Illinois Congressman Sees Threat to Children in Second Life

Rep. Mark Kirk (R-IL) has called upon the Federal Trade Commission to issue an alert regarding what he says is a potential risk to children who play the popular online game Second Life

As reported by the Chicago Tribune, Kirk said:

If you ask: Do you know about MySpace? The average parent will say yes. But the average parent doesn’t know anything about Second Life…

Sites like Second Life offer no protections to keep kids from virtual “rape rooms,” brothels, and drug stores. If sites like Second Life won’t protect kids from obviously inappropriate content, the Congress will.

Mt. Prospect, Illinois Mayor Irvana Wilks echoed Kirk’s concerns:

This Second Life is a new scare, unchartered territory. It hits home.

GP: We note that Rep. Kirk is currently running for re-election.

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    StealthKnight ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Though I have not played second life, From some of the posts here about second life like the British memorial that was made, I think it is obvious that second life is not porn. It is an open source community that possibilities are endless. Of course you will get some bad with the good but that is happens in real life too. That does not mean you associate the bad with the intended purpose of the activity.

    Sam: I would not necessarily blame second life for your sisters actions. The fact that her character was a virtual prostitute might be that she is exploring her sexuality with out actually doing it. She might be curious and want top know more about sexuality. I was too at my age but I merely looked up info. She should have a gentile, open-minded discussion with someone she trusts like a consoler or a close adult. She be having problems at school or in life and she is seeking an escapism to forget about it.

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    Sam says:

    Dude my mom doesn’t even know how to turn the PC on, it was totally my fault that she got that into it in the first place, but back then I didn’t even know there were islands like that in the game, I didn’t know it was filled with so much scum.

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    Cavalier ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It’s not as though you log into SL and BAM! FLYING PENIS EVERYWHERE. That’s just another tired old exaggeration.

    Basically, SL was not -ever- meant to BE a game. It’s a world engine that’s designed to be insanely customizable. Think of it as the 3d video version of AOL chatrooms, and you’re about on the money. Yes, some weird stuff goes on in places, but it’s largely confined to its own spaces, much like it was largely so back in the AOL Chatrooms days.

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    Shadow Darkman, Anti-Thesis of Jack Thompson, ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    HA HA!!!


    One person’s blocker went so far as to actually censor anything they typed, actually removing curse words from messages sent via IM; the other’s bans an extremely wide variety of sites, including not the major internet humor communities (such as ##### and Something Awful), but Youtube and Google Image Search as well (not to mention a wide variety of other useful sites)!


    Second Life is a 3d virtual combination of Lego, DeviantArt, IRC, ##### and EBay.

    @Ben Ambroso

    The ##### part only is there because its one of the easiest games to grief in your own custom way.

    Rule Number One: In no way shalt thou speaketh of the Asshole Of The Internet.

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    Ben Ambroso ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    The 4chan part only is there because its one of the easiest games to grief in your own custom way. Still, I’d take out Ebay and make it Amazon. Then, you’ve hit it on the head.

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    -Jes- ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Second Life is a 3d virtual combination of Lego, DeviantArt, IRC, 4Chan and EBay.

    That said; Yay, another politician jumping for a digital scapegoat.

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    Ben Ambroso ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Alright, this is coming from a person that’s been in Second Life since December 2003. I can say that I agree in some ways, but again, this comment is so vague that it could encompass just about anything. So, I’ll put in my view on this.

    Children should only be allowed, if over the age of 13, into the Teenage/PG portion of the Second Life world. They would do so with parental knowledge, and Linden Labs is…well, they’re decent when it comes to keeping the PG areas clean. So it’s not “uncharted” or “scary” because it’s still got that good seperation.

    Now, with that in mind, its the same idea of kids playing M rated games. The sign-up process is based pretty much on an honesty system. Most anywhere you can put in fake info, a fake age, and get access as an adult even if you aren’t. I have a few friends in Second Life that are 16-18. But they also are mature enough to know what’s going on and understand it.

    As I sit here and think through all the different things in Second Life that could potentially be bad (Gor, Midian/Toxian, BDSM playground, etc etc) none of them are so horrific that they would even phase people. I’ve never went anywhere and went “Oh damn, I shouldn’t be here, this is just wrong”. I’m not sure that the locations and the things involved at said locations are the problem. The only real problem I can imagine is kids taking their parents’ credit cards and spending their money on these virtual products.

    Again, to argue FOR Second Life, it promotes how it is open source, and allows for an infinite number of possibilities. Kids and teens with a great amount of creativity should be allowed to build their own ideas. Anyone else here grow up playing with legos? I don’t think you can consider that there is an unknown evil inside of Second Life any more than you can consider there is an unknown evil inside of anything else that ever existed.

    And I’m spent.


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    EvilZombie says:

    How can parents not know their kid plays second life? Doesn’t it cost money? Unless the kid has a credit card won’t the parents find out…

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    TheTrueMrJack says:

    “If you ask: Do you know about MySpace? The average parent will say yes. But the average parent doesn’t know anything about Second Life.”

    The maybe they should make it their buisness to know. You know, like a goddamn PARENT.

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    Coravin ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’m still amused that he thinks most parents know what Myspace is. WAY too much credit to parents, in my experience. Unless they, you know, have their own online lives or make a pointed effort to be involved in their kids’ lives, they’re generally shockingly clueless.

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    kurisu7885 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    sorry if I came across as a kneejerk, course, it’s kind of hard to remain partial after being attacked for so long

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    Gelmax says:

    DJ Sessum, Satch: Plenty of people go on Second Life. It isn’t particularly popular among conventional gamers or MMO addicts, but it has a significant appeal to bored kids (you can complain all you like about it being boring, but content creation is still a whole lot less repetitive than your average MMO, and that’s a major draw of Second Life), and real-world companies (who hear about a “virtual world” and immediately seek to establish a presence there). Just because YOU don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s irrelevant.

    Valdearg: Actually, the pornographic content is the OTHER major draw of Second Life – niche communities, such as furries, love the place, and are probably one of the biggest sources of income. The reason for the divide between Second Life and Teen Second Life is probably because there are a LOT of users who play SL – and spend money on SL – for the sake of adult content, but Linden didn’t want to exclude minors completely, so they made TSL as a compromise…but since there’s no real age verification, the choice between SL and TSL has more to do with what kind of content you want to see than what your actual age is.

    Kurisu: “Well, she SAID she was over 18” is not a defense in a wide variety of things, including but not limited to the distribution of content the government has deemed unsuitable for minors – if you don’t do real age verification, then legally it’s your fault there’s kids on your servers. If it doesn’t seem like it to you, then that’s mainly because the vast majority of the internet mostly or completely ignores pornography law (and I’d guess that most users don’t even know the particulars of applicable laws at all), and the reason there hasn’t been any major fuss is because even the US government knows better than to seriously try to police the internet. Additionally, you should note that all Representative Kirk is doing is trying to INFORM PARENTS about this kind of stuff – he IS NOT TRYING TO BAN SECOND LIFE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I’m a gamer too, but the reason the media doesn’t listen to us is because we tend to go for kneejerk reactions like yours whenever someone dares to insult the honor of our favorite game. A few years ago, people used to intelligently refute claims that the GTA series was responsible for violent crimes, but after a few years of Jack Thompson, the gamer community just labels anyone who raises those concerns an idiot and doesn’t bother to actually address those concerns.

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    Satch says:

    I logged on to see what it (a second life) was all about and after about 10 minutes i fell sound asleep. It is about as watching grass grow.

    I would say that the dweeb from Illinois has never looked at it and it simply trying to make noise so someone might notice him. Hello???

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    kurisu7885 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Well, in that case, then where are the parents in all this?

    I know there are tech savvy kids who know how to hide their tracks, which means, honestly, parents need to wise the hell up and learn a few things about basic computer use.

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    Valdearg ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    @ kurisu7885

    However, if they aren’t found out and wish to access those areas, they could easily do so. Believe me, its not difficult to lie to anybody about your age. I was 19 from the time I was 15 to when the day before I turned 20, according anyone I played games with. I learned early on that If I misrepresented my age, people wouldn’t form false opinions about your maturity level.

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    kurisu7885 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    It’s obvious you haven’t played it now.

    A child would need to lie about their age to get onto the Second Life main grid where all of the adult stuff is, and if found out they’re banned pretty fast. And anyone who wishes to avoid adult content on the main grid can, easily.


    Sorry to hear about what your sister did dude. at least you put a stop to it, but that begs the question, were your parents even watching he online activities?

    The only people who should be censoring/monitoring content on a computer is the computer’s owner, typically the parents.

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    @DJ Sessum


    Only those who can’t hack it in decent games

    /sarcasm off

    now seriously, I know a couple people who play it, and enjoy it, once again, like I have seen for multiple online games, for the “social atmosphere”. That said, Second Life is quite honestly about as appealing to me as having salt crystals shoved under each of my toenails.

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    Valdearg ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’ve never played Second Life, but upon reading what some GP Readers have to say about the game, I would have to agree that the game should at the very least be better policed. Unfortunately, there are a very small minority of “Gamers” out there who think that using the ability to create custom player content in a game means pollute the atmosphere with the most perverse, disgusting content imaginable. Even worse is that a game like Second Life draws them all into a small community where the problem multiplies. If we are going to allow things like that to happen, Sony needs to do a better job with Age Verification and prevent children from coming in contact with those, for a lack of a better word, “Freaks.” I’m usually pretty liberal on the morality side of things. Im not offended by mainstream pornography, homosexuality, violence, or things of that nature, but when things that make me uncomfortable, like Furries, Fringe Porn, Underage Sex, are exposed to children, I’ve got to draw a line..

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    BOBBY ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    There was a study saying that most people in second life usually create their character after themselves. That tells me that you should ask you sister some questions about why she choice to be a prostitute on the game in the first place. Video games portray real life most of the time, not the other way around.

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    Sam says:

    I totally agree with this guy. I played second life a few times last year and showed it to my sister. She totally ate it up, she was about 15 at the time. I got bored and quit playing, she didn’t. A few weeks passed and I decided to go up and see what my sister was doing. She was playing Second Life of course, and she was working at her “job.” She was a prostitute. she worked at a club island where she would have digital “relations” with other players. Immediately after seeing this I deleted the game and blocked all links to the website. She got angry at first, but doesn’t miss the game at all now. It needs to be stopped, or at least censored.

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    BOBBY ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    GP. What do you think is more dangerous for kids, I.m. or video games? I would like to point out the show “To Catch a Preditor.”

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    StealthKnight ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    He is a little late on the uptake. That would be like a European in the old times asking that there is a country across the ocean when everyone has known about it for a hundred of years. If people like him ran history, we would still be in the dark ages. What a weakling! Fear of the unknown?Learn about it or be doomed to repeat history. Maybe someone should show him the book 1984

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    Christophe Janson ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Fear the unknown! OMG you can meet strangers online! Everyone wants your booty cause you are so young and we can all see you age just by looking at you trough our monitor!! OMG STRANGER DANGER STRANGER DANGER!!1!!! They may tell your child bad words so he teaches other kids the words at school. OMG when your child is online he has no friends cause he is addicted to games and is planning to kill the whole school!! MAYBE HE LISTENS TO MARILYN MANSON!!! OMG

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    Nekowolf ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    You know what I find funny? Some of you are saying kids do play Second Life and stuff, whatever. Like Gelmax. Okay, so they play it? By the time I was 14, I was already on the internet and looking at porn. Which is worse, Second Life, or porn (though from what I’ve heard, they’re probably about the same). And, not really making an argument with it, but: “Second Life is the only MMO where you can actually purchase or even make virtual genitals for the purpose of cybersex.” The way I see it, is if you do that, you lack imagination and creativity. I was looking at porn since before I was 18 for at least a few years, and I turned out fine.

    Besides, the only way it’s really a threat is if your kid is stupid enough to give out any personal information.

    I’m not saying a warning about what on there is bad, but a lot of this “threat” is blown way out of proportion.

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    Saint13 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    I have the PERFECT internet filter. Works without fail. Seriously- it annoys the crap out of my 16 year old, but it keeps him off questionable Web sites 100% of the time.

    I put his computer in the living room.

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    Tammej says:

    OMG! The evilz! The Internet is nothing but a safety hazard for children! The only people playing Second Life are idiots, child molestors and furries! KEEP OFF THE INTERNET! This message brought to you by:

    C-itizens U-nited N-egating T-echnology (for life and peoples’ safety)

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    dmr9748 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Well, if the computers were in fact theirs, why would they put an internet filter on their computer that did not have an option to allow individual filtering either by username or through a password system like Norton Internet Security?

    Now, if these are computers that they did not own, well, then they need to speak to whomever does own the computers which is most likely their parents.

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    kurisu7885 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:



    Giving a gentle warning about what’s on there = good

    Trying to have Linden Labs incarcerated = bad

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    Gelmax says:

    Which is why this congressman is informing parents that Second Life, in fact, can contain adult content and that parents should pay attention to when their child is using it, just like they should with Myspace.

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    kurisu7885 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:


    Only way for kids to get on the main grid is to lie about their age, same as they do on other adult oriented web sites

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    Gelmax says:

    I’d like to raise the point that Internet filters are NOT a perfect answer. I’ve known two people, both over the age of 18, who had internet filters on their personal computers which were extremely disruptive of their internet activities. One person’s blocker went so far as to actually censor anything they typed, actually removing curse words from messages sent via IM; the other’s bans an extremely wide variety of sites, including not the major internet humor communities (such as 4chan and Something Awful), but Youtube and Google Image Search as well (not to mention a wide variety of other useful sites)! Every time one of them asks me to send them an image or an excerpt from a website because they can’t access it, I’m reminded that while internet filtering software is an easy answer and certainly good enough for young children, automated blocking is a bit too heavy-handed for teenagers, who find their internet use much restricted.

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    EvilTikiMan ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Lame! I have played second life and I can say without a doubt that he doesn’t know jack about this game.
    1. “This Second Life is a new scare…” Wrong! This game is not that new. It was made in 2003 and despite various patches has not changed that much if at all. The graphics, controls, and interface are still just as bad as ever. The controls and general interface for this “game” is so horrible that it is irritating just to look around, and maddening to change cloths. The animations and actions are incredibly disjointed that the designers who initially made this game should be ashamed and embarrassed when they compare it to Any other game made around or even before it.

    2.”unchartered territory” Not really. While technically it is the first of its kind in the sense of a simple online community where all you can do is chat and stuff, Every square inch of that game is charted and known to the developers since it is Contained withing the game. This is not a real place and the creators can change it to look however they wish. There is a map IN and OUT of the game the tells you exactly where everything and anything is. I sense that he is referring to something else, bit I just cant put it into words at the moment.
    3. “It hits home.” ???? I don’t get this last remark, even in the context of the game and his statements about it. Whatever.

    Overall this guy, as stated before, clearly doesnt know Squat about this game. It is far from being a good game, as I mentioned above, and it doesnt look like it is gonna get any better any time soon. However there are those who do still enjoy the game for whatever reason, and I wont begrudge them that. I know about all the creepy and crazy sex stuff that is in the game, but 1: this “game” is not just meant for only kids; Adults play this and many desire to be able to do and see more mature things.
    2:There are filters in place to keep young kids out of the nasty stuff.

    Probably the only real truth to what he said is that is that this “game” is not comparatively well know, particularly when compared to Myspace. But what he doesn’t realize is that there is almost just as much smut on Myspace (last time I checked). The only difference is that one is 3D and the other is 2D. There are just as many pervs, pedos, sickos, and overall F@#$ed up people on either of them.

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    Poppo says:

    That gamer zone guy needs to learn to link right, not just make copy pasta. Also, Shadow, tone it down bud; You’re looking like a hyper active 13 year old there, mate.

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    dmr9748 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    If your child is on the internet and you don’t know about it, now what they are looking at, or are too lazy to purchase any type of software that monitors their online activities then maybe you should re-think having internet access openly available in your home.

    In my honest opinion, if he is so concerned about this, maybe he should talk to some companies that develop programs that monitor internet activity in order to protect children while on the internet to help drive his campaign while helping promote better parenting in a technology rich environment.

    It would be a win-win situation because he is not pissing off anyone except kids who are doing stuff on the internet that they shouldn’t be or aren’t mature enough to be exposed to, parents can now keep control of their children’s internet activities, a program developing company is getting promoted by a congressman, and a congressman can boost his voter potential and approval rating through the roof.

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    JJMUG ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I have herd that there are furries on Second life, but the info came from Anon. If that is true it is a danger to everyone

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    JustChris says:

    I’d say any software that lets you create custom content and share it is bound to go wrong. I play Forza Motorsport 2 on occassion and while it is E-rated, go on to the car auctions and you’ll see hentai and porn decorated on cars. On a funny anecdote, I raced a car that said “GAY” in big letters on his doors.

    It’s like EGM said in their latest issue: “You can create wangs, wang enemies to shoot and wang trees to fly over. And if you’re too lazy to make your own, you can download other people’s wangs.”

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    H ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’ve encountered some teenagers on the SL main grid… they do get banned pretty quick if someone reports their age, but I all they need to do is stay quiet about it and they’re fine. The vast majority of the game’s population seems to be older, however, and I while it is a horrible horrible place (expect to see goatse, tubgirl, etc. until they no longer shock you, not to mention the eternal horrors of furry porn), I doubt there are many people on there who have not been introduced to the exact same material elsewhere on the internet.

    Oh, and since kids are obliged to lie about their age, I really don’t see SL as a haven for child predators. Sure, they EXIST on the game (like everywhere on the internet), but I suspect they’re too busy roleplaying with child-like avatars played by other dirty old men to track down the real children, who could be anyone.

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    Loudspeaker ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Epic Fail.

    Personally I’d be more concerned about those I govern and their FIRST LIFE rather than their SECOND LIFE.

    It must be pretty boring being a Congressman for Illinois.

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    Sai ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    …I’ve been to Second Life, and upon seeing all the sex animations, virtual penises and pedophilic furries I’m gonna have to agree with this one.

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    Gelmax says:

    Here I see a bunch of adult gamers going back and forth about what kids may or may not like…because, you know, they’re experts in that sort of thing. It may surprise you fellows to know that minors are real people too, rather than the legion of ADHD robots some people think them to be. Judging by the fact that I made both main grid AND teen grid accounts when I was just 16 years old, I would say that SL does not try particularly hard to verify one’s age. The only reason I stopped playing was because I didn’t know many people and Second Life’s community was bad enough that I had no intention of meeting people, so I just sat around on a friend’s floating island palace fooling around with code till I got tired of it and left – like any social game, though, Second Life becomes quite playable if you’ve got enough friends who’re also playing it.

    Additionally, Second Life IS a major issue and it’s about time that I’ve seen it addressed, since the real world has been desperately trying to root itself in SL for years. Many real-life businesses, banks, religious organizations, political groups, and even schools have official “outposts” in Second Life. It gives the game a certain air of legitimacy, and parents are more likely to hear about that than they are likely to hear about the fact that Second Life is the only MMO where you can actually purchase or even make virtual genitals for the purpose of cybersex.

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    linenoise says:

    I remember reading a quote from (if I remember correctly) the CEO of AOL from like 10-15 years ago. It went basically like “You wouldn’t let your child walk around town alone at night, so why would you let them use the internet alone?”

    Listing the “potential dangers” of every site is a waste of time. Parents need to be monitoring what their kids do, plain and simple. If the government really wanted to help, they should make sure parents understand rating systems, how to use net-blocking software, etc etc. For really young kids, I personally believe in locking them down to a handful sites is the best way to go – do most parents know you can even DO that?

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    JustChris says:

    @ Neneeko

    Yeah, that’s exactly what it sounds like.

    This is another one of those “let’s tack on a “kids” rider to some vaguely buzz-worthy topic” and call it a good public service deed for the day.

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    sheppy says:

    Kids shouldn’t be on second life for one. Second, it’s about time to some politician discovered what was up in Second Life instead of using it as a rally point. This is officially the only game where I was penetrated by a tree. Second Life really is a sick, sick place. How it’s been ignored for so long just shows the ignorance of politicians.

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    Cidas ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Don’t people create flying penises or something like that in second life? I could see why it could be viewed as harmful.

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    NeW SpEcTrUM ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Another conservative arsehole wants to be re-elected and tries to do so by playing the “Protect the Children” card, and uses for an example a VR that’s not really a game or interesting to kids. That’s pretty stupid…

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    lumi ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Summary: lolsecondlife

    More serious and accurate summary, quoted directly from Dennis: “Rep. Kirk is currently running for re-election.”

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    Neeneko ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    So basically he discovered that an adult, pretending to be a minor pretending to be an adult, can get access to porn on the internet.

    Welcome to 1990!

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    point09micron says:

    Do kid’s really play Second Life?

    I doubt many do. A game that’s not really a game is unchartered territory for most kids.

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    Belgarion89 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Unfortunately, the answer most Illinois politicians would give is “So how could I get kickbacks from this?” otherwise I’d be all over this. Clueless Illinois politicians is nothing new.

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    Puddington says:

    I think one of you Illinois readers should clue him in. It’s impossible to get onto the main Second Life grid without credentials, and you get permabanned if anybody ever figures out you’re not 18 and reports you.

    I hear the Teen Grid is pretty well policed, though, to make sure that there aren’t any wild virtual sex parties and porn malls. Kinda wish there were larger chunks of the main grid like that, too, now that I think about it.

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    1AgainstTheWorld ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I have a feeling he’s talking (or trying to talk about) the threat posed by online child predators, not about the game itself.

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    […] wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptRep. Mark Kirk (R-IL) has called upon the Federal Trade Commission to issue an alert regarding what he says is a potential risk to children who play the popular online game Second Life.  As reported by the Chicago Tribune, Kirk said: If you ask: Do you know about MySpace? The average parent will say yes. But the average parent doesn’t know anything about Second Life. […]

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    Tubatic ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Good thing, making parents aware of the free “MMO” scene.

    Bad thing, scaremongering using Second Life. Do kids really play around on Second Life a lot? What about Habo Hotel or RuneScape . . .

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    nightwng2000 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I know that it had the same great potential that virtual shopping malls had about a decade or more ago…

    And ended up nearly as failed.

    Really, it’s not that good or fun. Not to me anyway. Some folks think it cool. Good for them. Hope they enjoy it. But for me…. YUCK!

    NW2K Software

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    Nekowolf ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Oookay. So, really, unless he said more, he’s basically saying that simply not knowing is enough to threaten children.

    Well, I’d like to take in that I don’t think most children would even be interested in Second Life. I could be wrong, but I’d think they’d prefer other games that are actually, y’know, games.

    Nor is it “new” or “scare(y)” or “uncharted.” Maybe to this guy, but to the rest of us, it’s well-trodden.

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    Ben Ambroso ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Oh, one more thing ontop of this. In the time I’ve spent in Second Life, I can say that those of you bitching about “oh, you can buy virtual genitalia and fuck like rabbits!” or whatever need to realize that it’s not like a loaded gun left around the house. I can spend a few hours in Second Life going all around to different areas and never see one thing that’s sexually related. If I do, it tends to be in a mall and all you have to do is pass up the store. Its not like the EULA on Second Life states that you must have a penis or vagina and you must have sex all the time.

    Second life is MEANT to be open to anyone and their ideas, but that doesn’t mean YOU have to go see them! Yes, there are BDSM clubs, furry forests, Gor (which is not BDSM), fetish clubs, strip clubs, so on and so forth. Yet these are so out of the way to get to that it’s almost impossible to “stumble upon them”. If you look at Second Life for that alone, you may as well condemn Mass Effect for the one “sex” scene it has.

    Listen, for those of you that don’t understand Second Life, why it’s very popular, and how it works, it’s not that hard. Most people expect to be told very specifically what to do. Quests, leveling up, doing what the game tells you to do…common MMO practices. That is NOT what SL is, and if you go in with that mindset you’ll never understand it. Second Life is meant as a virtual community that exists inside a program that allows infinite possibilities. I’ve had so much entertainment come from building new things, writing scripts, meeting and chatting with people all over the world, going to live concerts every night, play Texas Hold’em (before the gambling ban), finding other things that people inside Second Life have created…there’s ALOT you can do. Those are my personal favorites and the possibilities of what to do are endless.

    Stop going on and on about Second Life = porn. It doesn’t. Anyone that took a few minutes to get out of (and yes, I’m going there) a Jack Thompson mentality to look into it more would realize how ridiculous that statement sounds.

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    TheEdge ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I never even knew about this game till this dude said something about it.

    I guess there is nothing to worry about,just some misinformed politician who knows nothing about games.

    And who would want to work as a prostitute in a game,when you could be chainsawing some Locust bastards in Gears Of War?!Logic,fellow com mentors…………….logic………

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    gs2005 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Meanwhile, the PTC is STILL bitching and moaning. Gavin McKiernan seems to suffer from diarrhea of the mouth. Here’s the URL:

    “Retailers of this game should be treating this as an adult product. If they sell cigarettes, pornography or other adult products then they should treat GTA the same way by not marketing it to youth and the general population and keeping it behind counters and out of reach and sight of youth.

    Is it really that bad? Yes. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry, the American Psychological Association, the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Family Physicians and the American Psychiatric Association all agree about the detrimental affect of violent media on the growing mind. Parents and retailers need to be more informed and treat this as the potential harmful product that it is. “

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    Shadow Darkman, Anti-Thesis of Jack Thompson, ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Damn. I have to admit, he has a point, TO AN EXTENT. It is possible for child predators to get into the section for kids disguised as a kid. Of course, he/she does have to be careful. At this point, I agree with Puddington.

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    Void Munashii ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    “This Second Life is a new scare”

    That about sums it up. Be afraid! Let your fear rule you, and know that only by voting for me can your fears be assuaged.

    SL is no more or less “dangerous” than any number of other online arenas where people can interact. it just looks nicer to show when you are talking about predators coming through the internet to bodily snatch your child through the screen.

    I have looked at it like this over the years. The internet is a giant city, there are dangers, and much of it is not kid-safe. If you would not let your child wander around San Francisco by itself, then why would you not supervise them online?

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