June 30, 2008
...the one in which GP explains why the video game bill passed in New York last week is all bark and no bite.
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GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
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Zen: http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20130614/OFFDUTY02/306140030/New-Xbox-sin-against-all-service-members-06/18/2013 - 7:33pm
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Zen: Been out for a few days, but has anyone brought up the possible ban on Xbox One on military bases because of security concerns that it could be a listening device by Commanders?06/18/2013 - 7:33pm
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Andrew Eisen: Sleaker - Fixed.06/18/2013 - 6:34pm
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MechaTama31: CMiner: Another issue is that every camera/webcam combination is going to be pretty different, in terms of the software/hardware exploits available. A homogenous hardware/software combo like a console, in millions of homes, will be a much juicier target.06/18/2013 - 6:31pm
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Sleaker: Vox pay what you want link is busted.06/18/2013 - 6:27pm
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ZippyDSMlee: Mics have to breath put tape over it.06/18/2013 - 6:25pm
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NyuRena: You nailed it James! Yikes..06/18/2013 - 1:56pm
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james_fudge: With MS willing to share with the government, an always listening device should give everyone pause.06/18/2013 - 1:37pm
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james_fudge: you can't turn off the Microphone on the Kinect and it has to be plugged in. It's not rocket science.06/18/2013 - 1:35pm
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E. Zachary Knight: The Humble Bundle Guys just don't like me having money in my pocket do they? https://www.humblebundle.com/06/18/2013 - 1:12pm
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E. Zachary Knight: CMiner, I know that my Android camera is off unless I am using an application that turns it on. Same with the microphone.06/18/2013 - 12:38pm
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CMiner: Can you turn off the camera on an iPhone? Like, -really- turn it off, not just change a setting that -tells- you the camera is off?06/18/2013 - 12:13pm
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james_fudge: when they make it a requirement, yes they are06/18/2013 - 12:10pm
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CMiner: I just don't think Microsoft bears any more (or less) responsibility for privacy with its Kinect camera than do the makers of laptops or smartphones with integrated cameras.06/18/2013 - 12:00pm
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Imautobot: The ability to operate the console without the camera is key. It's a peripheral, not directly integrated into the console, and yet it behaves as if it is. Thankfully I don't have kids, and won't have an Xbone either.06/18/2013 - 11:49am
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CMiner: Oh, I agree that the decision to make the kinect mandatory/always listening is terrible.06/18/2013 - 11:48am
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E. Zachary Knight: CMiner, and the easier the provider makes to do such things, the better. The fact that the XBone will not even funtion without it plugged in and turned on in some fashion makes a world of difference from a PC Webcam.06/18/2013 - 11:38am
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CMiner: It takes steps on the user's part to ensure 100% privacy (unplugging, uninstalling, putting tape over it, not putting it in the kid's rooms, etc)06/18/2013 - 11:29am
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CMiner: My point is that no webcam producing company can guarantee that no one will ever ever ever be able to access video from that webcam without your knowledge and permission06/18/2013 - 11:28am
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E. Zachary Knight: Of course at that point, you are still opening up yourself to Windows zero day vulnerabilities and back doors that they are happy to share with the government before Windows users.06/18/2013 - 11:26am
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Comments
Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
Yep, another example of the people we put in charge wasting our money foolishly. If only they were personally responsible for the money they waist. Wake Up New York.
Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
I heard PCs and handhelds are specificly exempt. I can't imagine why considering what they'er trying to do. My worry isn't so much this law per se as laws it might open up for consideration since this one passed :(
Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
My problem is that the Nintendo DS and PSP are both game consoles, and neither has parental controls. So, neither may be sold under this law.
The law may define a "video game console" specifically and accurately, but I doubt it.
Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
I agree, I was wondering about that. And, are computers exempt? Are foreign devices exempt?Is it really legal to pass a state law that forces a company in another state to some sort of action (in this case, install controls)? Or, will this bill require that handheld devices no longer be sold in the state at all?
How well does it define these video games? Do arcade cabinets and other single function systems require parental control before being sold in New York? Gambling devices? All those are electronic/video games as well, so much as in they are games on a vid screen...
Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
I still haven't seen the text of the bill so this may be a moot point, but does the bill apply to online sales at all or strictly brick and mortar shelves?
If it does apply to online sales then it does in fact have some teeth, specifically in regards to Indie games. Most Indie games are not rated as the majority of them are sold online and it's a costly process. The only ones that bother with getting rated are the ones that manage to score a box deal or a deal to publish via another channel that requires it.
Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
I hate when we get these articles while I am at work. I can't read it until tonight.
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Re: GP on Joystiq: NY Video Game Legislation Has Missing Teeth
Is it because everything they wasted taxpayer's money on to try and set up is already done voluntarily?