Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

July 4, 2008 -

According to the BBC, Oasis guitarist Noel Gallagher (left) has suggested that violent video games may play a role in Britain's wave of knife crimes.

Speaking at awards ceremony in London, Gallagher said:

[It's a] pity scumbags are taking over our streets. In my day, status was trying to be somebody, do you know what I mean, not trying to kill somebody?

 

I was up in Liverpool for a week a couple of weeks ago and even on the news there [knife crime is] every single night. I don't even know what [Conservative Leader David] Cameron or [Prime Minister] Gordon Brown are going to do about it...

 

People say it's through violent video games and I guess that's got something to do with it. If kids are sitting up all night smoking super skunk [cannabis] and they come so desensitised to crime because they're playing these video games, it's really, really scary.

 


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Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

I'm actually really surprised to hear anyone from the music industry make a claim like this.
 

I remember growing up and watching Frank Zappa and Dee Snider (Snyder?) defend themselves and their right to say what they want to in their music without fear of government reprisal, and I remember hearing parents freak out about how Popular Music was going to turn the nation's youth into a brain dead army of Satanic, bloodthirsty psychopaths.
 

Hearing a musician use a modified Judas Priest accusation (They're gonna do drugs and kill people!) is kinda sad. .

 

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

I thought GP picked this pic to make him look silly... but he actually does look like that...

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Yeah. Let's listen to a spiel on reducing violence from someone whose whole reputation is "talks with his fists".

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

That picture should have a quote next to it, "Don't you need to know what this man is thinking?"

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Right... As if we should listen to this pathetic excuse of a musician. He is a drunken "yob" with a guitar and more money than he should ever posess!

And he really isn't one to talk about the effects of drugs!

Being "mates" with Tony Blair doesn't matter anymore!

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

It wasn't too long ago that music was blamed for the same violence.....if Noel wasn't so busy with his 'super skunk' and fist fights with his bro, he'd know that.  Oh well, he's not paid to be smart, hes paid to play a damn song.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

If you play Champagne Supernova backwards right where the song ask, "Where were you while we were getting high" you can hear Gallagher sing, Out in Liverpool playing video games and stabbing people.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

As I finish playing Don't Look Back in Anger on Rock Band, I have to wonder what the effects of marijuana and guitar playing are...

I don't hear him commenting on that.... I wonder why...

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

As much as I love the Gallaghers and Oasis, they should stay out of gaming politics.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

if it will stop the emo transgender revolution sweeping the world, i saw let the kids have knives.

 

a lot of unwarranted hate for oasis, too.  but i guess in the emo transgender world, anything not fallout boy or 30 seconds to mars or the like is pretty much swept under the rug.  but whatever.

 

i love this world we inhabit where someone of some celebrity cannot say the things other non-famous people say everyday without having a revolution started against them.  it really is great.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Oasis isn't transgender music?

...

Hmm, I always thought that the majority of people on hear were metal fans. I am.

I don't really get what you're talking about when you mention those emo bands, but I do get what you mean when you touch on how people here are arguing that because he's not a licensed psychologist, that makes his word irrelevant, which also means that everything we say is irrelevant as well. I brought that up on my second post.

 

 -If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Well I don't hear child psychologists doing reviews of the latest album releases, do you?

Maybe its because they aren't really qualified. I don't want to hear their opinion on things that don't involve them, I want to see their latest entertainment product.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

saying people are "qualified" to give a review of a latest album is about as meaningful as noel saying that kids are stabbing each other because they ran out of ammo in silent hill. 

 

a review is nothing but a single person's jaded opinion (and trust me, when you get paid to do something on a daily basis, you most definitely do become jaded because of all the crap you have to deal with before you find a gem) that everyone else pays for.  and the problem with that comes from the fact that people use reviews as psychological validation to unjustly dislike something.  its just an opinion.  what gives it so much merit?  and yes, opinions can be wrong.  but its just an opinion.

 

what noel said was strictly his opinion.  diasgree with what he said, sure, but that doesnt mean you have to hate him. 

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Granted, all I get is dirt weed, rather than his alleged "super skunk", but either Ultraman or video games, I have no desire to act out what media I absorb while smoking.

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You know, when you actually look at it, there is less violence in entertainment than there used to be. What violence there is is obviously more intense, but the prevelence of childrens shows no longer have a lot of action violence like they used too. It's kind of funny hearing people from older generations complaining about games when they actually grew up with more violence than modern kids. Honestly, back in the good ol' days, kids used to run around with toy guns, playin' cops an' robbers, and now they're all being  bitchilated (that is not a real word)...ehhhh...

 

-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

 

Ageing, and increasingly out of touch musician, adored by English 20 something [now 30 something] men in their masses... all because they read somewhere that his band was the shit [in 1994]

I wouldn't cross the street to kick his arse.

 

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

who's oasis again?  honestly, i didnt even know they were still a band.  like others here have said, non-issue from a has-been.

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Yep. You aren't going to see this story anywhere but here, and a couple other game sites.

 

-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

I blame Oasis for not being there when I needed a drink of water during that long trek through the desert... bastards!

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Hmm... so it's not the teenager's fault for smoking weed and acting out what they see in a video game/movie/television show, it's the media's fault?

I say blame Oasis. Their music has made me want to kill on several occasions.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

All this from an idiot who has started more brawls than Lennox Lewis.  His brother once got his teeth knocked out for starting a fight with a bunch of people who turned out to be in the mafia.... clever...

Maybe the link in violence is down to the culture of stupidity from people trying to be druken t**ts like this guy.  Like how the Mancurian had to mention Liverpool in his little speach of hate.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Oasis

Crappy band is crappy.

someone needs to tell him that nobody cares about him. Even his family hates him for being in Oasis. THat people would rather listen to Posions "Greasts Hits" then him and his band.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

*Laughs @$$ off!!!!*

Says he, one of the biggest scumbags in British music.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

who is this guy?

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

If status these days is trying to be somebody, does that mean I can climb the ladder by killing Noel Gallagher? 

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

"In my day, status was trying to be somebody"

He then added, "Specifically, trying to be Paul McCartney."

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

rofl!

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Because we should really take opinions on complex issues from idiotic guitarists, right gang?

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Hooray my internet is finally working... somewhat.

Now anyway how does he know that all these crimes are done because the criminals seek status? How did he remove such likely inspirations as revenge money and desperation?

And it's great how he kinda sorta implies that most gamers are potheads. What a prince.

---------------------------------------------------- Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

LOL Noel!

I personally like Oasis,but my respect for Noel has gone down.I mean,he definitely isn't Eric Clapton,eh?

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

I really like Oasis but Noel and Liam are thick idiots every interview I see with either of them they drivel endless rubbish and it seems this latest thing is no difference.

I think you can enjoy somebodies music while having no respect for the persons views and opinions.  

For example Ozzie Ozbourne and Guns and Roses have made some great music but I personally wouldn't listen to any of there views on the worlds social problems.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Yeah, I can relate. I'm a big fan of Ozzy Osbourne's music, but I think Ozzie himself is a bit of a sad old man. Ahw, what if he started ranting about games?!

 

-If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we'd all be livin' large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

It's ozzy, even if he did start ranting about games you'd only understand every 6th word and every second word you did understand would be "yeah".

Great musicians should stick to making great music & the dickheads from oasis should shut the hell up & slink back to the obscurity they so richly deserve.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

You know what Noel?  It wasn't all that many years ago when rock music was getting blamed for violent crimes.  I wonder how you would have responded then.  Shut up, no one cares what you think.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Wow, this has-been celebrity shill is so bad at forming his own opinions that he has to get them from somebody else. An anonymous somebody, to boot.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

I think we are all in agreeance with this

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Who the heck is "Oasis" and why do we care what they're guitarist thinks?

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

They were a very big UK band in the 90s. So your answer is probably only British people care, the Gallagher brothers are still pretty famous over here even though they have done nothing of note for ages.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

They were huge world wide in the early to mid nintyies all of there albums have gone number one in the UK (the last one came out 2005).  They have had a number 2 and 4 album in the US.  They also had number one selling albums in Australia and New Zealand.  I'm pretty sure they were huge in Japan and most of mainland Europe as well.

Noel is a massive idiot though and a huge hypocrite as he has taken large quantities of drugs and been in plenty of fights in his life.  Liam his brother and the lead singer of Oasis can barely string words togther.  On the Brit Pop documentry Live Forever one of them admits to stealing lawn mowers and laudry off washing lines to sell for weed.

 

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

So this guy is knocking games, evenone that he recives song royalties from called Rock Band? Hmm.

At least video games don't empower pretentious leches who can only play Oasis songs at parties.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

And we should care because...?

Not that his comments were accurate or based on solid evidence. It's just... He is a no-name member of a second-rate band. Hell, if you had put his name up instead of "Oasis Guitarist" I'm sure everyone would be asking "Who?"

Call me when it is a politician or at least Keith Richards or something.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Pretty sure there are a good few people that would love to see his ass in jail, just because of the possibility his music influenced someone.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Have you ever heard his lyrics they just don't make sense. . 

 

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

I don't think we'll have to worry about Oasis's music influencing anyone, ever.

 

And that's a good thing.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Ugh...my god you all are retards.  He didn't say anything that's "anti-your religion.  All he basically said was if some kid smokes weed and plays GTAIV...YES, his damn sense of reality will get screwed up.  Drugs can do that, boys.

If you disagree with that, you're seriously retarded.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Given that Noel and his well publicised accounts of drinking and fighting are front page news and anyone commenting here is unknown to you, sweeping statements like yours above are foolhardy.

"Ugh...my god you all are retards"

No.  I have a pretty beefy IQ thanks,  and a job in the IT industry to keep it active.

"He didn't say anything that's "anti-your religion"

I'm agnostic at best, and at worst athiest.  Religion doesn't come into this, unless you were being trite and blasphemous?

"All he basically said was if some kid smokes weed and plays GTAIV...YES, his damn sense of reality will get screwed up.  Drugs can do that, boys."

Which means that GTA has bugger all to do with it, only the drugs have the effect.  Your point has been disproven by yourself.

"If you disagree with that, you're seriously retarded"

Just because you say it, doesn't make it so.  I suspect we either have a troll on our hands, or a big fan of Oasis.  Either way, Blur were better and you have nothing to say.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Do you mind backing up with facts just how playing GTA4 can warp your sense of reality?  If not, go away.

Re: Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

Once again, another idiot completely missed the point.  Ever smoked weed kid?  Good.  Shut up.

 
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