Who is the Biggest Political Hypocrite? …Vote in New GP Poll

Video games, as every GamePolitics reader knows, have become a political football.

It is often easier for elected officials to target the virtual mayhem in games than the real causes of violence in society such as crime, drugs, poverty, mental health issues and the easy availability of guns.

But in the three years in which GamePolitics has been tracking the nexus of politics and video games, we’ve noted some truly remarkable displays of political hypocrisy. The five listed below especially stand out. After you take a look, please feel free to vote for your choice of “biggest political hypocrite.” The poll is located in the upper right sidebar.

Boston Mayor Thomas Menino (D): Mayor Menino led a 2006 movement to have ads for GTA: Vice City Stories removed from public transportation and got the local transit agency to commit to never again carrying an ad for an M-rated game. Now he is at the center of a legislative proposal that would equate violent games with pornography. In between attacks on video games, Menino hopes to lure game developers to set up shop in Boston. Because it’s, you know, such a game-friendly city…

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R): The man who signed California’s 2005 video game into law, and ordered the state to appeal a 2007 ruling by a U.S. District Court judge that the law was unconstitutional, is himself the star of many a violent movie. What’s more, he appears in character in several violent games based on the Terminator films. Like the one pictured…

Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D): Gov. Sebelius threw her support behind an unsuccessful 2006 attempt to legislate video games. Earlier this year it was revealed that Gov. Sebelius’ son John created a Grand Theft Auto-like board game called Don’t Drop the Soap and marketed it from the taxpayer-funded Governor’s residence.


New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer (D): During his 2006 election campaign Spitzer railed against video game content, saying, “Nothing under New York State law prohibits a fourteen-year old from walking into a video store and buying… a game like ‘Grand Theft Auto,’ which rewards a player for stealing cars and beating people up. Children can even simulate having sex with a prostitute…”  As everyone now knows, it was  the “sex with a prostitute” part that brought Spitzer himself down in 2008. He shoulda played GTA instead…

British Labour MP Keith Vaz: Vaz got into the video game violence debate in 2004 when a 14-year-old constituent, Stefan Pakeerah, was brutally murdered. Vaz alleged that the controversial Rockstar title Manhunt inspired the crime. A Scotland Yard investigation, however, established no such link. Vaz would go on to criticize Rockstar’s Bully and Manhunt 2 games. While he has attacked the make-believe crime of video games, Vaz, as documented by the BBC, carries significant real-world ethical baggage.

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    Anonymous says:

    It’s a tough call and I’ll go with Governator. This is the same guy who was in violent movies and video games as well. Spitzer was stupid enough to get caught.

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    Ebonheart ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Seeblus Gov of the Crap State of Kansas (currently I reside here)

    The Democrats picked her to make a rebuttal of the State of the Union Speech a while back. The daily Show picked it up and a lot of times during the speech she goes “Join us Mr. President… join us… Join us Mr President ……Join us.” I just rememebered all about that too.

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    Vake Xeacons ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’m going with Arnold, our [sic] “beloved Governator” I haven’t been screwed over like this since the 2000 election. Forgive me, everone. I voted for him. If you live in CA, you remember the problems we were having 5 years ago with Davis. Arnold seemed the only logical conclusion. And he wasn’t speaking out against games then. (sigh)

    This guy even says it is the parents responsibility to maintain what their child plays. Oh yeah? Then why the laws?

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    Shadowfox ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’m going with the Governator here. One of the biggest issues critics have with video games are the violence, which can be easily found in movies and TV shows. I mean, Fox News (yeah, I know its just Fox News, but still) got worked up over Mass Effect for a few scenes, but you can watch ANY Bond movie and see the same sort of thing, especially the old ones, which were rated PG.

    Still, Arnie’s a hypocrite.

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    Lard says:

    This is a really good article, and I’d like to see of this kind of thing on GP, rather than endless JT promotion.

    As for the answer? Kind of a tough call, as they’re all bastards.

    I guess I’d have to say Spitzer.

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    DCOW ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    he didn’t step down because it was wrong, he stepped down because he had been such a staunch critic of the very things he was caught doing. If he had tried to stay he would have been forced out or no one would listen to him again.

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    King of Fiji ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I think you forgot Hillary Clinton who is against violence in video games yet will compare herself to Rocky….can’t get anymore hypocritical than that.

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    Thefremen ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    In response to those asking about JT, if it were an overall Hypocrite list he’d win everytime, due to his “First Amendment rights for me but not for anyone else” stance.

    I voted for Spitzer. You just can’t top condemning a virtual action why engaging in the real thing.

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    Grifter_tm ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It was a toss-up between Arnie and Spitzer, but after the Client 9 deal I’m going with Spitzer. His pic should have thought bubble that says, “Sex with a real hooker, meh… Sex with a virtual hooker??!!! Now that’s immoral!!!!”

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    EmeraldDragon says:

    Thomas Menino because he is openly playing both sides of the field. The other guys at least kept it behind closed doors, except Arnold who probably sold his image with the film and thus lost control of it.

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    Dex says:

    I’m going to go with Menino, although Spitzer is very close.

    Out of curiosity, shouldn’t Clinton be mentioned for bashing the ESRB, endorsing it, then bashing it again?

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    BearDogg-X says:

    I voted Arnold for biggest hypocrite simply because he’s still making money off of the violent movies he starred in and the games they were based off of. Hell, even his so-called family-friendly movies(Kindergarten Cop, Jingle All The Way) had violent acts in them.

    Second would be Vaz, because of his willful ignorance of the facts at hand.

    Third would be the mayor of Boston.

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    Jack Wessels ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’m torn between Menino and Spitzer. I have to award points to Menino for being such an idiot, and points to Spitzer for irony…


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    HoRnO ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Vaz! Just because he’s the only one from my country and (very Thompson like) continues to spout media created rubbish as fact when he thinks it’ll serve his purpose.

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    int0xitive says:

    I vote Menino. Being from Boston, I guess I am biased, but at the same time you’ve got a man that banned GTA ads from the sides of buses, and now Rockstar has set up shop a bit outside the city. Gotta love Beantown.

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    hcf ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It’s interesting that everyone went with Spitzer! I think this is ironic actually because Spitzer did step down after he was found out; he said it was wrong, he acted like it was wrong.

    I went with Kathleen, but it’s a close call between her and Thomas – in the end Kathleen wins it because she’s involved in actually peddling a game, whereas Thomas was just trying to interfere in others’ lives.

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    TheEdge ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    For me,it’s a tie between The Guvornator and Spitzer.
    Damn was Spizter’s downfall funny.Feel REALLY bad for his family,though.

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    Ack says:

    I voted Menino, because he is the most vocal about games being terrible, yet wishes to fund his city with their revenue. I equate it to banning cocaine in the city, but producing it in mass quantities for export. Yet, not a month goes by, it seems, where we don’t get a new play from Menino. Honestly, the more I hear about him, the less I like him. I’m glad I don’t live in Boston.

    Everybody on the list is slime in their own way, especially Vaz, but I just see Menino taking the cake. My favorite article involving him on GP was the one where a reporter asked a Boston prostitute what her opinion on GTA was.

    Quit whining about games, Menino, and try to fix your real problems.

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    Digipen89 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I would have gone with Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius if not for the recent Spitzer thing.

    So, I am going with Spitzer.

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    DavCube ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Cue angry Jack Thompson e-mail complaining that he isn’t on this list in 5… 4…

    …what? He’s complained about weirder stuff.

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    Cidas ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    This is a bit childish. If you want to point fingers just like they point fingers at us, it’s pretty childish. It isn’t monkey-see, monkey do.

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    Rodrigo Ybáñez García ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It´s a hard choice. I guess it is Vaz, because all his ethical problems he got. Spitzer, well, at least he already payed for his hypocressy. Schwarzenegger is not a big deal like the others. Sebelius, the same as Arnold.

    The big faggot is Menino. I already hate him.

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    Derek Hale ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It’s gonna be Spitzer for the win. Menino is small time, Arnold went against games after the fact, Sebelius’ child is a boy and boys will be boys, Vaz is useless, who the hell cares about Vaz? Spitzer also mainly wins because he directly bashed prostitution.

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    jesse ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Boston Mayor Thomas Menino: It seems kind of tame compared to others.

    California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger: Close but not really, he did not really do all in real life but then again nether did gamers and there games…

    Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius: Don’t drop the soap sound like fun the board game not in the prison shower…

    British Labour MP Keith Vaz: He lied about what video games had is a big one but that is not bad as….

    New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer: HYPOCRITE in every sense of the word. It’s diffrent to do it in a video game but in real life. tsk tsk tsk. What’s worse is that this bastard is married and have kids. At least in the game you are single….

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    Werrick ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I think Schwarzenegger is by far the most hypocritical. The others have all attempted to keep “porn” out of the hands of kids, but not necessarily tried to ban games altogether.

    The Governator, on the other hand, has actually been involved in the gaming industry, even if only directly and at that time made no equivocation about whether or not said games should be marketed to kids.

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    Zero Beat ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I say Spitzer, closely followed by Schwarzenegger. Menino and Vaz are idiots, and I just can’t say anything bad about Kansas for a while. Something involving a basketball game.

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    Ebonheart ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Freak

    Honestly if I went to court, I’m hiring Tack, god he may be wrong on EVERYTHING, but my god would it be amusing, and man can he argue! Unles I’m on trial for a felony, then I’m hiring a DECENT lawyer.

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    Freak4all ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Spitzner hands down. I found it kinda amusing that the poll was about “biggest political hypocrites” anything less specific would have been won by Jack Thompson I guess…

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    LaxGamer ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Spitzer by a landslide. Aside from Sebelius and Ahnuld, Spitzer’s case is truly ironic: guy who’s against a game that has prostitution in it gets busted for having buttsekz with a prostitute.

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    Sigma 7 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    For me, this is a 3-way contest: Sebelius and Vaz aren’t really hypocrites as they are described in their mini summary. Sebelius merely has a son that either disagrees with her or is making a politically charged game to attract attention to current prison culture. Vaz could easily be treated as if his attacks on video games as a sign of his ethical baggage (i.e. distracting the issue).

    Of the three, Spitzer won. Based on the bio, he lied specifically about the content of the game concerning prostitutes (while you technically could, it’s minimally significant) and seemed to have already fell victim to such prostitution. Menino could simply be trying to attract T-rated games, and Schwarzenegger seemed to want M-rated games away from young players (but both botching the attempts to do so.)

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    Catch 33 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Let’s see:

    Menino has no problem essentially calling people scumbags, of whom he wants revenue from. I have a very big fucking problem with that kind of shit.

    The Governator has whimped out and forgotten his past. I’ve forgiven him for it.

    Sebelius doesn’t mind her son doing things she complains about others doing. Her and millions of other “parents”, unfortunately. Fuck her and the rest.

    Spitzer was once almost as vitriolic in his attacks on games as old Jacky Boy, then got caught with a whore and hasn’t had a thing say ever since. At least he shut up.

    Vaz is just a doofus, and since he’s on the other side of the pond to me, I’m not particualraly concerned about his hypcorisy. Meh.

    So my vote’s for Menino. He can cram his “I hate you, give me money” tactic up his ass.

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    Vinzent says:

    I counted Arnie pretty low since he is not currently making violent films. His actions may reflect more of a change of heart than hypocrisy. I counted Spitzer out because he has been caught. i couldn’t give a flying fig about Vaz. I had to go with Menino.

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I think it also centers around where you are, in the UK, people who play Video Games are unlikely to even care what Spitzer’s opinion on games are, just as most US members aren’t going to consider Vaz any kind of threat to them.

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    Verbinator ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    The Governator wins for me for both the games violence issue and continuing to consider himself a Republican. He needs to align himself with the party that best represents most of his views and decisions of late.

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    point09micron says:

    I’m not clear on why Sebelius is on this list. How is it hypocritical of her to say one thing while her son does something else? If she was saying “parents should prevent kids from ____” it would be hypocritical, but as it is right now I just don’t see it.

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    CenturionRyan says:

    It’s a three way tie between Arnie, Sebelius and Spitzer for me.

    Arnie was the freaking Terminator. He has starred in movies and his likeness has been used in games. (Not terrific games, I might add)

    Sebelius is pretty damn outspoken against any and all video games, but when a board game comes along and is more violent than a good portion of said games, she’s okay with it.

    Spitzer goes without saying.

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    Todd ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Spitzer, FTW!

    If I remember right, the whole Sebelius was overblown and just accusations of misused funds. And accusations don’t make a conviction.

    Arnold isn’t necessarily a hypocrite just for having a game that he wishes to regulate. (though I bet he would not back a bill to regulate violent movies, and then that would qualify as hypocrisy in my book).

    Same with Menino; not necessarily a hypocrite just because he’s cool with game devs setting up shop in Masshole.

    And Vaz, well, the accusations against him are petty, and even if all true, nothing to do with video games or any particular ethic that would make him a hypocrite.

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    ~the1jeffy says:


    Arnie still gets royalties every time his likeness is used . . .

    So he’s still getting paid for those movies, and the Terminator video games.

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    GoodRobotUs ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It’s a tough one to answer because they move up and down in relevance. Menino is a massive hippocrite, but a ‘short term’ one, he tries to force his own opinion on other people without consideration for their point of view, whereas Vaz is like an enraged Hamster, mostly harmless, but constantly there, squeaking at you. Spitzer was a joke, and Sebelius is merely clueless. As for Schwarzenegger, he’s a hippocrite, but one that has, to a large degree, been pressured by his peers and the movie industry, he is between a rock and a hard place. Admittedly, he should have stayed in character and just stood by his own beliefs, which I don’t think he is doing.

    Gonna think about this one before voting…

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    IllegallyMindedJohn says:

    I’ve been having a trouble deciding btwn Arnie and Spitz. But my final thought is, that Spitz is the bigger hypocrite (and I was really pulling for Arnie). My reasoning is the time table. While Arnie seems to forget that violence made him, since becoming an advocate against violence.. has he made a violent movie, has he made a movie since becoming the governator? If not he’s then kept to his word about violence = bad. Spitz on the other hand, said prostitution is bad then went out and found a hooker (I guess he was just making sure it was still bad)… that’s much more hypocritical IMO.

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    paul ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    While it really is a collection of two faced liars and cheats, i think i’m going to go with Kathleen Sebelius

    Firstly, theres something sickening about the game itself. Secondly, there’s her defense of it. And finally, she used taxpayers money to promote it.

    All in all, she shows about as much decency as a rattlesnake

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    Father Time ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I don’t see how believing games cause kids to turn violent and movies don’t, makes Arnold Schwarzenegger a hypocrite. My guess is he blieves that the interactive nature of games makes them more desensitizing or something then movies.

    Also his law wouldn’t ban violent games just make them illegal to sell to kids and who knows maybe a contract forced him to be in those games.

    (Just to be clear I live in California so…)

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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Boston’s Mayor: Just a flat out boob who is completely out of touch with the issues at hand.

    Kansas’s Gov.: Funny, but it would have been a bigger problem had SHE made the game herself.

    NY’s Gov.: More of a problem along the lines of his complaints about prostitution. He was an adult and so was she.

    Vazzy: A combo of John Bruce and Boston’s Mayor. A boob in general.

    So that leaves Arnie.
    While the argument about his involvment in the movie industry are extremely valid, especially the recent Conan issue, there is another issue that sets him apart.

    The Oxnard school shooting.

    We’d heard plenty from old child psychologist Leland Yee about the effects of violent video games on kids. And Arrnie had no problem parroting and supporting those views. He vehemently wants to “protect the children”.

    But where was Leland Yee, the Governor, and oh so many vocal folks after the school shooting at the Oxnard school because of a claim of homosexuality. And the shooter himself claims he was driven to it by other students who verbally and mentally abused him by making fun of the possibility that the kid who was shot may have had a thing for the shooter.

    You can’t blame video games for overwhelmingly promoting bigotry and hate. So, using the arugments by so many “experts”, we have to assume SOMETHING drove this kid to kill the other kid.

    So, what can we blame that would have promoted bigotry and hate, even peripherally (after all, media exposure tends to be peripheral and not so direct, but it gets blamed)? Video games? Books? Movies? TV? What’s used to repeatedly teach kids to hate other people who are “inferior” or “immoral”. Hmmm….


    Oh dear…

    We can’t blame that!

    It’s more important than the children!

    I’ve got an idea! Let’s pretend it didn’t happen.

    So, what DID we hear from Yee and/or Arnie?

    :: chirp chirp chirp ::

    Yeah. There’s consistancy for ya.


    Mind you, I’m glad the event DIDN’T apparently become sensationalised. Nevertheless, it IS a sign of inconsistant behavior on so many individual’s, organization’s, and politician’s part.

    NW2K Software

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    […] wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptVideo games, as every GamePolitics reader knows, have become a political football. It is often easier for elected officials to target the virtual mayhem in games than the real causes of violence in society such as crime, drugs, poverty, mental health issues and the easy availability of guns. But in the three years in which GamePolitics has been tracking the nexus of politics and video games, we’ve noted some truly remarkable displays of political hypocrisy. The five listed below especially stand out. After you take a look, please feel free to vote for your choice of “biggest political hypocrite.” The poll is located in the upper right sidebar. Boston Mayor Thomas Menino (D): Mayor Menino led a 2006 movement to have ads for GTA: Vice City Stories removed from public transportation and got the local transit agency to commit to never again carrying an ad for an M-rated game. Now he is at the center of a legislative […] […]

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    Kris O. says:

    I don’t think that Spitzalloverher can technically be dubbed “a hypocrite,” because he was shouting about kids getting their digital groove on. It’s the same as an adult being able to buy a pack of Camel Lights, while their toddler complains that he can’t buy them yet.

    It’s like all of those “Made In America” stickers on products. The products themselves are made in Mexico, but the “Made In America” sticker was actually made in America. The sticker isn’t saying that the product was made here–it’s saying where the sticker was made. You have to think about it reeeeaaaally carefully, in order to get past the bull. And after thinking about it, Spizter is off the hook.

    Arnie, though, got to where he is by exterminating people in movies. His image is used in a couple games, and I’m sure he’s getting royalty checks from it all. And now he’s like, “Children! Get to da choppa!”

    So, Arnie wins.

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    Black Manta ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ DeusPayne

    I didn’t say that sort of thing would be easy. But sometimes if you want to make a stand for what’s right, you have to make sacrifices.

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    ~the1jeffy says:

    GP, I wonder why you chose to use a picture of the woman Spitzer slept with, and not Spitzer himself. That doesn’t sit well with me.

    Same with the Terminator one, but at least T2000 bears a strong likeness to Arnie.

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    Simon Roberts ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    No mention of the ex-IRA member of Sinn Fein? Then again, considering I can’t even remember his name, I’m not making a great case for him.

    I went with Keith Vaz — the others could be explained away as being simply misinformed on gaming issues, but Vaz is the one who’s deliberately ignoring the counter-evidence to his number one issue.

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    Loudspeaker ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Wow… Tough choice. They’re ALL good choices!

    I went with Spitzer simply because he made himself Mr. Squeaky Clean even though he was a dirty boy.

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    Zerodash ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    There is a saying that “sinners pray the loudest”. It isn’t uncommon for somebody to passionately rail against something while deep down it is their obsession.

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    ~the1jeffy says:

    Right, Spiter is simply winning because he’s recent. It’s ironic that he was caught by a program he started, but far less hypocritical than making millions off of the very thing you are now trying to restrict. He’d be on a par with my choice if he was making money whoring himself out, or at least taking money from prostitutes.

    I voted for Arnie. He made his millions off of violent media (that I watched as a child and am no worse for wear), and now he’s supporting restrcitions on it? Vote-pandering hypocrisy to a letter.

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    Are'el ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I see Spitzer is getting a lot of votes. I’d like to point out that it was the idea of “children” having simulated sex with prostitutes that upset him, not necessariy the “sex with prostitutes” part.

    So he really doesn’t qualify as the most hypocritical on that list. 😀

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    Pinworm ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Gotta go with Spitzer. “Lol guys GTA should be banned ’cause you can simulate doing stuff with prostitutes. TTYL though cuz i’m gunna go do stull with real prostitutes, lol”

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    Dog_Welder says:

    I had to go with Spitzer on this one. The guy ran on a family values platform while also being documented as Client 9 in a prostitution ring bust.

    Client 9 and the High-Priced Prostitutes would be a great name for a band.

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    Way in the lead in my book is Menino, with his “games are porn but bring them here” attitude. In second place comes Eliot “Grand Theft Auto made me do her” Spitzer, and Arnold Schwarzenegger in third. The other two don’t strike me as very hypocritical (Vaz’s problems don’t tie to games too well, and Sebelius’s son is the one making the game, not her).

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    Ragnaar ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Hmmm… hypocrisy… I’ll have to delve further into each one… with my answer down the bottom.

    Menino: here’s someone so out of touch with the world around him. He probably doesn’t remember doing one or the other, so it’s not hypocrisy, it’s political quagmire. I would choose him simply because of local ties and the fact that he’s supposedly a democrat.

    Schwarzenegger: Okay, he was an actor turned politician… republican politician. Here’s someone who’s been put into office by his party mostly with the “help” of Enron. Former governor Gray Davis was a scapegoat in which republicans capitalized. That doesn’t neccessarily make Schwarzenegger a hypocrite. He’s simply holding to the ideals of conservative views while in office.

    Sebelius: It was her son, not her, that made the game… yes, it happens to be while she’s in office. That doesn’t make her a hypocrite.

    Spitzer: Here’s someone who was elected due to his “family values” ideology. So much for that.

    Vaz: This guy’s just a liar. If it was a matter of how despicable these people are, I think Vaz would be #1 or a close #2.

    After examining each person, I have to conclude that Spitzer is, indeed, the biggest hypocrite of the bunch.

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    Gray17 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I went with Schwarzenegger. He profits off of violent movies, and their related licenses, yet he goes against violence in games because it’s the politically good move to do so.

    Spitzer runs second as while he is a hypocrite, he did clear himself out of the way when he got caught. Sort of a “Ok, you got me doing something bad, I’ll go quietly now.”

    Vaz runs last as he hasn’t really done anything hypocritical. Sure he’s a liar, but I don’t know of him actually doing something contray to his “violence in media is bad” stance.

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    beemoh ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @Arashi: That’s why I said “to go anywhere near the concept of give-and-take”- while the situation he would put the games industry in if both his ideas came into play is hardly ideal, compared to other states, who have attempted to pass similar bills and refused to so much as speak with the industry, never mind offer incentives to set up camp there.

    Yes, he should never have attempted the censorship bills in the first place, but at the very least he offered a sweetener to the whole deal.


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    DeusPayne ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ black manta: yeah… because everyone who works at those companies are willing to up and move their family because the company doesn’t like the political air. Fuck that. Maybe wherever you work should just up and leave, leaving you stranded in a shitty job market.

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    Ghede says:

    In terms of overall Hypocrisy? Spitzer. Mostly for his anti-prostitution stance that helped him get elected.
    In terms of hypocrisy relating to games? The Governator, hands down.

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    Void Munashii ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    God, so many great choices….

    I’m going to have to go with Arnie, he seems to have the most actual connection to the “violent” media he speaks out against, plus he’s my governor.

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    Arashi ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Black Manta

    It’s a good thought – I’m not sure if it would be very practical for the studios already camped in Boston, but I would think it would be a possibility.

    @ beemoh

    I fail to see how Menino’s statements are in any way “fair”. I don’t see how the legislation he wants to put forward and the so-called invite to companies would be “giving back” to the gaming industry. In fact, I feel that’s greedy.

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    Mauler ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’ve got to go with Client-9. While the others could be rationalized and denied with conventional logic with details easily available in the public eye, Spitzer did all of his secretly. Cognitive dissonance is one thing but it is something that can’t be applied here.

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    Jeremy says:

    Bah, I was halfway through a long post before I realised that Beemoh has said eveything I was about to, about Menino, Vaz and Spitzer.

    I went for Sebelius, over Schwarzenagger, as she just went on about how wonderful her son was, despite pillorying an industry for the very things he put in his game.

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    beemoh ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Menino is probably the least hypocritical. If anything, we should be praising him for being the only anti-game pol to go anywhere near the concept of give-and-take, in that while he wants to censor games in such a manner as he is, he is willing to play fair and offer to give something back to the games industry, as opposed to the rest of the anti-game lobby, who want the games industry to bend over for them and then thank them for being asked to do so.

    Vaz is not so much a hypocrite as a straight-up liar. He’s been frequently told that what he’s saying is factually inaccurate, but chosen to ignore such comments, instead choosing to play the victim in parliament (claiming to be “pilloried by the games media”, while also refusing to talk to said media) to continue to further his political career, which, yes, is built on shady dealings.

    Spitzer (not pictured) probably isn’t so bad. He’s always made a point of complaining that it’s *children* who shouldn’t be seeing prostitution in GTA, and for him as an *adult* to partake in it is not directly comparable. As well as that, he had the balls to step down from office when he was caught -heh- with his pants down. For the sake of this comment, I am disregarding any non-gaming positions he may have had politically, especially regarding prostitution. If he has vocally supported anti-prostituton laws, however, then consider him to be the most hypocritical of the hypocrites.

    As such, I must select Sebelius and Schwarzenegger to tie for the prize- the former for criticising one media form for touching on a subject while actively encouraging another to do the same, and the latter for criticising something while he himself is profiting from it.

    However, all five of them do not deserve their places in office. The first four for being so foolish as to pitch such clearly doomed laws, knowing full well that their laws would be struck down on First Amendment grounds, and the fifth for being slimy and deceitful, even by politician standards.


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    […] wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptVideo games, as every GamePolitics reader knows, have become a political football. It is often easier for elected officials to target the virtual mayhem in games than the real causes of violence in society such as crime, drugs, poverty, mental health issues and the easy availability of guns. But in the three years in which GamePolitics has been tracking the nexus of politics and video games, we’ve noted some truly remarkable displays of political hypocrisy. The five listed below especially stand out. After you take a look, please feel free to vote for your choice of “biggest political hypocrite.” The poll is located in the upper right sidebar. Boston Mayor Thomas Menino (D): Mayor Menino led a 2006 movement to have ads for GTA: Vice City Stories removed from public transportation and got the local transit agency to commit to never again carrying an ad for an M-rated game. Now he is at the center of a legislative […] […]

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    Dun1031 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Menino is my choice.

    He wants publishers and developers to move to his city to make their games then use the money he gets in taxes from those companies to draft legislation against them? Not going to work out well.

    As for Spitzer? Meh, I think he was a fall guy for someone with more pull that uses the agency.

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    Eville1 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    In my heart I’m going with all of the above. On the Poll I’ll pick Vaz because that damn picture of him haunts my dreams. HE’S A DAMN CHIPMUNK.

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    gs2005 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Spitzer…definitely a pecksniffian. Schwarzenegger is second though because his efforts are more ingenuous (Leland Yee is the bigger problem in this case).

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    Black Manta ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ Arashi

    Like I was saying in another post, I think the best way the industry can address that is by having the game dvelopment studios based there like 2K Boston pack up and leave and other studios considering moving there not to come in at all. It’d be kind of the video game industry equivalent of “not gonna play Sun City.”

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    RollicRillics says:

    Spitzer, while probably not the biggest hypocrite above on video gaming issues, is the biggest one overall. His video game, and anti-prostitution stances that starkly contrasted his illegal private life, are easily complimented by the unethical and deliberate tax-money-wasting methods used to go after businesses he claimed were doing unethical things.

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    Strªngعr_Dªngعr says:

    Three way Tie between Arnold Schwarzenegger, Kathleen Sebelius, Eliot Spitzer. I love Arnie but he can never get rid of his past, and he can’t pretend he was in some very violent movies which had licensed games (and I’m sure a god profit for his likeness). as for Kathleen Sebelius that was just stupid, pure 100% Columbian Hypocrisy. as for Spitzer, well he’s just a douchbag.

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    Arashi ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I had to say Menino. Spitzer comes to mind easily, as well as Schwarzenegger, but Menino is not only trying to pass the “games-as-porn” law, he’s asking the people who make the games to Boston to set up shop. Essentially, “we don’t want your M-rated games, but if you come here, it’s totally cool for you to stay and MAKE them so we can make money from you”.

    Menino’s logic is pretty flawed.

    Vaz is pretty icky, too.

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    cppcrusader ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    This was a tough call. Ultimately I went with the Guvinator for the same reasons tollwutig mentioned. If it weren’t for his political career he would still be blowing stuff up on screen. The only reason he’s against it now is because it makes him look “family friendly”. Besides, I don’t see him refusing his residuals from said movies and games.

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    Soldatlouis ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I hesitated between Spitzer and Keith Vaz. Actually, Spitzer may be the most hypocrite of all, because contrary to Schwarzenegger, who blasts game violence AFTER having starred in violent movies, Spitzer blasted GTA prostitution WHILE he was involved with a real-life prostitute.

    But I finally voted Vaz because his relentlessly accusations against Manhunt, and his quote about raping women in games.

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    tollwutig ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I have to say Arnie on this one, he’s made a career out of violence, and yet now wants to censor it because it is a politically savvy move.

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