Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years; Thompson Storms Out of Hearing
Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years; Thompson Storms Out of Hearing
June 4, 2008
GamePolitics has learned that the Florida Bar has requested that controversial attorney Jack Thompson, 56, be disbarred for ten years for 27 violations of professional misconduct.
The request came today at a sanctions hearing before Judge Dava Tunis in Miami.
Thompson reportedly stormed out of the hearing after Tunis refused to let him read a lengthy objection aloud. Tunis, acting as referee on behalf of the Florida Supreme Court, did permit Thompson to submit a copy of his objection for the record.
Prior to that there was apparently some disagreement between Tunis and Thompson over the placement of the podium. We're told Thompson lost that argument as well.
By leaving the courtroom, Thompson missed the opportunity to argue any mitigating factors to the Bar's recommendation for harsh punishment.
A GamePolitics reader, Nevext , apparently was present today and posted impressions in comments to this morning's preview piece on the hearing. Here's Nevext's version of events:
I was able to tag along with an actual attorney, so we drove to the courthouse, went up to the courtroom, waited outside until 2pm. Baliff opened the door and I held it open. Sadly, I even held it open for the beast himself.
So the judge came in. Judge Tunis seems like a real nice lady.
Thompson wanted to make known that he had a objection in writing. He was able to submit it to the record, but the judge said he couldn't read it aloud. That really pissed him off, I think. He also passed around copies of the objection to various reporters and a member of the legal community known as "Mr. Mim". He also claimed that "Mr. Mim" was not supposed to be there. So he dropped the objection into his lap and went back to his side of the court. The judge was NOT pleased.
Eventually, he made comments about the judge not being a judge(This is relating to the Loyalty Oath stuff), said the hearing was moot, and WALKED OUT.
"The court acknowledges that Mr. Thompson has voluntarily left the proceedings"
Then the Florida Bar presented it's evidence. Lalalala, bunch of legal crap.
The Bar recommends that Thompson's punishment should be: "Enhanced disbarment, with a reapplyment wait of 10 years"
After more legalese, the court was ajorned.
Mr Mim threw away his copy of the objection. A friend of mine who happened to be attending reached to get it at the same time a State Attorney was. We ended up getting a copy of it because the State Attorney was a nice guy.
And we went home.
End of story
GP: Thanks much, Nevext, for that first-hand account. "Mim" would be Florida Bar prosecutor Barnaby Min. Don't invite Thompson and Min to the same party. If you're having a party...
Comments
Justice is served.
thank god, good old jacko got what he deserved.
gamers rejoice
Sanity prevails. Finally.
I need more coffee...
I read that as "serenity pelvis"
:wtc:
Just read up to page 2 his word doc.
Thompson appears to be totally nuts. What kind of crazy talk is this? That kind of language in a legal document is totally inappropriate. I'm thinking that trying to get a judge fired on some kind of stupid technicallity is not the best way to proceed.
Good ridance.
I agree completly vodkajello. These are not the words of a lawyer. I espicially love at the start of (I belive) paragraph 10, in which he says "Fourthly, most of what I am charged with I did not do on behalf of any client but in pursuit of efforts to secure enforcement of laws for the common good." He essentially said 'I did everything I am accused off, but I'm saying i did it for all of you, drop the charges please."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdQpQgYHc4w
this sums my feelings up.
Interesting. Thompson claimed earlier in a court filing that he'd be boycotting the hearing. This morning he claimed he had a "little surprise" for Judge Tunis.
Was the surprise showing up at all or leaving in a huff?
Andrew Eisen
I'd say showing up at all. Then again, we're pretty used to him not actually doing what he say he will, but on the other hand, him storming out and throwing tantrums is also normal... As is wanting to read lengthy "I'm just like Jesus, buy my book, you're all closet gay drug-addicted neanderthals trying to oppress me, I've been on 60 Minutes, blah, blah" diatribes into the record...
So yeah, I'm still wondering myself what the "surprise" was supposed to be...
That podium arguing sounds like classic Thompson. I'm really curious as to what his specific objection to it's placement was? Maybe he wanted it turned around so he could lecture the crowd instead of speak to the judge. Play to the audience, as it were.
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...
True, but you know what Thompson is like, whenever you come up with some kind of justification that Jack cannot answer, then your reply is the cold winds of silence.
I don't think Thompson has ever had to accept his own failings and this storming out is exactly the same as when he makes a statement online and then remains deliberately oblivious to the faults in it. On the Internet, if someone says something he doesn't want to hear, he can just ignore it, he's trying to apply the same rules to reality.
His being 'ahead of the curve' with Stern may have led to him being removed from public radio, but the satellite contract, iirc, means that Thompson helped Stern make a lot more money than he himself will ever earn. Kind of ironic that this great 'victory' ended up putting a load of money into the hands of the 'defeated' party...
Thompson's always prided himself on his ability to stick his head in the sand to unpleasant facts. We all do it from time to time, we are hardly innocent here of not always sitting well with facts that aren't too flattering, but Thompson took it to a new level, and ended up taking it into a court room.
In the document he brings up the "Jesus made me do it" defense. Along with the "Since Jesus made me do it I'm not responsible for my clear misconducts and this bullshit law backs me up," defense.
I'm not really sure how he even hoped to blame this all on religious oppression. Let alone trying to use the "Florida Religious Freedom Restoration Act" as a loophole to harrassment, lies and constant other rulebreakings.
The hearings and eventual (official) disbarment of Thompson is not the "ultra-liberal extremist" BAR putting him down because he's religious. It's the BAR putting him down because he's a public nuissance, and an immature idiot bent on getting his way even if that means ignoring everyone else's views.
"That's not the issue Delmar. Even if that did put you square with the Lord, the State of Mississippi's a little more hard-nosed. "
Whatever it was, there sure wasn't any surprise at all.
He already said that he wasn't going to show/boycott it, but shows up(not a real surprise, he is the type not to turn down free PR & get in the last word) and then walks out(again, no real surprise based on his rants).
And it could not be that "you are not a judge" bit, just like the above, his PR crap has been saying such for a while.
i think the objection was meant to be the surprise..
too bad he couldn't read it xD
Hit the road Jack, and don't you come back no more no more no more no more! Hit the road Jack, and don't you come back no mooooooorrrrreeee!
He's a blowhard, a narcisist, and a pain in the side of anyone with half a brain. But we'll miss him if the "games are the root of all evil" crowd actually get someone intelligent on their side.
Of course, it was rap once... and elvis... and hippies... and well, you get the idea. Games is the hot button now-it'll pass. And Jack Thompson will be the footnote of a footnote in history.
One, he's an idiot. If he really thinks this will help his case then one wonders how on Earth he became a barrister in the first place.
Two, do you reckon they could get him on contempt of court now? :D
Considering a State Attorney was there as well as Mim, both witnesssing his walking out? If I'm not mistaken (and if I am please tell me) that would be grounds for Contempt charges.
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
Hopefully, but he was never arrested and charged with a crime. He was just being an asshole.
You fools! Don't you see, this is the beginning of the end for the Florida Bar! Through these deliberately unconstitutional actions, they have forfitted their 'right' to oversee the actions of lawyers in this state. By not allowing me to read my written objection into the record, "Judge" Tunis has gone wildly outside the power she claims, incorrectly, to have.
Thanks to the actions taken today by all parties present, the Florida Bar's days are numbered. Through my efforts, the Florida Bar will be deconstructed and resurrected as it should be - with my leadership at the helm!
Not Quite Jack Thompson, Attorney
Victory is at hand!
... Or Else.
Hooah!
sarcasm much? hehe
Are you sure it's the beginning of the end of the Florida Bar and not the way around, which is the beginning of the end of you, Mr. Thompson?
I'm sorry to say this, but the way you run around pointing your finger at nearly everything you see fit and attempt to make baseless lawsuits one after another gives other lawyers a bad name... a really bad one, at that, especially since you have 27 charges of misconduct handed down on your mushy old ass. At this point, I was really surprised you retained your Attorney's Badge because of it.
To put it simply, Mr. Thompson, you're an idiot. There is absolutely not a single thing you can do right, and I don't think I've ever come across a case you won against with the trials you endured in your career. Admittedly, you certainly have a career... a career at being the world's dumbest lawyer. Hell, even major video game companies filed a countersuit to stop your madness. And now it all comes down to you being disbarred for a decade. I personally think you should be permanently disbarred.
I DO believe you missed out on something important while contemplating pressing that reply button..
Like in the name signed on the post replied to having the name "Not Really Jack Thompson"..
Not to mention the overall tone (though shirt-vaporizing, sarcastic joking and Jack's "Reality" aren't all that different). :)
Not to mention, he was talking in first person.
Jack only uses third.
Better luck next time, impersonator.
Didn't you read his objection thingy? It was all first person (but still bullshit).
-- mostly harmless
LOL! JT FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously though... it's good to see that the courts are doing their job well in this case... HURRAH!
Epic win.
Haha! Awesome!
Although I'd say a 10 year disbarrment is considerably generous. So much for that surprise! Maybe he wanted to move the podium next to the floor button that would open a trap door underneath Tunis. Curses!! Foiled again!!
I think it means he's been permanently disbarred, with the option to apply for a new law license in 10 years (I wonder if he'll pass the "good character" test). Kind of like a life sentence, with the possibility of parole after 10 years.
And considering how much trouble Jack had passing the BAR when he left law school, I'm sure it'll be even harder to pass it again when he's in his mid-60s. He would have to take the exam again right?
Old age will have ravaged his mind even further past the point of insanity, so its pretty much a life sentence(and yes he'll have to take the bar exam again)
No Career for you! come back in ten years.
Am I the only one who will be emailing this man the following message?
"Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Justice is ever so sweet see you in 10 years Jacko"
----Reno to Thompson "I'm only interested in virile men. That’s why I'm not attracted to you." This kids, is what we call a grammatical smack down
Was the storming out of the hearing the "surprise" that Jack promised in the earlier story?
This is a golden ray of sunshine on an otherwise boring day buried in lawsuit paperwork.
He'll be 66 once those 10 years are up.
Nice Maths....
"You can’t charge a lawyer and you can’t charge a rapist with anything unless you tell him in the charging document with specificity—with facts alleged—what he has done." - John B. Thompson
...Does that count as a Freudian Slip? O.o
sounds more like a confession...
岩「…Ace beats Jack」
Amazing how Jack slips his obsession with sexual activities into everything isn't it? Kinda reminds me of those wacky evangelist preachers you see in comedies...
Freud would certainly have a field day.
Words connot describe how happy I am. Jacky Boy has been officially pwned.
He's done, seriously fucking done. Like a little kid he stormed out and lost the PIRVILEDGE, not right, of defending hismelf. Hehe, he won't live this down. And ten years? Fitting, since by the tiem that's up no one will give a damn about video games anymore, least not this debate.
Serves the man-child right.
And he thinks he was being professional this whole time.
I got this gem of a highlight of the "objection" from Kotaku:
"I am “guilty” of being right and ahead of the curve when it came to Howard Stern and as to Grand Theft Auto. Because I took on Bar complainant, Al Cardenas, the Howard Stern Show is off terrestrial radio and his influence diminished.
Because I took on this cop-killing, woman-bashing video game, the Presidential race is now addressing the issue and this particular video game.
Try to get me disbarred. Go ahead, do your worst, Referee Tunis. I will continue to do my best. "
Who's surprised? I wonder if McCain or Obama have even heard of him?
Oh, and Godwin on page 7.
Jezz, there's just no end to his delusions, is there? Yes, Howard Stern is off terrestrial radio, but his influence is hardly diminshed. In fact, he's arguably reaching even more people now thanks to Sirius and more if their merger with XM goes through. The only reason Jack blelieves otherwise is because he can't hear him.
As for GTA being a presidential campaign issue, Hillary mentioned it and even then only a few times. It quckly got buried amidst more relevant concerns over the war and an ailing economy.
Sometimes I think Jack's got his head buried so far up his ass you couldn't get it out if you hit him with a sledgehammer.
Paraphrased a bit, but you get the idea:
Page 1-3 "you're not a real judge"
Page 4 "I've never been told what rules I've broken"
Page 5 "the rules don't apply if I'm not representing a client"
Page 6 "you didn't receive referee training so this process is a sham"
Page 7 "you're like a Nazi"
Page 8 "I'm a culture warrior"
Page 9 "You're a liar, I've been ordered to have a psych exam, I am sane"
Page 10 "Jesus excuses all my actions"
Page 11 "You're an ultra-liberal extremist... and a Nazi"
Page 12 Bible quotes
Page 13 "You're anti-Christian", bible quotes, "I've been invited to a religious parade"
Still looking for that "surprise"...
-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...
Hahhaha, nice summary.
The surprise is that the objection was 10% of the length his ramblings usually are and contained only 50% of the insults.
-- http://pixelantes.blogspot.com/
Famous last words.
maybe the supprise is the new Jack Light only 10% of the length and half the insults.
And just as we are getting bored of Jack Lite, Satan will re-release Classic Jack to massively increased sales!
My favorite part was where Thompson accused Tunis of breaking a bar rule with her Recommendations Report by citing the rules for the Referee's Report. Tunis's Recommendations Report even says on the first page "This ruling does not constitute the Report of the Referee."
Thompson goes on to talk about the glories of the English language and how anyone who can't understand it is a dunce.
Hilarious.
Andrew Eisen
Kudos to the both of you for reading his filing. I've tired in the past, but 5 pages into it, I start feeling my braincells committing seppuku, and I get dizzy.
I can only imagine that judge tunis felt like going through all those documents.
Thanks, saved me from getting a headache from reading it.
You forgot the part on page 4 where he compares himself to a rapist.
Comedy gold, I tells ya.
I feel this man has missed the entire point of Christianity.
I am a Christian myself and I have to say.
When I try to read his words, ad sometimes when I even read about his actions, it makes me feel ill.
I think I'll give this piece of his writing a miss, after how his mother's day Epic made me feel.
Jesus, I've never even heard of a more pretentious, arrogant asshole, and I don't feel bad saying that considering the horrible things he's said about others.
Hopefully this will be a lesson to his son on what being a total asshole will get you.
You know I actually feel bad for his son, and any future descendents. They're going to have to live with this over their heads for who knows how long. It's basically like being Hitler's descendent.
Edit: It would appear, technically, that Godwin has struck again.
Drinks for everyone!!!
But seriously, I'm not surprised at this one little bit. He's acted like an unrepentant ass for so many years now, honestly believing that the rules apply to everyone else, but not to him. This is his just deserts, and what a rich one it is.
Tonight, I drink Cider to celebrate the sweetness of this victory, Apple Jack to remember the rotten apple that brought it forth, and play GTA IV to remember the lies he told. Cheers mates!!!
Now THAT is a celebration, man!
If that 4500 word screed of his doesn't prove he's simply batshit insane, I seriously don't know what will. The only way he could have acted any crazier would have been to drop his trousers, take a crap in his hands, fling it at the judge and smear the residue on the podium.
Let me ask the legal experts out there.
Let's say he gets disbarred (a 99.9% certainty at this point) and, since he refuses to recognize the authority of the Tunis court or of the SCOFLA, he continues to insist he's "An Attorney and you're not" and continues to try to act in a legal role as an attorney, what kind of trouble can he get into?
I mean, if you're not allowed to practice medicine and you continue to try to do so, you tend to go to jail.
At a minimum, that would be the "unauthorized practice of law," for which you can possibly end up in an orange jumpsuit
Personally I prefer the term "Bug-fuck Crazy" Dog.
As for if he tries to practice law while under the disbarment order, I'm not a lawyer, but I would assume jail time, fines, lawsuits from any client he may have at that time (False pretenses and all that).
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
I think you figured out why he wanted the podium moved. Get the judge in range and all.
Woot! It's good to see that the justice system works. I'd be interested to read the written objection that Nevext and his friend picked up. Is it legal for them to scan it, and then have it posted here on gamepolitics?
The objection document is linked as a Word document in the article you're responding to already.
-- http://pixelantes.blogspot.com/
Woops, nvm about the objection, I found the document.
Down in flames.
HOOAH!!!
Enhanced disbarment... I hope that's like enhanced interrogation...
Overdosing on schadenfreude at the moment.
I kinda feel bad for the guy, you know his brain's not attuned for reason or logic, and he's made up this persecution, martyrdom fantasy for a long time now... this will only fuel it. However, the good news is that while he'll still make noise (I hear WorldNutDaily needs writers) his appeal will be cloistered to preaching to the choir.
This totally made my week.
As someone once told Jack way back when GP was still using the LiveJournal format... (paraphrased)
"Mr. Thompson, you should try to be nicer to people, because one day you will reap what you sow."
Today he totally got the reaping he deserved.
"Today he totally got the reaping he deserved."
Not yet. He wasn't disbarred yet.
The Day of Reaping comes in September. I will raise a drink for his memory on that day.
-- http://pixelantes.blogspot.com/
aww and no reply from him? ... Silence is golden.
(Well i know what the cohorts at my site ... well the one I post news at, are going to be doing on sunday... :D)
So, cheering and jeering aside, is this "Loyalty Oath" thing an actual legitimate defense for Jack Thompson? I'm no lawyer, but it seems like a technicality that would prevent him from being disbarred.
I think it's already been handled. Somewhere on this site I read that the matter was investigated, and then dismissed. judge Tunis is on solid legal ground. Thompson just likes to forget the little details. You know... The truth?
Life begins and ends with Choice. Anything in your life that unlawfully or immorally steals Choice from you should be excised immediately, totally, and destroyed utterly.
Nope. An investigation of the issue at hand showed that the loyalty oath is more or less a technicality that does not impinge a judges from performing their duties. There was a pdf lying around somewhere that I read a few days ago outlining the final decision on the matter, and it made it clear as day that the "loyalty oath" was not an issue. I think it was on GP, but not certain.
Let me put it this way: but for the fact that the loyalty oath was indeed forged, I'd be shaking my head at yet another nutty Jack Thompson legal theory. But, unfortunately, facts do interface with law and that's a real good fact for Jack to have on his side and one which I'm sure he'll milk for all it's worth and then some. Nevertheless, I think that when all is said and done and the dust settles, he's burnt toast. If for no other reason than Jack don't know how to let of the "kitchen sink" mentality in favor of putting all his money on a horse that isn't lame.
I read about the forged loyalty oath thing on a legal site (no clue what its called) the ruleing on that case was that the signature was indeed forged how ever it was done without the judges knowledge as she was supposed to be given the oath to sign when she took the office however a (now retired) clerk forged the signature. the final ruling was that the forged signature does not negate any previous ruleings by the judge(s) affected and the statute of limitations ran out on this matter. it ran out in 2005 at the max a whole 3 years ago apparely there where 2 things that could extend the statute however they where one or the other one added 2 years to the statute and the other added 3 years to the statute when it origanally ran out in 2002
to put it simply the statute of limitations ran out on this matter back in 2005.
The statute of limitation issue as discussed in the State Attorney's close-out memo only relates to criminal prosecution of the person who actually did the forging and, as stated in the memo, that person was not Judge Tunis. What it says, in effect, is that "we don't know who did this forgery but we know it wasn't Judge Tunis and even if we did know who did it, it's too late to bring criminal charges against them." The staute of limitation issue is therefore a non-issue as it relates to Jack and Judge Tunis. Furthermore, the close-out memo does not address (as being beyond the scope of the investigation) the question of what effect the forgery has on Judge Tunis' rulings. The memo doesn't do anything to refute Jack's contention that the forged loyalty oath rendered Judge Tunis without authority to hold office and that therefore her rulings are invalid. All it says it that it wasn't the Judge who committed the forgery and she was unaware of the fact of the forgery. But that does nothing to cure the fact that the oath, by virtue of being forged, was invalid. And it does nothing to make valid the rulings which Judge Tunis has made during the period of the invalid oath.
What it says, in effect, is that "we don't know who did this forgery but we know it wasn't Judge Tunis
Of course not, it's hard to forge your own signature...
Actually, it can depend on the state, but Forgery is generally defined as "false or improper signing of a legal document". Basically, you know how wills are supposed to be signed while in the presence of two witnesses? If you were to sign it by yourself and then someone signed it as a 'witness' later, that would technically be forgery as well.
It's one of the concepts behind a notary public: not only do you sign something, they're there to make sure that you signed it the right way. the System sure can be goofy sometimes.
If there does turn out to be a way to wiggle out of this hearing's results via this point he raised up, won't the Bar just redo the hearing with another judge? After seeing the things he's been doing all this time, I don't think the result would be any different with another Judge.
Appart from maybe the one from the Phoenix Wright titles. But he's not a real judge thankfully (who knows what rulings He would do without Wright and Edgeworth to correct him).
Or is there some strange rule that means if he can't be "reheard" by a different Judge?
(My Dad's in law [mostly wills ands stuff] but I know little about law at this level myself.)
It appears that that document and all the charges therein were his trump card. Of particular note is where he says that he wasn't told what he was charged with, and then when he says: "Fourthly, most of what I am charged with I did not do on behalf of any client but in pursuit of efforts to secure enforcement of laws for the common good. " Good job Jack. First you say that you were not told what you did, and then you say that these charges you don't know about all stem from things you did pro bono.
Not a suprise from the Bar and Judge Tunis. They want Mr. Thompson gone for all the right reasons; breaking the rules, etc. However, I will reserve my popcorn and good scotch for the day the Supreme Court of Florida finally rules on the fate of Mr. Thompson. However, that will be some mighty tasty scotch...aged five years and counting. As for the popcorn...well, a little celebration is in order :-D.
"It is not enough to do good; one must do it the right way."
John Viscount Morely, of Blackburn
I think I'll pull some 25 yr. old scotch for september, for now is Muscadine wine with a lovely dinner and good company, in which we shall all drink to a fallen enemy.
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
Where are you from... Mississippi? If so I am too. Love the wine, wish I had some right now.
Jack Thompson the Tank engine with a blown head gasket.
Alabama actually.
Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.
It's Nevexst, just so we're all happy. :)
Sorry about the confusion about Min. I was pressed for time because of a family engagement.
I also apologize if I have been a little vague in my account, but I'm no court reporter. :(
All in all, this trial lasted 20 minutes.
Also, before the judge came in, Thompson was in the inital phases or arguing with the baliff.
And I do believe I saw his wife in the courtroom today. But I'm not sure. The woman I am talking about was in the back of the courtroom with the baliff(For those who attended who are also GP readers)
And this is the kicker: After the trial had concluded, he was still in the lobby area. He was on his laptop. I bet he was visiting his favorite website in the world ;)
Thanks for the contribution Nevexst. I'm sure I echo everyone here when I say your account was greatly appreciated!
-Loudspeaker
"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."
Indeed. Your contribution is greatly appreciated.
To the contrary! I liked your account because it was short, to the point, and still managed to get across enough detail to give me some pretty damn satisfying mental pictures. (Arguing over the placement of the podium?! Really?!?) One is reminded of Hemingway. ;D
Arguing with the bailiff is such a big no-no! All good lawyers know: If you are mean to the staff, it goes badly for you. They go and talk to the judge, who makes the decisions, and it does make a difference. First thing I learned in evidence: Never, never be rude to clerks, secretaries or bailiffs. It not only screws you in front of that judge, but it gets around the whole courthouse. There's not a faster way to get a bad rep in the legal community - besides, maybe, the behavior in which Mr. Thompson has engaged.
A.
Good to see you dropping by, Ally!
This is one of the happiest days of my life.
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Whoever suggested the Flowers for Judge Tunis idea is awesome. It's really not a bad idea, to thank her for finally putting jack out to pasture. Although I'm sure this won't be the last we hear from him, his credibility has been shattered for any respectable organization who wishes to coherently challenge the industry.
To quote Quagmire. "Take the venom out of a cobra and what've you got? A...belt."
Do NOT send anything to Judge Tunis. No flowers. No chocolates. No stuffed animals. No sympathy cards.
She's not allowed to accept them.
Bah, right. Too bad. I understand though.
Yeah, apparently the courts in general can't take random gifts as a matter of maintain impartiality. So we couldn't even send something to the courthouse staff in general.
If you are interested in supporting Judge Tunis and would like to assist her in remaining on the bench, there is a perfectly proper way to do so and one which is actually protected by the First Amendment as a form of free speech expression:
CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS.
She is, after all, an elected official who must run for re-election periodically.
Quick though, I like the flowers for Tunis idea, but could she get in trouble for someone tahnking her for getting him disbarred?
Maybe send Jack some "Happy Disbarrment" Flowers instead.
It's possible. Note Dog Welder's post.
Otherwise I'd be all for it, but if we can't, we can't.
I think Get Well Soon flowers would be more appropriate.
-- http://pixelantes.blogspot.com/
I believe that flowers would be an unexpected and welcome suprise to the judge, I too would wait until the final supreme court ruling. Possibly until after all the appeals (which are now a certainty) before we can all sing.
However, if GP put up a paypal link for a freewil donation for flowers for Judge Tunis... I'd certainly donate and I bet I'm not the only one. I dont know how much it would raise, but I'll bet it would buy the local flower shop out of inventory.
I like that idea, personally, but I'm not sure that the court doesn't accept "Thank You" gifts.
It'd be great if we could do it after the sentence, though.
In ten years' time we should send her an award/memorial then.
Unless she finds herself having ruling for another of Jack's hearings after that time...
¬..¬
He compared his situation to Nazi's. He called Tunis a Nazi. Now, I don't know much about court rules, but in forum rules, that means he lost his argument.
Yes. Odd he called her a Nazi whe he's acted more like one himself.
Jack likes calling people Nazis, it's his thing.
Yea, I was just reading that... comparing the courtroom with the Third Reich? Not gonna win you any popularity contests.
Wow, I just leafed through his so-called "objection". Just... wow!
I've heard of a "clusterf*ck" before, but this is the first time I've ever read a "blusterf*ck".
CELEEEEBBRRAATTE GOOODD TIIIIMMMESS, COOOMOONNN!
WOOHOO!!
Finally, some recognition from somebody in authority, that JT is a self-righteous, egotistical, Lying, cheating, scheming , worming, manipulating, slimy, abusive, pompous, arrogant, immature, money-grabbing, parasitic, victim-leeching, success-hungry, self absorbed, deceitful, abusive, self centred Scum bag.
The things we have know for YEARS now.
At least next time he comes a'knockin with his, 'im a lawyer , your not', 'im an expert, your a gamer with fried frontal lobes crap', we can just tell him where to stick his opinions and hand him a T shirt with 'I'm a lawyer' written on it, with (the word 'disbarred' scrawled with a little arrow in betwen 'a' and 'lawyer').
seriously is anyboy else just suprised its actually taken this long. Cant wait till Faux news have him on next (lets face it when did an expert ACTUALLY have to be an expert on there) and if there is a respondent defending games they can just respond to whatever he says with Pure laughter. Then just point, wipe tears from their eyes, and say 'Im Sorry, ohh ohh.. yeah its ok Jackie... you can still play, thats right your a REAL lawyer and dont let anybody tell you different. High five for Jackie expressing himself everybody, gold star jackie, gold star', then burst out laughing again.
Ona sidenote( one of two!) yeah i was suprised by his LACK of suprise today. Maybe that was his suprise... hes a complex man after all..
Sidenote 2: cue JTS victory speech in like a few hours. Hes could have been the Iraqi information minister. "We are winning, We have driven america out of Iraq like rats, no Americans here... *Rumble Rumble RUmble* *American tanks drive past in the back of the camera*>
The funny thing is that if he represents himself as a lawyer after he gets disbarred he will be in DEEP shit (since it's illegal to do that).
-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.
No, you always have a right to represent yourself. It's only Unauthorized Practice of Law if you represent someone else (unless Florida has a REALLY bizarre rule, and I can't see that being the case)
"Sidenote 2: cue JTS victory speech in like a few hours. Hes could have been the Iraqi information minister."
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Comparing him to Jack is an insult to the Iraqi information minister. He at least was just doing his job, showed more courage than a number of his compatriots, and knew when it was over and time to look for a new line of work.
Wow... 10 years? Really? That's it? Makes one wonder what it takes for permanent disbarment.
I have to admit though... 10 years will certainly be enough time for video games to no longer be under the microscope. He can reapply for a law license in 2018. By that time my kids will probably be the ones dealing with men like JT.
I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know the weight of the rules he violated simply the number. For our gamer friendly lawyers out there how does this punishment rate? High as Judge Tunis could go or was she giving him a bit of kindness?
All in all I must say that justice has still been served. Yeah the final sentence won't come down until September 3rd, but who would take on a lawyer who's facing disbarment as representation? How much weight will any of his lawsuits have when he won't be able to represent his self interests anymore?
I won't stoop to calling this a win for the gaming community. This is a win for the legal community who FINALLY cleaned up their own house. Yes he has a vendetta versus gamers, Take-Two, and the gaming community in general, but gamers are not the ones who brougtht the charges against him that stuck.
Rejoice in the fact the media demon of the gaming world has been stripped of its wings. God knows we'll be seeing some pretty intense death throws at this point.
-Loudspeaker
"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."
Yes, in 10 years he'll be able to reapply and retake the Bar Exam. Do you honestly think he'll be able to pass it?
Nope. Honestly it will be irrelevant even if he does.
-Loudspeaker
"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."
Doubtful. He'd be over 65 by then. About time for retirement. And isn't there a point where one is considered too old to practice law?
That could be why Tunis decided on 10 years. If he were any younger, she probably would have recommended disbarment for life.
Anyway, he'll be out of our hair at long last for a good long while. And we have something to throw in his face if he ever opens his mouth again.
> Wow... 10 years? Really? That's it? Makes one wonder what it takes for permanent disbarment.
It pretty much takes murdering your client.
Anyway, this is essentially permanent -- he has the option to reapply in 10 years, but he has to come back with compelling evidence that he's changed. Even if by some miracle that does occur, he would be under a microscope, and if he pulled anything again, he'd be up in front of the disciplinary again before you can say HOOAH.
There is another way to be disbarred forever, really, really fast.
Stealing from your client's. Lawyers are required to keep a special client trust account. If they dip into it themselves, it's basically an automatic permanent disbarment, even if you later put the money back.
The guy is like Stewart from Mad Tv. Fucking priceless. Oh, and thank you Nevexst.
-GRIZZAM PRIME(c)is property of the U.S. Marine Corp. Wetworks Dept., and also The Incredible Hulk-GRIZZAM PRIME is not to be associated with GRIZZAM 512 or any other GRIZZAM entity under penalty of law, so sayith ZARATHOS.
Wow, his complaint is a mess. He went from saying the judge isn't a judge, to quoting the bible, to mentioning Clinton and Obama.
All I want to know is when is the tv movie coming out about all of this?
No need. Any clips on Youtube will be lulzy enough.
Any clips in YouTube set to the tune of "Hit the Road Jack" would be better.