BREAKING – New York Governor Signs Video Game Bill Into Law

GamePolitics has confirmed that, last night, New York Gov. David Paterson (left) signed video game legislation passed by the Senate and Assembly into law.

UPDATE: We’ve obtained a copy of the Governor’s press release on the video game bill signing:

Governor David A. Paterson signed a package of bills, many of which are focused on public safety and protecting the rights of New York residents. [One of these will] ensure the State will explore the negative effects of violent video games.

 

“We have the obligation to be constantly vigilant about amending our laws to protect the residents of New York State. Many of these bills will do just that by closing loopholes or creating new laws to enhance the quality of life for all New Yorkers,” said Governor Paterson…

 

…other bills signed by Governor Paterson are directly aimed at protecting children… A.11717 / S.6401-A [the video game bill] establishes an advisory council to conduct a study on the connection between interactive media and real-life violence in minors exposed to such media. This bill will also require new video game consoles to have parental lockout features by 2010, and mandate that games sold at retail disclose the ratings obtained from the gaming industry’s voluntary rating system.

GamePolitics has received this comment from Richard Taylor, Senior Vice President of Communications and Research for the Entertainment Software Association:

The state has ignored legal precedent, common sense and the wishes of many New Yorkers in enacting this unnecessary bill. This government intrusion will cost taxpayers money and impose unconstitutional mandates for activities and technologies that are already voluntarily in place. It also unfairly singles out the videogame industry over all other forms of media. One wonders where this overreach by government in New York will end. If New York lawmakers feel it is the role of government to convene a government commission on game content, they could next turn to other content such as books, theater and film.

Will there be a court challenge? We’ve put this question to the ESA; they’ve told us that they are reviewing their options. For a variety of reasons, the main one being that the bill has no real teeth, it’s entirely possible that the industry will just live with it.

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89 comments

  1. Rennie Davis says:

    Indeed, I am saying exactly that (at least in reference to videos, not other media).

    Section 612 of the General Business Laws of the state of New York currently reads:

    §  612.  Sale  and  rental  of  films.  1.  No  person, partnership or
      corporation shall sell or rent at retail or attempt to sell or  rent  at
      retail  a film unless the rating of the motion picture from which it was
      copied is clearly displayed on the outside of the case, jacket or  other
      cover of the film.
        2.  This section shall not apply to a "mail order business" as defined
      in section three hundred ninety-six-m of this chapter  or  to  any  film
      which is a reproduction of a motion picture, concert, musical production
      or  other  video  event  which has not been given a rating, nor shall it
      apply to any  motion  picture  which  has  been  altered  subsequent  to
      receiving a rating.
        3.  A violation of subdivision one of this section shall be punishable
      by a civil penalty of not more than one hundred dollars.
     

  2. chadachada(123) says:

    Yeah really, who are they trying to kid? You can’t protect someones rights by infringing them…

  3. chadachada(123) says:

    If it is indeed exsisting law, then New York already has unconstitutional laws…more reason to get it shut down in court, so that all media types can be unrestricted…

  4. MonkeyPeaches ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    The only thing this thing will change is there’ll be a group who gets paid to say, "Video games are the devil."

  5. Austin_Lewis says:

    Awesome.  Jackasses in New York have signed yet another bill into effect that does nothing except waste a bit of time and a small portion of money. 

  6. Anonymous says:

    "The sentence case language in the material quoted is existing New York law."

    Wait.  Are you saying that there is existing NY law covering film and other media in this regard and that NY is simply adding video games to that existing law?  If that’s the case, I don’t see why video games should be excluded from existing media laws.

  7. Anonymous says:

    >Governor David A. Paterson signed a package of bills, many of which are focused on public safety and protecting the rights of New York residents. [One of these will] ensure the State will explore the negative effects of violent video games.

    >Governor David A. Paterson signed a package of bills, many of which are focused on public safety and protecting the rights of New York residents.

     

    >protecting the rights of New York residents.

  8. chr says:

    i guess being blind can be a handicap, the governor is obviously "blind" to this since he doesnt know or can see that games already have these so called "laws" already and voluntarily in place

  9. Anonymous says:

    Agreed Saladin. The Problem is the law is, at it’s core, unconstiutional. It doesn’t matter if it’s being done already or if it’s being done in other media or not. Fundemntaly by our constitution this SHOULD NOT BE LAW. It’s that simple.

  10. Saladin ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Even if this bill has no teeth, it’s the principal of it all. Video Games have once again taken the blame in society, and the government keeps trying to extend it’s control over our constitutionally defended rights!

    I’m sure in the end this bill will fail, but that it passed in the first place and will no doubt waste more tax-payer money is just ridiculous. Yes, we’ve seen this kind of thing before, but to see it again and again is just irks the hell out of me.

    Is there no end to this inane crap?

  11. GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    To be honest, I really don’t see any point in getting all riled up about this. This bill alone doesn’t seem to do anything but make mandatory what the industry has already been doing. I am concerned over this "council" thing they speak of. Sounds like a real good way to get biased scientific evidence. Also, there’s the slippery slope. If they try to take this further we’ll simply smack ’em back I guess.

     

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  12. jadedcritic says:

    Why bother?  Personally, I don’t see much sense in challenging it. Fine, a state wasted taxpayer money with an unnecessary law.  hoo-ra, I’ll call the guiness book of world records. It’s not like it doesn’t happen 20 times a day before lunch – the precedent has been set already, don’t worry about it.  Personally, I only see the sense in one thing.  If we have any GP’ers that live in NY – you guys (and girls) remember this when he comes up for re-election.

     

  13. jamesweis says:

    Crazy idea here.  In the event of the eventual lawsuit.  And following that, in the eventual suit for reimbursement for legal fees, how about the ESA stipulate that the funds come directly from the pockets of anyone and everyone that helped push this legislation through into law?  Politicians are not going to care what this may cost so long as the money comes out of someone else’s pocket.  If the ESA truly wanted to put an end to unconstitutional laws relating to games, then they would attempt to hit the lawmakers somewhere where they will actually listen for once.  And face it, elections are not frequent enough for a suitable public backlash to be fully mounted in retaliation for such brazen wastes of time and money.

  14. MasterAssassin ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    As unnecessary as this is at least they aren’t trying to criminalize the sale of violent games to minors and are letting the retailers decide whether they want to restrict sales. There’s actually a law that requires all TV sets to have a V chip in them, so this is really no different although it is unnecessary since all next gen consoles have parental lock features in them. I do however wonder why they aren’t studying other media forms such as movies and television.

  15. John Kane says:

    You have to love politicians trying to interfere, in capitalism. There are as reported systems in place for this already. By creating these over zealous attempts to fix non existent problems real things do not get done. The governor should rely on the makers to put a more ratings on the games or more parental knowledge. All these requirements will jack up the price of games and put off gamers.

  16. Anonymous says:

    This bill will also require new video game consoles to have parental lockout features by 2010, and mandate that games sold at retail disclose the ratings obtained from the gaming industry’s voluntary rating system.

     

     

    WE ALREADY HAVE THESE YOU IDIOTS

  17. SimonBob says:

    "[the video game bill] establishes an advisory council to conduct a study on the connection between interactive media and real-life violence in minors exposed to such media."  — Does this sound to anyone else like they want to do their own version of the Byron report?  That could be a good thing if they come up with the same results.  A big high-profile government issue that says, "games are a-ok!" would do great things for the industry.  ‘Course, it’d be nice if they did the study before they issued the pointless child protection sanctions…


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  18. Keith K says:

    I wish someone would sign a bill into law that requires me to breathe.. Doing it voluntarily all these years just hasn’t had the effect I’ve wanted…

    Sure.. Im still alive… but Im just not alive enough 

     

  19. Rodrigo Ybáñez García says:

    Quick! USA needs a law in case of alien invasion…!!!

    "it’s entirely possible that the industry will just live with it."

    If ESA and the game industry keep in silence, don´t be surpised next year they will pulling out another stupid and even more strong law like this. This is gonna spread like a flu in a classroom.

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  20. Rennie Davis says:

    EZK, You give them too much credit. I’m sure they were not thinking about mods, indie games sold over the Internet, or the like.

    The sentence case language in the material quoted is existing New York law. The material in CAPS is what is being added by the law just signed. So the language regarding alteration after receiving a rating is from the original law, which applied to videos only. They just shoehorned the video game language into it, which I agree makes the language awkward.

     

  21. Adrian Lopez says:

    As I’ve said before, the law only requires ratings for games which have received a rating.

    It’s just plain ridiculous.

  22. Rennie Davis says:

    EZK, That is pretty standard statutory language. It is called a "severability" clause. Without it, when one part of a law is declared unconstitutional, the whole law could be thrown out, not just the offending piece.

    For instance, without this clause, if the "ratings must be displayed" section of this law is overturned, the "new consoles must have parental controls" and advisory commission may also be thrown out. While we might cheer that, the legislature wants to avoid such outcomes so it routinely incorporates severability clauses into multi-part legislation.

     

     

  23. E. Zachary Knight says:

    I know that the purposely left out handhelds and PCs from the law.

    But that section quoted is still confusing. To me it reads that reproducing a film or video game would let you bypass the law. Selling a game with out a rating would let you bypass the law and altering a game after getting a rating would let you bypass the law.

    I think they are trying to make the provision for documentaries, concert recordings and indie games sold over the internet, but it still reads funny.

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  24. Phalanx ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    He’s late.  I wonder what the hold up is?  Did his ego get so inflated he can’t lift his head off his pillow to watch the news?

  25. E. Zachary Knight says:

    I also enjoy it when politicians put this little clause in their bills:

    Severability. If any clause, sentence, paragraph, subdivision  or
       44  part  of  this  act, or the application thereof to any person or circum-
       45  stance, shall be adjudged by any court of competent jurisdiction  to  be
       46  invalid  or  unconstitutional, such judgment shall not affect, impair or
       47  invalidate the remainder thereof, but shall be confined in its operation
       48  to the clause, sentence, paragraph, subdivision or part of this act,  or
       49  in  its  application to the person or circumstance, directly involved in
       50  the controversy in which such judgment shall have been rendered.

    Basically what this means is as follows: We know this bill is unconstitutional, unecessary and will wind up costing the taxpayers money. But we’re going to pass it anyway.

    I say that any bill that includes this provision should fail imediately and the person writing it should be fired.

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    Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
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  26. cppcrusader says:

    It’s the subsequent to recieving a rating part you’re overlooking.  They were actually smart enough to factor out mods entirely.

    The really interesting part is the definition of a game console.

    NOR SHALL THEY INCLUDE A HANDHELD
    15 DEVICE IN WHICH SUCH ENTIRE DEVICE, INCLUDING THE VIEWING SCREEN, IS
    16 DESIGNED TO BE HELD IN ONE`S HAND

    They specifically left out the handhelds.

  27. Fife says:

    Just plain stupidty at work, and at the tax payers expense.

    They don’t need a bill to study the effects of violence on children, they already did it and it came back negative, we need to bash them on the head with this until they get it through their thick skulls that it just doesn’t work.

    Fucking idiots

     

  28. E. Zachary Knight says:

    I love that joke:

    A man comes by banging two pots and yelling. Another man stops him and asks,"What are you doing." The man with the pots says, "Scaring away the pink elephants." The otehr man responds, "But there are no pink elephants." The man with the pots proudly states, "I’m doing a great job, aren’t I."

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    Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
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    Rusty Outlook
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  29. Brokenscope says:

    "That games sold at retail disclose the ratings obtained from the gaming industry’s voluntary rating system."

    It seems to me that if you go get the rating, telling people what it is would be the next step.

  30. catboy_j says:

    Aren’t the only current consoles to not have parental control features not consoles at all, but handhelds?

  31. E. Zachary Knight says:

    Can someone please explain this section for me:

    2. This section shall not apply to a "mail order business" as  defined
       36  in  section  three  hundred  ninety-six-m of this chapter or to any film
       37  which is a reproduction of a motion picture, concert, musical production
       38  or other video event, OR ANY VIDEO GAME, which  has  not  been  given  a
       39  rating, nor shall it apply to any motion picture OR VIDEO GAME which has
       40  been altered subsequent to receiving a rating.

    Just by reading that, it makes it sound like you could simply bypass this whole law just by not giving the game a rating. I may be reading it wrong or something.

    It also seems that you could bypass the law by altering the game after getting a rating.

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    Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
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  32. Anonymous says:

    "The bill will also require that it be bright during the day and dark during the night, that grass is green, birds can fly…"

    Ostrich and emu are breaking the lawwwww! Sorry had to 🙂

  33. Shoehorn O'Plenty says:

    "Governor David A. Paterson signed a package of bills, many of which are focused on public safety and protecting the rights of New York residents. [One of these will] ensure the State will explore the negative effects of violent video games."

    It should say "The state will explore whether or not there are any negative effects of violent video games without jumping to the conclusions reach and preached by luddites who have an agenda."

    "A.11717 / S.6401-A [the video game bill] establishes an advisory council to conduct a study on the connection between interactive media and real-life violence in minors exposed to such media."

    Again, what connection?

    "This bill will also require new video game consoles to have parental lockout features by 2010, and mandate that games sold at retail disclose the ratings obtained from the gaming industry’s voluntary rating system."

    The bill will also require that it be bright during the day and dark during the night, that grass is green, birds can fly and that politicians continue to use the fear mongering spread by the PTCs of our world as a tool to make feel good bills such as this in an attempt to win over the soccer mom voters.

    Business as usual really…

     

  34. mogbert says:

    This is right up there with a law to protect them from Zombies.

    "We have the right to protect our citizens, you DON’T have the right to take that away from them!"

    "But there aren’t any Zombies!"

    "This only goes to show how successful the bill was! We should all get voted a pay raise."

    It doesn’t protect them from anything, the games all have ratings, the consoles all have parental controls. However, now that they are legaly required ratings, maybe they will claim that the ESRB shouldn’t be involved in these legaly required ratings and it should be done by a government comitee.

  35. DavCube ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Cue everybody’s favorite Metropolitan Moron coming in to claim that it’s becuase of his whistle blowing that this got passed.

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  37. harew says:

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  39. desperad0 says:

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    Now I don’t have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

    Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

    Wait… I think that sounds like a good idea.

    But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God’s Sake… least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

  40. oto kirlama says:

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    Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing ttnet vitamin or little and need to start saving costs.

     

  41. ankaranakliyat133 says:

    I hate to break a chain/stream of coments but frankly I can’t be arsed to read the torrent of above comments to see if my point has been raised, but here goes.

    Anyone who thinks that there aren’t any negative effects in playing video games is kidding themselves, fooling themselves because there is a negative impact of everything we do, and is more likely to give the fervant anti-gamers more ammo.

    Lets take an established example shall we, footbal in this case (the soccer kind not american), if we look at all the negative impacts of football, breakage of limbs, straining of muscles mob violence and even death.

    So clearly following this logic, football is the biggest peril that we know to man and should be clearly banned, made ilegal and all footbal couches should be sentanced to life in prisonment for the damage that they have caused society.

    Clearly, this hasn’t happened.

    And why is this?

    Because no study in football has been conducted without also looking into the positive aspects, rather than just the positive ones.

    So anyone who says that games are completely harmless fun is obviously unaware to the geeks who can’t hold down a social life, but clearly, this isn’t true of all gamers, its the same with booze, one of the more social accetable bad habits, nearly everyone drinks but only a small percent of those people go on to comit DUI.

    Another thing here, I see "unconsitional" thrown alot around here, and I also see the violent negative reaction that it is met with almost everywhere, but in this case i feel that the reaction is unjustified, for what I can make out what many in the anti-video game are trying to do is introduce laws which say that you can’t be a 12 year old and walk into a store and buy GTA, and I whole heartily support them in this measure, and if you really feel that your, or your kids rights are being violated, buy it for your kids, really its that simple, the state deems that content A is not suitable for people a below a certain age and believe that the state is wrong in this conclusion, then by all means, buiy your son GTA, if you happen to be said son, I don’t beleiev that as a child that you have the power to make a informed decesion and that the power of state and parent makes that decesion for you.

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  42. nightwng2000 says:

    What of Independant developers/publishers who can’t pay the thousands of dollars to have their game rated?  Shareware/freeware sold/distributed on racks at some retailers (specialty or general stores)?  Are they now banned from offering their products?  What of the compilation discs that offer a couple of hundred low level games on one disc?

    And after seeing hate groups demolish the Anti-Bullying law in NC in favor of the legal Right to Abuse children verbally, mentally, physically, and/or sexually, "Protect The Children against the evil media products!" seriously means squat to me these days.

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  43. Anonymous says:

    "…are directly aimed at protecting children…"

    Every f**king law these crazy nut politicians make seem to have that word "children", or "terrorist" in it.  They arent protecting anything from anyone.  I for one would never let these nut jobs take away civil liberties for some lame ass excuse like that.  I still can’t beleive most people will just sit back and let these tyrants control them.  Wake up sheep.  They arent on your side. And it isnt about the "Children".  Don’t let the Govt raise your kids.  Do it yourself.

  44. ohzeebee says:

    New York is where the statue of liberty is. The contents of the article above are enough to illustrate to what degree our freedoms are being constrained in this day and age. Yes, parents should be able to choose for their children, but I think this is going over the board. It kinda reminds me of the whole Michael Savage/O’Reilly mentality…which by the way is supported by millions of americans…It’s ok for such pepople to make millions off of americans and then buy real estate in north cyprus and other offshore paradises, but of course they are there to "protect the american public". Give me a break! Let’s continue to develop games and let O’Reilly talk away and get a hair transplant (sac ekimi). can anyone tell me when this is going to end? I think one way game developers can help with this cause is by uniting and using SEO to help people find the right information when they do searches on the web. Most gamer websites are in flash, and this causes problems on search engines.

  45. Anonymous says:

    Game Politics, why is it that when it’s an article about a republican you’re always ready to say so, yet when it’s a democrat like this guy there’s no mention of his party affiliation whatsoever?

  46. Prinny says:

    I’d probably be foaming in the mouth chanting the word "hypocrite" if whoever came up with this waste of time still plays MUDs and Pong and all that archaic crap.

    Or maybe he’s a closeted fan of Jack Thompson.

  47. Clever says:

    I’m going to play devil’s advocate here for a second – let me just go grab my hat.

    These laws have an upside – to the uneducated masses perhaps some of them will get off our backs about obscenity and offensive content because now it’s law… in New York… for stuff that already exists… that was voluntary… which meant it cost them nothing… as in $0…

    Have they made any mention of these measures already being in place in any press statements at all? I’ll lose what nanoscopic (that’s what she said) faith I have in government if they didn’t even bother to turn on a console… honestly, this would be akin to saying "All asian people are now required by law to be asian people" and not even investigating if they already are…

    @
    An interesting and valid point sure, but you’re making the distinction of it being the parent’s choice. Government involvement nullifies that – what we have in place is a voluntary structure that is far easier to maintain and is much less costly to parties not completely involved (ie the taxpayers) not to mention a much greater knowledge of the medium at hand. Do you honestly expect a politician to make an informed decision about games when half their constituents think they’re evil and the reason their grandchildren don’t visit. What is the advantage of having tax payer funded government enforcement of a law when a store like Best Buy has the exact same outcome already? What is the point of having costly enforcement of video game ratings when the ESRB already does it? How much do you think the cost would be for an "investigation" into whether or not consoles have parental locks on them? It’s needless (not to mention rather unsettling) government interferance trying to fix something that isn’t broken that we’re concerned about mate….

  48. Rodrigo Ybáñez García says:

    You are right in many forms, and I think there are many forms and things wich have its negative side. For me, office work should be a matter of public health, even more than sedentarism from watch TV or playing games, but there is not any effort to improve the life quality via a stupid law.

    This law is utterly stupid and pointless, because they even can prove what are the negative effects of videogames, no other than "you train to kill people" bu11sh1t.

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  49. I_Kerotan_I says:

    I hate to break a chain/stream of coments but frankly I can’t be arsed to read the torrent of above comments to see if my point has been raised, but here goes.

    Anyone who thinks that there aren’t any negative effects in playing video games is kidding themselves, fooling themselves because there is a negative impact of everything we do, and is more likely to give the fervant anti-gamers more ammo.

    Lets take an established example shall we, footbal in this case (the soccer kind not american), if we look at all the negative impacts of football, breakage of limbs, straining of muscles mob violence and even death.

    So clearly following this logic, football is the biggest peril that we know to man and should be clearly banned, made ilegal and all footbal couches should be sentanced to life in prisonment for the damage that they have caused society.

    Clearly, this hasn’t happened.

    And why is this?

    Because no study in football has been conducted without also looking into the positive aspects, rather than just the positive ones.

    So anyone who says that games are completely harmless fun is obviously unaware to the geeks who can’t hold down a social life, but clearly, this isn’t true of all gamers, its the same with booze, one of the more social accetable bad habits, nearly everyone drinks but only a small percent of those people go on to comit DUI.

    Another thing here, I see "unconsitional" thrown alot around here, and I also see the violent negative reaction that it is met with almost everywhere, but in this case i feel that the reaction is unjustified, for what I can make out what many in the anti-video game are trying to do is introduce laws which say that you can’t be a 12 year old and walk into a store and buy GTA, and I whole heartily support them in this measure, and if you really feel that your, or your kids rights are being violated, buy it for your kids, really its that simple, the state deems that content A is not suitable for people a below a certain age and believe that the state is wrong in this conclusion, then by all means, buiy your son GTA, if you happen to be said son, I don’t beleiev that as a child that you have the power to make a informed decesion and that the power of state and parent makes that decesion for you.

  50. Keegs79 ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Ok, well I guess we know who doesn’t deserve to be re-elected. This politician is a piece of shit. Why the hell are we getting new stupid laws that just undermine rights of free speech. I feel we are losing are freedoms because of idiots and I wonder how much money stupid lobbyist funded that piece of shit of a governer! 

  51. TheEdge says:

    Yikes,not good to be a New York gamer.

    It’ll fail.Politicians are like children:they have to faill several times over and over again to get the message.

    If Ann Coulter cared,I wonder what she would say?

  52. Matt says:

    lol yep.  To not fight it would only set a dangerous precedent that future bills could cite. 

  53. Anonymous says:

    "Will there be a court challenge? We’ve put this question to the ESA; they’ve told us that they are reviewing their options. For a variety of reasons, the main one being that the bill has no real teeth, it’s entirely possible that the industry will just live with it."

    Is it…

    a) Unconstituional?

    b) Unfairly paints videogames as a threat to be regulated?

    The answer is a resounding YES! But we understand, ESA. You’re tired. After the miserable escapade of E3 you just want to take a nap. You go ahead and sleep, and when you wake up we’ll try again to explain to you why big videogame companies are abandoning you.

  54. kurisu7885 (can't log in) says:

    They don’t even need to ask, the companies already do it.

    Not the company’s fault if the parents can’t be bothered to read the manual.

  55. Kalek says:

    I thought retailers already refused to stock unrated games?

    The only useful thing i see here is the child lockout, but thats hardly necessary, im sure if they just ASKED the companies they would do it.

    This law seems kind of frivolous.

  56. chadachada(123) says:

    I got a kick out of this piece:

     WITHOUT  REQUIRING  PROOF  THAT  ANY
    
         PERSON  HAS,  IN  FACT,  BEEN  INJURED  OR  DAMAGED THEREBY.
    
    

    Basically, if a console is sold without parental blocks (which, duh, come on), even if no damage is caused by it, a person can still get in trouble. Just kinda made me giggle when i read it.

     

    This whole bill is stupid, it should be cut down NAO

  57. chadachada(123) says:

    I agree. If the industry doesn’t stand now, then the anti-game lobbyists have already won.

  58. lumi says:

    "For a variety of reasons, the main one being that the bill has no real teeth, it’s entirely possible that the industry will just live with it."

    GP, that is not the point, at all.  Aside from the "slippery slope" factor, the fact of the matter is that this law is unconstitutional.  This is black and white; the ESA should be challenging this law on those grounds alone.

    What happens the next time such a bill comes up?  One with just a little less bark and a little more bite?  They’ll have set the precedent in this bill.  A damaging precedent.

  59. Lloyd says:

    I heard that the bill is basically like "All games must come in a box" in other words requires stuff the industry already does.

  60. Xlorep DarkHelm says:

    Fun line from an oft-maligned movie.

    "I’m not responcabel fer my comuter’s spleling errnors." — Xlorep DarkHelm

  61. GryphonOsiris says:

    Curious that they list VIDEO GAMES and film (just like that) in saying that they should have a rating warning on them, along with the consols having a parental lock system…

    Yep, circle jerk indeed, as all of this is ALREADY in place. What idiots.

     

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  62. Meggie (can't sign in) ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    This bill will also require new video game consoles to have parental lockout features by 2010, and mandate that games sold at retail disclose the ratings obtained from the gaming industry’s voluntary rating system.

    I wonder if this new "advisory council" will examine consoles in 2010 and suddenly realize "they were there all along?" I assume our emails and letters didn’t get read, but then again, he only reads for a short period each day so I’m guessing his secretary put them in a pile somewhere doomed to being ignored. This is the kind of bill that if someone in state government just listened, they’d know it was pointless.

  63. Anonymous says:

    Circle Jerk. Basicly any games that currently have ratings must have ratings. Funny eh? Anything you can think of gaming wise that has one is covered under this as now ‘needing’ one. And the parental locks? Only on ‘new’ concoles and not on handhelds and such.

    The only thing this really does is say "we care! see?! SEE?!" and also makes the group of guys to sit around and talk about how awful videogames are for people and get payed goverment money to do so.

    However, regardless of the ‘teeth’ this has, it should still be objected to and overturned. If it isn’t it will set a dangrous precident for new laws coming in on the subject to go "oh well you let this one stay, why not ours?".

  64. GryphonOsiris says:

    Anyone know what the  the specifics of the bill are, if it is just another circle jerk or is there actually anything of real value?

     

    "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" gaming reviews
    gryphonosiris.blogspot.com

  65. Anonymous says:

    I sincerely hope the gaming groups stand up and kick this law back where it belongs. it’s a waste of time and money! Seriously if our politicans could just take thier heads out of their asses for a few minutes mabye they’d see what they could be working on right now.

  66. tallimar says:

    theyre looking for a hole in the industry’s defenses, methinks, but only after throwing their credibility against a brick wall multiple times.  lets see what the ESA/EMA/ETC. does…

  67. DeusPayne ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Say goodbye to those tax dollars, and say hello to yet another failed bill.

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