Judge in Jack Thompson Bar Trial Requests More Time

Judge in Jack Thompson Bar Trial Requests More Time

April 15, 2008
Judge Dava Tunis (left), who presided over the November, 2007 Florida Bar trial of anti-game activist Jack Thompson, has petitioned the Florida Supreme Court for more time in which to issue her decision.

While GamePolitics had been anticipating Tunis' final ruling on Thompson's fate by April 21st, an April 11th Florida Supreme Court docket entry notes the request for a time extension by Judge Tunis.

No additional details appear in the docket entry and it is unclear what is behind Judge Tunis' request. However, in addition to nearly two weeks of testimony, there is a large volume of printed material to be reviewed, especially given Thompson's well-known penchant for sending e-mails, faxes and the like.

Judge Tunis herself has been under attack from Thompson in recent times (then again, who hasn't?). In a claim reminiscent of Catch-22's Great Loyalty Oath Crusade, Thompson alleges that a written loyalty oath required under Florida law was not properly executed by Tunis.

GamePolitics has offered the most extensive coverage of the Thompson trial anywhere. Be sure to check out our exclusive transcripts.

Comments

@lothar

She may be making sure there's no loopholes he can exploit.
I'm not surprised that Judge Tunis would like more time, after all, JT is one of those kinds of people who will argue EVERY little detail to death even if it isn't about the case at hand. Based on her reputation she's probably just being incredibly thorough to make it as air tight as possible.
"Tunis is probably seeking her own extradition to Elba, and that would be a good thing." -Thompson

For crying out loud Thompson, do you even know what "extradition" means?


Andrew Eisen
Well, even for a guy like Jack, disbarring a lawyer is no easy decision. It's almost like weighing a death sentence.

Take your time, Judge.
[WHOOOO HOOOOOOO!!! FIRST COMMENT!!! (I think)]

That's all right, Dava. We can wait longer for Thompson's end. Gives him more time to entertain us.
oh noes!!
Now I have to re-print the invitations :(
Presumably she's taking so long because she wants to dot every i and cross every t.

This extension can't possibly be seen as a good thing for Thompson can it? (Although I'm sure he'll say that it is).
[...] wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptJudge Dava Tunis (left), who presided over the November, 2007 Florida Bar trial of anti-game activist Jack Thompson, has petitioned the Florida Supreme Court for more time in which to issue her decision. While GamePolitics had been anticipating Tunis’ final ruling on Thompson’s fate by April 21st, an April 11th Florida Supreme Court docket entry notes the request for a time extension by Judge Tunis. No additional details appear in the docket entry and it is unclear what is behind Judge Tunis’ request. However, in addition to nearly two weeks of testimony, there is a large volume of printed material to be reviewed, especially given Thompson’s well-known penchant for sending e-mails, faxes and the like. Judge Tunis herself has been under attack from Thompson in recent times (then again, who hasn’t?). In a claim reminiscent of Catch-22’s Great Loyalty Oath Crusade, Thompson alleges that a written loyalty oath required under Florida law was not properly executed by Tunis. GamePolitics […] [...]
@Marticulated

This extension can’t possibly be seen as a good thing for Thompson can it?


Anything is possible.

@OneMan'sOpinion

Want some help with that?
Great, so Jack will still have his license when GTA IV is released.

With any luck he'll threaten T2 and break is agreement with them and get in even more trouble.
For all we know, Judge Tunis is asking for the extension just to spike JT's blood pressure.

Evil...
@Matriculated

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he did. Though, to be honest, he does seem kinda obsessed with R* and T2.

I mean, hell, why hasn't he gone after Bungie for the Halo Trilogy or hell, Nintendo/Retro for the Metroid Prime games? They're 1st-person shooters, violence everywhere! ;)

My point is... I'm surprised he didn't bash Bungie when his kid was allowed to buy Halo 3 without his ID being shown. I may despise him, but I swear, he has other targets than just R* and T2.
@Twin-Skies

Wouldn't be evil, IMO.

Doing it to spike his B.P. would exact her own vengeance for having to put up with him and his antics in the trial.

(sorry for double post)
@Shadow Darkman - He did go after Microsoft due to the violence found in CounterStrike and Halo.
She probably just want footage for the blooper reel... which should last about 3 hours.
The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.
What makes me snicker so much about that loyalty oath is that John Bruce himself could not abide by any such oath. Indeed, on Rumpole's log, The Captain posted certain rules of conduct during a campaign for a seat as a judge which involved not running based on, in effect, discriminatory attitudes. One cannot put forth efforts to campaign based on race, gender, religion, and other such factors. Probably because, over many other positions, a judge should be neutral and showing a preference and higher support for any one group over another would show a bias.

John Bruce has already stated that he can't run an unbias campaign nor could he operate as an honorable, ethical, unbiased judge.

His campaigns and attitudes against homosexuality, his campaigns and attitudes regarding how he feels ONLY HE can decide what is or is not appropriate for other Parent's children, as well as his admitted religious bias (as seen numerous times, even in his court actions), show that if he took any such oath, it would be a lie. He would be incapable of being unbiased and would be incapable of treating any plaintiff or defendant that he had a personal, religious, and/or political difference of opinion with in a fair, honorable, and/or ethical manner.

So I find it laughable that he condemns others for allegedly not doing somehting that he couldn't abide truthfully doing himself.

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
I do hope he takes this extra time to go off and break his agreement and get in more trouble, just to prove to the world that he can't behave himself even when he's agreed to.

It will make his fall even greater with less chance of him ever recovering.
More time?
The evidence presented during the trail in court wasn't enough to disbar him outright. She has to read stuff for months and months and still needs more time. Wow she and the Florida Bar are tolerant. After the first word out of his mouth during his disbarment I would have said "Shut it up you! You're a knob, YOUUUU'RREE FIRED!"
actually, i can understand him seeing this as a win, typical court analysis states that the longer the deliberation, the better for the defense

granted thats for jury trials, but i could see Jack trying to push it for this as well
@GameDevMich

Microsoft, yes, but not BUNGIE.
I believe that she's just making sure the coffin stays shut..
@Nightwng2000

Very true. It's quite hypocritical to whine and complain about unfair persecution and judgments against him (even though it's all a result of his own bad behavior and failure to correctly do his job) when he can not possibly manage holding an unbiased court should he be judge. His fanaticism will never let him see how he is actually the thing he complains against and that his complaints are hollow and wrong against whoever he's got in his sights at the time, but eventually there will come a day where everything comes back to haunt him till he realizes all the wrong he's done. At least we can hope he learns his lesson some day.
Jokes aside, we are talking about someone's career and their ability to continue working as a lawyer. This sort of decision should not be rushed. It can also be that the judge has other matters requiring her attention and this is simply being pushed back.
Thompson comes in declaring victory in 3.. 2....
come on how long does it take to see he is bat shit?
Like my friend and I say, whether he's convicted or not, he'll spin this to show how he's a victim, or even worse, a martyr for his "righteous" cause. The only way this guy will truly be taken down is if he's discovered doing something undeniably hypocritical. I'm talking Jimmy Swaggert hypocritical. Until then, I'm sure Gamepolitics will have no end to reporting JT's self-righteous BS.
@ OneMan'sOpinion

Be sure to remember my name! Ill bring the drinks XD
@tony selby,

Jack doesn't want this, he's been demanding that the bar release their ruling right away for awhile now.
Jack != Yossarian.

Just throwin that out there.

Honestly, losing his ability to practice law is the best thing that can happen for gamers everywhere. No more slandering, no more parading as a 'school shooting' expert.
No matter how obvious a ruling is, a judge is still bound to looking over all the evidence before making a decision. Unfortunately for her, the ammount of crap Jack sends out to people (and that's been added into evidence) probably needed an acre of forest cut down to make all the paper. Plus, she has to be careful that nothing she does can be turned around on her by Thompson, who calls foul on everything anyway.
I am sure their is a lot of evedince to wade through....

a lot of gay porn to shift through....
Damn, more time = Jack getting off Scott-free (I really, really, really, hope I'm wrong)
Oh PLEASE let the extension just be 4 days! My birthday is on the 26th (which would be 25th american time) and this would be the best present EVER!

So who thinks that jack will go gun-totting crazy when he finally snaps? The universe seems to enjoy irony of that sort. I'm imagining a public on-air breakdown akin to the one in GTA Vice City by Pastor Richards. That would be quality entertainment (except for the poor guy who gets shot but if he's like the nudist in VCPR, it won't be any great loss)
At a guess she's bogged down in all the crap of Thompson's that was submitted. She's got to wade through all his faxes and emails and such first. That takes time, particularly if she's not a fast reader, and if she has to go over them with a fine tooth comb.

Then of course she's got to write out her decision, which in and of itself would take a while.

So I suppose it isn't too surprising that she's asking for an extention.
Perhaps she is making sure all her bases are covered? I'm sure JT is prepared to try and ruin her life and career like he has tried with others in the past.
Even him losing his license to practice law won't make him go away, or even stop appearing on fox news as a school shooting expert. it will mean, however, that it will be harder for him to file ridiculous numbers of lawsuits. so, it's something.
I think it is a combination of having to go through an overwhelming amount of reading of evidence, and making sure she gets this so precise that there is no loopholes for JT to get around.
Sounds to me like she wants to make sure neither side will be able to claim she's being bias or impartial by reading every single printed page of Thompson's rantings. Which I'm sure there's a lot of.

@Shadow Darkman
While a technicality, at the time when he went after Microsoft for CS Bungie was Microsoft. You go after the parent company/publisher, granted they Bungie had nothing to do with CS. I seem to remember he made some kind of lame ass attempt to block Halo 3, or at least threatened to and bitched about it.
Yeah, didn't he say he was going to stop the sale of Halo 3 before it was released and then got the release date like 2 weeks off or something. Basically was saying he was going to prevent it's release close to a week after it came out, or was that another game?
@cppcrusader

He said he was going ot file a motion ot have it blocked, less than a week before release.

Either he knew it'd fail and just wanted to get under people's skin or his self importance is so hideously bloated that he thought they'd rush it
Damnit! this is like waiting for your favourite game release, only to have it pushed back yet again! nooo! i want my copy of the jack thompson barring adventure!
hmm maybe her printer died trying to print all of Jackass Thompson's useless e-mails?
Ok, I was off, looking back through the archives it looks like JT made his push to ban Halo 3 a full 4 days before its release. Since that gives plenty of time for a full court hearing on it and all, certainly doesn't just show him to be a prick trying to get a mandatory delay while the court goes over his case.

Oh wait, if he wasn't being a prick trying for the mandatory delay he'd file his case well before its release. He'd also have a chance of winning a case too, but we can see his recent track record proves he's incapable of that.
Jack Thompson made an habit of burying all his acquaintances with paper, so I'm not surprised.

And more time Tunis takes to read throughly all this junk means that Thompson can't complain that she was biased or made hasty decision (like a certain judge I heard in a case).

Patience, then. Patience.
Obviously she's doing what she should be.

the judge is making sure that when thompson attempts to appeal that it will be shot down by any and every court.
Now I´m scared. And I´m agree with "more time to decide = better defense" statement.

This is worst than a Law and Order SVU episode when the rapist gets free.
She's waiting to see how Thompson reacts to the launch of GTA IV.

YOU'RE ON THIN ICE JACKIE BOY
Comes now the Plaintiff, John Bruce "Jack" Thompson who tells the court:
"Gamers should put down the controller and get a life! They don't care about anything but their games and are desensitized to violence or caring about others! They should be sentenced to playing a suicide game and get really good at it!"

:: Defense attorney stands and introduces defense exhibit 1: Two articles from today's GP. ::

:: Judge looks at articles:
Gun Control article - 178+ comments at this moment
John Bruce article - 44 comments at this moment ::

Judge: Case dismissed.

Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
Not a bit surprised, I mean good lord; she's probably trying to get through a mountain of backstory. Sure, I'd like to see Thompson strung out to pasture ASAP and made a checker at best buy. (mmmm...irony...) That said, I can't fault her one bit for needing more time, I hope she gets the extension.
Don't forget she's doing this while overseeing her regular number of cases. One of those could be the reason for the delay since we don't know what her docket is like.
I understand her need for more time, even though I'd really like to know her decision soon. Hopefully she's just messing with Thompson by giving him false hope that she's actually still considering.
@T5

When you say Scott-free, surely you don't mean Scott Ramsoomair, right?

(This joke was based on the E-mail Conversation between Ramsoomair and JT recorded on VGCats)
I'm glad she's taking her time to read all those emails.
Gives us the decistion on the 29th!
Well, look at it this way, if Jack Thompson isn't disbarred then it simply proves him right, the Florida Bar is a dysfunctional mess ;)

Seriously though, when you put as much rope round your own neck as Thompson did, it takes a long time to reach the end. When you are a Judge being threatened, along with the entire establishment you represent you have two choices, you can either give leeway or put the guy on his ass so hard he ain't never getting up. I get the feeling both the State and Supreme court left the leeway behind when it became apparent that Thompson doesn't know the meaning of the word 'compromise'.
@Ebonheart

How the hell do you know that? :o Can you link to where you heard that?

@GoodRobotUs

I'm still shocked they didn't nail him for contempt all that time ago.
“…Thompson alleges that a written loyalty oath required under Florida law was not properly executed by Tunis.” -GP

For anyone wondering what this is about, Thompson alleges that Tunis has three Loyalty Oaths floating around out there. One is correct and notarized, the other two are the wrong oath and not notarized. Here’s Thompson’s Tunis Oath signing timeline:

September 12, 2000 – Correct Oath and notarized

On January 17, 2003 – Wrong Oath and not notarized

On September 29, 2005 - Wrong Oath and not notarized

You see, according to Thompson, the signature on the first does not match the signature on the last two so the former must be a forgery! As such, Tunis never officially took her Oath and deserves the boot.

Ignoring the fact that people’s signatures can change over the years, Thompson’s conclusion doesn’t follow any semblance of logic. If anything, it seems more probable that the last two are forgeries (you know, being the wrong Oath and not notarized and all).

At the end of the day, nothing I’ve seen indicates that the original is invalid and as such, Tunis did take her Oath and is in the clear. Thompson is going to need to present something a lot more compelling then two “wrong Oaths” that aren’t notarized and have signatures that don’t match Tunis’s signature on a notarized document.


Andrew Eisen
@Andrew Eisen

Do the "wrong" Oaths still apply, though?
I always thought an Oath didn't come with an expiry date, that was the whole point of them?
Is there any information present that proves they're they wrong oath?

What if the later oaths are intentionally different to focus on reaffirming the first oath as opposed to taking the same oath over and over again?
If you can delay his disbarment to the same week GTA IV comes out, that'll be doubley good.
How about disbarring him SECONDS before GTA4 is released? That would be great.
All the information I've obtained about Tunis's Oaths come from Thompson's press releases. I don't know if Oaths expire but I certainly don't think that unnotarized Oaths with the wrong text and different signatures would count for anything.

My whole point is even if everything Thompson alleges is fact (and I seriously doubt that) it still doesn't make a lick of sense or work the way he wants it to.


Andrew Eisen
@Andrew Eisen

Thanks for clearing that up.
Argh. And I just emailed you about this last night too GP. I was hoping for a Dec. ruling, then I was amped that the Apr. ruling was so close and now we have to wait again for JT's demise.

Oh well. I guess I just have to be patient along with the rest of the GP readers.
Tunis is probably seeking her own extradition to Elba, and that would be a good thing. Jack Thompson, Attorney
Yes, well trawling through voluminous and ehm... colourful, correspondence always was going to take a while.

Gift.
I have a question....

Even though the hearing has come and gone.

Does anything Jack do now can still influence her disition?

What about personal attacks and slander?
@LightWarrior [AKA Fighter McWarrior (KIDDING!!! Read 8-Bit Theater to understand!)]

Slander and libel is why JT is suing so many people. Of course, in his case, it's all B.S.
GODDAMNIT! STOP FUCKING AROUND AND DISBAR HIM!
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA

THE FLORIDA BAR,

Complainant,

v. Case Numbers SC 07 - 80 and 07- 354

JOHN B. THOMPSON,

Respondent.

RESPONDENT’S MOTION TO VACATE REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF TIME AND OPPOSITION TO MOTION FOR EXTENSION AND REQUEST FOR HEARING THEREON

COMES NOW respondent Thompson and moves this referee to vacate her request for extension of time. It was never provided to Thompson, and it should not even have been sought without consultation by the referee with both parties.
Further, the best and really only way for this issue to be addressed is by what is called in legal circles “a hearing.” Thompson is aware that this referee eschews such things, but due process demands on in this instance.
What we have going on here is a further protraction of what has been a nearly four-year-old nightmare for Thompson which is now going to be protracted further. We are at the point now of a deeper meaning to the phrase “Justice delayed is justice denied.” As the referee knows, she is under investigation for operating under a forged loyalty oath. Thompson suggests she do all of us a favor, including herself, and recuse herself from this case so that she has more time for whatever she does. She obviously does not seem to have the time to address this matter in a timely fashion.
Finally, it is disturbing and it is so typical of this referee that she would deny the undersigned a continuance during his wife’s fight with ovarian cancer, but this referee, who apparently is dealing with no such family emergency, can waltz into the Florida Supreme Court, from which Thompson is excluded, to ask for an extension simply because she wants to.
This referee’s hypocrisy eclipses, it now seems, even that of The Florida Bar. A judge’s languid dealing with a disciplinary trial that was over more than four months ago trumps a family’s dealing with cancer. How lovely. How typical. How Orwellian.
A hearing on all this, please.
I HEREBY CERTIFY that I have provided this to The Florida Bar, 1200 Edgewater Drive, Orlando, Florida, April 15, 2008.

 
Quick Jack, send her a bunch more emails and faxes! That'll make her rule in your favor for sure. Be sure to make them extra-threatening.
@GRIZZAM 512

These things take time. Rushed rulings do no one justice. Although apparently Jack doesn't agree on that point.
God I hope they set the deadline for April 29th!
Disgusting. I see Jack is continuing to use his wife's terrible ailment for legal leverage. The man is a horrid carrion eating vulture.
Since it appears some other recent Thompson motions have been relegated to a miscellany file rather than the case file because Thompson didn't have another lawyer in good standing with the bar sign onto them (as per previous court order), I'm curious as to who the other lawyer that signed onto this latest motion Thompson posted here (4 comments up) was (if any).

I can only assume for the moment that it's not actually going to affect the case for that reason unless there is actually another lawyer who signed onto it.
John it was probably your demon seed that gave your wife cancer.

Hey, you don't bring that shit in here, and I won't either.
Though I do agree with Thompson on one thing. That is justice delayed being justice denied. And for all the people Thompson has harassed and wronged over the years the prolonging of his disbarment denies them their justice they so greatly deserve.

But Jack has no one to blame but himself for the length of the trial. The man shares his every paranoid impulse with every fax machine and every email of anyone remotely related and sometimes not related to these issues. Frankly he cannot expect anyone to go through the likely thousands of pages of unfiltered bullshit he spews in a few days. Perhaps if he had a little self control he could somewhere stop the crazies somewhere between his addled mind and the keyboard.

How could John Bruce "Fax Killer" Thompson expect anything except a lengthy trial?
So Jack, did you get a member of the Florida Bar in good standing (ie. not you) to sign that document before you filed it?

I suspect that this, like every other ridiculous motion you've filed in this case, will be responded to with a dismissal that ends with the words "hereby denied."
Ok, what other lawyer signed the motion, since Jack can't anymore.
Dude...(blink) What am I not understanding here? Is there some law that says he can't spend the extension with his wife? Wow...I don't understand how this is even an issue, if it's a crisis and she's sick; why is he spending time taping sound bytes for fox news? If it's been four years, what difference does another couple weeks make. ESPECIALLY, when there's a compelling reason to spend the time with family???

I don't understand this guy.
Dude…(blink) What am I not understanding here? Is there some law that says he can’t spend the extension with his wife?

No, there isn't. In fact Jack could take a vacation, or carry on business as usual until the ruling comes down. Sure there's going to be some stress waiting while waiting for it, but that should prevent him from spending time with his wife.

The problem is that Jack is spending time trying futilely to keep the decision from being handed down at all instead of spending his time with his wife. So in his eyes, Judge Tunis asking for an extension is her keeping Jack for spending time with his wife; regardless of the fact that that's Jack's own doing.
@attackgypsy

Bet it's one of the discarded one because Thompson forgot his ruling. Last time I checked, he sent four, all discarded with a warning.
@ Jack Thompson, attention whore:

Why don´t you keep an eye to your family instead just trolling on Gamepolitics?

Man, you are really an internet nerd in a body of a senile man.
Confirmed. That junk he posted isn't in the docket. Which means it was discarded. Jack ignored his order yet again.

For those who want to refresh their memories:

"In the future, any documents filed in this case not signed by a member in good standing of The Florida Bar other than you, will be filed in a miscellaneous file we maintain in the Clerk's office. They will not be docketed in your case nor acknowledged by us."

Now, he cannot even bully with motion. Looks like he lost most of his edge (which is getting quite blunt).
[...] The judge presiding over the matter, Judge Dava Tunis, requested a time extension, reports GamePolitics.  There’s no word on exactly how long the extension may be, or if it’s even granted.  Furthermore, it’s not clear as to whether Judge Tunis gave a clear reason why an extension’s needed. [...]
Ah jackie (if you are back from ban-land) you seem to have forgotten something. oh damn Pierre_Olivier beat me to it. No petitions in your own name, ie have to be signed by another lawer in good standing with the Florida Bar (whom you are said to despise). Rant and rave jackie, the end if neigh.
@Jack Thompson, soon to be ex Attorney

Whyare you here instead of taking a load off from work?
jack is acting like he has to sit in the corner & write "I will not be a public nuisance" from 9-5 every day until the ruling comes through. Isn't he basically unemployed at this point? Would that not be ample time to spend with his ailing wife?

Actually disbarment & writing lines for years would be an appropriate punishment for someone so childish.
@kurisu7885

C'mon...you really don't know?
@hurricanejesus - very very uncool man. very uncool. leave his family out of it.
@ Mr. Thompson

"Tunis is probably seeking her own extradition to Elba, and that would be a good thing."

Wishful thinking, as always, Mr. Thompson. That's all you really have up your sleave lately, isn't?

"COMES NOW respondent Thompson and moves this referee to vacate her request for extension of time. It was never provided to Thompson, and it should not even have been sought without consultation by the referee with both parties."

First off: YOU WERE SANCTIONED BY THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR DENSE-AS-DIAMOND SKULL.

Apologies for the all captial letters, but apparently i need to dumb myself down to your level to write things to you. Which is sad, seeing as i'm less than half your age. (I'm 21)

Secondly... so you're basically saying that the defendant should be allowed an unlimited amount of time to stall before the reading of the verdict so the statute of limitations will eventually pass? Very nice, Mr. Thomspon. Very nice indeed.

"Further, the best and really only way for this issue to be addressed is by what is called in legal circles “a hearing.” Thompson is aware that this referee eschews such things, but due process demands on in this instance.
What we have going on here is a further protraction of what has been a nearly four-year-old nightmare for Thompson which is now going to be protracted further. We are at the point now of a deeper meaning to the phrase “Justice delayed is justice denied.” As the referee knows, she is under investigation for operating under a forged loyalty oath. Thompson suggests she do all of us a favor, including herself, and recuse herself from this case so that she has more time for whatever she does. She obviously does not seem to have the time to address this matter in a timely fashion."

You're not the only case she's dealing with. She has something called "a job," and "a life," Mr. Thompson, and believe it or not, the Supreme Court has other, much, much, MUCH more important cases to give its attention to than your own. (And the time she's taking is your own fault, you know. If you didn't send hundreds upon hundreds of those infantile e-mails of yours, you likely wouldn't even be in this mess)

"Finally, it is disturbing and it is so typical of this referee that she would deny the undersigned a continuance during his wife’s fight with ovarian cancer, but this referee, who apparently is dealing with no such family emergency, can waltz into the Florida Supreme Court, from which Thompson is excluded, to ask for an extension simply because she wants to."

...YOU JUST FREAKING ADMITTED YOU WERE SANCTIONED, AND YET YOU'RE SENDING THIS ANYWAY? Pardon the bluntness, but... what are you, retarded?

Mr. Thompson... answer me this. The proceedings of your trial ended in late December of 2007, correct? And Judge Tunis said that she'd have the verdict ready by spring of 2008 at that point, right?

Well... WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THE PAST FOUR MONTHS? Just sitting on your butt, NOT spending time with your wife? Really, Mr. Thompson, think about this. Apparently, abusing your internet connection, sending e-mails to the FBI about every Tom, Dick, and Harry about your conspiracy is more important to you than your own cancer-stricken wife.

You sicken me. Good day.
Okay, I've calmed down. I've waited this long...I can wait a little longer...
@Grombar:

Can't be any harder than 'Do you like dealing with his constant bs?' ... or so I'd thought? :/
@jdecamp


I agree that that was a pretty low thing for HurricaneJesus to say. Though when even Jack himself won't leave his family out of it...
@Jack --

1) Your letter, hilariously, will go unread by the SCOFLA. You were sanctioned, you see. And it's not that you don't have access, you just need to find another lawyer to sign the document. Too bad there's a lack of insane lawyers in souther Florida.

2) You need the case to be over so you can spend time with your wife? Here's a thought. How about you cease filing bar complaints against blogs who have banned you and trolling the internet to post inane insults to video gamers? That might help. Right now it seems your crusade is more important to you than your family. That's just sad.

3) As usual, you provide no legal basis for your complaint. A competent lawyer would have done so.
The finality of his disbarment will be something to savor slooooooowly....
When he is disbarred will he please crawl back under from the rock he slithered out from.
Isn't the very fact JT has been pursuing legal action (IE the oath stuff) against the judge clear and clinching proof of his wanton misuse of the legal system for his own purposes?

I find it disturbing that it is taking this long for him to be disbarred- if that even comes to pass.

What does it say about the state of the legal profession if someone as childish and vile is able to keep his ability to practice law?
@DogWelder:

Legal... basis? I thought the object of the game was to file as many frivolous lawsuits as humanly possible before everyone tires of his crap. (Sounds like he's trying for the 'filed a million lawsuits' achievement, but florida might wind up cancelling his XBLA account before then.)
But... Why?


Is she casting Life3 on all of her office electronics?
I find it interesting that jt "found" this loyalty oath stuff after his trial (also interesting that the person that jt went to is not concidered a professional and findings are not alowed to be used legally). althou I respect the choice to ask for more time i would love a progress report on where the judge is at on her ruling. oh and jt trying to cower behind your family dosn't work all it does is show how unfit you are.

on annother note
wasnt jt a medical miscounduct lawer? cause if he was i think i know where he's going wrong.
I want to see the "Jack Thompson Court Game", someone needs to make this game, points scored for providing true evidence, points for proving perjury by the opposing party, complete with authentic JT rants of madness, motions filed with porn, pissed -off judges, etc. Please make it, someone, protect yourself with anonymity, make it an open-source project, don't claim responsibility, just throw it out there... It should end with JT sharing a comfy discarded mattress with several rats, zealously guarding his cheap bottle in a port-wine stupor... Preaching to the rats about their morals, declaring himself their savior, while he drizzles in his trousers.

Thus ever to sociopaths
@JT, AAL: You are a sociopath. Plain and simple. you seek any control you may gain over anyone, be it physical, legal, mental, or emotional. You are just another control freak, in a world full of politicians, police, terrorists, shamans, and the like. You are no different than any other undeserving dolt who thinks his way is the only way. Please go spend the rest of your miserable existence in exile, before exile is imposed upon you. You are not welcome anywhere.
Hey, I had a thought of sending JT a civil-spoken e-mail. Anyone want to support it?

(I mean it when I say civil-spoken)
@Shadow Darkman

Unfortunately Jack doesn't really do 'civil'. People have tried striking up a civil conversation with him in the past, only for him to insult them right off the bat.
With Jack bringing up his family so often I'm reminded of a Christian quote I heard a lot as a child. It goes "No success in the world can compare to a failure in the home." So Jack, if you are actually a Christian in any way, shape, or form (basically you have given me no reason to believe you're at all a Christian yet, but here's your chance) I suggest you go to your house and spend some quality time with your family. When you have spent some quality time and feel like you should go troll the internet or harass some judge or other lawyer, take a moment, breathe deeply, and then instead spend more quality time with your family. You use and abuse your family currently with your actions, trying a sympathy ploy using your wife (if you really cared you'd spend all your available free time with her), the whole "oh noes, my son bought violent video games at a store while I was standing there with him" (the use of him in your so called "stings" is likely severely mentally damaging to the psyche, I say this as someone who knows firsthand about private investigation and real stings, even your fake ones likely put more stress on him than a kid should ever have to deal with from a parent), and your entire appearance of ignoring them for your "Crusade" all this time. There's a lot of bad failings on your side of the table in the family and it's time you grow up, act your age, and do a lot of good for your family instead of causing them more pain and suffering.

With all the crap you've pulled it's no wonder the judge needs more time to go over it. I believe in your document above you even mention that it's been going on for 4 years, which means there's probably several months of reading to be done to get through all your abusive letters, threats, libel, slander, and harassment towards other people. You claim that it's unfair and that all you want is a fair trial, well guess what, this time is actually required to give you a fair trial so you can't claim it's unfair and that you want a fair trial. You can claim that you want a trial biased in favor of you, but I imagine that won't convince many of the Supremes' to do anything in your favor.

I suggest you take the advice though, you have a lot of work to do to improve things with your family.
@Shadow Darkman

While I have toyed with the idea off and on for the last couple of years since first hearing of JBT I have found that your being civil to him does not mean he will be in the slightest way civil back. He regards himself as a higher lifeform since since he has been on TV and he is a lawyer and he is this, that and the other.. and gamers are lower than pond-scum.

Not sure if you were around with the was the "Flowers for Jack" bit. Nice flowers, well thought out and civil letter. Jackie got them and forwarded them off with a note to the effect of grinding them up and smoking them. Claimed the flowers were harrashment. Sorry but No. JBT is a social leper, an outcast existing on the edges of polite society. Seems that since he is rarely given the respect HE thinks he deserves he will try to ruin it for everyone else. In a nutshell is he petty, shallow and self-serving.

While you intent might be good it is unlikely the results will be.
What if I don't mention that I'm a gamer?
@Shadow Darkman

Could work. I heard once that Jack only started insulting someone when that person said he (the person) was a gamer.
@Pierre-Olivier

Thanks. I was thinking of CC'ing it to Dennis, Tim Buckley of Ctrl-Alt-Del, and Scott Ramsoomair of VG Cats.

Anyone else?
@Shadow Darkman

JT could of course be trolling right now and just reading the comments, and seeing this decide to blow up on all the letters he gets assuming there's a chance that they came from a gamer who isn't saying they are one.

Whatever happens though be sure to let us know if anything interesting happens, and you have my vote for luck.
Thanks, Ix. I just might need it when I finally decide on it. Right now, all I need is the time. Of course, I might need a friend's computer. Just hop he'll be willing.
@Shadow Darkman

In that case I'd send you double luck (for the letter and the ability to write the letter), but I'm not sure I have enough luck to do that right now :P

W/e, hope everything goes well and you get something good to share with us.
Hahaha, that's fine. And I'll try.
@Shadow Darkman

I wouldn't. I suspect that being contacting him, and being civil, would only get you sued. There's an episode of South Park once where Jimmy and Timmy dominate the episode, and the usual headliner characters only show up 3 or 4 times long enough to do something of a recurring gag which is usually something like.

"What do you say we stay out of this one?"
"Don't touch it, just keep walking."
"Not getting into this one." ...etc...etc...

So I pass onto you the immortal wisdom of Stan Marsh. "Don't touch it, just keep walking."
@jadedcritic

He can't sue me if he doesn't know who I am. I'm gonna use a friend's e-mail to do it. Besides, he can't sue a minor. Not going into details, but that kinda defeats the purpose of suing me.
Mmm... multiple levels of obfuscation would be good. He could go after the minor's parents though, you and they should be aware of that before proceeding. I find it highly unlikely though that the parents would ever even need to show up in court or hire a lawyer of their own no matter what JT threatens if the letter is civil though. I know personally if someone sued another person for sending s civil letter and I were the judge I'd give a summary judgment in favor of the defendant with prejudice (so they can petition to have their legal fees payed by the plaintiff).
*sending a civil letter

durn typos creeping in at the end of the work day.
"Mmm… multiple levels of obfuscation would be good."

Heck yes, I'd consider using two or three proxy addresses.
(afterthought - didn't he complain to the FBI for not stopping his email box from getting "hacked". Without knowing what actually happened to his email, or Jack's relative level of technical kung-fu, maybe he just got spammed. If you must, I would definitely take steps to make it difficult to trace.

However, I stick to my original advice, "don't touch it, just keep walking".
my guess is that she couldn't stop laughing or shaking her head.
JT's little motion isn't in the docket which means no signature. It also means that this guy doesn't understand what those sanctions against him mean.

Also, I call BS on his wife's cancer- he only plays that card when he wants leverage.
@Zerodash

Whether it's true or not, I'm telling JT that we're all praying for her recovery.
you know, it's deliciously hilarious that Thompson has access to a lawyer who would be most likely to sign on his behalf: his wife.

consider that she's not touching his legal career with a 10-foot pole so far.
Still considering how to go about it. I know the following:

-Be as civil as possible (I really hate him)
-Do not mention that I am a gamer
-Tell him we know Patricia has cancer and that some of us (if not all) are
praying for her recovery


Anything else?
Still considering how to go about it. I know the following:

-Be as civil as possible (I really hate him)
-Do not mention that I am a gamer
-Tell him we know Patricia has cancer and that some of us (if not all) are praying for her recovery

Anything else?


EDIT: Damn thing word-wraps funny. Oh well.
This is what I wrote to JT. I haven't sent it yet, but I want your opinions on it before I do.


Subj: From A Brother In Christ

To Mr. John B. Thompson

We are aware of the fact that your wife, Patricia, has developed Ovarian Cancer.

As you know, most people are openly against your, for lack of a more appropriate word, "crusade" against video games. However, some of them are willing to hear you out. All it takes is time, and willingness.

It is my desire to convey to you that some of these people have expressed the desire to pray for Patricia, that God Almighty would develop for us a way to remove this Cancer as quickly as possible. When I learned of this fact, I joined the throng of men, women, and children that wished to ask the Lord to heal Patricia, that she may live her days out in peace.

You may have seen me before, on a site some time ago. Some of the things I said were rather harsh, I confess, but that comes from the fact that you have scorned these people long enough. I draw what I wish to say from the words of Joseph Welch, when he finally decided to call Senator Joseph McCarthy out.

Until this moment, Mr. Thompson, I think I never gauged your cruelty or recklessness... Let us not assassinate these people further, Mr. Thompson... You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?

Again, I wish to pray for Patricia, that this cancer may leave her, and that she may live.

Yours in Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior,

Shadow D. Darkman

Postscript: [My friend] wishes to express his apologies for whatever he may have done himself since he learned of your doings. His apology, let me assure you, is sincere. -SD


Please review and advise.
My take? I dunno, its well-written enough. Just don't expect more than two sentences telling something along the lines of "Get a real name and a life, i don't want an apology from a retard."
As much as I have difficulty understanding the religious overtones, I will accept that they are not mine to understand. I think you should probably expect though that he's going to be suspicious of your motives. He will likely assume you intend something beyond what you say. If folks really want to pray for this woman's welfare, I'd say by all means, but why tell him that? I'd consider other ways of expressing yourself. I'd say consider sending her a get-well card, or perhaps donating to the american cancer society in her name. Getting through to him is likely to be a herculean task I don't think you should take upon yourself, but again, maybe this is something I don't need to understand. Does the bible say anything about "don't leave one of your own behind?" I'm paraphrasing a little bit, but I can honestly say I have no idea how christian doctrine applies to these kinds of things.
Good letter, Shadow Darkman. Post your answer (if he does answer).
The Biblical stuff is to show him that he and I, in that standard, are not all that different.

I will send the e-mail tomorrow, if possible. Furthermore, I'm thinking of revising the subject.
I am going to change the subject when I forward the e-mail to Scott Ramsoomair and Dennis. Not doing Buckley as he hasn't encountered JT like Scott and Dennis have.
@Shadow Darkman
Have people really expressed the desire to pray for Patricia, or are you just making up nonsense to suit your case?

And what’s with this talk about how he’s “done enough”? I don’t get it. The man has lost probably every case that mattered against games and who cares if he throws a few insults at (or “scorns”) gamers?

Why email him at all actually; does he matter that much to you?

In the end this whole mess with JT makes no sense. He’s likely one of the smallest threats to freedom of expression out there, yet everyone gets their panties in a twist whenever he’s on the air. It’s almost like many of you get some sort of sick fascination out of seeing a man who not only repeatedly humiliates himself, but is struggling for his job… How well adjusted is that, honestly?

Sure I agree that we should keep an eye on him for the very unlikely day he actually impacts gaming but don’t become fixated with him.
DAMMIT!!! HIS E-MAIL ADDRESS DID NOT WORK!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( I got a "failure notice" from my e-mail system's "MAILER-DAEMON" saying it failed.

@LujanD

The reason I tried to e-mail him is because He should hear from someone who at least is trying to reach out to him. But since the e-mail failed it won't get to him.
DAMMIT!!! HIS E-MAIL ADDRESS DID NOT WORK!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( I got a "failure notice" from my e-mail system's "MAILER-DAEMON" saying it failed.

@LujanD

The reason I tried to e-mail him is because He should hear from someone who at least is trying to reach out to him. But since the e-mail failed it won't get to him.

Furthermore, if you read all the comments in the JT category, I can assure you that in at least one of the more recent Blogs people have indeed expressed the desire to pray for Patricia.
Apologies for the 3:01 post and this one. I wanted to add the last line of the 3:03 one

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Posted 11/23/09 at 07:56am
DarkSaber: http://tinyurl.com/yl2vfw6 Here's the link, good for conspiracy theories.
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