Hillary, Obama, McCain Pander to Wrestling Audience

April 22, 2008 -
Politics, as the saying goes, makes strange bedfellows.

And there could be none stranger than seeing Hillary Clinton, who has long decried violence in video games, cozying up to the pro wrestling crowd with a tongue-in-cheek campaign promise that, if elected, she will deliver "the people's elbow" when things get rough.

Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain all appeared in taped WWE promos last night. Obama seemed uncomfortable, cracking only a "Do you smell what Barack is cookin'?" joke toward the end of his remarks.

Clinton's video was more enjoyable, if for no other reason than because it was such a departure from her normally aloof public persona. But, "Call me Hillrod?" A bit much...

John McCain's performance was funny ...and a little scary:
You want to pull out of Iraq? Well I say, no surrender... I'm gonna introduce Osama bin Laden to The Undertaker... [Americans] watch WWE because wrestling is about celebrating our freedom...

Watching these videos brings a few video game-related points to mind:

First, will we ever see major candidates making official appearances within a video game, or even at a video game event?

Second, why is WWE, with its real-life violence, steroid abuse issues, and hyper-sexualized "diva" wrestlers an acceptable venue for presidential candidates while video games are, apparently, not?

Finally, if one of these candidates goes after video game violence in the future, whether as president or as a member of the Senate, they need to be reminded of their political pandering to the wrestling audience.

Comments

@sqlrob

If you did even five minutes of research or hell, actually finished reading that article you would have seen that the "wrestling defense" used in the Lionel Tate case was 100% BS and that Lionel Tate had before he murdered that girl and continued to have a history of behavioral problems, none of which had to do with WWE or prowrestling in general.

You guys have something in common with Hillary now, GG.

@PhoenixZero:

Gee, exactly like games. Fancy that.

Another funny thing about this:

The vast majority of WWE's roster are Republican, IIRC.

@ RobertHMayfire

Plenty of politicians use war, that's just as violent and sexy.

@ sqlrob

It's this kind of thinking that gets us into trouble. When a news source or politician says "Hey, videogames are violent!", gamers line up to say "Hey, so is ____". Usually they go straight to movies, but some talk about books, wrestling, or a number of things. What we should be saying is that videogame violence has no proven harmful effects, and that M rated games shouldn't be sold to children.

Throwing another form of entertainment doesn't help, no matter how much you may or may not like it, especially if that form of entertainment is available in videogame form. While many people scoff at wrestling, and at wrestling videogames, those willing to sit down and play them dispite their bias often find something that's quite enjoyable. Wrestlmania 2000 and No Mercy were favorites of my group of friends though there were only a few wrestling fans among us.

Remember Rob, if we say 'hey, wrestling's just as bad' and they decide to do something about it, are we any better than they are?

Oh no, this is just retarded.

And to add insult to injury, Hillary won Pennsylvania! Get under the biggest damn rock you can find, the Devil's comin' to town!

@NeW SpEcTrUM:

You make it sound like it was a surprise that Hillary won Pennsylvania... but I doubt she won it by enough.

Obama out-spent her on campaign ads 3 to 1, but she still came out ahead. That is a bad sign.

This election has so many wierd things to it, don't vote for Obama your racist, don't vote for hiliray you hate woman, vote for the republican you apprently love the Iraq war and people dieing.

Will there ever be an election ever be about issues and not left vs right?

@Ragnaar

Can't say I'm surprised, but it hurts all the same.

...Damn, do I sound melodramatic.

Would this have even been posted if this was done at a NFL football game that shares all three of those issues? Probably not.

Not surprising to see the next line of political puppets and douchbags parading with more hypocritical bullshit.

I hope the world ends soon :(

[...] Pure weirdness in current pres-candidates pony-ing up to be like WWE wrestlers… [...]
 
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Michael ChandraYou want a debate? Build a wall between you and the poisoned well. Make clear you despise it, despise the behaviour. Then get into the other issues you are troubled with, and don't say a single word again about the poisoned well.09/19/2014 - 3:46am
Michael ChandraAnd someone claiming #notyourshield was to be taken serious, when chatlogs show they wanted it going to hide even more harassment behind? Yeah, not buying a word you're saying. You poisoned your own well.09/19/2014 - 3:45am
Michael Chandraallegedly fired over giving a game a mediocre review and the company threatened to pull ads? Sorry but I ain't buying this.09/19/2014 - 3:45am
Michael ChandraBut people arguing this is horrible and just about ethics, even though there's very little support that journalistic integrity was actually violated here, while they never spoke up when a journalist was09/19/2014 - 3:43am
Michael ChandraIf people start with condemning the way GamersGate was used as a misdirection, then use a better hashtag, that would work in convincing me they mean it.09/19/2014 - 3:43am
Andrew EisenOoo, this one came down to the wire! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/749082525/nefarious09/19/2014 - 1:03am
Andrew EisenI don't doubt that many are truly interested in journalistic integrity. The problem I'm often seeing is they seem to have no idea how or where to talk about it.09/18/2014 - 11:46pm
Andrew EisenDidn't word that well. Busy at work. I've seen people claim that GamerGate is solely about ethics and transparency in games journalism and then go on to show that what they're really after is silencing those who talk about gender issues in games.09/18/2014 - 11:45pm
Kronodebate. Becaus apparently people who only post on Reddit are supposed to police twitter before they're allowed to question anything about the people involved.09/18/2014 - 10:40pm
KronoI highly doubt many, if any are using journalistic integrity as a cover for harassment. The people harassing are essentially trolls. They aren't interested in subtle. More often it's othe other way around. People use "but X is being harassed" to shut down09/18/2014 - 10:38pm
Andrew EisenAnd exacerbating everything is the fact that all the cries of ethics violations have been obnoxious and easily proven false.09/18/2014 - 8:59pm
Andrew EisenProblem is, I would imagine, the sheer number of people who are using journalistic integrity as a cover for their harassing actions or only bringing it up on the false pretense of journalistic integrity.09/18/2014 - 8:47pm
Andrew EisenHaving said that, I can certainly see how one would be frustrated if they truly just wanted to talk about journalistic integrity and someone said they were one of the people harassing Sarkeesian, Quinn and others (though I've seen no examples of that).09/18/2014 - 8:44pm
KronoThat's been the common refrain, that talk of journalism ethics is just an excuse to harass people.09/18/2014 - 8:44pm
KronoLines like "like a partial compromise with the howling trolls who’ve latched onto ‘ethics’ as the latest flag in their onslaught against evolution and inclusion." are taring everyone questioning the ethics as a harasser.09/18/2014 - 8:43pm
Andrew EisenKrono - Except, none of the articles were talking about gamers complaining about journalist ethics, let alone called them white male misogynists. They were talking about the gamers who were harassing others.09/18/2014 - 8:36pm
Kronomakes plenty of sense. It's rather hard to dismiss someone as a white guy running a sock puppet when they've posted proof they're a woman, or black, or another minority.09/18/2014 - 8:32pm
Kronothat any critics of journalists were white guys that hated women, and could be dismissed as such. It seems to have helped some. It's kind of difficult to maintain the white guy narrative in the face of a bunch of women and non-white guys. So the tag09/18/2014 - 8:32pm
Kronothat, someone vented on a #gamergate 4chan thread about being dismissed like that. The suggestion they got in return was to organize their own hashtag in response, with #NotYourShield being suggested. Thus the tag came into use to combat the undercurrent09/18/2014 - 8:32pm
Kronomuch more general problem. And while several of the articles were fairly tame, they spured a bunch of people to dismiss any critics of the journalism involved as misogynistic men. Usually with insults aimed at the geek stereotype. After about a week of09/18/2014 - 8:32pm
 

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