Oasis Guitarist Links Violent Games to Surge in UK Stabbings

According to the BBC, Oasis guitarist Noel Gallagher (left) has suggested that violent video games may play a role in Britain’s wave of knife crimes.

Speaking at awards ceremony in London, Gallagher said:

[It’s a] pity scumbags are taking over our streets. In my day, status was trying to be somebody, do you know what I mean, not trying to kill somebody?

 

I was up in Liverpool for a week a couple of weeks ago and even on the news there [knife crime is] every single night. I don’t even know what [Conservative Leader David] Cameron or [Prime Minister] Gordon Brown are going to do about it…

 

People say it’s through violent video games and I guess that’s got something to do with it. If kids are sitting up all night smoking super skunk [cannabis] and they come so desensitised to crime because they’re playing these video games, it’s really, really scary.

 

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    Lex-Man ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I really like Oasis but Noel and Liam are thick idiots every interview I see with either of them they drivel endless rubbish and it seems this latest thing is no difference.

    I think you can enjoy somebodies music while having no respect for the persons views and opinions.  

    For example Ozzie Ozbourne and Guns and Roses have made some great music but I personally wouldn’t listen to any of there views on the worlds social problems.

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    Lex-Man ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    They were huge world wide in the early to mid nintyies all of there albums have gone number one in the UK (the last one came out 2005).  They have had a number 2 and 4 album in the US.  They also had number one selling albums in Australia and New Zealand.  I’m pretty sure they were huge in Japan and most of mainland Europe as well.

    Noel is a massive idiot though and a huge hypocrite as he has taken large quantities of drugs and been in plenty of fights in his life.  Liam his brother and the lead singer of Oasis can barely string words togther.  On the Brit Pop documentry Live Forever one of them admits to stealing lawn mowers and laudry off washing lines to sell for weed.

     

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    Lex-Man ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Sorry Channel Four News has a massive liberal bias.  The BBC is, at least when it isn’t being interfered with by the British Government ,less bias that channel 4.

    By the way I’m not saying that channel four news isn’t worth watching and it’s no where near as bad as The Sun or Daily Mail who now seem to be shaping the news through campaigns and fax attention grabbing actions like entering there own candidates into elections.

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    Aliasalpha says:

    It’s ozzy, even if he did start ranting about games you’d only understand every 6th word and every second word you did understand would be "yeah".

    Great musicians should stick to making great music & the dickheads from oasis should shut the hell up & slink back to the obscurity they so richly deserve.

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    Chuma ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Yes but the BBC is usually pretty good at being impartial.  Not as good as Channel 4 News is here in the UK, but is does a pretty decent job.

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    Chuma ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Given that Noel and his well publicised accounts of drinking and fighting are front page news and anyone commenting here is unknown to you, sweeping statements like yours above are foolhardy.

    "Ugh…my god you all are retards"

    No.  I have a pretty beefy IQ thanks,  and a job in the IT industry to keep it active.

    "He didn’t say anything that’s "anti-your religion"

    I’m agnostic at best, and at worst athiest.  Religion doesn’t come into this, unless you were being trite and blasphemous?

    "All he basically said was if some kid smokes weed and plays GTAIV…YES, his damn sense of reality will get screwed up.  Drugs can do that, boys."

    Which means that GTA has bugger all to do with it, only the drugs have the effect.  Your point has been disproven by yourself.

    "If you disagree with that, you’re seriously retarded"

    Just because you say it, doesn’t make it so.  I suspect we either have a troll on our hands, or a big fan of Oasis.  Either way, Blur were better and you have nothing to say.

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    Erik ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Then if your point was about marijuana then the point about Grand Theft Auto 4 is moot.  You may as well have said smoking weed and riding unicyles for all its worth.  So again, unless you have any facts to back up your little assumption, go away.

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    GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Yeah, I can relate. I’m a big fan of Ozzy Osbourne’s music, but I think Ozzie himself is a bit of a sad old man. Ahw, what if he started ranting about games?!

     

    -If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we’d all be livin’ large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

  9. 0
    JustChris says:

    Wow, this has-been celebrity shill is so bad at forming his own opinions that he has to get them from somebody else. An anonymous somebody, to boot.

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    GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Settle down, dude. No need to get all riled up. Nobody’s trying to fuck with you, they’re just asking you to itterate on your point, that’s all.

     

    -If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we’d all be livin’ large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

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    odc04r says:

    They were a very big UK band in the 90s. So your answer is probably only British people care, the Gallagher brothers are still pretty famous over here even though they have done nothing of note for ages.

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    odc04r says:

    I’m sure we would shut the hell up if any negative connotations were attached to gaming, but you already wrote the key word ‘conclusive’. Afaik there is no conclusive evidence whatsoever to link mature games to violent behaviour and most people here are more than a little sick of their hobby being made a scapegoat for much more complicated social problems.

    While this is a bit of a non story, it’s still also a pretty silly opinion if you ask me and just shows Noel’s out of touch with youth these days.

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    Anonymous says:

    I only said that because you all are approaching gaming as a religion, and anything slightly negative from outside sources is outright bashed by you RETARDS with absolutely nothing conclusive to back it up with.

    Because of idiots like you, I’m fucking ashamed to be a gamer these days.

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    GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Actually, I think he was refering more to the drugs than GTA, like maybe he (or she, you never know) was alluding to something like, a kid gets so wasted that he forgets that what he’s playing is a game and not reality, or something like that. Either way, I am a tad sceptical, although I will aknowledge that this theorty is better than the usual "if you play_____, you will go insane and kill people" arguement.

     

    -If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we’d all be livin’ large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

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    SR says:

    So this guy is knocking games, evenone that he recives song royalties from called Rock Band? Hmm.

    At least video games don’t empower pretentious leches who can only play Oasis songs at parties.

  16. 0
    Anonymous says:

    And we should care because…?

    Not that his comments were accurate or based on solid evidence. It’s just… He is a no-name member of a second-rate band. Hell, if you had put his name up instead of "Oasis Guitarist" I’m sure everyone would be asking "Who?"

    Call me when it is a politician or at least Keith Richards or something.

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    kurisu7885 (can't log in) says:

    Pretty sure there are a good few people that would love to see his ass in jail, just because of the possibility his music influenced someone.

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    GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Are you sure you’re on the right story? Nobody said he was spouting anti-religious retohric. As for the "you’re seriously retarded" arguement, that doesn’t really do much except make you look rude. I reccomend you make sure you’re on the right story and rethink your arguement to make it more powerful.

     

    -If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we’d all be livin’ large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

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    Anonymous says:

    Ugh…my god you all are retards.  He didn’t say anything that’s "anti-your religion.  All he basically said was if some kid smokes weed and plays GTAIV…YES, his damn sense of reality will get screwed up.  Drugs can do that, boys.

    If you disagree with that, you’re seriously retarded.

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    damnedyankee says:

    Anybody else reminded of a Bill Hicks bit about British crime vs. American crime?

    "Nobody knows what it’s like
    To be a dustbin
    In Shaftesbury
    With hooligans…"

     

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    DarkTetsuya says:

    "People say it’s through violent video games and I guess that’s got something to do with it. If kids are sitting up all night smoking super skunk [cannabis] and they come so desensitised to crime because they’re playing these video games, it’s really, really scary."

    … Wow. Dumbest thing I’ve read today. I just hope there’s a ‘JT celebrates the 4th’ post later to top this one. I mean, wouldn’t you think there’d more of a connection between ‘getting high’ and ‘doing stupid crap’ regardless as to whether videogames are involved?

    *waits to be quoted on the internet, only to realize he’s not a know-nothing politician/celebrity*

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    Arashi says:

    "If kids are sitting up all night smoking super skunk [cannabis] and they come so desensitised to crime because they’re playing these video games, it’s really, really scary."

    Because, you know, the WEED wouldn’t have anything to do with it.

    I suspect he’s not very bright.

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    kielejocain says:

    That quote was barely coherent.  I really don’t think we need to be worrying about the substance-assisted ramblings of aging rock stars.  If a politician says VGs=violence, I’m worried/annoyed.  When Gallagher does, I’m indifferent.

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    King of Fiji ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Yeah the only guitarist from Britian whos oppinion I would give a darn about would be Brian May…..this guy isn’t Brian May……therfore who cares? 

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    Anonymous says:

    In a lot of ways, the BBC News IS like a Newspaper, it may not be directly prejudiced like the Sun or Mirror, or as obviously opinionated as Faux News, but there’s still the same thing there, you aren’t ‘watching the News’, you are ‘being told what the News is‘, there’s a big difference.

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    GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Anyone who takes this guy’s word seriously should check out some legitimate research, as listed in my sig. Also, I just wanna say…yeah, he’s a musician and not a proffesional in psychology, but neither are most of us…unless I’ve missed something…but hey, at least most of us aren’t raving alchoholics who have sudden outbursts of rage all the damn time.

    -If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we’d all be livin’ large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

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    Anonymous says:

    An interesting fact:

    Whilst knife-related attacks on/by teens have increased in the UK, gun related attacks have dropped, so whilst it is true to say that knife-crime in increasing in the UK, it is incorrect to say that Youth Crime or even Fatal Youth Crime has increased above the rate of population increase, it is still around the same it was 8 years ago.

    Thing is, just because it is in a Newspaper, that doesn’t mean it’s an accurate or independent opinion.

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    K-OSS says:

    "People say it’s through violent video games and I guess that’s got something to do with it."

    It doesn’t take the Hardy Boys to figure out there’s some holes in this logic.

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    Anonymous says:

    True, but to be honest, someone who stayed up all night smoking Cannabis would barely be fit to find their shoes, let alone start a fight. You’re looking more at stuff like Cocaine and Amphetmines for effects like that, and I know that both of the Gallagher brothers had brushes with the law over that.

    If he’d said idiots like Doherty and Winehouse, doing lines of coke and then getting into brawls and, worse still, the fact that they seem to somehow be almost immune to prosecution for it, were giving the wrong impression, I’d be behind him 100%, at least the law dealt with his brother, but blaming silly stuff like this is ridiculous.

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    GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    FUCKING GAMES STOLE MY TINY SPOTLIGHT!!!! I PLAY A GUITAR (poorly)! THAT MEANS I KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!

     

    -If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we’d all be livin’ large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

  31. 0
    Anonymous says:

     I want to see someone stoned start a fight.

    Someone looking to get stoned maybe, but after spending the night getting stoned it would be quite a short fight.

  32. 0
    Anonymous says:

    I’m actually really surprised to hear anyone from the music industry make a claim like this.
     

    I remember growing up and watching Frank Zappa and Dee Snider (Snyder?) defend themselves and their right to say what they want to in their music without fear of government reprisal, and I remember hearing parents freak out about how Popular Music was going to turn the nation’s youth into a brain dead army of Satanic, bloodthirsty psychopaths.
     

    Hearing a musician use a modified Judas Priest accusation (They’re gonna do drugs and kill people!) is kinda sad. .

     

  33. 0
    Anonymous says:

    saying people are "qualified" to give a review of a latest album is about as meaningful as noel saying that kids are stabbing each other because they ran out of ammo in silent hill. 

     

    a review is nothing but a single person’s jaded opinion (and trust me, when you get paid to do something on a daily basis, you most definitely do become jaded because of all the crap you have to deal with before you find a gem) that everyone else pays for.  and the problem with that comes from the fact that people use reviews as psychological validation to unjustly dislike something.  its just an opinion.  what gives it so much merit?  and yes, opinions can be wrong.  but its just an opinion.

     

    what noel said was strictly his opinion.  diasgree with what he said, sure, but that doesnt mean you have to hate him. 

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    CrazyBlue ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Right… As if we should listen to this pathetic excuse of a musician. He is a drunken "yob" with a guitar and more money than he should ever posess!

    And he really isn’t one to talk about the effects of drugs!

    Being "mates" with Tony Blair doesn’t matter anymore!

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    Evilswissmiss ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It wasn’t too long ago that music was blamed for the same violence…..if Noel wasn’t so busy with his ‘super skunk’ and fist fights with his bro, he’d know that.  Oh well, he’s not paid to be smart, hes paid to play a damn song.

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    GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Hmm, I always thought that the majority of people on hear were metal fans. I am.

    I don’t really get what you’re talking about when you mention those emo bands, but I do get what you mean when you touch on how people here are arguing that because he’s not a licensed psychologist, that makes his word irrelevant, which also means that everything we say is irrelevant as well. I brought that up on my second post.

     

     -If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we’d all be livin’ large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

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    RobertHMayfire ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    If you play Champagne Supernova backwards right where the song ask, "Where were you while we were getting high" you can hear Gallagher sing, Out in Liverpool playing video games and stabbing people.

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    Anonymous says:

    Well I don’t hear child psychologists doing reviews of the latest album releases, do you?

    Maybe its because they aren’t really qualified. I don’t want to hear their opinion on things that don’t involve them, I want to see their latest entertainment product.

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    Anonymous says:

    As I finish playing Don’t Look Back in Anger on Rock Band, I have to wonder what the effects of marijuana and guitar playing are…

    I don’t hear him commenting on that…. I wonder why…

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    elijah ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    if it will stop the emo transgender revolution sweeping the world, i saw let the kids have knives.

     

    a lot of unwarranted hate for oasis, too.  but i guess in the emo transgender world, anything not fallout boy or 30 seconds to mars or the like is pretty much swept under the rug.  but whatever.

     

    i love this world we inhabit where someone of some celebrity cannot say the things other non-famous people say everyday without having a revolution started against them.  it really is great.

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    Anonymous says:

    Granted, all I get is dirt weed, rather than his alleged “super skunk”, but either Ultraman or video games, I have no desire to act out what media I absorb while smoking.

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    GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    You know, when you actually look at it, there is less violence in entertainment than there used to be. What violence there is is obviously more intense, but the prevelence of childrens shows no longer have a lot of action violence like they used too. It’s kind of funny hearing people from older generations complaining about games when they actually grew up with more violence than modern kids. Honestly, back in the good ol’ days, kids used to run around with toy guns, playin’ cops an’ robbers, and now they’re all being  bitchilated (that is not a real word)…ehhhh…

     

    -If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we’d all be livin’ large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

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    I've never liked that band. says:

     

    Ageing, and increasingly out of touch musician, adored by English 20 something [now 30 something] men in their masses… all because they read somewhere that his band was the shit [in 1994]

    I wouldn’t cross the street to kick his arse.

     

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    GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Yep. You aren’t going to see this story anywhere but here, and a couple other game sites.

     

    -If shit and bricks were candy and tits, we’d all be livin’ large. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard Medical School researchers Larry Kutner and Cheryl Olson

  45. 0
    Mark Green says:

    A fantastic guitarist? Are you kidding me?

    I am a guitarist – not just a "Rock Band" or "Guitar Hero" impersonator – and have played in bands for over 20 years.   While I like their music from the perspective of a fan and enjoy playing the occasional Oasis song, I would never call him brilliant.  His style is not exactly original and, from a technical perspective, is quite easy to play (most of his stuff is pretty simple in fact).

    The Gallagher brothers are no strangers to violence…Liam and Noel often get into fist fights with eachother…  I wonder what their excuse is?  

     

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    phexitol says:

    Hear, hear!

    He’s a brilliant guitarist, and can actually sing quite well. It’s speaking intelligibly that he is unable to do (despite being able to sing clearly).

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    Meggie ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    In his day, you earned status by getting into bar fights.

    What’s so outstandingly newsworthy about this is that Oasis was actually invited to an awards ceremony.

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    Anonymous says:

    LOL

    What makes me laugh about this comment is the fact that this is a guy who’s lead singer got his teeth punched out in a German Nightclub because he tried to start a fight…

    Considering Oasis made most of their money ’emulating’ the Beatles, does that put them in the same category as Charles Manson? In fact, they were both considered as ‘troublemakers’ when they actually in  popular media.

  49. 0
    Haggard says:

    I agree wholeheartedly, Joystiq’s coverage of this was amazing because of its sarcastic appreciation of all the wonderful things he’s done to make his opinion on this matter worthwhile.

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    Gene says:

    I resent that! Noel Gallagher is a fantastic guitarist, with a brilliant imagination for melody. Though I take the point on his understanding of criminal psychology.

    – In the beginning, there was nothing. So God started making stuff.

  51. 0
    Belgarion89 says:

    He’s barely able to play guitar, why does his opinion on anything, much less criminal psychology, matter?

    ———————————

    So speak I, some random guy.

  52. 0
    Vlox says:

    Hmm… so it’s not the teenager’s fault for smoking weed and acting out what they see in a video game/movie/television show, it’s the media’s fault?

    I say blame Oasis. Their music has made me want to kill on several occasions.

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    Chuma ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    All this from an idiot who has started more brawls than Lennox Lewis.  His brother once got his teeth knocked out for starting a fight with a bunch of people who turned out to be in the mafia…. clever…

    Maybe the link in violence is down to the culture of stupidity from people trying to be druken t**ts like this guy.  Like how the Mancurian had to mention Liverpool in his little speach of hate.

  54. 0
    Anonymous says:

    Oasis

    Crappy band is crappy.

    someone needs to tell him that nobody cares about him. Even his family hates him for being in Oasis. THat people would rather listen to Posions "Greasts Hits" then him and his band.

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    Father Time says:

    Hooray my internet is finally working… somewhat.

    Now anyway how does he know that all these crimes are done because the criminals seek status? How did he remove such likely inspirations as revenge money and desperation?

    And it’s great how he kinda sorta implies that most gamers are potheads. What a prince.

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    PHOENIXZERO says:

    They’ve been bitter for a long time since no one has given a crap about Oasis in almost a decade. Champagne Supernova, Wonderwall and Don’t Go Away…… Then pretty much nothing for the last ten plus years worth listening to, hell Be Here Now was a pretty shitty record aside from one or maybe two maybe three songs, one of those being the aforementioned "Don’t Go Away".

     

    After these comments he probably walked into a pub, drank a few and then smashed a chair over someone’s head for looking at him funny.

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    titantim says:

    This is also the same duchebag that said that he hopes that the lead singer of Blur dies of AIDS.

    This guy has no business pointing fingers for people being screwed in the head.

    On top of it all, it was the music industry that was originaly blamed for all the wrongs in the world not long ago.  I guess noel is just turring into a grumpy grandpa.  Instead of telling the kids to turn down their music, the old farts are telling the kids to turn off their video games.

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    PHOENIXZERO says:

    They might have been successful like, ten, twelve years ago but Oasis hasn’t been relevant since then. Hell, even back then their relevancy is questionable. Besides that, like others already said, he and his brother are notoriously huge pricks, prone to violent outburst.

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    Anonymous says:

    He may be very successful, but I query how he has a proffesional opinion on this? Celebrities should not talk about things they don’t know about… he literally said, "People say it’s through violent video games and I guess that’s got something to do with it."… which is like saying, "I heard someone saying it, so I guess it could be true".

    Now that he’s said this, other people will think, "That famous guy said that, so maybe it is true". Celebrities need to learn to realise the effect they have on people’s opinions and stop talking rubbish they don’t fully understand.

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