Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

June 26, 2008 -

Yesterday it was Connecticut State Senator Gayle Slossberg (D) fretting about a non-existent rape scene in GTA IV.

Today, police in Nassau County, New York allege that six teenagers charged with robbing a man at a supermarket were emulating Grand Theft Auto:

Nassau County police cops have arrested six teens for robbing a man at a supermarket... The police add the teens arrested were emualting [sic] the characters from the video game Grand Theft Auto.

 

Police say later that night they were armed with bats and a crowbar and were walking down Stewrt Ave. when they robbed a woman of cigarettes and struck a passing van with a bat.

GP: The kid has a Red Hot Chili Peppers t-shirt on. Maybe he was imitating them...

Thanks to GamePolitics correspondent Colin "Jabrwock" McInnes for the heads-up.

UPDATE: Newsday has more on the GTA angle, including a quote from Nassau County P.D. Det. Sgt. Anthony Repalone:

It was determined that they were emulating the character in that Grand Theft Auto game, going on a crime spree...  We got certain admissions.

UPDATE: According to the NY Post, the kids were specifically imitating GTA IV protagonist Nico Bellic. The paper quotes Nassau County Police Detective Lt. Raymond Cote:

They decided they were going to go out to commit robberies and emulate the [lead] character Nico Belic [sic] in the particularly violent video game Grand Theft Auto... These teens have difficulty separating fact from fiction, fantasy from reality . . . It was quite alarming... They were bored and they decided this was a good idea.

The Post adds:

Police would not say specifically how they knew that the teens crimes were motivated by Grand Theft Auto, and not by some other motive. They said they discovered it during their investigation.

 


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Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

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if i get shot by the cops and die ill be all right i respawn at the hosptail like nothing happened.what fucking dumb fucks.

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Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Oh christ, from reading this, I can tell someone paid them, I mean, sersiously, just look at it. It just looks so god damn obvious.

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Its been a little while since I played GTAIV, and I'm relatively sure that there is no point where you get a crowbar. I'm also pretty sure you can't hold random passerbys up.

I just have one question about this whole thing. Why the hell are the police providing them with an alibi? When you prosecute someone, you try to prove it was their intent, not that they were inspired by a video game.

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Seems to me the Police are being unneccesarily vague about this, I can't help but be suspicious.


 

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Question?  What were 14 and 15 year olds doing on the streets at 11:30 at night?  At that age, my parents would have given me the beating of my life for hanging out on the streets and not being at home at that time.  Even when I got my license at 16 I had a 11p curfew.  It didn't get kicked up another 2 hours until the 2nd half of my 17yo year.

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The more reports we read about this, the more likely it is BS on the Police's side.

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Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

why does "we got certain admissions" sound like "we threatened and coerced these kids into saying what we wanted to hear"?

the Inquisition got "certain admissions" too.

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Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

MSNBC just did a report on this with video from san andreas and hot coffee playing on screen. the sensationalist media strikes again.

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Yeah.  Yahoo!News reported on it as well.  Sounds like the MSM is eating this one up.  Cue JT appearance in 3...2...1...

You know though, if GTA didn't exist, what else would these kids have used to inspire their deliquency?  What else could the police have blamed it on?  From all accounts, these kids are just your typical neighborhood miscreants.  It's been said before, but it bears repeating: if a kid is messed-up to begin with, anything could be a trigger to violent and antisocial behavior.  If it wasn't GTA, it would have been a movie, song or TV show.  Take your pick of the choices.  The true cause once again points to broken homes and bad/ineffectual parenting.

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"Police say later that night they were armed with bats and a crowbar and were walking down Stewrt Ave. when they robbed a woman of cigarettes and struck a passing van with a bat."

To me, that actually sounds more like A Clockwork Orange. Maybe they should blame Stanley Kubrick.

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http://news.spong.com/article/15657/GTA_IV_Inspired_Mob_to_Crime_Spree

According to a report in News Day, "The teens told detectives they were imitating the Grand Theft Auto video game series".

"Police would not say specifically how they knew that the teens crimes were motivated by Grand Theft Auto, and not by some other motive. They said they discovered it during their investigation."

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Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

and how did they link this to a game?.. there all disillusional.. i dont recall being able to rob shops since GTA4 you cant rob granny's and i dont remember anyone putting on masks and a crobar in GTA

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Scapegoat loving media at it best  "blame something else besides the childs up bringing, parents, peers, music, videos, CHOICES, influences, school...Other stuff

 

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Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Certain admissions? I have to call BS on that one. "Hey kid, have you played GTA4 recently?"

also, it says they were charges as adults. If they are adults, that should excempt them from this argument that "GTA4 is bad for kids"

Teenage crimes and violence has been happening for a long time before GTA came out. GTA was inspired by crime and violence in the real world, not vice versa.

If these kids were smart, they would claim that it was inspired by a lack of video games. That if only they had some sort of way to simulate the rush of violence and petty crimes without actually doing it...

Hammering it home.

Violence also existed before movies, music, television, radio, comics, books in general, dancing, the written alphabet, and civilization. PEOPLE ARE THE PROBLEM!!!!!

-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

You know what, that's the biggest problem with society today, too many people are quick to blame video games for our problems, but it's apparently never the parent's or the kids fault when the reasons are very obvious.  Also, some of the police officers in the world have actually been proven to be corrupted from taking bribes, to actually breaking the law themselves, so unless the person has a good background, I just ignore the police statements until I get the facts straight.  That being said, I would like to get a news flash out to all the Jack Thompsons, mass media heads(with the exception of a few), and the soccor moms of the world.  VIDEO GAMES ARE A FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT, NOTHING ELSE.  THE DAY THAT IT ACTUALLY DOES IS THE DAY I MAGICALLY GROW A SIXTH TOE.

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

You're going to grow a 6th toe when you're entertained by a game?

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If those cops were working in my town, they'd be out of a job in under ten minutes.  If they cant tell the kid's (read: soon-to-be-in-prisoners) motive, beyond GTA, they really are a pack of morons.  I normally give cops the benefit of the doubt on 'education' and 'common sense'.

The kids doing this, can think anything they want.  The end result is battery charges in at least two instnaces with a deadly weapon (er....weapons).  Those are felony charges.  They want to start their life in the slammer because they are to stupid to think up something then "we saw it in GTA and thought it was the morally correct and intelligent thing to do.".

Wow.

Wow. Your town has standards? Shit dude, that just blows my friggin' mind...

 

-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block and Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, a book by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Makes sense, I mean after the great Jay-walking catastrophe shortly after the release of Frogger.

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

...or the abrupt cardboard box crunch of the late 90s after MGS came out.

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Adn the great Horse Theft plague that followed the release of Oblivion.

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

So does this game blame thing cover everything dodgy or just violent crimes? For example that new england patriots coach who "misinterpreted the rules", was he cheating or was he influenced by the cheats in madden?

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Cops, during questioning: So... You kids... Like video games?

Kid: What? We just wanted money and kicks!

Cops: Are you SURE? You haven't been playing anything VIOLENT

Kid: Well, I got halo..

Cop, interrupting: How about Grand Theft Auto

Kid, catching on: Oh, uh... Yes! Yes, lots of grand theft auto. It makes me want to run around and beat things! I love beating up hookers! Also, old ladies when I can't find any.

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

so they were emulating GTAIV by going on a crime spree?  whatever,  they might as well blame it on the movie "Heat"

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Its also very annoying that these fuck-tards still can't get the name of the game right. Its just Gta 4, there's no Liberty City in it.

The article also states that you get points for murder and other crimes in the game. While you do get money, its not the same thing as points seeing as how their is no high score. There's also a ranking in the pause screen, but I highly doubt thats going to give someone incentive to murder.

Besides, One was 18, isn't that old enough to were people should realize that adults his age don't emulate everything they see?

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Anyone over the age of about twelve has no business imitating anything. Where are these bitches parents? Why didn't they teach them not to be little shitheads?

-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block and Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, a book by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

ATTENTION DUMBASSES: READ MY SIG!

-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block and Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, a book by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

well its officall now the term would be used in situation when teens and adult commit a crime

 

the word is "blame the game"

 

not durgs nor sociaty not even peers and films.

 

blame the game.

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Actually, the kids may very well have been emulating GTA. You can emulate anything if you CHOOSE to do so. Nothing made these little bitches do anything.

-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block and Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, a book by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Silly cops!

They were using baseball bats and crowbars!

They were clearly imitating the Scout from Team Fortress 2, and Gordon Freeman from Half Life, both of them created by VALVe!

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

As a Long Islander myself I know that there are only two things that are from Nassau County.

A community college that has homicide go on all the time and idiot cops who blame Grand Theft Auto for crime.

 

And if they were emulating GTA then wouldn't they have known about the crime when that stupid star meter went off?

 

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Anyone else think that poll at the bottom of the story is biased? 2 out of the 3 options are essentially "hurr vidya games are bad hurr" and the way the common sense option is worded in such a way that it makes us sound like we're still in the wrong. Why can't we get a simple yes/no poll these days that doesn't attempt to twist our words?

P.S Probably a bad idea to put a poll like that on the internet (our playground), at last count smart people were leading 118 to 20

 

Do videogames makes kids

Do videogames makes kids evil, or do they not not make kids evil? Or do they make kids super duper evil?

 

-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block and Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, a book by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

"Certain admissions"? What does that mean? That they didn't outright say that but the officer decided to derive such from their statements?

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

"Certain admissions?"

They probably decided they could get away with a lighter punishment if they blamed a video game. Not like young people don't know about all the controversy surrounding them these days. 

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I hope that everyone is voting in that poll at the end of the story.

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Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

I gotta wonder if "certain admissions" really means "We asked if they had ever played any GTA game and they said yes."?

Honestly it just doesn't make sense. Why is it always emulating something from a game? It's not like crimes, shootings, etc. never happened before there were videogames. And in most (if not all) cases any connection to videogames is tenuous at best. Why does that fact always seem to be omitted?

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'It was determined that they were emulating the character in that Grand Theft Auto game, going on a crime spree...  We got certain admissions.

Certain admissions... Why does that set my 'targetted questioning' alarm off?

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I really hope for the love of god that this effects nothing in how these kids are handled as criminals. Or heck put them into a really nice mental institution for a few years then if their grasp on reality is so light that they felt they should go try and do what they did in the game.

Seriously this is right up there with sewing yourself a superman cape and leaping of a roof expecting to fly. Is it the comic's fault the kid became road pizza? No. Not in the slightest. It's his parents or hey, maybe even his own fault that he was so delusional as to think he could pull that off.

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Teens like to have fun, they feel invulnerable and like to challenge authority. I'd be inclined to say that even if games like GTA hadn't evisted crime might have happened nonetheless since crime and vandalism have existed prior to GTA. 

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I object..they were palying cops and robbers :P

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Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Also, since when do the cops provide suspects with a legal strategy for defense? o_0;

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

''To Protect and Serve''

Loop holes -_-

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

since they realized that the legal "strategy" doesnt work =p

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

I think the cops are more obsessed with the game than the teens are. They see a robbery and all of a sudden -click- wow just like GTA. I know those are great games, but the cops need to put down the controller a bit more ;)

Re: Cops Say Teens Were Emulating GTA in Robbery Spree...

Rob a supermarket with bats? huh... guess i missed that mission >.>

 
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