New Zealand Clears Morals Group to Petition for GTA IV Ban

July 22, 2008 -

Nearly 90 days post-launch, Grand Theft Auto IV is still raising the ire of watchdog groups.

The New Zealand Herald reports that the Society for the Promotion of Community Standards has been granted permission to appeal GTA IV's R18 rating. The group notes on its website that the appeal will be made to New Zealand's Office of Film & Literature Classification.

The SPCS quotes from a decision issued yesterday by Brendan Boyle (left), New Zealand's Secretary of Internal Affairs:

I found no evidence in the [SPCS] application to suggest that it was vexatious... I then considered whether the application for leave was frivolous (trivial, needless or unfounded, or so untenable that it could not succeed) under the Guidelines... I found that the application for leave from the SPCS appeared to be tenable in that it could possibly succeed. The application was therefore not frivolous. It is also my view that the SPCS has established an arguable prima facie case for the application to be considered by the Board.

Since R18 is New Zealand's most stringent rating, a successful appeal by the SPCS would result in a national ban of the exceedingly popular game.

GP: Thanks to GamePolitics reader Solufien for the tip!


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Re: New Zealand Clears Morals Group to Petition for GTA IV Ban

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YES.

Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

Re: New Zealand Clears Morals Group to Petition for GTA IV Ban

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Re: New Zealand Clears Morals Group to Petition for GTA IV Ban

Morality: Stopping you from seeing, playing or doing anything I dont like. This is an R18+ which means only adults can buy it. Adults can make their own decisions, especially when it comes to moral decisions.

Conservatives dont want "morals" they want tyrany and freedoms suppressed. I am supprised this is happening in NZ, I thought they were alot more liberal than Aus.

Most likley nobody will listen to these bible bashes.

Re: New Zealand Clears Morals Group to Petition for GTA IV Ban

There are moral gaurdians everywhere.

Like rats...

-ConstantNeophyte: always the newb, ALWAYS.

-ConstantNeophyte: always the newb, ALWAYS.

Re: New Zealand Clears Morals Group to Petition for GTA IV Ban

And like flies on rats they come and spread their disgusting disease to innocent people irregardless of consequences or (ironically) whether it would be moral or not.

Although unlike a real disease their infectious bile doesn't seem to effect die hard christians or other die hard 'moral' (I use the term only as an identifier not as a means to describe them) crusaders.

---------------------------------------------------- Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

Re: New Zealand Clears Morals Group to Petition for GTA IV Ban

It got an R18, why ban it?

Re: New Zealand Clears Morals Group to Petition for GTA IV Ban

Hmm, first post was eaten (because of the link to SPCS' website?)

Anyway, the reason for the banning is that the game doesn't fit their ideals, that and they have a petty grudge against our Cheif Censor and his "Gay Agenda"...

Check out their website: just google "Society for the Promotion of Community Standards"

-ConstantNeophyte: always the newb, ALWAYS.

-ConstantNeophyte: always the newb, ALWAYS.

Now I'm confused...

Hmm, I just checked the SPCS' website and they are appealing the rating given to the US version, which as I understand it was the one rated by our censors but not the one sold. We ended up getting the same cut version as the Aussies (Grrrr).

So even if their appeal is succesful the version currently sold shouldn't be banned as it is the tamer version. Having said that though, I'm still unclear why the cut version of GTA IV we got was rated as R18 when it was cut specifically to obtain the R15 rating (or whatever) in Australia?

Also on the subject of hipocrisy: While they are appealing the rating of GTA they also appealed against the rating of a movie about Christianity which contained violence and got the film lowered from R16 to R13.

So violence is okay, as long as its suppors their message? Nice.

-ConstantNeophyte: always the newb, ALWAYS.

-ConstantNeophyte: always the newb, ALWAYS.

Re: New Zealand Clears Morals Group to Petition for GTA IV Ban

I'm assuimg R18 means 18 year olds ... so in New Zealand are they saying their Adults are so weak will and weak minded that the horrors of playing a video game with animated graphic is to horrible to beyond the scope of their intelligence that it will crack the very reality they live in causing them moral, emotional, and physical damage?

Re: New Zealand Clears Morals Group to Petition for GTA IV Ban

I think it's more of a bragging rights / image thing. If you can say that you got GTA banned, you'd get major kudos from fellow narrow-minders.

Re: New Zealand Clears Morals Group to Petition for GTA IV Ban

correct Jeremy, but that's watchdog groups for ya...
To blinded by their own ambition and sense of self-importance to see that it's already labeled as high as it'll go and won't be sold to minors. (atleast not often, I doubt the measure is 100% effective)

Porn is so much more wholesome.
Silly, Hypocritical goons, all of them...

Re: New Zealand Clears Morals Group to Petition for GTA IV Ban

Which means Rockstar are going to make bumper profits for the next few weeks.

Where would their profits be without morality watchdogs I wonder?

Re: New Zealand Clears Morals Group to Petition for GTA IV Ban

I have always wondered where their game would be with out the nonstop watchdogs screaming havoc.  After all the first GTA sucked the second one was eh the third one was the second one but "3D"!.!.! and frankly all of them after that were number three rewraped with one or two new items.  In fact other than the sandbox concept which was being developed by other companies (and you might even claim other games had already capitalized on the concept) the game is just not that great; the storylines are usually lacking (imo) and the over all gameplay is really lacking (once again imo).  But I will always give them kudos for driving Jack nuts and pushing the envelope on what should be allowed in games (I come from a time when hidden sex scenes is what sold the game in the first place not outraged the buyer, good old Larry looking for love and never finding it =( )

 
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