GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

July 15, 2008 -

Separating a hardcore gamer from the copy of GTA IV that he waited for in a launch line?

Absolutely criminal, said a judge in Great Britain. As reported by the Leyland Guardian, Marc Hughes, 21, and Oliver Aindow, 18, not only stole their victim's copy of the game but also broke his nose and jaw.

So, were these two a couple of violence-crazed gamers who were desperate for their own GTA IV fix?

Hardly. The pair promptly sold the game for cash. As Judge Beverley Lunt told the pair in court:

By your own admission this was a pre-planned robbery. You saw that this shop was opening at midnight to sell this X-Box game. You dressed yourselves in hoods.  You deliberately used bushes as cover to stalk your victim and ambush him and for what? For an X-Box game, valued at £40 which you sold for £20.

This is extraodinarily gratuitous violence because the whole thing was conducted in silence. There was no demand for the game to be handed over. It is only at the end when he is lying bleeding, having had his jaw broken and his nose broken that you took the game from his hand.

 

Judge Lunt sentenced Hughes and Aindow to two years each.


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Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

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Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

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Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

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Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

I'm all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area.  If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?

But majority araba kiralama of their outrage araç kiralama stems from what it could DO TO children, not the content itself.  Talk to one of these people and you'll find they don't think any books kiralık araba should be banned from children.  Mention American Psycho and they talk about kiralık araç the redeeming value of using imagination to construct a story.  Reading, no matter what the content, is largely viewed as a consequenceless activity for people of any age.  The reason why I mention American Psycho is because of the content itself.  Gaming never has and likely never will have any scenes where someone has sex with a severed head.  Not gonna happen.  Yet despite this, they'll fight tooth and nail to protect their children from two boys kissing in Bully but whatever they read is harmless... yeah.

The entire arguement is kiralık oto based upon a social normality inflicted by luddites who can't figure out the controls for Halo so it's frightening and terrifying and obviously the cause of youth violence on the rise even though, in reality, it's in decline (which is actually a HUGE suprise given minibüs kiralama the economies status).  In  a perfect world, we would have parents that actually parent.  The idea of sales restrictions on media on oto kiralama any form to accomidate parental unwillingness to get involved with their child's life is the real problem to me.  Here I am, 32 years old, and being held up at a self-scan rent a car needing to show ID before I can buy a $10 M rated game all because Soccer Momthra can't be bothered to look at the crap Billy Genericallystupidson does in his free time.  It's too hard for her, so I have to suffer?

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

2 years? They'll be out in time for Christmas then.

Assholes in prison.

Here's hoping when they get out they try this again with a baddass who beats their bitch asses so bad they end up paralyzed from the waist down and then they go to prison for 5 more years. Fuckers.

 

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Re: Assholes in prison.

In the UK it would be the person who beat them who ended up in prison.

Re: Assholes in prison.

So in the UK if someone breaks your nose and jaw and steals your shit you have to sit there and take it?

Re: Assholes in prison.

Haha, Im a terrible person for saying this, But paralysis from the waist down and prison time doesn't seem like too bad of a punishment. At least they wont be able to feel bubba when hes got them bent over his bunk!

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

 Good.  These dorks got what they deserve.  Now if only our President would.  sigh.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Severly inefficient criminals, those two. Kinda reminds me of a quote from The Simpsons. "A house? For that I gotta kill a lot of people!"

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Seriously?  Everyone is acting like 2 years of jail time is something to sneeze at.   Think about it.  2 white boys, barely adults, sitting in prison.  They're very likely to get raped at least once, or beaten at least.  And only for 20 pounds.  Would you be willing to trade 2 years of your life for another 20 pounds?

If so, you have serious problems.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

 I agree. The ''get tough''' attitude towards crime really actually doesn't work that well. Plus, prison is a pretty shitt place. Two years is apretty bad punishment. 

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

I'd give them a 90% chance that once they are released, they commit another equally violent crime within 6 months. Criminals almost NEVER change thier ways. The only thing that they will feel walking out of that place is Bitterness and anger at society, which will just perpetuate the problem.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Do you have a source that criminals never change their ways or what?

No offense or anything but I have a hard time believing you (and personal accounts does not qualify as a source).

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Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Its called "Open your Eyes" Just observe the world around you. It takes a special mindset to commit a crime AT ALL, and that mindset doesn't change after spending time in prison. Something like 60% or so of inmates in prison are repeat offenders. Like I said, Once an asshole, always an asshole.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

So smoking a joint makes you an asshole? People are in prison for things that shouldn't be crimes. Statistics like that are meaningless.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Lol, if you think smoking a joint shouldnt be a criminal offence, what about crack/cocaine, heroine, or Meth? Because 75% of the people I've known who have smoked Pot have moved on to those, including 3 of my friends who have DIED, since. Doing any drug is stupid as hell, and they should all be illegal.

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Not too sure if your comment was aimed at everyone saying 2 years is too short or the 2 kids that fucked themselves up for 20 euros.

Well its not just the 40 euro game that gave them a 2 year sentece, it was the beating of the owner.

Don't go having fantasies of white kids getting raped in prison sir

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 Deport them to Australia, thats what its there for.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Just throw them on an island and make them fight to the death. We're still developing, damnit.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Good call by the court, though I wish the press would report this stuff correctly. This was yet another case where (popular and in demand item) was stolen to sell for cash. That's it. Whether the item is a CD, DVD, game, Pokemon cards, wallet, watch, mobile phone, TV, game console, jewellery, a car, stereo or whatever else, it's the same crime. The press seems to think that the fact it was a copy of GTA4 somehow makes it a different crime, this is simply not so.

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Maybe the sentence was too light for these idiots, but at least something was done.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Lol...I read a story once about an 8-year-old that held an airsoft gun to a smaller kid's head to rob him of (I think it was) Pokemon cards...

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

They reported that story here on gamepolitics. Oh and it was a 10 year old.

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/02/09/pokemon-first-seizures-now-armed-...

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Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Holy shit the 8 year kid held a air soft gun to a smaller kid's head?!

I would have just beaten the smaller kid and stolen the pokemon cards, less controversy I'm guessing

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Ok so my question is did they get such a rediculously light sentence because they were stupid or is it that they attacked a "vicious" gamer who obviously would have gone on a killing spree after playing the game, so they did society a service?

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Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

AS a uk resident, let me be clear on this one.

THIS is why people are violent.

Not because of a 'video game' like GTAIV. THIS.

and by 'THIS', i mean the fact that TWO men (and lets not pretend they were anything but fully grown adults) attacked one other man (cowards cant even fight fair) by jumping him, breaking his nose and jaw ( i cant even imagine how painful that is, and not to mention distressing to be left bleeding on the floor) fora £20 profit. ....And they get.. just... 2 years...

WTF?

and in the uk commonly sentences under 4 years are cut to two thirds in reality.. so two years means approximately 15 months or so.

You think the victim will be over it in 15 months? dont think so. I know if it was me who got attacked id be pretty shaken by it, not to mention both physically and emotionally damaged. yet in 15 months, they will be out to do it all over again. Absolutely ridiculous that two men can gang up on a victim, cause Grevious bodily harm, and get such little time in Jail.

Why the hell should ppl like this want to stop? I mean, lets not kid ourselves, This was the first time these two were caught doing it. who knows how many other people they have attacked and robbed/beaten up. If they can make a quick buck doing things like this with the equivalent of only a severe telling off if they get caught, why on EARTH are they going to stop.

For gods sake England. Treat these guys like the criminals they are.

I cant understand how they didnt get at least 5 years each. I mean they didnt even ask for the game. Just attacked him. no demands or anything. violence just for the sake of violence. absolutely bl*** ridiculous that that factor alone didnt add 2 years onto the sentence. it was calculated, malicious and just plain wrong.  

 

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

As a UK Citizen, I totally agree, and even more sickening is the fact that there are people who have gone out, got drunk and killed little children while behind the wheel of a car, that have spent even less time behind bars than these two men.

If there is no effective punishment, crime will rise. Simple as that.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

 Have you ever been in jail? I used to work in one, and it's a lot worse than ''sever telling off to be in one for any length of time over half a year.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

I completely agree with this post. Congratz, you win a cookie

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Totally agree with your post. But one question.. What does bl*** represent? Bloody? Being from america, I guess I never saw that as a censorable word, lol.. I was just curious.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

lol yeah :D

 

guess in england its more of a cuss word than USA! hehe

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

They should have gotten ten years each for what they did.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Those guys were not bright.  Severely hurting a man and selling the game for half its worth?  Stupid.  Sounds like they've gotten what they deserve.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Wouldnt this be considered premeditated?  Isn't that a much bigger punishment?  2 years?  They viciously attacked a man with the intention to kill, and for a very stupid reason.  That should be a felony with 10+ years at the least.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

It didn't say intent to kill, but the robbery could've easily been a murder if the robbers hit the guy harder or something, which would become murder. I agree though, a lot more than 2 years

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Intent to kill? Where does it say that?

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

2 years each for robbery and assault?  That seems a bit low to me.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Well the uk is a nanny state and all so its not surprising.

(And yes before anyone asks. I do live in the uk.)

 

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Not really. It's only petty theft, which usually is just community service. And the assault didn't get the guy damaged permanently, nor I assume did it cause him too much mental anguish.

2 years seems about right.

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No mental aguish? When broke my jaw I couldn't eat solid food for over 2 weeks.  Belive me its not fun

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

When I first read the title of this story, I was like, "Alright, Eleven Years! Put those Assholes away!" But, alas, it was only 2. Once a criminal, always a criminal, in my opinion. I wish there would be steeply harsher punishments for things like theft, assault, and robbery. 10 to 15 years at the very least, depending on the seriousness of the crime. I mean, jesus, you know things are too lenient when KILLING somebody will sometimes only get you 10 years. I say, make a character judgement, and if they seem like an asshole, put them away!

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Like the girl that killed her little sister and is getting 18 years or 6 years of special help....That pisses me off like no other.

And yeah, assualting a guy, BREAKING HIS JAW, stealing his game, then leaving. That should be 5 years minimum

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

I don't know if you heard, but our prisons are full.

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Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

All the more reason to start executing more criminals, and not just for murdering multiple people.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

Or we can make posession of drugs a crime that doesn't get you thrown in jail or better yet legalize some of the lesser drugs (like marijuana). That would REALLY help the problem.

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 Because everyone who ever commits a crime is always a hardened criminal for the rest of their life. Always for ever. because no one has ever deserved a second chance. because the ''get tough" attitude is always so effective in preventing crime. because crime is never motivated by poverty, and is always just because the crimˆnals are evil people.

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Crime motivated by poverty should never be an excuse, and anyone caught committing a crime motivated by poverty should be given the same treatment as anyone who commits a crime for any other reason. Regardless of the person's current state of life,  the commission of a crime is ALWAYS a choice, and if you make the WRONG choice, you should be punished severely for it.

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

I'm pretty sure we already don't allow poverty as an excuse man, they are punished for their crimes. But saying you should execute a guy for stealing a loaf of bread is totally asanine (just an example I know no one said it...).

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

That analogy being completely unrelated to the topic at hand aside, these guys probably weren't poverty stricken at all, they probably just wanted a few extra bucks because thier mommy's didn't want to give it to them. Throw the book at them!

Re: GTA IV Robbers Get II Years in Prison

You've never had a broken jaw i take it?

 
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