Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC Murder Trial

Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC Murder Trial

May 16, 2008

The attorney for a 22-year-old man convicted this week of a vicious double murder says that anti-game activist Jack Thompson is off base in his claim that a "video game defense" spared James Stitt from the death penalty.

As GamePolitics reported on Wednesday, Dr. Moira Artigues, a defense psychiatrist, told the jury that Stitt claimed to have played Grand Theft Auto from midnight to 4 a.m. before killing two housemates in their bed. However, Artigues did not suggest a connection between the game and the killings. She also indicated she was not sure that Stitt was even being truthful, since his GTA claim conflicted with earlier statements.

Following the publication of the GamePolitics story, Thompson, who is involved in a pair of wrongful death suits against GTA publisher Take Two Interactive, issued a press release which read, in part:

Part of Stitt’s defense was his obsessive play of the Grand Theft Auto video games... It was put before the jury in a very clever fashion, and it worked... Thompson was right [in previous claims that GTA caused violence] and the sentence in North Carolina proves it.  Increasingly, the criminal defense bar will be using the “video game defense” because of the video game industry’s aggressive and illicit marketing of adult games to minors.

This morning's Fayetteville Observer, however, reports that Stitt's defense attorney has disavowed any such video game defense strategy. Indeed, it was never even raised in closing argument to the jury:

“There was no ‘video game defense,’” defense lawyer Jim Parish said in an interview after Thompson issued the news release. Their effort to save Stitt from the death sentence focused on the upheaval and trauma that shaped Stitt’s life from childhood, he said. He wouldn’t comment further about Thompson.

GP: We've requested a comment from Thompson, but have not received one so far...

Comments

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
Gotta love it when the guy who was ACTUALLY THERE refutes all of Jack's bullshit.  I'm sure Jack will continue to claim the "video game defense" works, though.  He's never let little things like facts get in the way before.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
That's inability is what makes delusion individuals delusional.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M

More proof that JT's worst enemy is JT.

But can we expect anything less form him? If he took the time to check facts instead of lying (most unchristianly), he wouldn't be on this rampage to begin with. he'd be doing something that Jesus might approve of such as helping the homeless and fighting against child abuse.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
I like to see that report that says Thompson's video game defence worked.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
  The only way you'll see that is if Jack writes it himself... which he probably will.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
Jack Thompson is the lord and master of Truthiness.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
I believe Jackie-boy is actually the head of the Ministry of Truth, iirc.
PWNED JACK!

Awww, look at that, all jack thompsons unfounded BS just got rejected. Bet that stings just a little Eh jacky boy?

Pardon me while I laugh at you and your failed crusade.


HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!HA!

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M

BURN! 


JohnnyD Proud Canadian

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M

Ok, didn't mean to post three times.  For some reason, the page that is shown to me after the post is blank...  Tried refreshing and got the 'POST DATA' popup...  Sorry! 



JohnnyD Proud Canadian

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense"
I'll bet Jack will be reading through this at some point today. As such, I'd like to take the opportunity to offer him a role in a documentary in which he meets up with Keith Vaz for a good old chit chat - I'll call it "Cross-Atlantic Reactionism: The Meeting".
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense"

Sorry to throw a wrench in your plans Haggard, but you'll need to change-up your plans a little.  A few weeks ago, the US (represented by me) and UK (represented by another GP user) entered into negotiations to trade Thompson for Vaz.  All parties agreed to the terms, and we are awaiting the final paper work.


You'll have to make the proper arrangements due to this arrangement =)
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense"

ill handle the shipping for both parties =p

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
The notion that a jury decision has scientific validity is just ridiculous.  It appears Jack is even more ignorant of science than he is of lawyering.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
Mmm... So nice to see the actual lawyer say JT is wrong publically. Wonder if JT's going to try some sort of defamation and collusion lawsuit against this guy now since it's "obvious he's an industry shill trying to discredit JT."
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
Haha Jack fails again at spreading his lies.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
He hasn't let little the little things bog him down before, I don't see any reason to believe he'd start. Although I do find it creepy and a little weird that he talks about himself in the third person in his press releases.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
When Jack Thompson talks in third person, I have a hard time figuring out if it's a quote from Jack Thompson or someone else.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
That is probably the entire point of doing it.  He is sock-puppeting with plausible denile.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
I was hoping someone else would mention that, I was scrolling down and starting to wonder if I was the only one who noticed it.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M

this teminds me of that law & order episode with that JT look-a-like



also: yay


-The Bird
John Bruce and "games are worse than abuse" implied claims

"Their effort to save Stitt from the death sentence focused on the upheaval and trauma that shaped Stitt’s life from childhood, he said."

In other words, John Bruce is repeating his Cody Posey claims.  Basically, he is saying that abuse of any type or other prior negative life experiences are more acceptable than playing a violent video game.

That makes him one sick, obscene, perverse little man.  And if he does this in the name of his religion, then his religion is sick, obscene, and perverse as well.

nightwng2000

NW2K Software

Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Re: John Bruce and "games are worse than abuse" implied claims

He's not THAT short is he? Oh or are you referring to HIS little man? It might explain the whole overcompensating thing.

His religion is sick, obscene & perverse, the religion in question is the Church Of Thompson where he is senile pope, vengeful god & the entire brainwashed congregation.

 

@Haggard

As such, I'd like to take the opportunity to offer him a role in a documentary in which he meets up with Keith Vaz for a good old chit chat - I'll call it "Cross-Atlantic Reactionism: The Meeting".

Dude, make them fight to the death for the right to be the true voice of ignorance. It'd be like Highlander only with lying morons! There can be only one..

Re: John Bruce and "games are worse than abuse" implied claims

That's still one too many.

Re: John Bruce and "games are worse than abuse" implied claims

I think GlaDOS put it best:

"If at first you don't succeed, you fail."

(Y'know since he literally wrote the book on failing...)


Quelle Surprise

If Jack said the sky was blue I'd look up to make sure it hadn't changed.


Re: Quelle Surprise
L.M.F.A.O. =P
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
'News' Headline: "Jack-Jack Makes Stuff Up" 'News' Headline: "Sun Rises"
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense"
It seems that Jack has been in that little world of his so long he forgot what the word truth means.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M

Why do I get the feeling that Jack is just Googling "GTA" in an attempt to find information like this. I'm pretty sure he's just got a book of fill in the blanks news releases, filling in the appropriate information whenever a new cop killing or school shooting happens.

~You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
doublepost, sorry
Criminals will be using the "video games defense".
And here is exactly what I fear will happen. Criminals will use the "video games defense" not because it has any truth to it but because Jack Thompson, Glen Beck, the general media and the general populace will think that there is truth to it. Incompetent attorneys and irresponsible media will have said "video games are murder simulators" so many times that killers will use video games as a mean to avoid more severe punishement for their acts.
Re: Criminals will be using the "video games defense".
The thing is, even with curent public perception, real defense lawyers are all quite aware at how poorly the 'twinky defense' actually works.  So chances are we will usually either see it as 'one more bit of information' (like in this case) or utterly desperate uses that fail.
He was wrong O_O

Who would have thunk it. John Bruce was wrong.

E. Zachary Knight
www.editorialgames.com

Thompson, seriously...
Come on Thompson, it's called research you moron. Do some of it before annoying media outlets and bloggers. If you can't do something as basic as that it's no wonder you epicly fail at being a lawyer. Don't you have something better to do with your time? Like use your kid in some other "sting operation"? Maybe for your next one you should set them up as bait for some pedophile. I feel sorry for your kid, having to grow up with you as a father. Who I'm sure has been brainwashed to believe you're always right
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M

The attorney for a 22-year-old man... (From this article)

because of the video game industry’s aggressive and illicit marketing of adult games to minors. (From JT's press release)

A 22-year-old convicted killer claims that he played Grand Theft Auto just before murdering two housemates in 2005. (From original GP article)

Let's play "Find the problem with JT's statement"

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
I tried that game but my system crashed from being overloaded with targets. Buggy and boring to the point of being a non-game. It's no "Faxmachinehunt".
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M

Ohhh! I know, I know! The convict's age makes him irrelevant to the sale of adult games to minors! Thompson only links video games to criminals that are around college age or younger, since he can't see 30 year-olds playing GTA games.

Now, do I win a trip to Europe?

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
No, but how about a lovely trip to Liberty City *AS* a european immigrant?
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense"

JT lies again.  What a suprise.

In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet.

Hmm
I wonder if Mr. Woolverton will have to deal with Mr. Thompson now. I'm glad though the Observer cleared up the GTA link for certain but I know it's not going to stop Jack.
Of Course

You numbskulls are clueless.

Its obvious to anyone with half a brain that the ESA Evildoers have gotten to both the Observer and the attorney in a vast conspiracy to cover up the actual defense they used. 



Re: Of Course
sarcasm much? :D
Re: Despite Jack Thompsons Claim

ROFL.  Wow the world is shown that jackie thompson is a clueless busybody, and does not show the least bit of surprise. 

An earlier post give me an idea though.  When jackie loses his licence to practice law he will need to pass the time so I submit that we write a video game for him called "Faxmachinehunt".  None are better at killing fax machines than jackie.

 
There's only one group that should make Faxmachinehunt
Rockstar should do it just for the hilarity of the irony it would be for them to make a game for Thompson.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M

Ha! Jack's claims are once again proved to be wrong.

(imitating the Darkness' voice): Nice try, Jackie.


But it isn't the first time that happens. But if he tries to harrass the police or the family for some "proofs", the disbarrment deadline will be (Darkness' voice again) soon...

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
Really, who didn't see this coming?
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M

Kinda clever on jacks part actualy..


You see if he lies to as many people as he can, its likely there will be ones who take it s face value. Mainly because they have never read the rebuttals that are the truth... Or perhapps don't know his reputation of petty, narrsistic, opinionated and foolish massacre chasing rhetoric.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
Speaking of narcisistic, I dont think I was BEFORE jack thompson.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M

"GP: We've requested a comment from Thompson, but have not received one so far..."

You're not going to get one.  Thompson is a coward.


Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
He's also what I call a "front-end only loader." He'll quickly dispatch a "press release" when he files a lawsuit (i.e., the front-end) but you won't hear a peep outta him when his lawsuit gets thrown out of court (i.e., the "back-end").
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M

"You're not going to get one.  Thompson is a coward."


Either that or a bunch of child-like insults. Probably the usual "You're not a real journalist" "You're not reporting everything" "You're an industry stooge". Then he'll wrap it up by plugging his 60 minutes apperance and his toilet pap...err...I mean book



Add this one to the woodpile!

We have YET ANOTHER little lie to add to JT's woodpile.  For a man who claims to not be a liar, UNDER OATH no less, he sure has quite a few:

- The Sims contained detailed genetallia

- He would dipose the president in his bar trial

- Bully contained Homosexual sex, blood, and killing.

- The Louisiana law was constitutionally sound

- He has a client who has ties to Take Two's business practices

- He was approached by a family claiming him to be "the only lawyer in America" who could help them.

- Bully would result in countless slingshot injuries nationwide

- Youth crime has been increasing since videogames became popular

- He is working with law enforcement to have R* and TT employees indicted for selling porn to minors.

- Janet Reno assaulted him

- He is the most successful opponent of videogames in America

- His wife has cancer...but only when it can garner him sympathy (I don't believe it for a second).

- Controller rumble intentionally was put in GTA to create a pleasurable feedback to reward and encourage real-life murder.

- Gamerdad is actively trying to put M-rated games in the hands of minors (see news post when Gamerdad had his heart problems and read JT's comments).

The list goes on...

Re: Add this one to the woodpile!

This just goes to show you:

The more religious you say you are, the less you really are.

Re: Add this one to the woodpile!

i think this is where James 1:26 comes in....


If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless.


oooh! let's play the "who is this verse refering to" game!
Re: Add this one to the woodpile!

Personally I prefer the king james version:

If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

 

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: Add this one to the woodpile!
What we need is a gameshow where you buzz in whenever Thompson tells a lie (and mutes his mic). If you can prove he's lying you get $100, if not then you lose $100. It will be a hit, I swear!
Re: Add this one to the woodpile!
Never get passed the producers.  The odds for a gameshow like this need to be in their favor - not the contestants.  
Re: Add this one to the woodpile!

Hmmm... 

- He is the most successful opponent of videogames in America

I actually don't think that is a lie... Yet.  Hehehe!  No one really has been successful opposing video games thus far.  Not to mention it depends on how you define success.  I know he defines it as how much face time he gets on television.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M

GP: We've requested a comment from Thompson, but have not received one so far...


You actually believe he WILL comment?

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
He comments all the time, he LOVES it, seriously, it makes his day.
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC M
True. But he much prefers to comment at the front-end (prior to his invariable discrediting) rather than at the back-end (once he's been proved to be completely without credibility).
Jack Thompson Jack Thompson Jack Thompson
Re: Jack Thompson Jack Thompson Jack Thompson
Umm...what the hell?
Re: Jack Thompson Jack Thompson Jack Thompson

As in, you don't quiet get it, either? Or am I, as I had though, gettin' passed by time?

Re: Jack Thompson Jack Thompson Jack Thompson

copied from the webcomic newspost:

Everyone is talking about Jack Thompson these days. Especially after he tried to arrest Gabe and Tycho, who I know are really charming people if you talk to them for a bit. Or how he had that argument with Scott from VG Cats, who is also a sweet man. Yes! This guy is batshit insane. But it's everywhere. You can't go to a website without reading it. It's kind of madness. My cousin is fed up and I said, "Hur hur. Wouldn't it be funny if I did..." And I explained a comic idea, and he basically told me to "DO IT!!!" So it was made. My interpretation of what's going on with Jack Thompson. We get it. He's insane in the membrane. We know. We hear you. Enough. Stop please.

Unless we learn about his downfall, then that might be rather interesting!!

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC
I\'ll comment for myself thanks, without having Dennis McCauley edit it. There was a video game defense as to the sentence imposed, obviously. That\'s why the psychiatrist brought up his playing of the game right up to the point of the murders. Such evidence, along with brain scans of the defendants, will eventually become a defense in such cases. And this will happen fairly quickly, in light of the US Supreme Court\'s ruling in Roper v. Simmons endorsing the use of brain scans to diminish guilt and also punishment by younger defendants. Glad I could help you gamers understand such a complex subject. Jack Thompson
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

What's with the backslashes before every apostrophe?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

He's posting through a proxy. He has not the guts to post directly. ;)

E. Zachary Knight
www.editorialgames.com

 

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

Don´t cry, Jack, don´t cry...

 

The Lost Level

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC
A video game defense was indeed utilized not as to guilt but as to punishment. That is precisely why the psychiatrist brought up his obsessive play right before the twin murders. You will increasingly see this kind of a defense in such cases, along with brain scans submitted, since the US Supreme Court endorsed this approach in Roper v. Simmonds, decided in March 2005. Glad I could clear this up for you hopelessly confused gamers. Jack Thompson
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

Wow, Jack.  Even when you have been proven a liar AGAIN, you still pretend to be right.  It must me nice to think you're perfect.

Do you have any idea the kind of laughs we will have in our old age when we reminisce about your antics?  Guess what?  We will be doing this while playing our copies of GTA8. 

Oh, and how about that gay marriage in CA?  Hooah!

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

Well, given his preference in 'adult entertainment', I'm sure he's elated.... Don't tell his wife, though. :P

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

By the way Jack..

How is your push to get Mortal Kombat Armageddon pulled from shelves for having your likeness coming along? 

How soon can we expect to hear about your Take Two "client"?

Have you had Halo 3 banned from its October 25 release date?

When will heads roll over the Bioshock commercial during Smackdown?

When will you finish getting Penny Arcade, Kotaku, & Gamepolitics be shut down?

How soon before we can see the Florida Bar resembling a bombed out building...figuratively speeking?

Has the FBI arrested Judge Tunis yet?

How big of a check will EA write you for helping them buy Take Two?

When will you go after the Credit Card Industry for issuing cards to minors?

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

Don't forget his 'assurance' that he'd depose the President of the United States.

@ JT

Mr. Thompson, the man is 22 years old. The issue of lenience for an ADULT playing an ADULT video game is moot.

Are you seriously saying we should be more lenient on the man because he played a video game rather than being lenient because he was molested at the age of nine?

Oh yeah, video games, they're MUCH worse on the mind than childhood sexual trauma! GTA IS POLIO!

You sicken me. Good day.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

All I see here are the confused ramblings of a soon-to-be disbarred lawyer. Hope your job search is going well, Jackhole!

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

Jack:

Only you would be dumb enough to bother raising "video game" defenses after your client had already been convicted of the crime for which they are about to be sentenced. All the sane lawyers that I would have realized that the time for raising defenses of any sort had come and gone. Now, the not so sane attorneys that I know may be inclined to raise "video games" as a mitigating factor to be considered prior to the jury's or the court's rendering of sentence. But, even as to use as a mitigating factor, the sane lawyers that I know wouldn't waste their time. 

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

Jack:

Do you now understand the not at all complex but, rather, simple difference between the legal terms "defense" and "mitigating factor?" The first tends to absolve guilt. The second tends to reduce sentence.

Define sometihng for me

Jack

Please define this term you keep using "Brain scans". Are we taking about a CT, MRI, X-ray, Gamma Ray, flighlight in the ear, or some scientology device that measures Body Thetons. Since this isn't the 23rd century and tricorders don't exist, then what you define as a 'brain scan' sounds a whole lot like bogus medicine. Of course if you could just provide a viable link to these said studies, which any repudable medical group would have, then we can decide for ourselves how viable this 'study' is.

Of course, it was just you putting a collander over the person's head with wires attached to a computer playing Doom 3, then that doesn't cut it.

Re: Define sometihng for me

GryphonOsiris:

I've probably read every written attempt to clown Mr. Thompson ever made -- from the infantile to the highly sophisicated. Your's above ranks, in my estimation, in the top 5%.

Re: Define sometihng for me

Top 5% of infantile or sophisticated? Or both,.

Re: No "Video Game Defense" in NC, Jacky Boy

Jack Thompson must have failed reading comprehension in school, in my humble opinion.

The so-called "video game defense", which is no different than the bogus "wrestling defense" that one of Jack's fellow ambulance/hearse chasing attornies Jim Lewis tried to get Lionel Tate out of a mandatory life sentence for brutally murdering a 6-year-old girl half his size(and turned out to be a lie, since it came out that Tate watched The Flintstones at the time of the murder), failed, Jack.

For the defense to succeed, Jack, the jury had to find him not guilty. Besides that, the attorney for the idiot in NC admitted that were was no "video game defense" for the trial(the sentencing phase is part of the trial).

Jack, here's an analogy: You're celebrating a field goal with 5 seconds left in a game that you were trailing 73 to nothing.

Practice what you preach: Grow up and get a life.

Where are your taunts and

Where are your taunts and bluster now, Jack?  This is what happens when you make a career out of running off at the mouth without getting your facts straight.  You're like a millipede, because you never seem to run out of feet to put in your mouth.  Go crawl back into whatever pit you were spawned in, C.U.N.T.F.L.A.P.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC

Wow, he went beyond his normal exagerated claims of minor victories, he actually went so far as to make up a nonexistent victory. That takes some commitment. Also, a very low IQ and a very high concentration of drugs in his blood system.

Edit: I kind of misspoke there a bit, because he does make up victories all the time, but he actaully coined a term for his nonexistent victory.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC
Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

It was a survey of 2000 respondants. Not exactly damning evidence and far from "proof". Additionally it doesn't really relate to this article.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

Children also believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy. Please try again.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

this is rather silly. I will not refute his previous statement since it was so eloquently dispelled by the previous poster. I will, however, give information that might be of interest that I've learned as a student of psychology who is awfully close to his masters degree...

The only real conclusive study on violence and its effect on behavior did not include video games at all. It was a longitudinal/cross sectional study done by a researcher that I honestly can not remember the name of right now. If you wish you may do a bit of research through psych info, google, apa, and other "databases" and search engines.

They found there was a statistically significant (read: TINY effect size for a LARGE sample) correlation between violent behavior and media violence observed... in THREE year olds! There was NO statistically significant correlation between amount of violent media watched and violence for children past the age of three.

In summation, violent media does have an effect during a time period in which parents have more than the capability to shield their children from such violence. I have YET to come accross a three year old playing grand theft auto... not even in a single case study.

18 year olds, hell even 12 year olds who are violent do NOT seek out violent media, and those who do seek out violent media are NOT more likely to engage in violent behavior than their peers.

I would bother to look up what exact study this came from, but I doubt it would matter because I'm not even sure JT knows what a sample size is or what a statistically significant result means.

 

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

Thompson, you meathead.  Do you even read the articles you post?  Nowhere in the article does it say that kids believe video game violence = violent behavior, except for the obviously sensationalistic headline.  It says that they believe video games have more of an impact on behavior than movies and TV.  That could mean any number of things, but of course you choose to interpret it according to Jack Thompson's Book of What I Think Is Right.  The rest of the freakin' article is about the parents and their attitudes on how they raise their kids,  which is something you'd do well to focus on instead of trying to tell other people how to raise theirs.

Do the planet a favor and piss off.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

 Do you even have a basic understanding of how a debate works? i mean , seriously jack, when the best evidence that you can find to support your possition is a survey from a forgien country of 12 - 15 year olds, you may want to reconsider your position. What about those ''brain scans '' jack? Do they even exist? Where's the link to them? Not that you'll respond to this, as you are infamous for just dropping in random comments and running away.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

Fail. If you even read the article you might have noticed that it said "had more of an impact on behaviour" not that it actually caused them to become homicidal psychopaths. After that first paragraph it went into how parents should check what their kids do not washed up attorneys from Miami. And for any study you can find that  supports your argument I can find one that refutes it.

So don't try and take the attention away from your blatant attack on the truth of what happened in that trial with some little article barely supporting your argument. This type of tactic hasn't helped you in the past, and it sure as hell isn't going to work now.

And you may remember me from a few days ago when I emailed you asking for your opinions, you know, the "mind-numbed gamer." My failed attempt at carrying on a civil conversation with you was a mistake I won't make again.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

Could you possibly, i don't know, site something that was done in the past six months, not EIGHT YEARS AGO?

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

Since Jacko doesn't seem to know how to do diligent research and find the actual study rather than simply link to a summary of a summary of it, I'll do junior's research for him.  Here is the actual study in question:  http://www.ofcom.org.uk/advice/media_literacy/medlitpub/medlitpubrss/ml_...

Here is the pertinent section on videogames:

 

 

Children share public concern about violent games

Children’s views on gaming are particularly interesting. Around two-thirds of older children agree that violence in games affects people’s behaviour outside the game and that violence in games has more impact on people’s behaviour than violence in television or films. There are high levels of agreement for having settings on consoles which can restrict game playing based on age ratings.

Although research to date has failed to prove conclusively a link between violent games and violent behaviour in children, children themselves clearly share the wider public concern around this issue. A possible factor in this is the high ongoing level of media coverage of violent crimes in which game playing is alleged to have been a factor.

 

 

So what this says is that children thing ideogames are bad. It isn't surprising that they think that with all the biased television coverage of them and lying talking heads like Jacko appearing on television.  Then again children also beleive in the tooth fairy so I'm not sure if their beliefs should be held up as solid evidence.

For argument's sake let's take their belief seriously.  What does that say?  It means that children themselves think games are dangerous.  Doesn't that disprove Jacko's assertion that kids don't know the dangers of games?

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No \"Video Game Defense\" in NC

Holy fuck Jack.  You are REALLY scrapping the bottom of the barrel now aren't you?  Now the only thing you have left is the opinions of children?  Sad.  Your joke of a crusade is all but spent.

Huh...my text is really

Huh...my text is really small for some reason(in the input)... anywho, SUCK IT JACK!!!

 

-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC

I thought Jacko wasn't allowed to post on this site, Dennis. Or was his ban removed? Is so I'm dissapointed it was nice to not have to constantly see the ramblings of such a pathetic man on this site.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC

Maybe after the relaunch he was able to sneak in. After all, isn't GP running on different server now? If so than he wouldn't be banned (yet) and (unfortunately) would be more than able to spew his rhetoric.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC

You'll notice that Dennis' article states he's solicited comments from Jack and Jack states when he posts that he's not going to have Dennis edit his comments (which I assume is an oblique statement of not wanting to submit his comments via e-mail for subsequent re-posting (and, potentially, editing by GP). My bet is that GP let Jack in to post the comment(s) that they themselves requested of him.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC

Either way, Dennis needs to put a stop to it immediately. It doesn't do anybody good to have to see the childish antics of this man.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC

Jack still doesn't realize that he will never win in these kinds of cases. He needs to get a new line of work like checking himself back into the looney bin.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC

Jack Thompson, trying to override personal responsibility since the 1980s

-kurisu7885

HAHAHAHA! Jack is getting

HAHAHAHA! Jack is getting burned to bejeezus and back! How do you afford food when all you do is FAIL! LOSE! NOT WIN! DO THE OPPOSITE OF WINNING! You can't seem to NOT LOSE! MY EFFING GOD!

 

-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC

[sarcasm]I'm amazed that with all the people playing GTA, and Jack's claim that the lawyer who gets killed in it is him, that he's still living.  It has to be a miracle![/sarcasm]

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/97/60f8923f8da0c49ac7c6901bg1.jpg

Jack, feel free to photoshop your head over Charlie Brown's. 

Re: Despite Jack Thompson Claim, No "Video Game Defense" in NC

You know, I try to listen to all the pertinent points of view on a subject. But after a long night of comtemplation of, and review of, all the attempts by Mr. Jack Thompson. I have decided to offer him a full scholarship at S.T.F.U. Congratulations!

 

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

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