
Some video games at Chuck E. Cheese might be considered gambling devices under current South Carolina law. But Rep. Todd Rutherford (D) wants to change that.
As reported by
WSPA-7, the South Carolina House of Representatives will vote today on legislation which would exempt video games that issue prize tickets from a law intended to ban video poker machines. From the WSPA report:
Rep. Todd Rutherford, D-Columbia, the sponsor of the bill, calls it the “Chuck E. Cheese” bill, after the pizza restaurant that has games that give players tickets that can be traded for candy and toys. He says right now, a game like Skee Ball or a video game that offers something of value might violate the law.
[Rutherford] does not expect any opposition, since the bill would merely clarify that the children’s games at Chuck E. Cheese’s are not illegal.
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(to use an old, tired phrase) this is madness.
That said, there must be more important things going on in South Carolina, surely?
/b
*headdesk*
"OH MY GOD CHARLES E. CHEESE IS TRYING TO TEACH KIDS HOW TO GAMBLE, WHICH IS ILLEGAL!!!"
Let the S.O.B. sue me. I honestly don't give two shits about it anymore.
You never know what he can get into.
I'd probably support JT if he tried that, I hate that mouse.
This has got to be the biggest example of a pointless law ever. Its not gambling. Putting a dollar into the lottery is gambling. Scratchcards is gambling.
Getting tickets for a well played game of skeet ball is not gambling. Out of all the things I've read on this website this has to be the one that gets me miffed the most.
But the mere fact that anyone would consider busting Chuck E Cheese type games under the no gambling law miffs me because its stupid.
Then I read that this is basically a consumer protection law. Folks, this is gaming legislation that is GOOD. It merely updates the term gambling to exclude Chuck E. Cheese and other similar restaurant/arcades from any association with gambling.
I'm so confused! My world, it no longer makes sense! =)
I grew up in Greenville, SC. When there was nothing else to do, a few of us would head on over to Chuck's place. Every summer there was at least one of our friends working there.
In fact, one summer I was a part-time employee there. Yes...I was Chuck E. Cheese. Nothing sucks more than being stuck in a smelly suit that did not get cleaned out by the last user, then spending your entire night hugging kids greased up from eating pizza.
I still remember the horrors...the night a small group of kids invented the game called "Kick Chuck E."....the horror....
Although, come to think of it, pinball had this same problem when casinos started using them. NY alone held their ban on pinball unitl the 80's. This could be the same issue.
Especially since other venues like, say, Gameworks would have also been targeted, unfairly I bet too since Gameworks has adults oriented games like House of the Dead, all three of them
and if they are calling the games to win tickets gambling I am ready for the world to fall into the sun now.....
Skee ball requires skill, but many of these other redemption games do not, go play some at an arcade and you will see what I am talking about.
However, the fact that a child will get addicted to these machines is probably nonexistant unless their parents take them there every night. Its up to the parents here to decide when its too much, if it gets to that point. I cannot think of an instance where a kid has gotten addicted to these machines, this is probably due to the parental intervention required. Its also worth noting that CEC doesn't allow children in their arcade alone, while many other arcade chains could care less how many kids are running around in there unsupervised. You have to be 18 to be able to walk into CEC without a parent or responsible adult.
Upon reading the article, it's actaually not a bad thing.
Sorry folks.
9:00am and all...
You almost said that like it's a bad thing.
What could you gamble for,extra tokens?!
I just got the biggest kick outa that.
@Sara
I don't consider it gambling completely, but it falls into a gray area. You cannot invest your winnings back to get more winnings. You insert TOKENS and you get TICKETS. Chuck-e-Cheese tickets are not exchangeable for tokens. You cannot put the tickets back in the machines to play for more tickets. When you get the tickets, it's the end of the line. They're useless unless you exchange them in the pool of prizes.
Well... I have no comment, besides, JT would probably try to get into this issue.
Am I dreaming?
No. You can not take those purchased tokens and redeem them for cash or prizes. On each token it reads: NO REDEMPTION VALUE.
The tokens are used to play in skill games only. Tickets you receive based on skill are redeemable for prizes.
So, you can't wager something of value, because those tokens are worthless. It's hard to understand because you paid $1.00 to get 4 tokens. So therefore, each token is worth $0.25? Wrong. Each token is worth $0.00. CEC will not give you $1.00 for your 4 tokens.
IF CEC did give you money for your tokens, then they are operating an illegal casino. Think of the tokens as casino chips.
This is obsurd...
Gambling by definition is wagering money or something of value, on an uncertain outcome, for a chance to win more money or something of material value.
If skill is required to gain something of value, then it's not considered gambling. Take for example, a golf tournament. Players pay an entry fee to compete and the winner of the tournament receives a large sum of money for being the best. Unlike the lottery, everyone is subject to set odds (or chance). No one has an advantage over the next person. You put in money, cross your fingers and hope to win. That's gambling.
Going back to the golf tournament, if I were to place 2:1 odds on Tiger Woods to win the Masters (I being the House that pays out the cash), then that's considered gambling because I have given you an opportunity to win more money based on chance. Now anyone that wants to win more money on the outcome of the golf tournament, will be subject to my set odds payout.
CEC games are not gambling. There are no odds of winning. All their games are skill based for you to win tickets and redeem for prizes. But if you offer a kid 20:1 odds of hitting the 100 hole in skeeball, then you're gambling.
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