Judge in Jack Thompson Bar Trial Requests More Time

April 15, 2008 -
Judge Dava Tunis (left), who presided over the November, 2007 Florida Bar trial of anti-game activist Jack Thompson, has petitioned the Florida Supreme Court for more time in which to issue her decision.

While GamePolitics had been anticipating Tunis' final ruling on Thompson's fate by April 21st, an April 11th Florida Supreme Court docket entry notes the request for a time extension by Judge Tunis.

No additional details appear in the docket entry and it is unclear what is behind Judge Tunis' request. However, in addition to nearly two weeks of testimony, there is a large volume of printed material to be reviewed, especially given Thompson's well-known penchant for sending e-mails, faxes and the like.

Judge Tunis herself has been under attack from Thompson in recent times (then again, who hasn't?). In a claim reminiscent of Catch-22's Great Loyalty Oath Crusade, Thompson alleges that a written loyalty oath required under Florida law was not properly executed by Tunis.

GamePolitics has offered the most extensive coverage of the Thompson trial anywhere. Be sure to check out our exclusive transcripts.

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Don't forget she's doing this while overseeing her regular number of cases. One of those could be the reason for the delay since we don't know what her docket is like.

I understand her need for more time, even though I'd really like to know her decision soon. Hopefully she's just messing with Thompson by giving him false hope that she's actually still considering.

@T5

When you say Scott-free, surely you don't mean Scott Ramsoomair, right?

(This joke was based on the E-mail Conversation between Ramsoomair and JT recorded on VGCats)

I'm glad she's taking her time to read all those emails.

Gives us the decistion on the 29th!

Well, look at it this way, if Jack Thompson isn't disbarred then it simply proves him right, the Florida Bar is a dysfunctional mess ;)

Seriously though, when you put as much rope round your own neck as Thompson did, it takes a long time to reach the end. When you are a Judge being threatened, along with the entire establishment you represent you have two choices, you can either give leeway or put the guy on his ass so hard he ain't never getting up. I get the feeling both the State and Supreme court left the leeway behind when it became apparent that Thompson doesn't know the meaning of the word 'compromise'.

@Ebonheart

How the hell do you know that? :o Can you link to where you heard that?

@GoodRobotUs

I'm still shocked they didn't nail him for contempt all that time ago.

“…Thompson alleges that a written loyalty oath required under Florida law was not properly executed by Tunis.” -GP

For anyone wondering what this is about, Thompson alleges that Tunis has three Loyalty Oaths floating around out there. One is correct and notarized, the other two are the wrong oath and not notarized. Here’s Thompson’s Tunis Oath signing timeline:

September 12, 2000 – Correct Oath and notarized

On January 17, 2003 – Wrong Oath and not notarized

On September 29, 2005 - Wrong Oath and not notarized

You see, according to Thompson, the signature on the first does not match the signature on the last two so the former must be a forgery! As such, Tunis never officially took her Oath and deserves the boot.

Ignoring the fact that people’s signatures can change over the years, Thompson’s conclusion doesn’t follow any semblance of logic. If anything, it seems more probable that the last two are forgeries (you know, being the wrong Oath and not notarized and all).

At the end of the day, nothing I’ve seen indicates that the original is invalid and as such, Tunis did take her Oath and is in the clear. Thompson is going to need to present something a lot more compelling then two “wrong Oaths” that aren’t notarized and have signatures that don’t match Tunis’s signature on a notarized document.


Andrew Eisen

@Andrew Eisen

Do the "wrong" Oaths still apply, though?

I always thought an Oath didn't come with an expiry date, that was the whole point of them?

Is there any information present that proves they're they wrong oath?

What if the later oaths are intentionally different to focus on reaffirming the first oath as opposed to taking the same oath over and over again?

If you can delay his disbarment to the same week GTA IV comes out, that'll be doubley good.

How about disbarring him SECONDS before GTA4 is released? That would be great.

All the information I've obtained about Tunis's Oaths come from Thompson's press releases. I don't know if Oaths expire but I certainly don't think that unnotarized Oaths with the wrong text and different signatures would count for anything.

My whole point is even if everything Thompson alleges is fact (and I seriously doubt that) it still doesn't make a lick of sense or work the way he wants it to.


Andrew Eisen

@Andrew Eisen

Thanks for clearing that up.

Argh. And I just emailed you about this last night too GP. I was hoping for a Dec. ruling, then I was amped that the Apr. ruling was so close and now we have to wait again for JT's demise.

Oh well. I guess I just have to be patient along with the rest of the GP readers.

Tunis is probably seeking her own extradition to Elba, and that would be a good thing. Jack Thompson, Attorney

Yes, well trawling through voluminous and ehm... colourful, correspondence always was going to take a while.

Gift.

I have a question....

Even though the hearing has come and gone.

Does anything Jack do now can still influence her disition?

What about personal attacks and slander?

@LightWarrior [AKA Fighter McWarrior (KIDDING!!! Read 8-Bit Theater to understand!)]

Slander and libel is why JT is suing so many people. Of course, in his case, it's all B.S.

GODDAMNIT! STOP FUCKING AROUND AND DISBAR HIM!

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA

THE FLORIDA BAR,

Complainant,

v. Case Numbers SC 07 - 80 and 07- 354

JOHN B. THOMPSON,

Respondent.

RESPONDENT’S MOTION TO VACATE REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF TIME AND OPPOSITION TO MOTION FOR EXTENSION AND REQUEST FOR HEARING THEREON

COMES NOW respondent Thompson and moves this referee to vacate her request for extension of time. It was never provided to Thompson, and it should not even have been sought without consultation by the referee with both parties.
Further, the best and really only way for this issue to be addressed is by what is called in legal circles “a hearing.” Thompson is aware that this referee eschews such things, but due process demands on in this instance.
What we have going on here is a further protraction of what has been a nearly four-year-old nightmare for Thompson which is now going to be protracted further. We are at the point now of a deeper meaning to the phrase “Justice delayed is justice denied.” As the referee knows, she is under investigation for operating under a forged loyalty oath. Thompson suggests she do all of us a favor, including herself, and recuse herself from this case so that she has more time for whatever she does. She obviously does not seem to have the time to address this matter in a timely fashion.
Finally, it is disturbing and it is so typical of this referee that she would deny the undersigned a continuance during his wife’s fight with ovarian cancer, but this referee, who apparently is dealing with no such family emergency, can waltz into the Florida Supreme Court, from which Thompson is excluded, to ask for an extension simply because she wants to.
This referee’s hypocrisy eclipses, it now seems, even that of The Florida Bar. A judge’s languid dealing with a disciplinary trial that was over more than four months ago trumps a family’s dealing with cancer. How lovely. How typical. How Orwellian.
A hearing on all this, please.
I HEREBY CERTIFY that I have provided this to The Florida Bar, 1200 Edgewater Drive, Orlando, Florida, April 15, 2008.

 

Quick Jack, send her a bunch more emails and faxes! That'll make her rule in your favor for sure. Be sure to make them extra-threatening.

@GRIZZAM 512

These things take time. Rushed rulings do no one justice. Although apparently Jack doesn't agree on that point.

God I hope they set the deadline for April 29th!

Disgusting. I see Jack is continuing to use his wife's terrible ailment for legal leverage. The man is a horrid carrion eating vulture.

Since it appears some other recent Thompson motions have been relegated to a miscellany file rather than the case file because Thompson didn't have another lawyer in good standing with the bar sign onto them (as per previous court order), I'm curious as to who the other lawyer that signed onto this latest motion Thompson posted here (4 comments up) was (if any).

I can only assume for the moment that it's not actually going to affect the case for that reason unless there is actually another lawyer who signed onto it.

John it was probably your demon seed that gave your wife cancer.

Hey, you don't bring that shit in here, and I won't either.

Though I do agree with Thompson on one thing. That is justice delayed being justice denied. And for all the people Thompson has harassed and wronged over the years the prolonging of his disbarment denies them their justice they so greatly deserve.

But Jack has no one to blame but himself for the length of the trial. The man shares his every paranoid impulse with every fax machine and every email of anyone remotely related and sometimes not related to these issues. Frankly he cannot expect anyone to go through the likely thousands of pages of unfiltered bullshit he spews in a few days. Perhaps if he had a little self control he could somewhere stop the crazies somewhere between his addled mind and the keyboard.

How could John Bruce "Fax Killer" Thompson expect anything except a lengthy trial?

So Jack, did you get a member of the Florida Bar in good standing (ie. not you) to sign that document before you filed it?

I suspect that this, like every other ridiculous motion you've filed in this case, will be responded to with a dismissal that ends with the words "hereby denied."

Ok, what other lawyer signed the motion, since Jack can't anymore.

Dude...(blink) What am I not understanding here? Is there some law that says he can't spend the extension with his wife? Wow...I don't understand how this is even an issue, if it's a crisis and she's sick; why is he spending time taping sound bytes for fox news? If it's been four years, what difference does another couple weeks make. ESPECIALLY, when there's a compelling reason to spend the time with family???

I don't understand this guy.

Dude…(blink) What am I not understanding here? Is there some law that says he can’t spend the extension with his wife?

No, there isn't. In fact Jack could take a vacation, or carry on business as usual until the ruling comes down. Sure there's going to be some stress waiting while waiting for it, but that should prevent him from spending time with his wife.

The problem is that Jack is spending time trying futilely to keep the decision from being handed down at all instead of spending his time with his wife. So in his eyes, Judge Tunis asking for an extension is her keeping Jack for spending time with his wife; regardless of the fact that that's Jack's own doing.

@attackgypsy

Bet it's one of the discarded one because Thompson forgot his ruling. Last time I checked, he sent four, all discarded with a warning.

@ Jack Thompson, attention whore:

Why don´t you keep an eye to your family instead just trolling on Gamepolitics?

Man, you are really an internet nerd in a body of a senile man.

Confirmed. That junk he posted isn't in the docket. Which means it was discarded. Jack ignored his order yet again.

For those who want to refresh their memories:

"In the future, any documents filed in this case not signed by a member in good standing of The Florida Bar other than you, will be filed in a miscellaneous file we maintain in the Clerk's office. They will not be docketed in your case nor acknowledged by us."

Now, he cannot even bully with motion. Looks like he lost most of his edge (which is getting quite blunt).

[...] The judge presiding over the matter, Judge Dava Tunis, requested a time extension, reports GamePolitics.  There’s no word on exactly how long the extension may be, or if it’s even granted.  Furthermore, it’s not clear as to whether Judge Tunis gave a clear reason why an extension’s needed. [...]

Ah jackie (if you are back from ban-land) you seem to have forgotten something. oh damn Pierre_Olivier beat me to it. No petitions in your own name, ie have to be signed by another lawer in good standing with the Florida Bar (whom you are said to despise). Rant and rave jackie, the end if neigh.

@Jack Thompson, soon to be ex Attorney

Whyare you here instead of taking a load off from work?

jack is acting like he has to sit in the corner & write "I will not be a public nuisance" from 9-5 every day until the ruling comes through. Isn't he basically unemployed at this point? Would that not be ample time to spend with his ailing wife?

Actually disbarment & writing lines for years would be an appropriate punishment for someone so childish.

@kurisu7885

C'mon...you really don't know?

@hurricanejesus - very very uncool man. very uncool. leave his family out of it.

@ Mr. Thompson

"Tunis is probably seeking her own extradition to Elba, and that would be a good thing."

Wishful thinking, as always, Mr. Thompson. That's all you really have up your sleave lately, isn't?

"COMES NOW respondent Thompson and moves this referee to vacate her request for extension of time. It was never provided to Thompson, and it should not even have been sought without consultation by the referee with both parties."

First off: YOU WERE SANCTIONED BY THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR DENSE-AS-DIAMOND SKULL.

Apologies for the all captial letters, but apparently i need to dumb myself down to your level to write things to you. Which is sad, seeing as i'm less than half your age. (I'm 21)

Secondly... so you're basically saying that the defendant should be allowed an unlimited amount of time to stall before the reading of the verdict so the statute of limitations will eventually pass? Very nice, Mr. Thomspon. Very nice indeed.

"Further, the best and really only way for this issue to be addressed is by what is called in legal circles “a hearing.” Thompson is aware that this referee eschews such things, but due process demands on in this instance.
What we have going on here is a further protraction of what has been a nearly four-year-old nightmare for Thompson which is now going to be protracted further. We are at the point now of a deeper meaning to the phrase “Justice delayed is justice denied.” As the referee knows, she is under investigation for operating under a forged loyalty oath. Thompson suggests she do all of us a favor, including herself, and recuse herself from this case so that she has more time for whatever she does. She obviously does not seem to have the time to address this matter in a timely fashion."

You're not the only case she's dealing with. She has something called "a job," and "a life," Mr. Thompson, and believe it or not, the Supreme Court has other, much, much, MUCH more important cases to give its attention to than your own. (And the time she's taking is your own fault, you know. If you didn't send hundreds upon hundreds of those infantile e-mails of yours, you likely wouldn't even be in this mess)

"Finally, it is disturbing and it is so typical of this referee that she would deny the undersigned a continuance during his wife’s fight with ovarian cancer, but this referee, who apparently is dealing with no such family emergency, can waltz into the Florida Supreme Court, from which Thompson is excluded, to ask for an extension simply because she wants to."

...YOU JUST FREAKING ADMITTED YOU WERE SANCTIONED, AND YET YOU'RE SENDING THIS ANYWAY? Pardon the bluntness, but... what are you, retarded?

Mr. Thompson... answer me this. The proceedings of your trial ended in late December of 2007, correct? And Judge Tunis said that she'd have the verdict ready by spring of 2008 at that point, right?

Well... WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING THE PAST FOUR MONTHS? Just sitting on your butt, NOT spending time with your wife? Really, Mr. Thompson, think about this. Apparently, abusing your internet connection, sending e-mails to the FBI about every Tom, Dick, and Harry about your conspiracy is more important to you than your own cancer-stricken wife.

You sicken me. Good day.

Okay, I've calmed down. I've waited this long...I can wait a little longer...

@Grombar:

Can't be any harder than 'Do you like dealing with his constant bs?' ... or so I'd thought? :/

@jdecamp


I agree that that was a pretty low thing for HurricaneJesus to say. Though when even Jack himself won't leave his family out of it...

@Jack --

1) Your letter, hilariously, will go unread by the SCOFLA. You were sanctioned, you see. And it's not that you don't have access, you just need to find another lawyer to sign the document. Too bad there's a lack of insane lawyers in souther Florida.

2) You need the case to be over so you can spend time with your wife? Here's a thought. How about you cease filing bar complaints against blogs who have banned you and trolling the internet to post inane insults to video gamers? That might help. Right now it seems your crusade is more important to you than your family. That's just sad.

3) As usual, you provide no legal basis for your complaint. A competent lawyer would have done so.

The finality of his disbarment will be something to savor slooooooowly....

When he is disbarred will he please crawl back under from the rock he slithered out from.

Isn't the very fact JT has been pursuing legal action (IE the oath stuff) against the judge clear and clinching proof of his wanton misuse of the legal system for his own purposes?

I find it disturbing that it is taking this long for him to be disbarred- if that even comes to pass.

What does it say about the state of the legal profession if someone as childish and vile is able to keep his ability to practice law?
 
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