Judge in Jack Thompson Bar Trial Requests More Time

April 15, 2008 -
Judge Dava Tunis (left), who presided over the November, 2007 Florida Bar trial of anti-game activist Jack Thompson, has petitioned the Florida Supreme Court for more time in which to issue her decision.

While GamePolitics had been anticipating Tunis' final ruling on Thompson's fate by April 21st, an April 11th Florida Supreme Court docket entry notes the request for a time extension by Judge Tunis.

No additional details appear in the docket entry and it is unclear what is behind Judge Tunis' request. However, in addition to nearly two weeks of testimony, there is a large volume of printed material to be reviewed, especially given Thompson's well-known penchant for sending e-mails, faxes and the like.

Judge Tunis herself has been under attack from Thompson in recent times (then again, who hasn't?). In a claim reminiscent of Catch-22's Great Loyalty Oath Crusade, Thompson alleges that a written loyalty oath required under Florida law was not properly executed by Tunis.

GamePolitics has offered the most extensive coverage of the Thompson trial anywhere. Be sure to check out our exclusive transcripts.

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@lothar

She may be making sure there's no loopholes he can exploit.

I'm not surprised that Judge Tunis would like more time, after all, JT is one of those kinds of people who will argue EVERY little detail to death even if it isn't about the case at hand. Based on her reputation she's probably just being incredibly thorough to make it as air tight as possible.

"Tunis is probably seeking her own extradition to Elba, and that would be a good thing." -Thompson

For crying out loud Thompson, do you even know what "extradition" means?


Andrew Eisen

Well, even for a guy like Jack, disbarring a lawyer is no easy decision. It's almost like weighing a death sentence.

Take your time, Judge.

[WHOOOO HOOOOOOO!!! FIRST COMMENT!!! (I think)]

That's all right, Dava. We can wait longer for Thompson's end. Gives him more time to entertain us.

oh noes!!
Now I have to re-print the invitations :(

Presumably she's taking so long because she wants to dot every i and cross every t.

This extension can't possibly be seen as a good thing for Thompson can it? (Although I'm sure he'll say that it is).

[...] wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptJudge Dava Tunis (left), who presided over the November, 2007 Florida Bar trial of anti-game activist Jack Thompson, has petitioned the Florida Supreme Court for more time in which to issue her decision. While GamePolitics had been anticipating Tunis’ final ruling on Thompson’s fate by April 21st, an April 11th Florida Supreme Court docket entry notes the request for a time extension by Judge Tunis. No additional details appear in the docket entry and it is unclear what is behind Judge Tunis’ request. However, in addition to nearly two weeks of testimony, there is a large volume of printed material to be reviewed, especially given Thompson’s well-known penchant for sending e-mails, faxes and the like. Judge Tunis herself has been under attack from Thompson in recent times (then again, who hasn’t?). In a claim reminiscent of Catch-22’s Great Loyalty Oath Crusade, Thompson alleges that a written loyalty oath required under Florida law was not properly executed by Tunis. GamePolitics […] [...]

@Marticulated

This extension can’t possibly be seen as a good thing for Thompson can it?


Anything is possible.

@OneMan'sOpinion

Want some help with that?

Great, so Jack will still have his license when GTA IV is released.

With any luck he'll threaten T2 and break is agreement with them and get in even more trouble.

For all we know, Judge Tunis is asking for the extension just to spike JT's blood pressure.

Evil...

@Matriculated

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he did. Though, to be honest, he does seem kinda obsessed with R* and T2.

I mean, hell, why hasn't he gone after Bungie for the Halo Trilogy or hell, Nintendo/Retro for the Metroid Prime games? They're 1st-person shooters, violence everywhere! ;)

My point is... I'm surprised he didn't bash Bungie when his kid was allowed to buy Halo 3 without his ID being shown. I may despise him, but I swear, he has other targets than just R* and T2.

@Twin-Skies

Wouldn't be evil, IMO.

Doing it to spike his B.P. would exact her own vengeance for having to put up with him and his antics in the trial.

(sorry for double post)

@Shadow Darkman - He did go after Microsoft due to the violence found in CounterStrike and Halo.

She probably just want footage for the blooper reel... which should last about 3 hours.

The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.

What makes me snicker so much about that loyalty oath is that John Bruce himself could not abide by any such oath. Indeed, on Rumpole's log, The Captain posted certain rules of conduct during a campaign for a seat as a judge which involved not running based on, in effect, discriminatory attitudes. One cannot put forth efforts to campaign based on race, gender, religion, and other such factors. Probably because, over many other positions, a judge should be neutral and showing a preference and higher support for any one group over another would show a bias.

John Bruce has already stated that he can't run an unbias campaign nor could he operate as an honorable, ethical, unbiased judge.

His campaigns and attitudes against homosexuality, his campaigns and attitudes regarding how he feels ONLY HE can decide what is or is not appropriate for other Parent's children, as well as his admitted religious bias (as seen numerous times, even in his court actions), show that if he took any such oath, it would be a lie. He would be incapable of being unbiased and would be incapable of treating any plaintiff or defendant that he had a personal, religious, and/or political difference of opinion with in a fair, honorable, and/or ethical manner.

So I find it laughable that he condemns others for allegedly not doing somehting that he couldn't abide truthfully doing himself.

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I do hope he takes this extra time to go off and break his agreement and get in more trouble, just to prove to the world that he can't behave himself even when he's agreed to.

It will make his fall even greater with less chance of him ever recovering.

More time?
The evidence presented during the trail in court wasn't enough to disbar him outright. She has to read stuff for months and months and still needs more time. Wow she and the Florida Bar are tolerant. After the first word out of his mouth during his disbarment I would have said "Shut it up you! You're a knob, YOUUUU'RREE FIRED!"

actually, i can understand him seeing this as a win, typical court analysis states that the longer the deliberation, the better for the defense

granted thats for jury trials, but i could see Jack trying to push it for this as well

@GameDevMich

Microsoft, yes, but not BUNGIE.

I believe that she's just making sure the coffin stays shut..

@Nightwng2000

Very true. It's quite hypocritical to whine and complain about unfair persecution and judgments against him (even though it's all a result of his own bad behavior and failure to correctly do his job) when he can not possibly manage holding an unbiased court should he be judge. His fanaticism will never let him see how he is actually the thing he complains against and that his complaints are hollow and wrong against whoever he's got in his sights at the time, but eventually there will come a day where everything comes back to haunt him till he realizes all the wrong he's done. At least we can hope he learns his lesson some day.

Jokes aside, we are talking about someone's career and their ability to continue working as a lawyer. This sort of decision should not be rushed. It can also be that the judge has other matters requiring her attention and this is simply being pushed back.

Thompson comes in declaring victory in 3.. 2....

come on how long does it take to see he is bat shit?

Like my friend and I say, whether he's convicted or not, he'll spin this to show how he's a victim, or even worse, a martyr for his "righteous" cause. The only way this guy will truly be taken down is if he's discovered doing something undeniably hypocritical. I'm talking Jimmy Swaggert hypocritical. Until then, I'm sure Gamepolitics will have no end to reporting JT's self-righteous BS.

@ OneMan'sOpinion

Be sure to remember my name! Ill bring the drinks XD

@tony selby,

Jack doesn't want this, he's been demanding that the bar release their ruling right away for awhile now.

Jack != Yossarian.

Just throwin that out there.

Honestly, losing his ability to practice law is the best thing that can happen for gamers everywhere. No more slandering, no more parading as a 'school shooting' expert.

No matter how obvious a ruling is, a judge is still bound to looking over all the evidence before making a decision. Unfortunately for her, the ammount of crap Jack sends out to people (and that's been added into evidence) probably needed an acre of forest cut down to make all the paper. Plus, she has to be careful that nothing she does can be turned around on her by Thompson, who calls foul on everything anyway.

I am sure their is a lot of evedince to wade through....

a lot of gay porn to shift through....

Damn, more time = Jack getting off Scott-free (I really, really, really, hope I'm wrong)

Oh PLEASE let the extension just be 4 days! My birthday is on the 26th (which would be 25th american time) and this would be the best present EVER!

So who thinks that jack will go gun-totting crazy when he finally snaps? The universe seems to enjoy irony of that sort. I'm imagining a public on-air breakdown akin to the one in GTA Vice City by Pastor Richards. That would be quality entertainment (except for the poor guy who gets shot but if he's like the nudist in VCPR, it won't be any great loss)

At a guess she's bogged down in all the crap of Thompson's that was submitted. She's got to wade through all his faxes and emails and such first. That takes time, particularly if she's not a fast reader, and if she has to go over them with a fine tooth comb.

Then of course she's got to write out her decision, which in and of itself would take a while.

So I suppose it isn't too surprising that she's asking for an extention.

Perhaps she is making sure all her bases are covered? I'm sure JT is prepared to try and ruin her life and career like he has tried with others in the past.

Even him losing his license to practice law won't make him go away, or even stop appearing on fox news as a school shooting expert. it will mean, however, that it will be harder for him to file ridiculous numbers of lawsuits. so, it's something.

I think it is a combination of having to go through an overwhelming amount of reading of evidence, and making sure she gets this so precise that there is no loopholes for JT to get around.

Sounds to me like she wants to make sure neither side will be able to claim she's being bias or impartial by reading every single printed page of Thompson's rantings. Which I'm sure there's a lot of.

@Shadow Darkman
While a technicality, at the time when he went after Microsoft for CS Bungie was Microsoft. You go after the parent company/publisher, granted they Bungie had nothing to do with CS. I seem to remember he made some kind of lame ass attempt to block Halo 3, or at least threatened to and bitched about it.

Yeah, didn't he say he was going to stop the sale of Halo 3 before it was released and then got the release date like 2 weeks off or something. Basically was saying he was going to prevent it's release close to a week after it came out, or was that another game?

@cppcrusader

He said he was going ot file a motion ot have it blocked, less than a week before release.

Either he knew it'd fail and just wanted to get under people's skin or his self importance is so hideously bloated that he thought they'd rush it

Damnit! this is like waiting for your favourite game release, only to have it pushed back yet again! nooo! i want my copy of the jack thompson barring adventure!

hmm maybe her printer died trying to print all of Jackass Thompson's useless e-mails?

Ok, I was off, looking back through the archives it looks like JT made his push to ban Halo 3 a full 4 days before its release. Since that gives plenty of time for a full court hearing on it and all, certainly doesn't just show him to be a prick trying to get a mandatory delay while the court goes over his case.

Oh wait, if he wasn't being a prick trying for the mandatory delay he'd file his case well before its release. He'd also have a chance of winning a case too, but we can see his recent track record proves he's incapable of that.

Jack Thompson made an habit of burying all his acquaintances with paper, so I'm not surprised.

And more time Tunis takes to read throughly all this junk means that Thompson can't complain that she was biased or made hasty decision (like a certain judge I heard in a case).

Patience, then. Patience.

Obviously she's doing what she should be.

the judge is making sure that when thompson attempts to appeal that it will be shot down by any and every court.

Now I´m scared. And I´m agree with "more time to decide = better defense" statement.

This is worst than a Law and Order SVU episode when the rapist gets free.

She's waiting to see how Thompson reacts to the launch of GTA IV.

YOU'RE ON THIN ICE JACKIE BOY

Comes now the Plaintiff, John Bruce "Jack" Thompson who tells the court:
"Gamers should put down the controller and get a life! They don't care about anything but their games and are desensitized to violence or caring about others! They should be sentenced to playing a suicide game and get really good at it!"

:: Defense attorney stands and introduces defense exhibit 1: Two articles from today's GP. ::

:: Judge looks at articles:
Gun Control article - 178+ comments at this moment
John Bruce article - 44 comments at this moment ::

Judge: Case dismissed.

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Not a bit surprised, I mean good lord; she's probably trying to get through a mountain of backstory. Sure, I'd like to see Thompson strung out to pasture ASAP and made a checker at best buy. (mmmm...irony...) That said, I can't fault her one bit for needing more time, I hope she gets the extension.
 
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