Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian Edition of GTA IV

May 28, 2008 -

PALGN reports that a comparison of the Australian and UK versions of Grand Theft Auto IV indicates that blood and animated sex scenes with prostitutes were removed from the game in order satisfy government censors. 

As GamePolitics has previously reported, the Australian Office of Film and Literature Classification threatened to ban GTA IV unless certain cuts were made. PALGN credits a reader known only as "Mick" with chronicling the edits:

According to Mick, when players pick up a prostitute in the Australian version, there is no way to select a 'service' from the prostitute. The sexual intercourse sex animation has also been completely removed, so players will only see the car bounce from a locked rear-view. In the uncut version, after selecting a service from the prostitute, players can rotate the camera to see the prostitute's actions.

Also in the Australian version, no blood pools will appear beneath a dead person after shooting or stabbing them to death. There are blood splatters, but no blood pools. In the uncut version, blood will slowly ooze out from under a body...
 

Via: IT Wire


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Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

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Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

This is seriously a joke... These big wigs can't even censor shit right anymore. You can still run into a hospital and blow yourself with a 'nade yet "no pools of blood", a kid hurting himself on a playground will probably see more blood than in GTA IV.

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

Hum, why have you referenced the IT Wire article when they referenced the PALGN article? Give PALGN the traffic they deserve. Sloppy journalism really.

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

It sounds to me like they cut and pasted the article about the cuts in GTAIV from refused-classification.com

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

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Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

Yeah the differences really are irrelevant, the biggest problem I had with the situation was not the altered version that rockstar submitted for classification but the fact that they kept COMPLETELY silent about the changes leading everyone to speculate wildly & assume the worst.

A mate & I both got the local version (Good price in BigW, just shy of 80 bucks rather than the 120 that some places were asking) but because there was the uncertainty, my mate imported an uncensored version from canada and until we checked out the hooker service (which was the only time I've used it in nearly 200 hours of gameplay), we never noticed the differences. I'd not noticed the pools of blood in the uncensored one until relatively recently and frankly they looked a bit tacky.

If rockstar had simply said "The hookers are like they were in San Andreas and we've toned down on the blood a bit" then I'd have been satisfied with that explanation.

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

I'm an Australian Gamer.  I don't care.

I've seen both versions side by side... there's little to no difference between them.  Frankly, the whole "service" thing is good for a laugh once and then you'll probably never use it again.

As for blood pools... personally I'm never in the same place in the game long enough to see them.

The only real reason to import would be to get it at a lower price (but that's a whole other issue and it's best not to get me started on that).

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

Well, as an Australian gamer, I feel SO much safer now!

*rolls eyes*

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

No blood pools? YOU'RE MISLEADING THE CHILDREN! THEY'LL THINK THAT VIOLENCE IS A CARTOONISH ACTION IN WHICH NO-ONE DIES!!!

 

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Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

I dream of a world where all violence is cartoonish, no one gets hurt except people who post moronic comments all in caps and who's sigs are longer than their actual posts.

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

It had more censored then I thought. 0_o

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

And so did a lot of people.  But that's media-beat and people jumping to conclusions for you.

It's not a huge deal and the changes are pretty much superficial.  However, we'd still benefit from an R18+ rating with parental locks put into the game.

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

As a NZ gamer the worst thing about this whole censored version is that its all the bloody Aussies fault we got the crap version, stupid gits...

Seriously though; neither of those things bothers me in the slightest, not next to some of the other things that I think are wrong with the game...

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Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

All they had to do to get it released was scale back the game to previous-generation benchmarks?  Big deal.  I think I went through the whole tedious "sex in a car" thing once, after finishing the Pimp side-mission in San Andreas so I could earn money back -- except then I think I only got twenty bucks or so, and I was already rolling a few mil after grinding out a few blackjack wins at Caligula's, so that was right out.  And I wouldn't notice the blood thing, either; Mario's been stomping turtles for years with no internal organs popping out of them, but you still know they're dead.

So if I were an Australian gamer, this wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me, although I'm a little annoyed that the changes were so minor.  It just seems to trivialize the whole censorship debate.  Why bother demanding alterations if the focal points of the game, the killing and the hooker-banging and the dangerous driving, are going to remain intact?

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Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

wow, this totally changes the game. The removal of these animations has resulted in GTA having nothing to standout from GTA clones now.

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

In a(n un)related story, crimes against hookers have been on the decline in recent months!

... right?

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Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

Wtg there Austraila.  Didn't Sony make GTA IV region coded though?   So people couldn't import the non-sucky version?  Or maybe I was thinking of something else.

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

So people couldn't import the non-sucky version?

I don't know how Aus's import laws work. In NZ, you can't get around ratings by importing your own copy, ratings apply to possession as well as sale.

I've heard that the NZ ratings board got ahold of both the cut and uncut version, and has rated the uncut version as 18. Can anyone confirm this?

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Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

Confirmed. Some guy in Auckland paid to have the uncut version registered, and is now selling them at discount.

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

www.firstgames.co.nz are the place selling it.

Still so much more expensive than ordering it from the US and having it shipped!

 

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

Wow, wtg thar NZ, thats pretty bad itself.  Ugh, honestly, forced government censorship sucks.  Yeah, way to not let the adults play what they want without censoring the game.

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

I thought the PS3 didn't have regional locks.

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Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

I could have sworn I'd seen blood pools on my copy.  I dunno, might have been exceptionally large blood spatters.  But anyway, it's okay to blast someone through their windscreen with a shotgun and have the blood splatter back onto the screen as they fall limp onto their steering wheel.... but pools of blood are right out?

Great.  Glad we got that moral conundrum cleared up.

Re: Report: Hooker, Blood Animations Removed from Australian

No doubt!

On that note maybe GTA V should include crucifixion just to make things interesting with the censors.  I'd be very curious to see if the same outcry was made to tone down the game and if the crucifixion was left in or taken out.

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Does the Aussie gov't hate their local retailers?

Seriously, from what i hear, this was the reason a lot of the continent's residents imported the GTA4 instead. Overpricing a game even as it's neutered - now that's robbery!

Re: Does the Aussie gov't hate their local retailers?

I'm Aussie, and yes - but it's not the retailers fault.

Well maybe their fault they charge $119.95 for it, but our out-dated Government need to get into gear on this one.

Actually Australia has been going through the process of revising it's rating system to stop this happening and permit R18+ games into the country

Story here

Re: Does the Aussie gov't hate their local retailers?

I have the same problem with diet food and vegetarian foods (like veggie burgers) here in the US.  Much better for you but costs so much more that it's more pleasing to buy the regular foods.

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