Ruling in Jack Thompson Bar Trial May Not Come Until End of Summer

April 21, 2008 -
Last week GamePolitics broke the news that the long-awaited ruling in Jack Thompson's Florida Bar trial, originally expected today, would likely be delayed.

We've now learned that Judge Dava Tunis (left), who presided over Thompson's 9-day trial late last year, has petitioned the Florida Supreme Court to grant her until August 31st to issue her report.

Judge Tunis cited several reasons for the delay, including:
-the need to wade through a 2,500 page transcript of the trial

-reviewing 76 exhibits encompassing another 1,700 pages

-dealing with 400 "pleadings, e-mails, letters and missives (including pictorials)" filed by Thompson since the trial ended in December, 2007.

-handling a full-time job on the criminal bench

Interestingly, the wording of her motion makes it appear that Judge Tunis has already reached her decision. It's the writing of the report that seems to be causing the delay.

Read Judge Tunis' motion here.

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Re: Ruling in Jack Thompson Bar Trial May Not Come Until End of

I'm ecstatic that the majority of you guys are against Jack Thompson, yet I am saddened by the few of you that support him.

Anyone who prioritizes wealth over the lives of children and uses the bodies of students slain in school shootings as stepping stones for political power....there's just no words to describe someone so digusting.

Re: Ruling in Jack Thompson Bar Trial May Not Come Until End of

 Maybe all of you have snoozed while Jack Thompson has made a number of excellent points about Tunis.  He discovered that somebody (probably her notary, no longer working in the courthouse) forged her 876.05 loyalty oath required for public employment, and that she finally signed a new one in February, well after the beginning of her term.  On 6 June he filed suit against her and the state in the Southern District USDC for operating against him ultra vires, and he specifically attacked the oath.

It turns out that the Governor never requires appointment nominees to swear the 876.05 oath OR the 105.031 oath that all judges should swear before getting appointed.  For one thing 105.031 requires the candidate to swear to having read the judicial canon.  Apparently Tunis never read it.

Furthermore, it turns out that somebody in the Jeb Bush administration ordered removal of the jurat from election forms in 2000, and Browning just ordered it restored last June.  As a result nobody sworn in between 2000 and last June validly holds office, owing to the missing jurat.  Without the notary seal and signature the oath has no validity, and the alleged judge is an 843.0855 felony imposter.  

You might pause in your criticism of Thompson long enough to look at the lawsuit Montgomery Sibley filed in the Northern District USDC against the Supremes and his disbarment referee Orlando Prescott, seeking 80 megabux in damages for precisely the same reason.

Both men seek remedy for their fraudulent disbarments.  However, they should not ignore  a more ideal and ambitious undertaking - to bring down the criminal superstructure of Florida government.  It turns out that NO elected or appointed officials who took a candidate's oath or Article V Section 2 public officer's oath between 2000 and June 2007 validly holds office, and that is virtually EVERYBODY in office.

Have any of Jack's detractors looked beyond the petty attacks on his character at the substantive issues?  Every attorney who does not attack bogus judges under quo warranto and qui tam does a disservice to clients, the public, and the profession.  

According to Thompson's federal lawsuit filed yesterday (Friday June 6), Dava Tunis conducted a kangaroo proceeding regarding Thompson's disbarment, refusing to let him mount a defense, enter evidence, or call witnesses, and ordering him to shut up when he tried to make record.  So, even if she had valid loyalty oaths on file, she would still fit the definition of "high-handed" and a denier of due process.  Regardless of your beefs against Thompson, you should work to support his constitutional rights.  Your bar oaths require you to do that.

@ John Bruce, if and when you see this article and/or read this comment.

"-dealing with 400 “pleadings, e-mails, letters and missives (including pictorials)” filed by Thompson since the trial ended in December, 2007."

This is the time you could have spent with your ailing wife. Instead you send 100 angry letters a month. That's roughly 4 per day, rounding up. I shouldn't even have to explain how bad this makes you look.

"-handling a full-time job on the criminal bench"

This is something that you also need to get a hold of, Mr. Thompson. You're not the most important case here, and believe it or not, the world isn't literally standing still while she reads the near-5,000 pages of your dripe.

@ThatOneGuy

It sounds like she's leaning toward the disbarring.

400? Seriously? Does that guy have anything better to do than right hundreds of emails to hundreds of different people everyday?

Oh wait, I know the answer to that.

And now...Thompson on the Roof:PART 1, by GRIZZAM...

JACK THOMPSON:HEY, I'M ON YOUR ROOF, ASSHOLES!
Dava Tunis:Sir, please get off the roof.
JT:F**K YOU, YOU OLD BROAD! YOU'RE CONSPIRING AGAINST ME WITH TAKE TWO AND THE FLORIDA BAR! I'M NOT COMING DOWN!
DT:Sir, if you don't get off the roof-
JT:HURRY UP AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO DISBAR ME! BULLY IS A COLUMBINE SIMULATOR!
DT:Sir, please, I need time to make that decision. It wouldn't take me so long if you hadn't filed so many-
JT:VIDEOGAMES ARE MURDER SIMULATORS! THEY'RE OUT TO GET ME!
DT:Please get off the roof...
JT:NO!
END PART 1

@Aliasalpha and DarknessDeku

Hehheh. Well I'm glad you two liked that. Aliasalpha, your script is excellent and will hereby be added to the continuity. Thank you. :)

And, 400 messages, in two months, and somehow he isn't the one preventing himself from being at his wife's side?

IF anything, he just has no life.

Just saw that letter to Zelnick's mother.

Um... wow. Obsess much?

No particular order, the first quote caught me enough just to scroll through it...

Some of the latter gamers are on death row, so try to find one out in the civilian population who hasn’t killed someone yet.
Oh, you mean all 21.4 million(or maybe doubled/tipple/etc that number of units sold)?

blah blah age-verification blah blah
Funny, he seems to have picked up a few other retailers I pointed out to him, but he still ignores the "cc is valid form of 'adult' id" and the "you must be 18 to purchase this game" "license" agreement(heck, BestBuy did that for my Persona 3 FES order).

Strauss is even marketing the new Grand Theft Auto IV on World Wrestling Entertainment tv shows seen by millions of kids.
... And so are R rated movies and TV shows(like say CSI), so who gives a ****?

Insert any jokes you feel about wrestling, but I don't think that is very appropriate for them or a good example to use in regards to violence.

He's now dead because a teenaged boy unwittingly trained himself to kill him on Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Ignoring the usual training bs, but wtf is the "UN-wittingly" bit?

Maybe we should have in the pass banned kids from playing cops & robbers or cowboys & indians(oh I think someone else asked it on that other blog, and Jack replied to them & deliberately ignored it).

Same can be said about all those comic books with men in tights becoming some vigilante above the law or a morally corrupt individual/criminal trying to force everyone to their personal --sometimes illogical-- beliefs of how society should act/function...

More like the Hitler Youth, I would say.
Not surprised at this with his obsessions and past actions, but such stuff does deserve pointing out....

OK that is it, he doesn't need a restraining order, Jack Thompson needs a strait-jacket!

I sure loved the things Kincyr pointed out, and speaking of the mom bit, I ask the following yet again:

Come on Jack, where is the REAL evidence that you really cares about this violence & kids issue? Keeping it short: I sure haven't heard a squeak from you in regards to solving IN REAL LIFE bullying since that Bully case... But then again, it isn't like you had any interest to actually do something about it until R* came along.

Jack, you are the one with problems regarding morals and professional behavior; why do you think people go out of their way to associate you with "chasing massacres" and are devoting(not in the good way) attention to what you say & do? And before you answer that, keep in mind this it isn't a conspiracy involving the ECA, FBI, the Bar, the US government, the Illuminati, etc....

@ Oh wow

What Jack continually fails to realise is that credit cards are only given to individuals over 18. He has a problem with kids using credit cards? Arrest the kids for STEALING THE GODDAMN CREDIT CARDS, not playing a video game.

I just love the line

"dealing with 400 “pleadings, e-mails, letters and missives (including pictorials)” filed by Thompson since the trial ended in December, 2007."

This one just makes me laugh. I mean, if this was a major complaint by so many, one would think he would get a clue.

Aww. Well that sucks. Oh well...drag out the drama...

Well, if it takes a few more months to make a judgement sound enough I guess it's for the best.

What's sad though is the amound of damage JT can make in a whole summer, especially if it is his last one as an attorney.

Oh well. I guess JT just gets to sit on pins & needles till the decision.

So in theory could Thompson drag out the ruling indefinitely by continuing to CC judge Tunis on every mailing he send out?

Problem is JT still won't be silenced by being disbarred. The first thing he'll do is appeal and Fox News will be more than willing to give him a voice.

Reply from Jack Thompson claiming victory in 3... 2... 1...

I understand the judge. If I have to read all the e-mails from that moron, I would need a half of a year, too.

Tis unfortunate that this fool might go on 'till the end of the summer with his senile debacles of self indulgent ranting...

Reply from Jack Thompson calling Judge Tunis a whore in 3...2...1...

Awesome! I will get to hear the news @ KumoriCon! I will totally take a sign with me after hearing the verdict. The general crowd there may appreciate it.

Jack Thompson is going to get off without being disbarred, I just feel it coming. The people who need to be punished never are.

[...] wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptLast week GamePolitics broke the news that the long-awaited ruling in Jack Thompson’s Florida Bar trial, originally expected today, would likely be delayed. We’ve now learned that Judge Dava Tunis (left), who presided over Thompson’s 9-day trial late last year, has petitioned the Florida Supreme Court to grant her until August 31st to issue her report. Judge Tunis cited several reasons for the delay, including: -the need to wade through a 2,500 page transcript of the trial -reviewing 76 exhibits encompassing another 1,700 pages -dealing with 400 “pleadings, e-mails, letters and missives (including pictorials)” filed by Thompson since the trial ended in December, 2007. -handling a full-time job on the criminal bench [...]

All good things come to those who wait? :D

Gift.

jack suing GTAIV in 1... 2... 3...

I have to agree with JT that this extension is excessive- especially since it does seem she has reached her decision. Waiting so long to get word on a decision that may have already been reached makes it difficult for him to plan long-term.

However, I would imagine that if JT is indeed to be disbarred, he would spam the courts & media with A TON of lawsuits, letters, faxes, emails, threats, insults, conspiracy theories, etc. The judge may be expecting this (having already gotten a taste of his wrath), and is wording her report in an airtight "slam dunk" manner.



Is Thompson still running for judge, or can we just add that to his mountain of little lies?

Well, according to paragraph 12, it appears she has reached a verdict whcih she's going to notify the parties as to which way she's ruling... she just needs time to gather the evidence to write her report... and I'm sure she wants the extra time to make sure it's EXACTLY right. The hope is to prevent Mr. Thompson from being able to appeal anything within the report that's erroneous.

This woman has the patience of a saint to put up with all those papers. That kind of paper work would drive any normal person up the walls or even put a gun to their own head. I admire this woman so much!

Well, look at it this way. If any of you are going to PAX, a ruling on the last day of it would definatly be an interesting event.

Judge Dava Tunis for Nobel Peace Prize.

i guess it takes a long time to word a document in a civil tone since it should not read "Fuck you, Thompson" as that would be a little hypocritical.

Poor gal...

Ok, so the report won't come out until Aug. 31, but we should know whether he was disbarred soon. That's what I understand when I read the motion

I think we can guess the outcome, anyway. I mean, seriously. If a guy sent you 400 pleadings, e-mails, letters and missives in only 4 months, how would you rule against him?

Jack is doomed.

Well if the ruling and report on the ruling isn't going to be handed out until August 31st, that's going to be one hell of a birthday present for me if he gets disbarred. Sure, it will be one day late to be a true birthday present, but still its the thought that counts...

@Ken

Its off the wall remarks like that that keep Jack attacking gamers.
Name calling and vague threats of violence help make the point he's been looking for all this time.

If you can't play nice, then shut up before you make the rest of us look bad.

I'd expect that Judge Tunis needs to make sure absolutely everything is completed, so there is no loopholes Jack can exploit.

Snicker.

Sorry I am just finding the mental picture of JBT biting his nails to the elbow while worriedly waiting amusing. Probably wrong of me but there it is.

Being a bit more serious I would tend to agree with Dennis in that it sounds like Judge Tunis has reached her decision (though it is wrong to assume) and is spending the time (what little excess she has apparently) making sure there are a no loopholes and such that could cause the ruling to be overturned.

Or to put it another way.

That the findings are wraving rabid idiot proof. This is NOT as easy as it sounds. Not underestimate the power of human stupidity.

Jesus creeping craps...

My heart goes out to the judge.

I half to applaude Judge Tunis for her patience in this, as I'm certain that JT constantly is trying to 'put her in her place' through these past four months. If anyone of us were to bombard another person with the same tripe that JT sends out it would be called harrassment, even border on stalking.

Judging by her past record, Judge Tunis is making sure that there is no loop hole or wiggle room that can allow JT chance to slither his way out of her final ruling. In other words, he's lost.

I can wait. This ruling is like a fine cheese in that it only gets better with age.

@ Are'el

Are you implying that going out of your way to antagonize the person in charge of your fate is a BAD idea?

JT to declare victory in 3... 2... 1....

May as well be, he did seem determined to bottleneck the process.

@DavCube

You’re not the most important case here, and believe it or not, the world isn’t literally standing still while she reads the near-5,000 pages of your dripe.

Dripe? Is that some sort of combination of drivel and tripe?

Just reading all of the things the Judge must go through in reguard to the trial, as well as Jack's ridiculous e-mails on top of her actual job just increases my hatred of Mr. Thompson 20 fold...

@GP

When you say it sounds like she's already made her decision, do you mean you think you know which way she's leaning? If so, which way?

@ Gray17

Could just be a misspelling of drip, though it would make a bit less sense. Nonetheless, I've decided that I love the word "Dripe" and am going to be using it often. It's kind of fantastic. My thanks to DavCube.

If I had to deal with the kind of day in day out dripe that this poor judge had to I'd need the time off too. I'm just hoping Jackie boy doesn't get too GTA happy before he's disbarred.

Hey GP, any other pics of the judge? She looks hot, but its hard to tell in the robe.

No, she says in the filed motion that she is currently preparing to tell both parties her ruling. I'm pretty sure she is just requesting more time to write the report.
 
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