If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does it Make a Sound?

June 28, 2008 -

GamePolitics reported on a pair of tempests involving Grand Theft Auto IV this week.

First came Wednesday's report on shoot-from-the-lip comments attributed to Connecticut State Sen. Gayle Slossberg (D), who apparently used the terms Grand Theft Auto IV, rape, legislation and sociopaths [as in GTA gamers are...] in a rant that she only thought was off-the-record.

Oops...

A day later, cops in Nassau County, New York busted six teenagers for a bat-swinging, crowbar-wielding rampage that one of them apparently said was inspired by Nico Bellic, protagonist of GTA IV.

The week's happenings - in particular their sizeable publicity potential - were not lost on GTA-hatin' attorney Jack Thompson, who has waded into both situations with press releases blazing.

First, Thompson dashed off a breathless paean to Sen. Slossberg:

I commend you for your concerns about the Grand Theft Auto games.  I have been on 60 Minutes about the killing of police officers by teens who train on the game to do so.  I have addressed NOW in New York about the targeting of women by the game.
 
I do not believe there is a "rape" in the game, unless it is in a mission that has yet been discovered (that is possible), but there is plenty in the game by way of forced sex, killing of women after sex, and murdering police officers that must be addressed.  I am, for better or worse, the leader of the effort against this game, and if you saw the New York Post yesterday, a gang of teens went on a crime spree on Long Island in acting out the game!  Please contact me asap, and I can help on this.
 

Miami Jack, please explain how there is no rape in the game, but there is "forced sex"?

The likely-to-be-disbarred barrister also weighed in on the Nassau Six, cc'ing GP on an exchange with someone at G4TV. Not surprisingly, the camera-cravin' Thompson hopes to grab some air time for his mug:

...G4TV, as usual, gets it wrong.  Why am I not suprised?  The headline on this story is ridiculous.  The "hoods" are not the ones blaming the game.  The cops are!  Note this from Detective Cote: "These teens have difficulty separating fact from fiction, fantasy from reality . . . It was quite alarming." 

 

...Thus, Cote has handed all of the defendants a "video game defense."  It will be used.  How do I know?  Wouldn't you like to know.
 
I think it is time for Jack Thompson to be back on G4TV, don't you all think.  There's so much disinformation on the channel and so little time to correct it all.  Somebody tell Kevin to get off his lazy butt and give me a call...  
 
 

 


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Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

I'd suggest leaving the festival alone really.  By and large I wouldn't even consider it news, if they want to trash their own credibility, well, there's nothing wrong with that now is there?  I feel sorry for the guy that got shot down in vietnam to get his award,  probably would've been easier to just be a jerk to a bunch of people he doesn't know!

Anyone capable of putting the numbers together, can clearly see that the award is meaningless.  Let him have his fun. As far as "wait till you see what comes out of nassau".  ooo_ I'm positively breathless with anticipation.  Is this like when you "had a surprise" for Judge Tunis?  You gonna walk out of Nassau?

 

 

"Even if it was online gaming that somehow inspired him to kill his parents, he must have realised at some point that they wouldn't drop any good loot." - GP member, Doomsong

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

We all know jack-jack is full of it, why would a group honoring him (unrelated to his generous donation) be any less?

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

I would agree except that it is supported by the US government through, at the least, the Department of Defense.  A clear violation of the US Constitution and the First Amendment.  While it isn't respecting one religion over another by creating a law, it is giving specific religious beliefs support.

The KKK, Fred Phelps, The Racists Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, and any number of other segregationists and hate mongers are welcome to promote their own version of "Patriotism" through Festivals and marches all they want.  That's their Right under the Constitution.  But the government should not be involving itself in support of one religious organization or belief, as clearly the Freedom Festival (proven by its present and past events and past award winners) has been shown to be.

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Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

I wonder... Would anyone be interested in contributing to a fund to place an ad in the Miami Herald (

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Im down for that.

At the end of the day as long as it is only a page filled with facts, we arent doing anything wrong!

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

I kinda like it, a list of quotes with references to show that they're outright lies.

I do agree that he's gone on far too long. He's much like Family Guy, really funny for the first 2 seasons then it rapidly went downhill till now I'm sick to death of it.

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

I think it is time for Jack Thompson to be back on G4TV, don't you all think.  There's so much disinformation on the channel and so little time to spread more of it.  Somebody tell Kevin to get off his lazy butt and give me a call... 

Fixed.

JT is the primary source of misinformation (or disinformation, as he puts it, lol)

-- mostly harmless

mostly harmless

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Once again the Anti-First Amendment Expert, John Bruce "Jack" Thompson, seeks to abuse, lie, deceive, and terrorize families, communities, and cities who have, in some form or another, suffered some form of tragedy.  It is not a surprise that this obscene, perverse little man would, once again, set out to deceive the general public as well as law enforcement regarding a particular event all for hte purpose of furthering his religious-based Anti-First Amendment agenda in an effort to create a theocratic dictatorship.

Harsh extreme words?  Yet, once one gathers together all the evidence, the proof is there by his own words and actions.

It is, in fact, more than likely that the claim of GTA being an influence in any way, shape, or form was actually implied by John Bruce himself.  Either by his direct contact with law enforcement to make the false claim, thereby interferring with a proper and legal investigation, his having influcenced law enforcement through prior acts of lies and deceit, yet again interferring with a proper and legal investigation, having illegal contact with the defendants, thereby interferring with suspects and testimony, or having contact with defense and/or prosecution, either initiated by him or them as with the law enforcement, also an attempt to unethically manipulate the investigation and case.

Perhaps it is time to show John Bruce just how far this "blame <fill in the blank>" can truly go.  Perhaps it's time to show him just how it really, truly, feels to be seen as a threat to the physical, mental, and/or sexual well being of others, most notablly children, even if you really aren't.  Maybe it is time to have the government "protect the children" from something really, truly harmful to others.  And since the government cannot respect the Rights of one group over another, then EVERYONE should suffer for the actions of a few.

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Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

By Thompson logic, with how much Guitar Heor I've palyed, I should be the next Darrell Abbot. Not that he knows who that is.

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

And I should be a deadly deadly stealth ops killing machine. Alas, not so much.

 

-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Thompson+logic = oxymoron. If he had a lick of sense to his name he wouldn't leave a swath of pissed-off judges in his wake, not to mention get himself sanctioned by the florida supreme court.

"Even if it was online gaming that somehow inspired him to kill his parents, he must have realised at some point that they wouldn't drop any good loot." - GP member, Doomsong

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

God damn, Jack, is it all you can do say, "...just wait..."? So far as I can tell everyone that knows you has been waiting. Cry, "Wolf" much?

 

. . Wisdom begins in wonder. - Socrates . .

. . Wisdom begins in wonder. - Socrates . .

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Y'know, intelligent conversations are wasted on someone as stupid and stubborn as JT. I feel as though I should fight immaturity with immaturity...

 

-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

I feel as though I should fight immaturity with immaturity...

 

Naaa, what you really want to do is troll him by speaking the truth.

It feels sooo satisfying when he actually replies to you, but not to whatever point or question you brought up.  It is obvious it the truth pisses him off, and it must be eating him up inside when he can't even defend his flawed reasoning.  Thus I would not be surprised if the few times he does reply to such comments it is in a fit of RAGE!

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

JT referring to himself in the 3rd person to get a spot in G4TV? Too bad getting kicked out of the Florida Bar didn't knock him down a peg or two.

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Anyone else get the feeling that 90% of Jack's day is looking for people talking about him on blogs all day?

JT

I reccomend he take up pottery.

 

-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Oh this is nothing - wait until after his disbarment, right now he still thinks he's Jack Thompson, attorney.  Fast forward and it's going to Jack Thompson, martyr.  Truth be told I wouldn't have it any other way. Sure, he's about as incredibly annoying as they come, but at least he won't be flagrantly abusing the court system for his own ends anymore. I suggest a new moniker.  Jack Thompson, internet troll.

 

"Even if it was online gaming that somehow inspired him to kill his parents, he must have realised at some point that they wouldn't drop any good loot." - GP member, Doomsong

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Nah, I like "piece of shit" better.  Straight and to the point.

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

He'll stil try to use the court system as his personal rocket launcher[he tries to go for maximum, while stnading dierectly nextot his target] he'll just have a harder time doing it.

 

As for how he paints himself. I actually hope he still calls himself an attorney and tries to represent people. I'd love to see him try to defend it.

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Remember him back in the Live Journal days?

Before Dennis got his own site and could perm-ban him, Jack spent a good amount of his time trolling and posting his usual garbage.  Considering someone pointed out his home is his "office" and it wasn't legal to have a PO Box address for such, I wouldn't be surprised if it has been since about the early 2000s....

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Don't forget all the time he evaded the bans with, what was it, over 65 different accounts?

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Yeah but for snail mail? isn't that a little bit crazy?

Wait........I forgot.................... Jack Thompson

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Wait so where does he get  his mail? I've got two addresses for him here and they're fairly close to each other.

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Dear Jack Thompson,

Could you explain to me why you and most everybody else is focusing on an issue that is entirely dependant upon one's own views of video-games (what they accomplish... etc) instead of focusing on the core problems such as: lack of proper schooling and education as well lack of proper parental guidence. 

I'm sure we can all agree that the (so called) problems with videogames is due to a lack of understanding on key issues that preceed videogames. 

For example:  Its not a huge leep in faith (or logic) to assume that the majority of parents buy video-game consoles and games for their children as to give them something to do that keeps them pre-occupied and out of trouble.  Unfortunately due to the rising costs to support oneself, as well as other economic factors outside of our control, the majority of parents generally slave away at their jobs just to break even, and usually they don't want the extra hassle of 'playing' with their children when they get home from a long day of work, they'd rather relax.  Bad parenting?  You should ask all the parents whom you've entered converstations with concerning video-games what they feel about this.  That is to say, nobody will ever admit to being a bad parent, however..

In all honesty, I would be more concerned about the rising under-age drinking and smoking then to worry about video-games 'warping' the minds of children/teen's that have probably already been altered by the amount of television and/or lack of social guidence from their peers or parents when growing up.  I'd be more concerned with the bullying going on inschools that would push a child/teen to murder people.

And lastly, I feel you should be directing your ire towards the movie industry instead, as real life actors play-acting somebody else tend to be more 'realistic' towards people then say, a computer-generated polygon character.  You have more people mimicing Tony Montana ("Say hallo to mah little friend") then you do of people mimicing Neko Bellic. 

Yours truly,

Anonymous

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

(Replying to my own post, I'll make a name when I get home.. at work currently)

Dear Jack Thompson,

It is with extreme heartache that I come back to witness that you have no replied to my post in due time.  Whatever your reason is, I respect that.  All I would like is to have a discussion with you regarding all the past topics that you have touched on. 

Yours truly,

Anonymous

Name?

Seriously, that was too good for you to get mixed in with the other anons. You should at least have a cool screen name. I reccomend calling yourself Quarter, in reference to the scene in No Country for Old Men (spoiler) where Anton Su'gur is gonna kill this guy based on the outcome of a coin toss, and tells the guy not to put the quarter in his pocket because it could get mixed with the others and lose it's value.(end spoilers)

 

-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Name?

Dude, that's the whole point of Anton Shugir.  He kills people based on fate, and the instrument for fate is the change in his pocket.  Read the book; there's a real sense of the good, the bad, and the normal to the whole thing.  Anton was obviously bad, the Sheriff was good, and Llewlyn was just an ordinary man in an extraordianry situation.

Anton Shugir's M.O. is that fate determines everyone's life; he constantly talks about it.  When he mentions the road that people traveled to get where they are, the rules they followed, the decisions they made, but still leaves their life and death up to a coin toss?  That's the craziest version of fate I've ever seen.

 

Having said that, this was a pretty good post for an anon.

 

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Actually Jack, I don't wish I knew what you knew. I don't really give a shit, because you see I have a life beyond this "OMG Video games are teh evil" debate. I bet you wish you knew what that was like.

Re: Jack Thompson can't live without GTAIV or any "violent" game

Jack Thompson is living proof that when the aliens look for intelligent life on Earth, they look at morons like Jack, Fred Phleps, and the Parent Trash Cult, and they determine that no intelligent life can be found.

Considering that most of the politicans in and around "The Rotten Apple" whined, pissed, and moaned about GTAIV, it looks fishy that a group of morons would "blame" GTAIV(and that the cops would encourage this excuse).

Jack, practice what you preach: Grow up and get a life, loser.

Re: Jack Thompson can't live without GTAIV or any "violent" game

Considering if aliens did visit earth openly these would be some of the first people to either try to convert them to their fake version of christianity or advocate blowing them all to hell.

Re: Jack Thompson can't live without GTAIV or any "violent" game

The aliens would blow those people to hell before they could even advocate the same.

Re: Jack Thompson can't live without GTAIV or any "violent" game

the fact that they already haven't must indicate that any visits within the past 50 years must have been peaceful, or at the very least, unarmed scouting missions.

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Jack Thompson can't live without GTAIV or any "violent" game

Considering that there were a few crashes(Roswell 1948; Kecksberg 1960's), I lean towards the unarmed scouting missions theory.

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

I want him to go back on G4 just so I can see the jerk get his ass handed to him even worse. They'd have alot more to work with.

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Of course there's a difference between rape and forced sex, sillies! Forced sex is when a good Evangelical man gently and lovingly exerts his authority over a rebellious wife to make her submit to her rightful use. Just ask anyone who has ever been featured on Fundies Say the Darnest Things.

Anyway boy is he sounding battier than ever. And it makes it okay if the cops are blaming a video game and not the kids? Is he saying the kids never even mentioned it and the cops are just assuming they're motivated by video games because people like Jack Thompson have put the idea in their heads? And tha'ts... uh... a good thing?

 

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

I paid the cop to say this?

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Jack paid Cote to give them a videogame defense. "Make sure to tell them they can get off the hook if they take the videogame defense." Jack tried the same thing for Cody Posey.

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

Dennis, either take that post down, or send me your lawyer's name, because you're going to need her.

Jack Thompson

 

 

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Look Thompson, you can't stick your nose into a PUBLIC forum and not expect a comment like this. People do not like you. As a result they are likely to say things like this. Although I would expect the same childish reaction if you heard somebody say that as you were passing by in a crowded PUBLIC space. And anyway, unless I'm wrong; what Kincyr said is personal opinion/speculation.

Here's some more speculation:

"I'll bet you masterbate more than anybody on the planet, and when you're doing it; you're thinking about guys."

True? Probably not. Worth any lawyers time? (you wont be a lawyer for long, and you'll need one to press charges for these "slanderous" comments) NO.

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

and to add to that, Mr Thompson...

We don't like you not because you're a Christian

We don't like you because you're a compulsive liar yet calls yourself a Christian...

hey, maybe it's your 2nd amendments right to do just that

but if so, then it's our 2nd amendment right to hate you as well.

 

Chirst like you ain't!

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Being Christian and hating people is the same as the right to bear arms?

-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Actually being christian and hating people is quite natural, christians just disguse hatred as love. "Love the sinner, hate the sin" approach. It's a loophole these people have invented, a way to hate people indirectly.

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Dennis is in no way incilpated in said made up legal reasoning. There is no way he could, even if you actually had any reason at all to threaten Kincyr with your ever fleeting legal career.

Jack Thompson likes to dress up like a girl, drive around in an unmarked van and bring small children back to his basement.

Can you sue me too now? Please?

-"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." -Sir Winston Churchill

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

well id like to say

Jack thompson downloads 3LiveCrue songs of the internet, his favorite is Cop Killa. Also he runs red lights and comits other, strangly hillarious crimes

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

I'd liek to say that JACK THOMPSON SODOMIZES GIRAFFES AND HE LIEKS MUDKIPZ.

By the way Mr Jackass Thompson, as a public figure you are open for satire.  You can't do a damn thing.  Kindly go fuck yourself with a spoon, as you make us real republicans look bad, as well as making real Chrsitians look bad.

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

LOL, now I am reminded of that whole "the combined message is that Jack Thompson is a bisexual pedophile" bit for GTA LCS...

Of course we all know how well things went his way with that bit of "libel."

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

"Dennis, either take that post down, or send me your lawyer's name, because you're going to need her."

Dont' try it Jack.  It'll just be another mark in the "Lose" column for you.  I believe that websites like this one are fully protected under the Communications Decency Act.  Not surprised though that you tried to strongarm Dennis yet again, nor am I surprised that you did it in such a transparently inept way.

The CDA defense was just recently used yet again to avoid sue-age (pronounced "sewage", which is what I'd equate Jack's litigation to):

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080627-car-dealership-sues-consum...

Careful though Kincyr, Jack may come after you (laf)...

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

"Dennis, either take that post down, or send me your lawyer's name, because you're going to need her."

Looks like I hit the bulls-eye! Also, learn to use the "Reply" link.

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Yet again he shows his hypocricy, he can libel/slander anyone he wants as much as he wants, but HOW DARE YOU DO IT TO HIM!

Also again, here he is threatening legal action over something that one would know not to bother as it would easily get thrown out.  The requirements & burden of proof for libel & slander are much higher, and like usual his SLAPPing over such a minor comment doesn't make him look good....

Seriously, all I have had is a business law class, and yet I can see him frequently making basic mistakes and really dumb decisions.

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

LOL! watch out JTs head will explode he cant understand the concept of an internet forum.

Dennis is NOT responsible for everything every single person posts on here Jack. This forum operates in the same way as 99% of the other billion forums on the internet, with the universally accepted method of allowing users to post anything, and then a moderator at some point will clean up those posts that are deemed rude or offensive.

If you want to threaten anyone threaten the poster not dennis. One man cant physically trawl EVERY post in every thread instantly and remove all ofensive posts. If you went to court with the position that Dennis should be omniscient then you would be laughed out.

Sorry.. Sorry, correction, i meant when you get somebody ELSE to go to court for you.. sorry.. didnt mean to misrepresent the truth, dont sue me for making out like you are a lawyer who has a long and successful legal career ahead of him. You are 100% a failure with likely disbarrment heading tpoward them. Is that better? Probably best that start now using other representatives, because it maaaaaaay take a LONG time to find somebody willing to take the case on.

 

Re: If There's a GTA IV Controversy WITHOUT Jack Thompson, Does

Youve got my support jack, how dare these people show the great and powerfull Jack Thompson disrespect, and how dare they mock you  braveness.

 

JK, seriously jack your starting to give me a headache. By the way, have you ever herd about the freedom of speach, that person said their opinion which goes against you, guess what, thats their right as an american.

Why cant you go die in the corner, you used to be funny, with your silly lies and your lousy interviewing. But now its gotten pathetic, why cant you just admit that your a waste of air

 
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