game comes along and is more violent than a good portion of said games, she's okay with it.
Spitzer goes without saying.
Menino has no problem essentially calling people scumbags, of whom he wants revenue from. I have a very big fucking problem with that kind of shit.
The Governator has whimped out and forgotten his past. I've forgiven him for it.
Sebelius doesn't mind her son doing things she complains about others doing. Her and millions of other "parents", unfortunately. Fuck her and the rest.
Spitzer was once almost as vitriolic in his attacks on games as old Jacky Boy, then got caught with a whore and hasn't had a thing say ever since. At least he shut up.
Vaz is just a doofus, and since he's on the other side of the pond to me, I'm not particualraly concerned about his hypcorisy. Meh.
So my vote's for Menino. He can cram his "I hate you, give me money" tactic up his ass.
Of the three, Spitzer won. Based on the bio, he lied specifically about the content of the game concerning prostitutes (while you technically could, it's minimally significant) and seemed to have already fell victim to such prostitution. Menino could simply be trying to attract T-rated games, and Schwarzenegger seemed to want M-rated games away from young players (but both botching the attempts to do so.)
Honestly if I went to court, I'm hiring Tack, god he may be wrong on EVERYTHING, but my god would it be amusing, and man can he argue! Unles I'm on trial for a felony, then I'm hiring a DECENT lawyer.
Easy... why? he actually did something ILLEGAL in America.
The Governator, on the other hand, has actually been involved in the gaming industry, even if only directly and at that time made no equivocation about whether or not said games should be marketed to kids.
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger: Close but not really, he did not really do all in real life but then again nether did gamers and there games...
Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius: Don't drop the soap sound like fun the board game not in the prison shower...
British Labour MP Keith Vaz: He lied about what video games had is a big one but that is not bad as....
New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer: HYPOCRITE in every sense of the word. It's diffrent to do it in a video game but in real life. tsk tsk tsk. What's worse is that this bastard is married and have kids. At least in the game you are single....
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wait... that's not him?
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The big faggot is Menino. I already hate him.
...wait is that her? Dang! All is forgiven my good sir.
Thats the prostitute he was caught with, i believe.
...what? He's complained about weirder stuff.
It's just as well he's not, otherwise he would've won (lost?) by a landslide. :P
So, I am going with Spitzer.
Everybody on the list is slime in their own way, especially Vaz, but I just see Menino taking the cake. My favorite article involving him on GP was the one where a reporter asked a Boston prostitute what her opinion on GTA was.
Quit whining about games, Menino, and try to fix your real problems.
Damn was Spizter's downfall funny.Feel REALLY bad for his family,though.
I went with Kathleen, but it's a close call between her and Thomas - in the end Kathleen wins it because she's involved in actually peddling a game, whereas Thomas was just trying to interfere in others' lives.
Menino.
Second would be Vaz, because of his willful ignorance of the facts at hand.
Third would be the mayor of Boston.
Out of curiosity, shouldn't Clinton be mentioned for bashing the ESRB, endorsing it, then bashing it again?
no wonder he's picking games, no one pays attention to him otherwise!
but that's because Jack isn't up there
I voted for Spitzer. You just can't top condemning a virtual action why engaging in the real thing.
I LIKE THAT!!!!
he didn't step down because it was wrong, he stepped down because he had been such a staunch critic of the very things he was caught doing. If he had tried to stay he would have been forced out or no one would listen to him again.
As for the answer? Kind of a tough call, as they're all bastards.
I guess I'd have to say Spitzer.
Still, Arnie's a hypocrite.
This guy even says it is the parents responsibility to maintain what their child plays. Oh yeah? Then why the laws?
Seeblus Gov of the Crap State of Kansas (currently I reside here)
The Democrats picked her to make a rebuttal of the State of the Union Speech a while back. The daily Show picked it up and a lot of times during the speech she goes "Join us Mr. President... join us... Join us Mr President ......Join us." I just rememebered all about that too.
It's a tough call and I'll go with Governator. This is the same guy who was in violent movies and video games as well. Spitzer was stupid enough to get caught.