Philippine Game Law Proposal Could Jail Retailers for a Year
Philippine Game Law Proposal Could Jail Retailers for a Year
July 14, 2008
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A lawmaker in the Philippines has introduced a bill designed to prevent minors from puchasing violent video games.
As reported by the Asian Journal, the measure proposed by Rep. Narciso Santiago (left) could imprison retailers for up to one year for selling mature-themed games to underage buyers.
Santiago cited studies showing increased aggressiveness following violent game play. The lawmaker commented:
[The state has] compelling interests to prevent violent, aggressive, asocial behavior [and] prevent psychological harm to minors who play violent video games, and prevent physical harm to the victims of violent minors, including other minors.... It is also the responsibility of the state to eliminate any societal factors that may inhibit the psychological and neurological development of the youth and facilitate the health development of the youth into well-meaning productive adults.
GP: Our old pal Jack Thompson wrote in a comment to another story that Santiago's bill is patterned after his 2006 legislation from Louisiana. That bill failed miserably under US constitutional law, but made for good theater, nonetheless (see: The Circus Comes to Louisiana)...
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Posted 11/08/09 at 01:07am
Austin_Lewis: Health insurance, brought to you by the same kind of bureacrats who couldn't, in timely fashion, investigate the comments of any of the men Obama appointed Czars. Or their past. Or their history of not paying taxes.
Austin_Lewis: Health insurance, brought to you by the same kind of bureacrats who couldn't, in timely fashion, investigate the comments of any of the men Obama appointed Czars. Or their past. Or their history of not paying taxes.
Posted 11/08/09 at 01:06am
Austin_Lewis: Yes, and what a piece of crap it was. Arresting and fining people just because they don't make a personal choice to buy healh insurance, creating over a hundred new bureacracies, and worse.
Austin_Lewis: Yes, and what a piece of crap it was. Arresting and fining people just because they don't make a personal choice to buy healh insurance, creating over a hundred new bureacracies, and worse.
Posted 11/08/09 at 12:24am
ZippyDSMlee: JDKJ:the only trouble is a bunch of witless hacks wrote it....its going to be a train wreck....
ZippyDSMlee: JDKJ:the only trouble is a bunch of witless hacks wrote it....its going to be a train wreck....
Posted 11/07/09 at 11:33pm
JDKJ: BREAKING: In a photo-finish at the wire, House passes health care reform bill. Relatedly, in a fit of pique, Austin Lewis kicks innocent dog.
JDKJ: BREAKING: In a photo-finish at the wire, House passes health care reform bill. Relatedly, in a fit of pique, Austin Lewis kicks innocent dog.
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:27pm
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:26pm
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:23pm
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:18pm
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
Posted 11/07/09 at 03:34pm
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:58am
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:07am
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:05am
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:03am
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:56am
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:45am
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:37am
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
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Wjhat is that giant grey blob above GP's comment? Is it supposed to be the article?
Note to the soon-to-be former attorney Jack Thompson: The Philippines do not have the same constitutional rights that the U.S. has.
This.
Some things that may be ok in other countries don't fly in the US.
His attempted comparison between the UK and USA come to mind.
People turning violent as they grow up is more likely when they are VICTIMS or WITNESSES to a dometic crime.
"It is also the responsibility of the state to eliminate any societal factors that may inhibit the psychological and neurological development of the youth"
Sounds like something out of 1984
Because last I checked, the primary affectors of the "psychological and neurological development of the youth" here was the rampant corruption in congress, and the fact that more than a tenth of our people live below the poverty line.
Hey let's send people to prison, just in case.
I am a Filipino, and this much I have to say regarding Santiago's bill:
PUTANG INA.
Sure - expose us to all these half-wit TV shows (I'm talking to YOU, ABS-CBN!), all the crime and murders that happen on a daily basis, and the bombings happening in Mindanao. And then you think THAT is what's corrupting the youth? Try generations of negligence and corruption that sends a message that there is nothing to hope for in our f***ed up country!
For the guys wondering, the Philippine government's lost considerable credibility over the years, and has developed a bad reputation for trying to silence its critics with lawsuits and/or politcal assasinations. For example, the MTRCB, our film ratings board, gave an X rating normally used for porn films to a documentary that was critical of the Arroyo Admnistration.
The House of Representatives, to whom Santiago belongs, is particularly unpopular and is famous for their grandstanding though hardly ever actually resolving important issues.
Uhh... May I ask what Putang Ina means?
I AM A LOST SOUL, CONDEMNED TO HAUNT THE DREAMS OF JOHN BRUCE "JACK" THOMPSON UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS. SOMEONE, PLEASE! END MY SUFFERING!
It's Tagalog for "Son of a w***e!" It's our equivalent to "Son of a B***h!"
Ah, thanks.
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I AM DOOMED TO HAUNT JACK THOMPSON'S DREAMS UNTIL HIS CRUSADE AGAINST VIDEO GAMES ENDS.
Mr. Santiago, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I'm also a Filipino and have been playing "violent games" both off and online since the advent of Doom. Where am I now? Working and paying my taxes like a good citizen should so are all my friends who I played with. Why don't you go back and do some research on this topic as well as resolve some of the more pressing issues in our country before you do this?
You, Mr. Santiago, are a waste of the tax payers money. It sickens me to know that you get a cut of the taxes I pay for every year.
Interestingly enough, there are only a few "original" game retailers in the philippines since most are sold "under the table". They already have enough trouble trying to get rid of all the pirated copies of software as it is. Malls practically have stores that sell pirated copies out in the open even with the crackdown on pirated software.
Another point, would be interesting if congress actually passes a law since most of the time they fight amongst themselves to get any actual work done
Plus there's the whole economic thing not to mention wide spread prostitution/human trafficking/child prostitution and the whole "sex tourism" thing that's rampant there and the organized crime that controls it and laws that aren't being enforced (police corruption FTL) to try and stop or prevent it. I'd say the Philippines have much bigger problems than violent videogames. But eh, typical politician crap, go for the "easy" stuff, not issues that actually would require work to solve.
I think it's time there were riots again over there. The government needs a good over throwing.
suuuure....
like those anti-pirating laws and drive actually DID anything.. i doubt this will be effective..
PS.. i live in the Philippines...
GP, I found the Bill's official press release from the Philippine House of Representatives website:
http://www.congress.gov.ph/press/details.php?pressid=2442
Btw, what happened to the Asian Journal link? It's gone.
[The state MUST HAVE] compelling interests to prevent corrupt, apathetical, and just plain evil behavior [and] prevent psychological (and financial) harm to the populace who see their taxes being used for worthless projects like this anti-videogame bill, and prevent physical (and financial) harm to the victims of violently money-hungry politicians, including a conniving little midget named GLORIA MACAPAGAL-ARROYO.... It is also the often-forgotten responsibility of the state to eliminate any societal factors that may inhibit the long-standing and hardly-noticed development of eliminating THE SOCIAL CANCER and facilitate the development of the nation into well-meaning, GOD-FEARING, and PATRIOTIC citizens, which is FAR MORE IMPORTANT than BANNING VIDEO GAMES.
THIS ANTI-VIDEOGAME LAW IS VERY REMINISCENT OF THE MARCOS ERA.
SERIOUSLY, THE MEDIA REALLY NEEDS TO STOP SENSATIONALIZING THIS ISSUE (I'M TALKING TO YOU, JESSICA SOHO).
THEY'RE REALLY STARTING TO LOOK STUPID.
This is funny. All this is, is a politician being a politician by trying to look moral. I don't know him, but I'm going to bet he's corrupt, like a lot of the politicians over there. The fact of the matter is, the coppers in the PI won't care about retailers anyways. This law won't be enforced if passed.
Welcome to the Philippine Congress.
Now, this happens everytime some lardass in the Congress*coughFAIL* forgets that he should be doing something better.
Maybe we should jail the parents for failure too? Happy Meal.
I'm all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area. If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?