John McCain's Video Game Platform: Small Blogger Scores Scoop

June 13, 2008 -

Congrats to Lori Ingham and her ConChrist blog for scoring Republican presidential candidate John McCain's reaction to the video game violence issue.

Ingham caught up to McCain during a campaign appearance in New Hampshire yesterday. From her blog:

I did get to ask him two questions from the audience. Once I FINALLY got the microphone, I introduced myself, where I lived, and as a segue way into the questions mentioned that I used to be a reporter but now ran this blog. These are somewhat paraphrased from the actual questions I asked him.

Question #1: With the current controversy over video game and media violence, what is your stance on allowing parents to make the decisions for their children on what they can see and watch? (This question was rolling around in my head primarily because of the recent posts that I had on Jack Thompson)

McCain's Answer: He felt that parents should be the ones to decide for their kids on a case by case basis (which I was satisfied with). He then did a weird segueway into the evils of child pornography from there, which kind of had me shaking my head.
 

GP: We're proud to say that Lori Ingham is also a GamePolitics reader. It's great to see a blogger going the extra mile for original content.


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I'm all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area.  If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?

But majority araba kiralama of their outrage araç kiralama stems from what it could DO TO children, not the content itself.  Talk to one of these people and you'll find they don't think any books kiralık araba should be banned from children.  Mention American Psycho and they talk about kiralık araç the redeeming value of using imagination to construct a story.  Reading, no matter what the content, is largely viewed as a consequenceless activity for people of any age.  The reason why I mention American Psycho is because of the content itself.  Gaming never has and likely never will have any scenes where someone has sex with a severed head.  Not gonna happen.  Yet despite this, they'll fight tooth and nail to protect their children from two boys kissing in Bully but whatever they read is harmless... yeah.

The entire arguement is kiralık oto based upon a social normality inflicted by luddites who can't figure out the controls for Halo so it's frightening and terrifying and obviously the cause of youth violence on the rise even though, in reality, it's in decline (which is actually a HUGE suprise given minibüs kiralama the economies status).  In  a perfect world, we would have parents that actually parent.  The idea of sales restrictions on media on oto kiralama any form to accomidate parental unwillingness to get involved with their child's life is the real problem to me.  Here I am, 32 years old, and being held up at a self-scan rent a car needing to show ID before I can buy a $10 M rated game all because Soccer Momthra can't be bothered to look at the crap Billy Genericallystupidson does in his free time.  It's too hard for her, so I have to suffer?

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Um...wasn't McCain for video games having violent content be edited? Like Mortal Kombat? I'm trying to remember, I wasn't very old back then, but I'm pretty sure his name was mentioned during that whole pre-ESRB era.

As to the First Amendment, what would one more form of censorship really do to hurt us? The government already edits and controls what we see on television, what content we have access to on the internet, what we read in books and magazines, what we hear onthe radio, what we can say in public, what we can learn in schools, what we can wear, what, when and where we can practice religion, what products we can buy and where we can buy said products, what, when and where we may urinate or have bowel movements, what we can eat, how we can travel, how much money we're allowed to make, um...I'm forgetting things...um...what kind of pets we're allowed to have, how much land we're allowed to own, um...pretty much everything we do in our lives.

Most of you people are very opinionated and have very strong beliefs, but what you fail to realize is that you are not free, your opinion does not matter and truth be told, no one cares whether you're happy or not...or even alive or dead. Well, maybe we won't go that far, if you're dead, you can't pay taxes.

Truth is, it doesn't matter who you vote for, or for what reason. The person "elected" to office will be the person "they" want in office. Simple as that. Deal with it, or move to Canada.

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Too much was said in the comments for me to even begin.  First off I seen someone said socialized medicine was a good thing.... no it isn't.  It would create a lot of inefficiency.  The medical and pharmaceutical industry would abuse the fact they were getting paid by the government and the consumer would suffer.  Social programs are never the answer.  It causes the people to be dependant upon the government and what we should all be seeking is independence.

On the topic of his stance on video games:

I’m glad he takes the stance that parents should decide but I do agree that it is strange he brought up child pornography.  My guess is that he didn’t want to seem like he was against protecting children against and perceived “evils” of society so he mentioned his stance against child pornography to be certain that he is perceived as pro-parent/child rights.

I'm honestly more satisfied with his answer than Obama's frequent belitting of gamers.  To be honest, I wouldn't vote for either if my life depended on it.  They are both establishment candidates and that is not what this country needs.  I'm currently researching into Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party.  I'll send him an e-mail and see if I can get a response from him.

 

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What frequent belittling? I can recall 3 times he said get out and exercise. *rolls eyes*



BTW a 3rd party will never happen in the US until the 2 party system breaks so you are turely forced to pick the lesser of the 2 chossen evils becuse thats how broken the US system is.




As for Social programs we have a choice to let thos below us die and starve or do what we can for the masses, Social programs or not the problem persay but ineptitude and bureaucracy for the sake of bureaucracy, we should over hual the shcool system in the us to go K-C(collage) and focus on things that make our students smarter not pander to lobby's and unions but sadly humans=fail(bureaucracy).



I think going after insurance and big parma ensuring generics are available ASAP that issuance stops over charging and under delivering, when it costs more than 200 a month to insure a family of 3 for 2 cars or 600 for healthcare something is wrong there comes a point when capitalism starts to damage more than it gives, regulation is would work if bureaucracy and pettyness is limited ,

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As much as the dims need to lay of drugs..the reapers well never fix the country they are to busy lubing up for their corporate masters, the US is more of a aristocracy than a democracy the powerful and wealthy run the nation under the guise of public service.

 

 

Not saying the dims are better merely a different orifice they intrude upon, Obama and Ron paul are the lesser of evils(well that is if the reapers chose RP and not raped his backbone out like they did to mcain) but I digress Obama is the lesser of evils simply because he will push the government back to center while the dims lead us to left of center, it’s the only balance this nation has with the broken 2 party system either a candidate is run that is good but unpopular in the party(like RP) you get to chose continuation of the last monarchy or continuation  of the status quo IE dims rape the populace for a few eyars then the reapers assert their dominance on the populace and the poor lil sheeple that have a memory span of a nat go running back and forth to the parent that’s less abusive in the last few years….its a sick sad process.

 

Obama has more IQ and skills than duyba so it can’t be so bad under his reign, at least he appears to be a smart conversationalist, sure change is a key word to herd sheeple better but everyone uses it Obama has wit and intendance he could use more swagger but frankly after GW walking around like he had 2 basket ball’s in his pants we can do without moronic swagger for a lil bit…I have a feeling whoever gets elected will only last 1 term anyway.

 

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Huh?

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Merely saying some of us see him as a fancy lead weight to balance government out since its been right heavy for a while now, not saying he won’t gain weight and go in the other direction back to ze stupid zone but his wordings in his PR blitzing are no different than the rest only  the word play is akin to turning the volume up.

 

Not saying Obama is a hack just a good politician sadly…then again that’s better than G“I iz a ass puppet love me for I iz retarded“ Dubaya….. even mcain is a slight upgrade even if he is older meaner and more beholdant to the reaper leaders….

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Re: John McCain's Video Game Platform: Small Blogger Scores

I have nothing against McCain, but someone brought up something interesting about his name. McCain means 'Son of Cain', and in the myth Garden of Eden, Eve gave birth to twins, Cain and Abel. Cain was the evil brother and committed the first murder that ever happened in mankind by killing Abel.

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If you want to look at the biblical view, the bible says the anti-christ will be a good talker whom everyone seems to love, and promises to unite, but in the end will destroy (sort of a Stalin-ish character). Sound like Obama?(I'm not endorsing a religious arguement, nor am I trying to ignite some religious crusade against Obama, just digging deeper into that train of thought)

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Most of that doesn't actually appear in the Bible, it's one of those things that gets attributed to it, but isn't actually in it.  There's a chapter in Rev. that can be interpreted that way, but it's a bit of a stretch.  Regardless, that should make the Bible thumpers super-extra-happy, that means the end times are coming and they all get to be whisked away into the sky.  Good luck with that. 

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I guess if video games were censored us PS3 owners can just import the uncensored copies from Europe.

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Honestly, I feel that no matter which of the two main candidates win the election, there is no way in hell they could do a worse job than Bush. Every time I see that man he comes off a bumbling fool. He always seems nervous too, like people are going to figure out he can't read or something. Both of the presidential candidates look like shining beacons of hope and intelligence when compared to our current leader.   

Yep.

True dat.

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Well, it's nice that he's sensible about videogames, but I'm against pretty much everyting else he's about. If Hillary had won the democratic seat, I would have supported her over McCain, despite the fact that she's a total bitch. In the end, I can live without games, but with the way the econemy is going, and the price of gas and all the other problems we have, videogames are not that important in comparrison. But again, I must stress, if Jesse Ventura chooses to jump in at the lat minute, I'll support him.

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EDIT: Oh, and I aknowledge that a person's stance on the first amendment is important, and that first amendment rights are perhaps the most important rights of all. Huh...actually...I think I might have supported McCain over Hillary after all... hey, has McCain's stance on gun controll changed, or is he still claiming to be a conservative whilst trying to dismantle the second amendment?

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

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I'm all for games being left alone,but we have WAY bigger things to worry about.

I'm not trying to flame up the server,and I know I'll sound like a bad gamer,but I've just about stoped caring about what our candidates will do to games.

It's definitely one of the farthest thing from my mind when I think about our candidates.

 

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I agree with you for the most part, but where a candidate stands on video game censorship is a good indication of where they stand on other First Amendment rights. McCain not taking a populist stance and advocating government regulation of content is a pretty good indication that he isn't going to walk all over the first amendment. This is one of the biggest worries I've had about him, so this is a really good sign.


I agree that there are a lot of other important issues, but where a candidate stands on the First Amendment is pretty important in my book. I'm also for smaller government and bureaucracy in general, so it's a good thing there too.

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@ArchRanger

Hmm,I never thought of it like that.

Well,I'm a Libertarian,so the Constitution is pretty important to me.

It's just,it almost seems people on this site are more concerned about games being censored than winning the War in Iraq,or freeing us from foreign energy dependence,or resurrecting the falling dollar.

Games are important,but I'd rather games be censored than have to tongue polish a statue of Osama bin-Laden on the White House front lawn.

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I'd like to point out that games are one of the few things we still make in this country, so that would make them an economical issue too.

 

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Umm.

 

http://www.thetanooki.com/2007/12/14/obama-speaks-on-video-game-censorship/

 

Read that and tell me Obama doesn't want to regulate the industry.

 

 

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Sound perfectly reasonable of Obama to say the governement must step in if the industry can't police itself.  That goes for anything else that needs regulation...medicine, food, guns, whatever.

The people who freak out about video games here in the US are american citizens too..and they are legion. The government should not just pander to one side of the issue and ignore concerns of the other. It's our politicians job to answer those concerns and act upon them...even if they don't agree. In the end its about solutions...the right solutions, and the lawmakers that decide them.

You see whay bugs me about people who complain about regulation is they don't bother when it's in their favor.  What if govenrment passed a bunch of laws protecting video game companies from lawyer lawsuits blaming them for violent acts.  Improbable yes..but I'm sure most gamers would not object...and say the gov is doing its job..blah blah.

Nothing is really wrong with government regulation and bigger government if it's done right. I mean take credit cards and student loans for instance. No government regulation (or little of) on that...and check out those illogical interest rates, finance charges and hidden charges. Maybe the gov should have stepped in early and stopped the mortgage crisis before it got too big (banks lending money to people who clearly cant afford to pay back the money after rates rise)....It's not like nobody didnt see that coming. And gas prices...yikes...I suppose we could just leave it to the oil companies to self police that shit...because they have done such a fantastic (sarcasm) so far. And the pharmicutical industry...yeeeeah..nuff said.

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What he says in that interview is leave it up to parents.

He also says some investigation needs to be done as to the effect of Computer Games on children, personally, I think he's taking too narrow a scope in his position, as research into all media would be wiser.

I wonder how many people consider that life is 'no longer worth living' and that humanity is 'worthless' purely because 95% of all news items on TV make you see the worst of humanity.

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Maybe we can get the two of the to have a debate Halo-style One-on-One with Snipers and Shottys.

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McCain's pretty famous ofr just saying whatever the hell he thinks the audience wants to hear.

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Hi, welcome to politics, Obama does the same thing.

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Re: John McCain's Video Game Platform: Small Blogger Scores

Too true!.If you go to Crook and Lairs.com, you will see that he makes the news quite often with his ever changing opinion.

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It's good to see that both Obama (who mentioned he was against regulation awhile back) and McCain are against government regulations on Free Speech. Clinton was the only real nanny-statist in the running and she is out now. Thank God!

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I was considering Obama, but this is giving me pause. I'd like to vote Libertarian, but they really don't have a shadow of a hope, and more and more it seems like McCain is against government intervention into personal lives(A lot of Libertarians fall under the Republican party, maybe the campaigning for Ron Paul had an effect on the party line? A good thing, either way.), which is making him more and more attractive for the role. He still has a lot to prove though, at this point the election still seems like a choice over which amendment you'd rather have ignored.

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" ....at this point the election still seems like a choice over which amendment you'd rather have ignored."

That's the sad goddamn truth.

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At least it's not quite like the last couple elections, which have been the lesser of two evils.  This on'es more like the better of two mediocres.  Be a good reason to get out of the house on a Tuesday though.

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I have to agree, they're not as bad as Kerry and Bush, but not the greatest. My vote is based on who will do the least damage to our already unstable nation. We're dangerously teetering on censorship and full government control of our lives, thanks to Bush and Congress (they are to blame as well, they had to vote for the laws for Bush to sign them). That being said, its hard to judge what Obama will do, McCain is more of a libertarian than a Republican, which is why he is an outcast in his party, so good for him.

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I hate to dissapoint you but he is a republican in disquise.  He failed to support the new GI bill that would give the troops more benifits and finachal support when they get out. He is a fool to not realize that diplomacie can work as it did in the cuban missal crises. He claimed to support legislation that would help katrina victims and suport investigating the fema fiasco but turns around and does the opposite when he could vote on such issues.  He even claims on meet the press that he suports many bush policies. go to Crooks and Liars.com to see more of his hypocrocies in the news.

 

here is video about what you get when you vote republican.

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@StealthKnight WOW lets not give facts or anything. He is not support that GI Bill, because he has his own. It's your call on witch one you think it better.

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HAHAHAHA!

Right-wing folks think McCain is a Liberal, Left-wing loonies (like you, I guess) think he's voting for 4 more years of Bush.  Both positions are just plain ashattery.  Wake up people, it's not Red vs. Blue.

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We'd be better off if this was Red vs. Blue. Vote for Sarge!

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Indeed, at least Hillary is out of it, since she would have ignored at least half of the Amendments when it suited her and probably would have repealed the 22nd Amendment, or have herself declared Queen/Empress, ect.

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It is interesting that he seemed to want to "change the channel" rather quickly after he answered.  Maybe he just didn't want his fax machine murdered by JT?  Who knows.

I am rather surprised by his answer.  With his stance on many other issues I didn't take him as being one who felt regulation of video games was up to the parents.  Interesting.  Maybe he's simply seen how the courts have ruled that games are protected under the 1st ammendment?  It would be interesting to have him give his reasons behind his answer.

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If I had to bet I'd say he's simply not concerned with the issue. And why should this surprise you? He's considered an outcast in his own party.

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I just think it's because he's not well versed on the issue. He looked somewhat confused when I started asking him the question and brought up certain video games that have been criticized. Although afterwards I had a few people from the audience say they thought that I asked him good questions (my other one, also in the post, was on the media's treatment of him in the campaign), and one person said to me, "I bet you no one else has ever asked him a question about video games."

And I found the headline here amusing, just because of the use of the word "Scoop" -- my legitimate nickname from college that I've been using as a handle since then.

 

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Obama is fine with how the video game industry is handing itself. Hillary is pro government censorship and regulation of content and distrobution of games to "Save the childrens".

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It's refreshing to see such a big-name politician endursing common sense.  Kudos to the blogger who actually got to pose a question on an important video game directly to a presidental hopeful.

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Common sense and john mcain are not two things I'd associate together.

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I'll take it a step further, common sense and politicians have nnot gone hand and hand together for at least a century in the United States.

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Well that's one I suppose I can give the guy.

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Is that the way the question was worded when asked to him though?

I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but that question's wording is baited to be answered in that way, regardless of the actual standing of the candidate on the game legislation issue.

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That is the truncated question. The way the question was worded was more along the lines of explaining the history of why I was asking the question (I even brought up the controversy over "GTA IV"), as well as bringing up the fact that some states are trying to enact legislation to make it a criminal offense to sell M or AO rated games to kids.

I will say, though, that I still find the transition into child porn odd.

Child Porn=Video games

to people who don't understand video games and the culture around it all seems dirty. And whats the dirtiest thing you can think of....................................................  KIDDIE PORN

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Plus GTA4 is generally referenced by its opponents as pornography being sold to children. I'm not sure if thats what he got it from but it would make some sense (even if it isn't true).

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Glad to see John is for parental control on video games and not government control. But I'm still going to vote for Obama.

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So you're glad to see a candidate leaving things to parental control, but will vote for someone who wants to let the government control more aspects of our life?

/boggle

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