Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV Controversy

May 19, 2008 -

Texas A&M professor Christopher Ferguson pens an op-ed on the Grand Theft Auto IV controversy for the Eureka Reporter:

Violent video games do not cause violent behavior. There are no good data at all to suggest that they do.... as the consumption of violent video games in our society has skyrocketed, violent crimes, including those among youths, have plummeted... We can be sure that violent video games are not sparking a youth violence epidemic because there is no youth violence epidemic.

 

In my own research, I have found that family violence exposure as a child and the individual’s innate (probably genetic) personality are related to violent criminal behaviors, but that violent video game exposure is not...

 

we need to give the current generation of youths more credit. Today’s youths are healthier in most respects than any other group of youths since the 1960s. Today’s youths are less likely to engage in violent crime, use drugs or alcohol, get pregnant, commit suicide or drop out of school than were youths of previous generations.


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Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

The stats may be true but research of this kind is allways based on theories, call me a pessimist but for all we know the decline in violent youth crimes and pregnancies may work in unison with the rising of obesity.

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

Maybe so, but you're not denying that the game doesn't have anything to do with the issue.

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

Maybe we could get this guy to give the Keynote speech for E3. He is from Texas, after all...

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

He's probably like my former abnormal psychology teacher, you would have to show them some studies from the APA to change their views.

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

The story of Jack Thompson:

Mrs.Thompson: OH MY GOD, I CAN FEEL THE HEAD!

Mr.Thompson:PUSH BABY PUSH!

Mrs.JT:HOOOOAH!!!!!

Mr.JT:Oh. My. God...He's beautiful...except for those narly jowls. And the fact that he has no thumbs...

Mrs.JT:Oh it's fine, I'm sure there will never be any form of entertainment that requires thumbs.

GRADE SCHOOL

JT:Teacher, Dennis keeps peddling his mental molestation! And when I tell him to stop he keeps telling me about the paper I wipe my butt on, The Constitution!

Teacher:What the fuck are you talking about?

HIGH SCHOOL

Dennis: Hey Jack, I got this sweet video game, wanna play?

No....(stares at his thumbless hands)

Dennis:Well alright then...

COLLEGE

JT: Hey Dennis the douche, check out my new thumbs!

Dennis:Nice. Shall we test them on some fighting games?

JT:Yes...PREPARE FOR THE VIRTUAL BEATDOWN!!!!!!

3 SECONDS LATER

JT: HOW DO I KICK? THIS IS FUCKIN' BULLSHIT!

Dennis: Calm down dude, just a game.

JT: ARRRRGH! (UNPLUGS DENNIS' CONTROLLER)

Dennis: Yeah. Real nice.

JT: EAT IT! HOOAH!

Dennis: Wow, you suck at this.

JT:NO I DON'T! YOU TAKE THAT BACK! THAT'S IT! I'LL SPEND THE REST OF MY LIFE FUCKING WITH VIDEO GAMES AND THOSE WHO PLAY THEM FOR AS LONG AS I LIVE!!!!!(Dramatic thunder in the background)

-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

GUFFAW'd

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

Dude. Grizzam. Could you, kinda, like... NOT do that?

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

*facepalm*

 

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

Is that really Jack thats posting?  It doesn't sound like his regular banter. 

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

Unlikely. There was virtually no namecalling, and hardly any sensationalist words used in sentence construction. Either that's not JT, or he's been taking writing lessons (*gasp*).
 

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

It's him alright.

E. Zachary Knight
www.editorialgames.com

 

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

Yeah, not enough spelling errors and libel.

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

I go to Texas A&M and have attended a lecture or two by this professor, he does a lot of good work and certainly seems to know what he's talking about.  I just wish stuff like this would get more press.

WAIT A DANG MINNIT!!

But this....this....

This makes way too much sense....

What is this guy smoking?

Re: WAIT A DANG MINNIT!!

most likely something that doesn't kill his brain of any common sense

Where is JT now?

... most likely in a corner rocking backwards and forwards with his fingers in his ears muttering to himself.

-ConstantNeophyte: always the newb, ALWAYS.

-ConstantNeophyte: always the newb, ALWAYS.

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

"First, violent video games do not cause violent behavior. There are no good data at all to suggest that they do."

This guy is a psychologist and yet he cannot even parse two parts of a sentence correctly.  People in the media need to learn the rules of proper grammer. In addition, data comes under the singular 'is' as it encompasses a body of information, defined as a single whole.

 

Just saying.  He makes an interesting point in any case.

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

ACTUALLY, "data" is a plural noun referring to a collected body of information, and it's grammatically correct to use the phrase "data are". The singular form of data is "datum", which refers to a single piece of information from a collected body. In this case, the correct phrase is "datum is".

However, since the English language tends to change over the years from dialects and turns of phrase (which often spit in the face of proper grammar...), it is now also acceptable to use "data" as a singular noun, which is why "data is" has become so common.

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

Yeah, aren't it be hillarious!(joke)

 

-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

Jack Thompson´s press release in 3... 2... 1...

This is in spanish :lol http://thelostlevel.blogspot.com/

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

Moar ammo! DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA!

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

Dakka dakka dakka!

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

Sooo... what he is saying is... that jack Thompson's generation was far more violent, more likely to get pregnant and possibly more unhealthy than ours? interesting.... hmmmmm

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

heh!

score one for proper video game research and ACTUAL intelligence...

HOORAH!

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

Yes

---Oh sure, when a monkey does it, that's fine. But whenever I throw barrels at an Italian plumber, then its a hate crime! - Stephen Colbert

Re: Researcher Sees "Grand Theft Rationality" in GTA IV

More ammo.

 

-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...
 
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IronPatriotI googled appeal esrb.org and it is the first and third hits. Second is esrb talking about appeals for web publishers. Gamefaqs is fourth.05/29/2015 - 4:01am
IronPatriotZachary said he did not find any information about a formal appeals process. I did a simple search and found two places on the esrb site with the info. Just sayin.05/29/2015 - 3:57am
IronPatriotOn Google I get "1 Written Testimony of Patricia E. Vance President ... - ESRB" http://www.esrb.org/about/news/downloads/pvtestimony_6_14_06.pdf05/29/2015 - 3:55am
Andrew EisenNow, that post on GameFAQs was made four years ago. It appears the ESRB has since moved the appeals process stuff behind the publisher login on its website.05/29/2015 - 3:32am
Andrew EisenOh, third link on the Google search. Okay. That leads to a GameFAQs message board which quotes a section of the ESRB website that includes a description of the appeals process. But when you follow the link, that quote doesn't exist.05/29/2015 - 3:30am
Andrew EisenThird link down from what? Look, I'm not arguing the existance of an appeals process. There obviously is one. I was merely noting that it's odd that it isn't described on the website's ratings process section but it is on the mobile site.05/29/2015 - 3:25am
IronPatriotOK, so use the third link down, which describes the appeals process and is not on the mobile site"Publishers also have the ability to appeal an ESRB rating assignment to an Appeals Board, which is made up of publishers, retailers and other professionals."05/29/2015 - 2:47am
Andrew EisenRight, which links to the ESRB's mobile site. On the website (again, unless I'm overlooking it) the appeals process is locked behind the publisher login.05/29/2015 - 2:37am
IronPatriotHuh? Google "appeals esrb". It is the first link. Click it. No login requested.05/29/2015 - 2:31am
Andrew EisenInteresting. It's on the mobile site but unless I'm overlooking it, I don't see it under the Ratings Process on the web site. It is under the publishers section but you can't access it without a login.05/29/2015 - 2:13am
IronPatriot"Publishers also have the ability to appeal an ESRB rating assignment to an Appeals Board made up of publishers, retailers and other professionals. " Esrb05/29/2015 - 2:01am
IronPatriotZachary, did you look on the esrb site? The esrb appeals process pops up when you search "esrb appeals" http://m.esrb.org/faq_09.php05/29/2015 - 2:00am
Andrew EisenThe humor reminds me a lot of Axe Cop.05/29/2015 - 1:37am
WymorenceOh sweet god, Kung Fury is freaking awesome...05/28/2015 - 10:03pm
E. Zachary KnightWonder, I know you can revise content and resubmit it, but I can't findany information about a formal appeals process.05/28/2015 - 7:27pm
Wonderkarpever wonder if there's an appeals process for AO?05/28/2015 - 6:55pm
Matthew WilsonDanny and Andy play the first couple of levels of the upcoming Hatred http://www.gamespot.com/videos/hatred-gamespot-plays/2300-6425016/ imho it does not look like it should be AO.05/28/2015 - 5:57pm
Andrew EisenHey, remember Kung Fury? That short film that was funded via Kickstarter a few years ago? You can watch it now. I suggest you do. It's fun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5P_LAqiVg05/28/2015 - 5:14pm
Goth_SkunkOriginally, yes. Some content was cut out in order to reduce its ratign from AO down to M, but PC users could work around that an unlock the full content by means of a patch. Which is what I did. :D05/28/2015 - 3:56pm
Andrew EisenKarp - Yes, for strong sexual content. Although the recent remaster contains all that content and was rated M.05/28/2015 - 3:54pm
 

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