
The
Daily Mail serves up a rather bizarre video game bash piece this morning. Journalist and English mum
Rosie Millard (left) writes that the Nintendo DS, of all things, turned her family dysfunctional:
The 'toy' caused endless rows, sessions of screaming and increasingly regular parental punishments... What is constructive about playing football on a tiny screen, or washing a virtual dog, or watching a hideous pink pony trot around a pink palace decorated with shells?
...Our Nintendo had taken the guise of a small but toxic drug which, little by little, was poisoning my children...
I have first-hand evidence that using a Nintendo turns my delightful, curious and funny children into argumentative demons full of aggression, wholly uninterested in anything apart from playing, and then playing some more.
GP: Although it doesn't necessarily read that way, we're thinking Ms. Millard's article may be a bit tongue-in-cheek. By the way, did she buy her kids a
chipped DS? Call the piracy police!:
When the pale blue, £150 Nintendo finally arrived last November, fresh from Hong Kong (I had bought it on the net), crammed with a 'bundle' of 20 games including Brain Trainer, Fifa 08, and Nintendogs, my children hugged me tightly.
Via: MCVUK
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Buying one of anything for four children will make them fight over it, stupid.
(21 and NO CRIMINAL RECORD to date, other than minor traffic violations)
I'd suggest this lady do the same.
"Idle hands are the devil's playthings"
SO GET CRACKING!!
Don't have kids cause then you have more video games for yourself.
THIS IS ABSURD! Since when has that happened before??????
This is completely unacceptable and ALL video games should be IMMEDIATELY BANNED EVERYWHERE so that kids won't argue!!
LOL!!!
WTF LADY? Did the day care raise your kids up until this point and you are finally figuring this out?
Dog prostitutes no less.
When I was younger if I didn’t stop what I was doing when my mother asked she would beat my ass and then I would do what she told me. Have a back bone!
It sounds like she doesn't want to be responsible for parenting.
Chapter 43: How to stop a child from playing a handheld video game when you want them to do something else:
(1) Approach your child.
(2) Look stern, cross your arms.
(3) Tell child "Please turn off the game, you've had enough time to play it and should do for awhile."
(4) Some games require saving at a certain point. Be certain you have obtained sufficient information on your child's games to know about the save procedures. Allow a reasonable amount of time for saving (2 minutes for example).
(5) If child respectfully asks for a little more time, offer a respectful compromise, as you see fit.
(6) If child refuses, inform child the game will be taken away, even without allowing to save game, as needed.
(7) Be as firm as the situation warrents. Be as respectful to your child as your child has been to you.
(8) Use appropriate punishment methods, ranging from short term grounding to permanent removal of the game system.
Most importantly:
BE A PARENT!
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
What? The b**** had it coming!
HA HA! MULTIPLE ENTENDRES!
Anyways, sounds like someone just passing off the blame for her failure of being a parent. She probably got the DS just to get them off her hands and is now suffering big buyer's remorse.
EVIL I TELL YOU!!!!!!
These directions should be given to every parent.
Yeah, this is also the same lady who thinks her kids are precious snowflakes. Check out the family picture of her and the four kids on Kotaku. They're all scowling except for mum. They're little freakin monsters. What is she doing? Trying to teach these kids to be competitive? One DS for four kids? Either buy four or none at all. Of course they're going to fight over it. That's what kids do at that age!
..She also wrote a piece saying anyone who would correct or admonish her kids in public can go to hell because either they're perfect angels or "just kids being kids."
Screw this lady.
Sounds like he knew what was coming :)
Step 2: Take the DS away
Where's the problem here?
Seriously.
...
Seriously, it does.
1) Take the DS away
2) Buy a home console and only 4-player games, sheesh.
3) Buy 3 more DSes.
4) Teach your kids how to share.
Any of those work.
Also, lol @ using piracy for a simpathy vote.
Thought so.
Anyways, heres what I was going to post:
It sounds to me like you need some practice on handling your children better. I've grown up playing video games and while, yes, my parents did struggle a bit initially in curbing my desire to play games when I should be doing other things, they came up with a plan tailored to both parties needs that restricted my use when I needed to be doing other things. As of right now, I am 21, a successful post-secondary student, have a good job as a computer programmer, and am currently into my 15th year as an amateur performance cellist. Clearly, Video games did not ruin my life, and even now, they will remain part of my life until I can't handle a controller any more. The bottom line is all it takes is a little bit of understanding and thinking to get your children behave the way they should with regards to video games, and with some good parenting, your kids will be very successful, with or without video games.
Sounds like normal child behaviour to me you loon!
The best part is the picture of the kids.. I can tell by the evil look in their eyes that this chick's sons are far worse than she has any idea about.
Yeah, my money is on the DS.
no doubt man, have you ever been hit with a piece of hot wheels track? they hurt like hell.
As for the author of this mindless drivel, I seriously hope you meant this tongue-in-cheek, because if not, you're a complete and utter tool, and frankly, a failure as any sort of authority figure to your kids.
I also hope this is tongue in cheek. Otherwise she will not be winning mother of the year anytime soon... As in never...
Headlines are often petty, sensationalist or grossy misrepersenting a story. Ever heard a Brit joke "Ban This Sick Filth," well thats a classic reference to your standard hate mongering Mail headline.
Got seven minutes? Watch this, a bloke only gets news from the mail for a month and charts his progress, entertaining, insightful and tongue wedged firmly in cheek.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNUTWET14BU
Case. Fucking. Closed.
shes advocating software piracy.
what a role model.
Im inclined to think that its because the one who reviews the comments is most likely her, and since people arent supporting her no comments have been posted
Or can't be posted. Watch a comment praising her by our favorite lawyer make it.
http://www.leapfrog.com/
1-whipped/spanked
2-grounded from everything except breathing/eatting/sleeping
3-had the device confiscated for a long long LONG time and would have had a better chance of regetting the thing for christmas.
(in any order and all of the above.)
Also...when has ONE of ANYTHING been a good idea so SHARE with 4 kids? of course there will be fighting over whos turn it is to play it (this would happen with a barbi or hot wheel). When I was growing up I had a game gear (yes the 20 pound giant box that had the audoucity to be called portable =P) with sonic. Did I play it non stop? hell no, cuz i wasnt allowed, I played it when I was done with homework or on a trip somewhere. And if it did get taken away and I went and stole it from my parents like those kids did...my parents would have ensured I never had the chance to again. What would have happened is I would have recieved 1-3 above, but as an added bonus they would have sat me down, set the game in front me (at a safe distance) and smashed it to bits. The problem today is that parents dont want to parent (alot of them, not all). Get a clue morons, its not the game that is evil, its your lack of parenting (to the ones who dont.)
I have seen first hand how games cause frustration in children, especially in this age group, and I am not clear on whether the frustration was because she bought them 1 DS and there were multiple kids fighting over it (which will happen with any object that you bring one of into the house with multiple kids) or if the frustration was based on the fact that the game was difficult and too hard to play. My cousins don't have a problem with sharing the games and that does not cause argument but what causes argument is the actual gameplay, because its frustrating and difficult which leads to outbursts and one kid blaming another because the kid who was playing failed the level. They will randomly outburst in frustration even if one is sitting alone with the DS and something goes wrong in the game.
Case. Fucking. Closed.
I doubt it.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Wow, not being able to forsee that the kids would fight over a single lusted-over toy makes you a moron.
I'm guessing by the fact theres no daddy in the picture that she's from a low income family, and 3 more DS's would be a bit out of her price range
Jack Thompson: Ok, I will give you $1000 US Dollars if you give your children a single DS.
Dumb Ass Mum: But wont that cause fighting and unrest? not the Video Game aspect but the single toy for four children?
JT: toy? TOY? These are MURDER SIMULATORS and COP KILLERS and GATEWAYS TO HELL AND PR0N!
DAM: I dont know what pr0n is but it sounds bad, well you ARE a lawyer so you MUST be telling the truth, ok! I will help you with your cause!~
JT: Excellent...Smithers? Pay the lady her money! Im going for some "hot coffee"
true story.
Since she ordered it from HK, there isn't a way to say she didn't know what she was doing. The kids may have been begging for it, but she actually bought it... and, being a cheapskate, got a modded cartridge/system.
So, did she mean to appeal to all of them with that all in one?
Maybe she needs to spend more time thinking about the longer-term impact before making any purchases for sharable objects. She's just a crummy parent and refusing responsibility for her own actions. I feel sorry for her kids, not her.
Sadly, this is more common than my parents, who limited my time with a gameboy and even took it from me and hid it for weeks if I behaved poorly. That's good parenting; setting the line and establishing clear reward structures and penalties for behavior.
Something this breeder (not a parent) lacks.
I think this is the new advertising concept. They used to tell you important stories were coming up:
"President visits Pensylvania."
When that didn't get enough veiwers/readers, they tried to entertain:
"A dog saves the life of a Fireman, details coming up!"
Still not enough readers, so then they tried to frighten:
"There is something in your home that is slowly killing your children, find out what it is at nine!"
Now, the next great idea is to insult a group, and watch all the viewers come rolling in. I think they are working on the idea that there is no such thing as bad publicity.
"Gamers are morons!"
"Nintendo didn't raise my children the right way!"
"Top 10 reasons why our viewers suck!"
For now on, whenever a news story insults gamers, tells a rediculous story like the one above, or has JT on for any reason, they will not get my viewing, my advertising hit, or anything. I'll make a note in GP, perhaps, but I won't support Faux News, Daily Fail, or any other tabloid press.
As for the story:
I've seen bad parents, and I've seen how their kids turn out. I wouldn't like to see how these kids turn out in 15 years. I wonder how many will be out on probation and how many will still be in jail. Kids will be kids, but you need to learn this stuff sometime, and if their parents don't teach them, they will have entitlement issues, which often lead to taking something because they think they deserve it, or simply because they want it. When I was 5 I had already learned that you don't mess with your siblings stuff, and that it was better to give something up and have the option of playing it later then to have something removed altogether. Simple cause and effect. This lady sounds like a dog fight promoter, throwing a toy in amougst her children just to see who would come out with it.
Also if you throw a DS into a family of 4 with 20 games they are going to fight A LOT MORE than if you just got them a DS with one legit game. Giving a kid 20 games is very overwhelming and will just cause even more frustration.
I could also go on about how she is encouraging her children to pirate by purchasing the system with the illegal cart, if she wants to talk about how badly the games influenced the kids. It doesn't matter her income level, just because you have 4 kids and a low income does not give you the right to pirate video games.
Gift.
To be fair, that baby was being a dick
I think Bill Maher summed up handling discipline problems with small kids best with (and I'm paraphrasing here) "You're bigger than them, use your size advantage"
My sister-in-law had a similar problem when she got her son a DS and not her daughter. Her solution was to buy the daughter one for her birthday too, and thus ended the fighting over them.
Now if she'd just stop them from bringing the games to the dinner table. If I can take a break to eat, so can they.
Dogstitutes?
News flash, Children don't like to make their beds, tidy their rooms or enforced music practice. Given half a chance they'll do something they find fun to do instead, it's a parent's job to see that doesn't happen.
Also, given that there was only one DS what was the excuse for the other three children's unmade beds etc?
Right I'm done now.
Gift.
Honestly, I mean kids are easy - they're smart enough to connect bad behaviour with the repercussions that follow, but ONLY if repercussions DO follow. Clearly this woman hasn't figured out the basics of childcare.
If junior is playing and you want him to do something, nightwng2000's steps. The only thing I would do differently from nightwng, is step #3.
I would say "Find a point to save your game, your done until (insert task/activity). If you get done to my satification, you can play until bedtime."
...
I'm serious.
...
Nintendogs. It makes me punch babies.
If this woman did the same, or something like it, this would have ended better
And what's wrong with this woman that she can't take the DS away from her kids and make them go to bed, practice their music, or eat breakfast? If I'd tried something like that as a kid my mom would have taken the thing away and not not given it back for a week. I knew she was serious so I listened and didn't get punished.
Honestly woman, get a brain. Your children are not perfect angels. They're underdeveloped, self-serving humans who aren't psychologically mature enough to have a sense of morality. Give them a few years and they'll be able to police themselves, but until then you need to be the responsible parent who keeps them in line. Your kids need structure and rules to develop correctly; you don't do them any favors by letting them run amok.
I'm an only child and even I know you can't buy just one of something for 4 kids.
Her first solution to the problem is to hide it?
Her daughter can't sit still long enough to get a hair cut without playing the game?
It was a week before she noticed her kid wasn't practicing her instrument?
She gives it away without telling the kids first?
Is she trying to paint Nintendo as bad or herself?
It's the Daily Mail. Implausible though it seems, this article is deadly serious.
It's like the print equivalent of Fox News.
Except more right-wing.
Really.
(It shouldn't be, it was no offensive language or anything in it.)
SHENANIGANS!
Either that or just really, REEEEALLY poor parenting skills...
So it looked like a drug to you, and you bought it for them...
More likely trying to shift blame so they look worse.
your lack of parenting did.
*breathe in*
Im all better now, thanks.
She's a lousy parent who has raised bratty kids.
And then she bought four bratty kids a single DS and expect things to be peachy keen?
She needs to get off her soap box and go learn to raise children.
Seriously, she should set some rules and not allow them to play so much if they play the whole day. (Which, I do, but I'm more mature, take breaks, and don't act like a spoiled brat when I have to quit.)
She really needs to get her act together as a parent and learn that SHE needs to be the parent, not the DS.
Also, 20 games? that sounds like piracy to me.
@Nightwing2000
Great list, try posting that on her site.
FLAWLESS VICTORY
And 20 games huh? Sounds like one of those pirate 20-in-1 carts. If it's as reliable as the pirate GBA game I got conned into buying on Ebay, it probably erases all their saves every day or two, which would probably cause problems too.
And kids easily blame each other for that too
my parents used to alot us time on the Atari/NES/Comp when i was young.
i played anything ranging from Barn Stormer to Duke 3D, and the only reason i was a "little demon" is because i didn't agree with the way my school tought mindless gibberish (i could answer a math question using 5 dif methods, but if i didn't use the EXACT one they taught us that day i would fail)
when our time was up, or my parents just got tired of the noise they turned the console off and kicked us out of the house till night.
so umm.. i AM first hand proof proper parenting will prevent a console from driving kids into a pit of madness.
of me and my siblings i'm the only one who still plays a lot of games at all to boot.
my bros a mechanic, i'm Ex-Military gone construction, and my sisters a fat slob who does nothing but eat, cheat the system and take online college courses while leeching off my parents at age 27.
but not one of us is committing to illegal acts of anything let alone violence, and my bro has a mental instability that puts him in the labeling of a "hot headed asshole"
I'd like to hope that this is a bit of snark and not entirely serious, because if it's not and is meant to be completely serious, it would rank up at the top of the list with the most ignorant ramblings of a person who has no grasp on parenting in the digital age and who chooses instead to pass blame on her failings off on things she doesn't fully understand.
Take responsibility as a parent for christ-sakes.
OH WAIT!!! Having kids and being a single mother was HER DECISION just as raising little devil children with no rules or boundaries!
Will wonders never cease? I do believe Nintendo has absolutely nothing to do with this.
That's right! Playing the Phantom Hourglass can teach you to kill people with swords,and Super Mario World can teach you to jump on peoples heads to kill them.What we really need to worry about is the new Guitar Hero game for the DS coming out,cause it will teach kids that its acceptable to have Nirvana and Rick Springfield on the same play list.
a typical headline:
gang violence + video games + immigration concerns + falling house prices = END OF BRITAIN! oh yeah and diana was murdered by the british secret service btw... ok maybe that was slightly exaggerated but you get my point.
jeez... if ur kids are fucking you about... take the damn system away! They'll soon shut up after that.
My weak theory is that posters with IPs/Proxies showing outside the UK aren't being posted. But that falls apart seeing as there is still zero comments and I doubt there were no UK posters.
Still it's a theory.
Nightwng2000
NW2K Software
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/dealing-with-debt/article.html?in_article_i...
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/dealing-with-debt/article.html?in_article_i...
And has someone pointed out in the comments section here, http://www.mcvuk.com/news/30482/Daily-Mail-takes-another-potshot-at-game...
Re: Read more about this woman”
Posted by: scottmpamp - May 7, 12:54pm
This idiot is a feelance writer right ?
Could this article therefore not be in response to the advertisement that was discovered offering cash for stories of how video games have turned people to violence etc (ie in this case her kids).
Daily Mail.
See, it is a joke.
One DS for four kids is obviously a bad idea, and she plainly has no clue about how involving games are. She sees them 'playing on a toy' for 8 hours, while the kids see themselves as moving up the ranks of a football league, playing with their puppies and earning them fun toys, or decorating their houses. It's a childs imagination made real, of course they're going to enjoy it!
They're not going to use it as a tool, like the way you treat parenting.
granted, they were only playing Mario Kart and they do get into argument sometimes (who and which car's faster, how to tackle the race, etc) but.. goodness sake! i've never seen anything like what her kids are doing.. or so she claims...and this is like.. what? 5-7 kids.. sometimes even more!
when i was a kid, me, my siblings and someone my cousins take turns playing on the ol' gameboy... and if we argue or try to hog the unit.. mom comes in and no one gets to play!
It doesn't mean the DS turned her kids into monsters, it means she's a bad parent because think of the hundreds of thousands of children that have DSs that don't resemble her kids in any way, shape or form!
Not only that, LOL - The Daily Mail. What a respectable paper that is, give me the Guardian or the Independent or something smart, PLEASE.
"Having a Nintendo to hand is also jolly useful when you are on a train with a child and want to read a book, write a letter or call the office."
whatever happened to playing a travel game, playing eye spy, feeding your kids brain with things that u can see out the window instead of wanting to ignore them and read a book.
This woman is a selfish mother, first she says
"The Nintendo had to go, and to hell with my children 'fitting in'."
then saying
"But how to get rid of it? I mused on the idea of giving it to my sister, a mother-of-five, but rejected that on the grounds of child cruelty."
how can this woman attempt to think about child cruelty to her sisters kids when she blatantly thinks 'TO HELL with her children fitting in'???
fitting in is one of the most important things in a childs life, the ones that dont lose out on some of the best moments of their life, and this womans willing to do this just so her kids can blow a trumpet rather than forking out another £450 for 3 more....
i wonder how much said instruments were???
she's a mess, her kids are neglected and i wish her kids learn from elsewhere rather than creating more vile humans like herself.
Four kids under the age of 12 and one thing that they all like?
Can't end well, can it?
'Our habitual regime of a ten-minute morning music practice had been abandoned.'
I think I've found her problem, she's trying to rise her children in the 1920's
she sounds like an irresponsible spoilt brat getting herself into all that debt with 4 kids to raise, no wonder her kids explode with excitement and frustration when they finally recieve a gift that they must share between 4 of them. I think if she actually spends time bonding with her kids rather than shopping and writing pathetic articles like this the kids might actually learn a bit of respect rather than being pathetic and monsterous, just like herself...
a kids problems start at home, if a parent cant realise this they dont deserve the right to be a parent.. call the social services, making money off articles about her own bad parenting and passing the blame for her kids obvious need for attention. pathetic woman
oooooo i wonder how long that will last :P
You Ma’am are a fool. After reading your article about how your children became little devils because of a video game I have to say how moronic you sound. Children are of course by nature irrational and will fight over things that seem puzzleing to adults but to think they would not fight over a long sought after toy is just stupid. Be a better parent and if you are going to buy one toy do some research into something that can be easily shared or monitored to regulate time between children. Or better yet buy DSs so they can each play desired games.
Just another parent trying to blame thier “little angels,” problems and small quarrels on a brand label. It makes me sad and sick to see this kind of blame game parenting in todays society. Siblings fight, its what they do. When an object of desire is introduced into an enviornment and one child can only use it at a time it creates jealousy and annoyance. There are several steps you could have taken to avoid this and while maybe getting rid of the system was a step in the right direction until they are reasonable enough to handle it, saying that it was the reason your kids were bad is the most retarded thing I have ever heard.
Alas - perfection RIPPED from their little souls all on account of video gaming.... how sad is that?
I SO respect parents I know - that are assured their children are perfect.
"In order to stop the number of my children going to FIVE, I recently acquired a Border Terrier "
does the dog scare men away or does it perform abortions?
LOL
Seriously. That has got to be some of the funniest shit I have ever read.
That sentence by her all by itself begs the question whether she would hop right into bed with any man she meets... Hmm.
*insert facepalm here*
It's stupid crap like this that questions whether or not the human race really is intelligent.
If we're not intelligent then we are at least a source of entertainment and humor to those races who actually ARE intelligent.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9UGY7xOFuv8
rotfl !!
Before buying the DS, the apparently-single mother had the kids so well-disciplined that they all woke up, made their beds, ate breakfast, walked the dog, and carried out a ten-minute family music practice every morning, usually finishing all of this by 8am. They never fought and always got together in perfect harmony, and during their leisure time the children do things like read and cook. The family appears to have a computer, but the kids don't use it, nor is any mention made of watching television. It's a parent's ideal household, as a high-class idiot with no conception of what children tend to be like might dream up, and laughably impossible.
Overall, I'd say the article is clever satire focusing on a variety of issues; on one side, parents' tendency to let electronics parent their children for them to some extent, and on the other side, parents' tendency to blame electronics for their childrens' misbehavior without bothering to address the problems.
Oh God...
'Nintendo turns my delightful, curious and funny children into argumentative demons full of aggression'
From what I read, I can understand it! These are children not even in their teens and they're having music forced on them every bloody day! So they get ONE nice (most likely illegal) toy between FOUR of them and they all want a go on it... All I can say is forget 'Mother of the Year' lady, you don't even know how to be a mother. When I got my Gamboy Colour I was so happy, I'm now 15 and expecting all C-A GCSEs and my life is very games orintated, hell, I'm wearing a Nintendo 'Know Your Mushrooms' shirt as I type. All I see is a scapegoat and an unfit mother. Plus I hope charges are brought against her for having a modded Console/Cart.
Of course your kids are going to act like.... kids when you give them one toy for all of them to play with.
What an idiot.
I can almost guarantee that there is no tv with access to non-religious channels in this house and the computer is limited to adults only.
I have seen the same reactions from kids with at least one sibling when it comes to watching cartoons and to using a computer.
Just go to a playground. How many kids do you see crying because they want to ride the swing but they are all occupied by another kid?
The article should be labeled "Smothered Children: why it's bad and an idiot mother who does it."
I seriously wish common sense was an item you could buy and have surgically implanted because I would be running fund raisers left and right.
congrats, your officially retarded
I love how this lady likes to blame her poor parenting skills on a mere toy she could simply take away from the kids.
lol, if you do that, we still won't do anything. we are already into it so its hard to stop. WE ARE NOT AGGRESIVE. ADULTS FIGHT OVER SILLY THINGS TOO. FOR EXAMPLE: You skipped me. *everyone starts yelling* Just get over something as silly as that! Or You messed my shirt with your puke, I'm gonna sue you or something. Isn't that the same for YOU ADULTS.