Jack Thompson Boards the GTA IV Bus Ad Bash

April 23, 2008
On the side of a bus kiosk in South Florida, there is a poster.

On the poster is a drawing of a man. The man is sneering, but he's not doing anything remotely pornographic or violent. He's not doing anything, really. There are some words on the poster, too. They're not obscene. Nor do they incite violence.

The poster is an ad for Grand Theft Auto IV.

And anti-game Miami attorney Jack Thompson wants it torn down.

Thompson, a long time critic of the Grand Theft Auto series, apparently took note of Monday's GamePolitics report detailing the Chicago Transit Authority's removal of GTA IV ads from its buses and facilities. In an e-mail sent today to Miami Mayor Carlos Alvarez, Thompson, who took the picture that accompanies this article, writes:
I was shocked today to see a six-foot-high advertisement for Grand Theft Auto IV, a hyperviolent video game... on the side of a Metro Miami-Dade bus stop located... near Children’s Hospital.  In fact, the advertisement was adjacent to a kids’ park...

The Grand Theft Auto games have been obsessively played by a number of teens who have then copycatted the outrageous, sociopathic violence in the games and killed innocent people...

The ESRB descriptor on GTA IV indicates this game contains “Strong Sexual Content.”  The sale of this game to any minor will constitute a criminal act violative of... Florida’s “Sexual Material Harmful to Minors Law”...

There are also several paragraphs of Thompson's standard I've been on 60 Minutes with Ed Bradley... GTA is cop killer game... etc, etc, etc...

GP: It will be interesting to see how the mayor reacts. And how the game industry will respond to any potential order to remove the ads. From here, any such action by the mayor's office or the quasi-governmental transit company would seem to be a First Amendment violation.

While the game biz has passively rolled over and accepted past removals of GTA ads from transit vehicles in Boston, Portland and now Chicago, it's about time they made a stand on this issue.

Allowing attention-hungry critics or mayors or transit agencies to force the removal of an ad with no offensive content is not only a free speech violation, but it demonizes GTA IV and, by extension, demonizes the millions of gamers who will be playing the game when it launches next week. 

As we have pointed out, the 1st US Circuit Court ruled in Change the Climate vs. Massachusetts Bay Transit Authority that bus company censorship of ads based on viewpoint is unconstitutional.

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I can't stand Jack Thompson; but if he's correct that the ad is next to both a children's hospital and a park, then I find myself agreeing with him on this one. The young children who frequent these areas simply aren't the audience Rockstar should be targeting. By advertising in a place like that, they are contradicting the notion that Grand Theft Auto is a mature game meant for mature audiences.

"The sale of this game to any minor will constitute a criminal act violative of… Florida’s 'Sexual Material Harmful to Minors Law'…"

I'm certain the mayor already knows this. And I'm not sure how taking down a sign a week before the release, long after the game has had time to get known, is going to do anything. In fact, all of Thompson's attention to it has probably increased its publicity.

I for one want to buy it more and more each time I hear about Thompson crying to the media or officials for help against it.

In the actual letter that is posted over at Kotaku Jacko writes, "The Chairman of Take-Two, Strauss Zelnick, got his start in show business making pornographic gagsta rap albums"
Does anyone know what albums Jacko is talking about? I can't finad any real info on it. Zelnick doesn't even appear to have a wikipedia page. One site I found said he was at BMG.
With Jacko's history with 2 Live Crew and the Cop Killer song if Zelnick was involved with one of those it might be the missing link in why Jacko is so out to get GTA but 2Live Crew was not on a major label and Body Count was Sire/Warner Brothers.

Well,it just isn't a high profile game release without our good buddy Jack trying to f*ck it up wit his signature"Video Games are responsible for all the violence in the world".Keep an eye out for when he'll try and mess up Gears Of War 2's release.Ya know,it's uber violent,and such.

A desperate man, desperate for attention, desperately grasps at straws. Seems to come off as desperate if you ask me but then again I've never been on 60minutes.

@waffles & grizzam 512

contact me in a month and i will have a support group started for you 2 (and others) =p

@waffles

That's one hell of a paper cut your brother got. :D

Who didn't see this one coming?

"The ESRB descriptor on GTA IV indicates this game contains “Strong Sexual Content.” The sale of this game to any minor will constitute a criminal act violative of… Florida’s “Sexual Material Harmful to Minors Law,” and yet here is an ad for this pornographic, cop-killing game on County property right next to a kids park."

Because we all know sexual content always means pornography/sarcasm

First?

Anyway, should have seen this coming. GTA+JT=lawsuit.

The scary thing is, he actually has a chance of wining this. It's a small issue, and so the ad may be taken down. Granted, It's just that oe ad, but still I don't like JT winning anything.

Oh that jack! *sigh*



You know, he says a lot of things in that letter, and none of them are put across as his opinion, bu facts instead. Doesnt that make him legally liable for fraud/libel or some such thing. Especially if TT lose revenue for losing advertising.

Seeing as how he’s mayor, Alvarez is doubtlessly familiar with JT’s current legal situation as well as his previous antics. If so, he must already know Jack is already on thin ice and will likely be disbarred before long, so really he shouldn’t have to listen to anything he has to say.

Eat it, Jack. You’ve lost. Those ads are staying up and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it.

I have a question. What was the ad before GTA? Was it an R rated movie? I'd put money down that there have been just as racy if not racier ads there over the past few years. If he's trying to "Protect the children" where was he then?

[...] wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptOn the side of a bus kiosk in South Florida, there is a poster. On the poster is a drawing of a man. The man is sneering, but he’s not doing anything remotely pornographic or violent. He’s not doing anything, really. There are some words on the poster, too. They’re not obscene. Nor do they incite violence. The poster is an ad for Grand Theft Auto IV. And anti-game Miami attorney Jack Thompson wants it torn down. Thompson, a long time critic of the Grand Theft Auto series, apparently took note of Monday’s GamePolitics report detailing the Chicago Transit Authority’s removal of GTA IV ads from its buses and facilities. In an e-mail sent today to Miami Mayor Carlos Alvarez, Thompson, who took the picture that accompanies this article, writes: I was shocked today to see a six-foot-high advertisement for Grand Theft Auto IV, a hyperviolent video game… on the side of a Metro Miami-Dade bus stop […] [...]

So ads of R rated movies with horrific images as ads are okay. But a picture of a guy just standing there doing nothing with the words "Grand Theft Auto IV" is an unacceptable tragedy?

How silly

I just started reading this blog, so please forgive my ignorance, but who is this guy and why is he important?

If Alvarez caves into this, I will personally head down south to kick his ass for being such a dumbass.

Never mind, read the archives

alfrro.

He is the leading critic of video games

so far he has failed to do anything.

dennis.
so are buying gtaIV?

GP: Yep. Although I expect to receive a review copy, I've also pre-ordered the Xbox 360 version.

i think he reads GP, and sees how long it's been since he was mentioned, before deciding to do something crazy.

I know I always say the same, but, seriously: why are we still publishing what this lunatic says every time he opens his mouth or writes some stupid mail?

Oh no! Now the little kids know there's a new Grand Theft Auto game coming out! And we were trying to keep it a secret, too!

Now how are we gonna keep them from walking into stores and buying it with overly large allowances and no parents around?

Woah, like this wasn't as predictable as pollen season in Florida.

Would someone disbar JT already? Seriously, he's going to get on his high horse again and trot it around here like he's some knight instead of being more like Don Quixote.

So basically just another day of saving humanity from itself sponsored by Commander Failsalot?

Guess he's gotta make payments on his '92 Geo Metro somehow!

"The sale of this game to any minor will constitute a criminal act violative of… Florida’s “Sexual Material Harmful to Minors Law”…

Ah yes, the old game = porn/public buisance tactic. Remember how that succeeded for him in the past? Oh wait... it didn't. It led to his personal and unprofessional insulting of a judge when it was decided that a game isn't a public nuisance that in turn led to the sanctions against him.

Games are not harmful to people. Until there is concrete evidence to that fact (and i doubt that there ever will be), you cannot have games censored or banned for being harmful.

Maybe they could change their ads to something a bit more subtle. Same artistic style & text but instead of saying "Grand Theft Auto 4", it could just say "You KNOW what game it is" (or perhaps "Thompson's Nemesis"). At least that way they couldn't come up with the idiotic charge of it attempting to incite 4 car thefts because we all know that kids do EXACTLY what they're told on bus stop posters.

Jack's being predictably toolish, in fact, if he were any more of a tool you could use him to cut wood, change a tyre or trim the hedges.

@Salen

That may be one of the greatest analogies for Thompson there is. A crazy old guy who things he's going out to save people from terrible monsters only to be taken out by some windmills.

wait, I thought that the Florida bar removed his vocal cords and took off his fingers, and disconnected his internet and locked him In a room and soldered the key to the lost ark, what happened?

@GP:

There's an interesting distinction to be drawn between ads on a bus stop shelter and ads on a bus. The two may not be afforded quiet the same protection because the latter involves the so-called "captive audience."

@ The Conspriacy

Even if by some long shot miracle Jack Manages to get the mayor to listen to him, it’s an extremely small victory in the grand scheme of things. Oh wow, Jack. You managed to pull down a GTA ad from a bus stop. Go you! That doesn’t change the fact that it’ll still be advertised in magazines, comic books and on TV and sell a gazillion copies no matter what you do.

So yes, he would obviously be crowing about and want to rub our faces in it as only he can, as we all no he savors whatever victory he can get, however small and insignificant it is, but in the grand scheme of things.

@AliasAlpha:

Perhaps, if he weren't as dull as a plastic butterknife. :P

@Black Manta

He'll probably go so far as to appear on FOX if he wins.

"Well as you know, I helped to save the Free World recently. Grand Theft Auto IV, a hyper-violent, murder-simulator that was recently found in a Harvard study to have been created by none other than Satan himself, was being advertised near a children's park. Despite the fact that it's being advertised on billboards, television and the internet, I realized I had to stop this.

It was a complete victory. I had a single poster torn down saving thousands of children from a life of debauchery and murder."

Wow, I'm so surprised! I never expected Jack Thompson to do this of all things!

lol is this all Joke Thomson has left?

He is completely impotent now. What a fucking disgrace.

Jack, you should be with your wife.

Oh, and cite your sources if you're gonna pull this.

"Hyperviolent"? Are you kidding me? "Ultraviolent" was inarticulate enough, but "hyperviolent" just sounds stupid.

"Hyper-violent"? Did he get tired of the word "Ultra-violent"?

@TextOnlySword and Wookiee

Oh I'm pretty sure he's been using it for awhile. Like when he threatened Bill Gates:

"The hyperviolent Microsoft Xbox 360 game Halo 3 is scheduled by your company for commercial release in September of this year. The Beta version that was released last week shows us all just how violent the game is and how inappropriate it is for play by anyone under 17, as the “Mature” rating it will surely receive indicates."

@Wookiee & TextOnlySword

He may have just bought a dictionary and worked out that 'hyper' makes more sense in that context than 'ultra'. Or he is just insane ...

Yawn. Just another spasm from a washed-up lawyer in his deat throes. Looking forward to your long vacation once you get disbarred, Jack? Why, I bet once you're jobless you can picket Take-Two in New York all you want! I'll even supply you with the cardboard and laundry marker.

I hope the mayor gives to Jack the GTFO treatment he fully deserves... but then, Jack will assault the mayor´s fax machines in revenge. Oh well...

@GRIZZAM 512:

I thought he did? Or does 'pulled out of his ass' not count?

@DarkTetsuya

Yeah, b-but two is a number... right? Right?

And so is none-that-have-ever-been-proven-to-be-linked-to-any-video-game.

Now I am for the GTA4 bus ads and everything, but if Jack is telling the truth for once I must say that GTA4 ads near a children's hospital and park is in poor taste.

I agree with GP-I hope Rockstar games or Take Two actually does something to defend themselves if this mayor falls for Johnny Bruce Thompson's gross prevarication of the actual facts concerning GTA IV...

I already pre ordered my PS3 version. Im just a kid. My mom pre ordered it for me. My parents will let me play any game. Yes they do care about me. When people say parents who buy their kids M rated games are stupid thats not true. They know im mature enough to understand and handle this stuff. Im only 12. Ive been playing violent videogames since I was 3 or 4. When my dad found out that my grand theft auto san andreas had the hot coffee thing he actually told me to keep it. He said it will be valuable in the future. It will probably cost a lot of money in the future.

gee, and i thought Thompson was too busy threatening to send me to federal prison to worry about it.

I kinda agree with jack thompson in this. I dont think that ad should be near a childrens hospital. But I would just put the ad someplace else. Also Jack Thompson ezaggerates in this.
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