Variety Lists Game-Legislating California Senator as "Vidgame Maven"

July 28, 2008 -

Rather inexplicably, Variety has included California State Sen. Leland Yee in a list of "vidgame mavens."

Yee, of course, is the architect of his state's 2005 video game law which was ruled unconstitutional by a federal judge last year. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has appealed the ruling, which is still under review by the U.S. Circuit Court.

While we imagine that Variety meant something along the lines of "influential people in regard to video games," and Yee certainly qualifies in that regard, here's what they wrote:

Impact '08
In Variety's first in-depth look at the vidgame mavens who drive this dynamic sector, we spotlight the talents and executives behind the year's most exciting success stories...

Included in the list are the likes of Reggie Fils-Aime of Nintendo, Gabe and Tycho from Penny Arcade, famed designer Will Wright, and a whole bunch other industry types. And Yee...

The notation next to Yee's name reads:

California State Sen. Yee has been gunning for games like "Manhunt 2" and "Grand Theft Auto IV" for years.
 

UPDATE: Variety's Ben Fritz writes that he heard from Jack Thompson, who was supposedly whining over not being included on the list...


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Thanks good job;

Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing travesti or little and need to start saving costs. and dizi izle

YES.

Now I don't have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

Wait... I think that sounds like a good idea.

But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God's Sake... least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

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I'm all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there's one thing about this app that has me scratching my head.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area.  If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what's stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?

But majority araba kiralama of their outrage araç kiralama stems from what it could DO TO children, not the content itself.  Talk to one of these people and you'll find they don't think any books kiralık araba should be banned from children.  Mention American Psycho and they talk about kiralık araç the redeeming value of using imagination to construct a story.  Reading, no matter what the content, is largely viewed as a consequenceless activity for people of any age.  The reason why I mention American Psycho is because of the content itself.  Gaming never has and likely never will have any scenes where someone has sex with a severed head.  Not gonna happen.  Yet despite this, they'll fight tooth and nail to protect their children from two boys kissing in Bully but whatever they read is harmless... yeah.

The entire arguement is kiralık oto based upon a social normality inflicted by luddites who can't figure out the controls for Halo so it's frightening and terrifying and obviously the cause of youth violence on the rise even though, in reality, it's in decline (which is actually a HUGE suprise given minibüs kiralama the economies status).  In  a perfect world, we would have parents that actually parent.  The idea of sales restrictions on media on oto kiralama any form to accomidate parental unwillingness to get involved with their child's life is the real problem to me.  Here I am, 32 years old, and being held up at a self-scan rent a car needing to show ID before I can buy a $10 M rated game all because Soccer Momthra can't be bothered to look at the crap Billy Genericallystupidson does in his free time.  It's too hard for her, so I have to suffer?

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You are indeed correct that Yee doesnt fit that description of the people on our videogames impact list. There are a handful of "outside the box" (i.e. not in the industry) people on the list including Yee and we didn't write the description of the list to include them, which is our bad. But c'mon, obviously we're not passing a value judgement on Yee's legislation and general attitude. As Dennis well knows, and grants in this third paragraph after initially calling our choice "inexplicable," we chose Yee because of the impact he (and the political forces he represents) are having on the industry. The error was in the general description, not the choice.

Although I do like the theory of one of the commenters that Yee has a Hollywood CEO in his pocket and that CEO took the time to personally influence us to include him. It nicely transitions this thread from knee-jerk reactionary to knee-jerk conspiratorial.

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"UPDATE: Variety's Ben Fritz writes that he heard from Jack Thompson, who was supposedly whining over not being included on the list..."

DAMMIT. Dennis, I was going to call that first! XD
I knew it was going to happen, but i didn't know it was going to be this soon!

Oh, and Mr. Thompson, that article you copied and pasted doesn't mention violent entertainment of AN SORT WHATSOEVER. And that's talking about CANADA. As in NOT THE UNITED STATES. I know you're all for protecting the children, but how about you use crime statistics from the country you LIVE in?

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I can't tell if they are implying that he was successful, or if they are implying that he is doing something good for the video game industry. Either way they are incorrect.

"Also, I find it ironic that the man formerly known for playing characters such as "the Terminator" and "Mr. Freeze" is trying to resurrect a bill legislating violent video games."

If memory serves, his image was also portrayed in the Terminator 3 video game that came out in 2003, shortly after he took office. Sure it was rated T, but even so I feel it hurts any credibility he has in standing up against violent games.

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I stopped taking this article seriously the moment I saw the word "vidgames." That's right, GP, you lost me at the first sentence.

NOTE TO MAGAZINE PUBLISHERS: making up terrible new "slang" words and terms by compounding proper names and already-compound nouns does not appeal to anyone. It makes you people look retarded.

Please. Stop. Now.

Also, I find it ironic that the man formerly known for playing characters such as "the Terminator" and "Mr. Freeze" is trying to resurrect a bill legislating violent video games. What next? Is Peter Weller gonna decide to join the PTC?

(Forbid it, God!)

 

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If the gaming  industry survives for another 10years without major laws oulawing violence, we'll be fine.

With so many young adults understanding the gaming industry, its only a matter of time before older idiots get overwhelmed \ retire... Then WE'LL BE IN CONTROL!!!  muahahaHAHAHA

(our plans to take over the world is almost complete!)

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One day, non-gamers will say something right/informed about gamers and games. Till then, patience.

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It's Variety. You expected articles that made sense? Variety's just a propaganda machine for the big hollywood companies, that was proven back during the writer's strike. If that Senator has one of those CEOs in her pocket, that's probably all it'd take to get her name pushed as a success story.

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"Her" pocket? Yee is a man

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If you read the title, "Video Games Impact Report", then the choice makes sense. If however you read on, "we spotlight the talents and executives behind the year's most exciting success stories", then it ceases to make sense...

-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...

-- If your wiimote goes snicker-snack, check your wrist-strap...

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I am completely confused by this. Are they saying he is somehow a success in the games industry? His law was ruled unconstitutional. It may be in appeal, but that is far from success.

Variety just keeps on showing over and over again, that they know nothing about video games.

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I was wondering that too, even if he made the list for his negative impact, he's not really what you'd define as successful.

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he must have a time machine, i guess
-The Bird

-The Bird

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How could he be gunning for GTA IV for years if it just came out this April...

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Yee has been gunning for games like "Manhunt 2" and "Grand Theft Auto IV" for years.

oh look at that they used the word like which means:of the same form, appearance, kind, character, amount, etc.  So apparently he doesn't need a time machine for that to make sense.

please learn to read

----Apparently our plan to just sit around and wait for all the stupid people to die isn't going as well as planned

----Apparently our plan to just sit around and wait for all the stupid people to die isn't going so well

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So they're

a) Being ironic

b) suggesting that the industry could do without adult games.

 

I sure hope it's a).

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I'm inclined to go with c) being moronic.

Considering that this is a magazine made to showcase hollywood buzz, I don't expect much from them in the field of video game buisness.

 
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