Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years; Thompson Storms Out of Hearing

June 4, 2008 -

GamePolitics has learned that the Florida Bar has requested that controversial attorney Jack Thompson, 56, be disbarred for ten years for 27 violations of professional misconduct.

The request came today at a sanctions hearing before Judge Dava Tunis in Miami.

Thompson reportedly stormed out of the hearing after Tunis refused to let him read a lengthy objection aloud. Tunis, acting as referee on behalf of the Florida Supreme Court, did permit Thompson to submit a copy of his objection for the record. 

Prior to that there was apparently some disagreement between Tunis and Thompson over the placement of the podium. We're told Thompson lost that argument as well.

By leaving the courtroom, Thompson missed the opportunity to argue any mitigating factors to the Bar's recommendation for harsh punishment.

A GamePolitics reader, Nevext , apparently was present today and posted impressions in comments to this morning's preview piece on the hearing. Here's Nevext's version of events:

I was able to tag along with an actual attorney, so we drove to the courthouse, went up to the courtroom, waited outside until 2pm. Baliff opened the door and I held it open. Sadly, I even held it open for the beast himself.

So the judge came in. Judge Tunis seems like a real nice lady.

Thompson wanted to make known that he had a objection in writing. He was able to submit it to the record, but the judge said he couldn't read it aloud. That really pissed him off, I think. He also passed around copies of the objection to various reporters and a member of the legal community known as "Mr. Mim". He also claimed that "Mr. Mim" was not supposed to be there. So he dropped the objection into his lap and went back to his side of the court. The judge was NOT pleased.

Eventually, he made comments about the judge not being a judge(This is relating to the Loyalty Oath stuff), said the hearing was moot, and WALKED OUT.

"The court acknowledges that Mr. Thompson has voluntarily left the proceedings"

Then the Florida Bar presented it's evidence. Lalalala, bunch of legal crap.

The Bar recommends that Thompson's punishment should be: "Enhanced disbarment, with a reapplyment wait of 10 years"

After more legalese, the court was ajorned.

Mr Mim threw away his copy of the objection. A friend of mine who happened to be attending reached to get it at the same time a State Attorney was. We ended up getting a copy of it because the State Attorney was a nice guy.

And we went home.

End of story

GP: Thanks much, Nevext, for that first-hand account. "Mim" would be Florida Bar prosecutor Barnaby Min. Don't invite Thompson and Min to the same party. If you're having a party...


Comments

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

It wasn't so much a forged document as a document no one told her she had to sign as a clerk just scrawled her name on it. However, she did sign it once this was pointed out to her, so it really doesn't matter.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

I bet that old Jacky will still go onto FoxNews and rant about how the gamers and lawyers are trying to kill him.

 

But this real news of his Disbarred for 10 years is enough evidence to back us up so if Jack tries to go on his sensationalism to attract attention, we just need a few good people to make note of his disbarrment from the Florida Bar and all his legal cases and political rants will have no real justification other than just to attract attention

 

So yeah, at least the Videogaming world will be free from Jack's sensationalism opinions if we all remember this day

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

At least the good news is that Jack Thompson talks to God:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkb1U3n3yd8

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Epic win. 5/5

I'm actually curious as to what Thompson's response to this will be if and when he finds out. I'm sure he'll email you about your hellish ways. So keep us posted on that.

-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

While I'm relatively sure Jack doesn't have time to surf all the loving fan videos he has inspired on YouTube, he may come across this one.  Problem is, given that he doesn't own any of the content in the videos, he can't exactly issue a DMCA takedown notice.  If he's feeling generous, he'll do the good Christian thing and turn the other cheek.  Or, as he so often does, he may threaten me with another casting of the millstone into the sea...  in either case, Jack will have a lot more time on his hands to talk to God now.  Plus, as he promises in his court response to Judge Tunis, he'll be in Utah next month to rub shoulders with the most devoutly religious this secular democracy has left.

(giggles) Like I wasn't going to Hell already for making "Super Columbine Massacre RPG!"

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

My guess is he'll hear about this somehow. He does like to troll around here, so he might have already clicked the link. I think it's likely that if he finds it he'll make some baseless legal claim. Calling it libelous, or at the very least "typical gamer filth" or somesuch. When that happens you'll have the intense pleasure of laughing at his inane flailings. Much like this man did.

-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

If he's feeling generous, he'll do the good Christian thing and turn the other cheek

AHAHAHAHAHA good one man!

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

I unlocked the "Warm Coffee" achievement in GTA 4 and thought of JT :) I think it's fitting.

No site crash yet?

I gotta give credit to gamepolitics for the site not crashing all to hell. Seems like every time there's a story with the words "Jack" or "Thompson", there are immediately hundreds of posts.

 

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Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: No site crash yet?

Well I hadn't noticed any posts by him in this thread... prolly too busy crying his eyes out or slitting his wrists or something, not that I care really.

And for those concerned "He'll be back"; well in 2018 he'll be 66 (if still alive) and that 90% guilty counts of misconduct will still be there, so if he's still insane enough to pursue this failed attempt at leaving a mark I'm not so sure they'll let him back.

And more than likely we'll have videogames be far more accepted by then anyway, making him even less influential then than he ever was. (If at all, LOL)

 

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Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

All I can say is that he got what he deserved. He spread lies and disinformation under the name of a lawyer crusading to save us all...and karma came back and bit him in the...well you know where. I do love the little tantrum he threw because he did not get his way. He seemed like a five year old child not an adult. I just hope that they give him a "special" version of the bar exam so hard to pass we never see him as a lawyer or "videogame violence expert" again.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Some more details:

An lawfirm/lawyer was mentioned. It was not Tew Cardenas. Sadly, I can not remember the name, but it did sound like it was of spanish decent.  Apparently, Thompson forwarded an email from aforementioned lawfirm to Judge Tunis and her judicial assistant. Tunis had her assistant forward it to bar counsel, so it wouldn't be considered Ex parte. Unfortunatly, I do not remember all the particulars on this.

Two ballifs: They were pretty cool. In honesty, one of them actually looked like Reggie Fils-Aime. Reggie!Ballif has apparently never had experience with Thompson, so when the trial was over, he was expressing disbelief over Thompson's actions. Especially in regards to Min.

 

 

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Jack, I just read the post you said this morning. I'm assuming that you hadn't really thought the suprise through properly, unless it was storming out of the court like that. In which case it wasn't all that suprising, but very welcome by everyone in the court, and just funny for everyone else.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Ten bucks says that Jack only found out his punishment by coming to this site. Epic fail Mr. Thompson, Epic fail.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

I totally want to throw a big party and invite both those of those two. Sure, neither would show up but that's because they're both in flordia... unless I said Jack Thompson could speak..

Then he'd be so excited to maybe potentially be able to bitch to someone that he might show up.. hmm...

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

I'm not sure whether or not to be excited about this. On one hand, a nutcase is going to have a lot less influence then he used to wield, on the other, someone with a degree of sanity may take up that cause next. Though I doubt someone sane would be nearly as effective, since most of what got Jacky attention was the lies that were completely off-the-wall, but get a lot of attention, because the news does little to no checking on facts anymore.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Actually if someone came up to the front who had an actual argument and was open to discussion that would actually be pretty good, but that wont happen any time soon

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

This is it brothers. Soon gamers take over the whole world! no one can stop us anymore!

Game Over, Thank You for Playing

The war is over for now and peace has been restored.  But those who sacrificed themselves for the victory will never return.

Exhausted, X gazes at the destruction he helped cause and wonders why he chose to fight.  Was there another way?

Standing on the cliff, the answers seem to escape him.  He only knows he'll fight the Mavericks again before he finds his answer.

How long will he keep on fighting?  How long will his pain last?  Maybe only the X-Buster on his hand knows for sure...

Re: Game Over, Thank You for Playing

Damn that's some deep shit man.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

is there is a place for the pary when JT will be barred?

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

I dont know man, jack was hated by so many people across the world that it would be impossible to have ONE party, maybe EA and T2 could rent out the Superdome and split the cost. PART ALL NIGHT LONG

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

I don't think the Superdome would be big enough.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Maybe they could rent out an entire city

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Maybe Bush, as his final lame-duck act, could declare a national holiday.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

 Y'know what's funny... the error in Thompson's loyalty oath complaint is right there in his objection...

" The statute itself states that if any state official, including a judge, fails to COMPLY strictly with the loyalty oath statute, then that judge is without legal authority to serve and must immediately be removed from office. "

Emphasis added to comply... You see jack might have a case against Judge Tunis if she did not comply with signing the oath, as in she REFUSED to sign the oath. Looking up the case jack mentioned was a case in which a teacher REFUSED to sign the oath. However as the investigation of the situation shows there is no indication that she refused to sign the oath. As it was mentioned, Judge Tunis apparently never received the paperwork, and the clerk responsible made the decision to forge her name and send in the paperwork, all without her knowledge. And the fact that she signed the proper paperwork when the mistake was made known to her as fact just goes to show that she had the full intention of signing the oath had it been given to her. Essentially, Judge Tunis can not be held responsible for the clerk's mistakes... Also, looking up the case jack mentioned gives a little about the oath and it has little bearing on one's ability to judge, as in it doesn't do much to effect her judgement in case matters (the oath is meant for all state employees, not just judges)...

Y'know, one thing i can't help but wonder... does Jack even realize the ramifications of what he was trying to do? I'm no legal expert, but if not signing the oath was grounds to remove Tunis AND make the case she presided over Jack null and void, wouldn't that mean ALL of her cases since she became a judge (since the loyalty oath) would also be rendered null and void? If that were the case, i think that would mean that EVERY case she ever presided over would have to be re-tried before a new judge... the florida courts would be in complete chaos with all the work they would now have to do since they would have to make up YEARS of cases. Leave it to Jack to find new ways to harassing the courts for his own selfish reasons.

god bless that the the courts know the law better than Jack  and knows that the Judge Tunis's situation with the loyalty oath has no bearing on her ability to judge and that she was not responsible for the mistakes made.

 

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

And the chaos which you rightly point out would ensue if the rulings are found invalid is multiplied by three. There are two other Cicuit Court judges besides Judge Tunis who feel victim to forged loyalty oath.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

So when does he actually get disbarred? Anyone know?

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Sometime in September.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Having read through the "objection," at least skimmingly, since I want to preserve my grey matter, I wonder how much merit Jack's arguments may have in a court of law.

I know that if Jack argues them, there's no real worry, but supposing that a competent lawyer handles his case, perhaps a deluded young lawyer who REALLY believes in the Constitution to the degree that Jack believes he's a Christian, could there be a possibility of success?

I'm looking at this from the point of view of a lawyer who believes in black and white, that the absolute letter of the law is more important than its intent, the sort of person who would ignore everything Jack has ever said and done. Is there a real issue here?

Or are his arguments completely misinterpreted and without merit, as usual?

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

they young lawyer will win only if the other/opposing lwayer is as competent and intelligent as Jack Thompson himself.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

This has to be the greatest day of my life!!!

 

Detroit wins the cup and Jack gets dissbared.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Yeah....I'm a Pittsburgher....I don't care that much about Hockey though, so I can take it in stride and just be glad for the Justice System, and of course, Barack Obama, our next president.

-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

woo hoo red wings!!!!!

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Also, Barak Obama won the nomination over Hillary the bitch clinton.

This makes up for the shit year ive had so far

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Yes.. Barack * I went to an Afro-Centric Racist Church* Obama..

Im a freakin LIBERAL and I hate him...

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Do not confuse Rev. Wright's Black Liberation propaganda with Obama's political views, they are not one and the same. I do hope you do a little political research before you choose who you want to hate this election.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

If take away Obama's craziness your left with nothing.

He's a man of change.

what kind of changes.

we're changing change!

Whaa?

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

LOL!  I think she's a phony bitch too.  She also needs a new haircut.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Just to clarify, since I know this place and someone is bound to mention it, this means he's good at getting attention, and crap at using it once he's got it ;)

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

I think part of the problem is that Thompson simply doesn't realise that there are lawyers out there who have gripes with the Florida Bar system, and who are trying to get those problems dealt within by playing within the rules. In fact, I doubt there is a lawyer or Judge in the entire state that doesn't have at least one concern about how the Bar is run.

Whilst it is true that bloggers such as Rumpold, who quite frequently exposes items of interest either to the benefit or discredit of the Bar also have to remain anonymous to prevent backlash, that is not because of a lack of Freedom of Speech, it is because Rumpold is aware of the fact that he lives in reality and not some Peter-Pan Tv-Advertisement world. Thompson made himself into his own lightning rod, he uses shock and sensationalism to promote his agenda, and, let's face it, he's pretty good at it.

The sad fact is that, had Thompson added his weight as a lawyer to those already looking for improvements, he would probably have helped out most of his fellow lawyers and judges in some small way, now, however, he's actually managed to stretch himself to the point where just about anyone within the Bar above the rank of Administrative Assistant should be sacked...

He didn't want to be a lawyer, however, he wanted to be a spokesperson, it's a common trend in Thompson, just take a look at the situation in Louisina with the AG there, where Jack wanted it to be his show or he'd take his toys home, if Thompson isn't the focus of attention, then he doesn't want to know. Problem is, he's a crap at it, he confuses vitriolic insults for 'inspired debate' and blindness to any other opinion than his own for 'determination'.

So yes, Thompson shouldn't be a lawyer, because he isn't being a lawyer, he's being a critic armed with the ability to file lawsuits vexatiously.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

I downloaded the document into word, and it found some grammer errors *I found one that word didn't pick up on as well* This goes to show how hastily it must have been written, I mean he is a lawyer, surely he possesses some competence at least with proper grammer.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

everyone will simply say.. "it's Jack Thompson"

Why sadly?

"Sadly, I even held it open for the beast himself." But why sadly? It's like holding open a door straight to Hell for the beast condemned to damnation. I'd be grinning the whole time!

Re: Why sadly?

Lol. Didn't think about it that way I guess. Then again, I was in a nervous wreck just being in close proximity to the man. Didn't want him to go on a tirade about gamers infecting the court of law or some stupid bullshit like that. So I kept as best a neutral face as I could.

Re: Why sadly?

He didn't... He didn't touch you, or come into contact with you, did he? If so, throw out the clothes you were wearing, take a long shower, and if you have any iodine laying around you may want to drink some, because JT is actually radioactive and can give off as many as a few hundred Rad. It's pretty serious.

-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

It's finally game over for ol' Jack Thompson. There's nothing left he can do once the disbarment becomes in effect in September. And by then, he'll hear the whole world cheer.

Noe that he's lost power in this, I think it's time he pays a visit to the men in white coats. :)

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Well, 10 years is quite a long time, I really doubt he would even be able to take up his job by then, he'll be in his late sixties right?

The state attorney sounds like one swell dude, I doubt that Jack will stop, he'll probably head up a group declaring Games to be pure evil that will one day destroy the world.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

10 years, huh? Well, he'll be in retirement age by the time the sentence is up, plus there's no guarantee that he'll pass the test again.

All because he refuses to practice what he preaches about growing up and get a life.

Re: Florida Bar Wants Jack Thompson Disbarred For 10 Years;

Wow, 150+ comments in 6 hours? I've been missing out here

With Hillary pretty much out the primaries and Jack out of commission, its a cause worthy of celebration.

I brought an imaginary 6 pack of Jack Daniel's, a funnel, a bootleg copy of GTA4 and a dart board with a full-length picture of Thompson. Feel free to glee at your heart's content.

With the verdict given, it seldom feels like the blissful utter silence of a damn car alarm that wouldn't go off at 3 in the morning.

Rejoice gamers, for our voice will never be silenced, and our controllers will never be stripped from our hands!

 
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