UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

August 17, 2008 -

What’s black and white and read all over?

A newspaper, but if veteran games industry marketer Bruce Everiss has anything to say about it, that should not include the UK’s Daily Mail:

They really are just trying to sell newspapers with sensationalism because nobody with a brain can be stupid enough to believe what they have written.

Everiss took umbrage with an article concerning Madworld, Sega’s upcoming bloody brawler that’s being developed exclusively for the Wii. The Daily Mail suggested that the game would tarnish the Wii’s family-friendly image and quoted a UK watchdog group that is calling for a BBFC ban on the as-yet unreleased title.

For his part, Everiss offered a point-by-point counter to the Mail’s claims. 

  • If a Wii is family friendly then presumably a DVD player is. And you can play totally execrably disgusting content on a DVD player.
  • Game content is mild compared to film and book content. MadWorld just pales into insignificance compared to what is on these other media.
  • Games are age rated with the excellent PEGI system. Every parent can clearly see this on the front of the packaging...
  • There is plenty of equally violent content already available for the Wii. The Mail are just exposing their total ignorance with this...

-Reporting from San Diego, GamePolitics correspondent Andrew Eisen...

 


Comments

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

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The entire arguement is kiralık oto based upon a social normality inflicted by luddites who can't figure out the controls for Halo so it's frightening and terrifying and obviously the cause of youth violence on the rise even though, in reality, it's in decline (which is actually a HUGE suprise given minibüs kiralama the economies status).  In  a perfect world, we would have parents that actually parent.  The idea of sales restrictions on media on oto kiralama any form to accomidate parental unwillingness to get involved with their child's life is the real problem to me.  Here I am, 32 years old, and being held up at a self-scan rent a car needing to show ID before I can buy a $10 M rated game all because Soccer Momthra can't be bothered to look at the crap Billy Genericallystupidson does in his free time.  It's too hard for her, so I have to suffer?

Shock and horror

There is plenty of equally violent content already available for the Wii. The Mail are just exposing their total ignorance with this...

The daily mail ignorent?

Never!

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

And there we have it folks, one of the smart people in the industry who's words will probably never get treated with the respect they deserve. It's about damn time Nintendo got rid of that gay "family-friendly" image. I hate it, it stops them from publishing awesome games.

-- Joshua Smellie

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

Could you kinda phrase that WITHOUT sounding like a blind fanboy? Phrases like "it stops them from publishing awesome games." doesn't really help the image of mature gamers.

This coming from someone who owns both a Wii and PS3.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

Is that really Thompson? If so, why does he keep changing his user name?

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

I imagine it's beacause GP blocked his old username.  Jack burned through at least fifty Livejournal accounts before Dennis moved the site off that system.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

EZK said he isn't banned but rather he's trying to bypass the spam filter or somesuch; don't take my word for it, I just remembered reading something along those lines.

I don't know why he'd want to do such a thing other than to be a nuisance.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

Jack, you're setting the worst example for your family by acting this way.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

If he cared about that he would have given up on this long ago and moved on., and NEVER woudl have used them to gain sympathy or to try and "prove" his "point"

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

I notice the percentage of stories Thompson replies to increases in direct proportion to the amount of trouble he's in with the Florida Bar.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

I am curious about something though.  Has Jack, since this mess began, tried to disprove or even make mention of the charges against him?  In a way by not trying to defend himself from the accusations he pretty much has declared himself guilty.  It is like some piss poor trick at sleight of hand to get the focus off of the charges he obviously has no defense against.

 

So Jack, let me word this as simple as possible so you would understand it.  Say you rob a liquor store and are arrested.  Then it turns out the arresting officer gets fired for downloading internet porn on a precient computer.  You will not be released from having to attend trial and be free to go.  So if Tunis is removed from your case as you so wish then another judge will be appointed for your career flogging.

 

The guilt of another does not prove your innocence.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

I was preparing to type a large rant about this very issue, but after I saw you beat me to it I thought I'd chime in here. As mcuh as everything else about the man sucks, this is what kills me. He has never once tried to defend his actions (outside of his tying them to his "beliefs), but instead elects to point the finger at everybody and everything else in an attempt to distract. Even his claims that what he does is governed by this Jewish zombie guy some people like are not so much defensive as they are excuses. I'm convinced this pattern of behavior can only be explained in two ways:

1. Jack Thompson is a psychopath and does not understand causation; or

2. Jack Thompson knows that he is guilty of every charge ever leveled against him, and sees no point in defending his actions.

I've got my money on number 1.

 

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

3. Both.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

This is part of the reason behind the Supremes sanctioning him, to quote one judge 'All I see are accusations of an over-arching conspiracy.'

Thompson hasn't, even once, tried to argue that he doesn't deserve to be disbarred, but like a school shooter, he knows he's done for, but is intent on taking as many people with him as possible in order to get his name in the history books.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

It's been obvious getting his name out there is all he cares about.

As to his defvense, well, he did storm out when he had the chance to defend himself, voluntarily gave it up, and is still trying to play the victim. Not a day after he said this case was all his.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

Yup, typical Thompson, the more he screws up, the more he lashes out at other people.

Too weak to be able to accept responsibility you see, it's always someone else's fault.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

@DavCube

 Nuh Uh! There is no reply button! How dare you try to deceive them!

 

-Entertainment isn't the reason the world sucks. It's the reason we know the world sucks. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard researchers Larry Kutner&Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Ripping of Madworld

......you're kinda not setting a good example here.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

 @JT Provide link and stats or disappear!

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

he wont, because he has no proof

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

I read that as "he[] wont [use the reply button], because he has no proof". I was going to offer a screenshot.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Um, dude. There's a reply button. You can use it. Just a thought.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Actually, Mr. Everiss appears to be, by his own words, a complete ignoramus.  Everyone who studies this issue knows that interactive violence is more likely to modify behavior than passively-consumed media, such as cinema.  Duh.

Secondly, of course Nintendo has cultivated a family-friendly ethos.  How could anyone have missed that over the past 15 years?

What we have here is simply a pro-game industry flak who cites no authority for his positions.  On the other hand, please see Dr. John Murray's brain scan studies at Harvard reported in peer-reviewed medical journals that prove precisely why Wii + virtual violence = death.

If you gamers don't like facts, then tough.  Jack Thompson 

 

 

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Secondly, of course Nintendo has cultivated a family-friendly ethos.  How could anyone have missed that over the past 15 years?

It could have been missed by those who were busy playing...

Alone in the Dark (Wii), Bio F.R.E.A.K.S (N64), Blood Omen 2: Legacy of Kain (GC), BloodRayne (GC), Call of Duty 3: (Wii), Conker's Bad Fur Day (N64), CSI: Hard Evidence: (Wii),  Die Hard Vendetta (GC), Doom 64 (N64), Doom Troopers (SNES), Duke Nuke 'Em 64 (N64), Far Cry Vengeance (Wii), Forsaken (N54), Geist (GC), Gun (GC), Hexen (N64), Hitman 2: Silent Assasin (GC), Judge Dredd: Dredd Vs Death (GC), Killer7 (GC), Lethal Enforcers (SNES), Manhunt 2 (Wii), Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes (GC), Mortal Kombat 4 (N64), Mortal Kombat: Deception (GC), Nightmare Creatures (N64), No More Heroes (Wii), Quake (N64), Red Steed (Wii), Resident Evil 0 (GC), Resident Evil (GC), Resident Evil 2 (GC), REsident Evil 3: Nemesis (GC), Resident Evil 4 (Wii), Resident Evil: Code Veronica (GC), Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles (Wii), Shadow Man (N64), Spawn: Armageddon (GC), Total Recall (NES), Turok: Dinosaur Hunter (N64), True Crime: Streets of LA (GC), Weaponlord (SNES), Wolfenstein 3d (SNES)  (that should cover the 15 years)

... or one of the many other non 'family-friendly' games available on a Nintendo system.

John Beyer's statement that "I believe it will spoil the family fun image of the Wii." is clearly coming from someone who hasn't got the first clue as to what they are talking about.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Is it that you can't read, or you won't read, Thompson? Are you dyslexic? Does your mental disorder prevent you from understanding simple concepts you don't want to deal with?

Can't counter his arguments so make one up that you can, is that it? Where is he saying that Nintendo has not cultivated a family-friendly ethos? He's not denying that, he's saying that being family-friendly is not exclusive to offering mature content. Thus the DVD argument.

As you wouldn't know, Nintendo has been around for over an hundred years and been making video games since 30 years. Your choice of 15 years as another one of these arbitrary numbers to come out of your ass is ironic, considering until 15 years ago there could even be an argument, but 15 years ago, the ESRB was created to address just this situation, making this whole thing a complete non-issue.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Actually, what was it again? I'm pretty sure I read about an experiment where the results were as following?

- A small group became much calmer after playing a violent video game.
- A small group became much less calm.
- A very large group stayed more or less the same.

Results showed that both those who calmed down a lot and those who became more aggrevated, were fucked up to begin with, even before they gamed during the test.

In other words, video games don't ruin people. Ruined people and those around them blame video games rather than admitting their own guilt. It's just like people who kill their ex then themselves, nobody has the guts to take responsibility anymore, everyone blames others.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Congratulations.  I find you almost as entertainingly stupid and crazy as Jack Chick.  Duh.

Ben Larson.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Jack Chick is hilarious, no wonder he was a recluse, it's obvious he couldn't deal with reality.

Because, of course, I always draw a pentagram on the floor and set up an Altar when I'm about to play D&D....

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Do you know what gives me a real belly-laugh every time I read one of your posts Thompson?

Your Ignorance.

Apparently, anyone who sides with the gaming industry must have an agenda, whereas anyone who sides against it is as pure as the Driven snow and don't have any agenda whatsoever.

You are a transparent phoney, and that's why you've been losing friends left, right and centre, despite your ongoing denials.

Personally, I think it all dates back to that time you were stupid enough to let someone test-drive your car and you never saw it again, I think that finally triggered your own physcopathic episode, and you've been trying to prove you are not an idiot ever since. Pity you are still waiting for success.

To quote Henry Rollins when talking about you:

'His thing is he wants to get rid of the weed by chopping off the top of the dandelion.

He doesn't want to get the roots. So I put it to him like this. Do you think perhaps you wouldn't have someone like Luther Campbell if you had educated him, given him a good home and taught him how to read and write and offered him the same opportunity that you and I had? Maybe that's more interesting to write about than calling women bitches all the time. And don't you think maybe that Luther Campbell's pretty fucking amazing for coming out of a ghetto with very little education and winding up a multi-millionaire?

I don't think you have done it and I don't think I've done it. So I put it to him and he didn't have an answer. All he's interested in doing is just turning lights out and saying he's solved the problem by taking 2 Live Crew records off the shelves. That won't stop rape and cruelty to children and women like he says it will. He tries to come off as this good guy who's doing you all these favors and he's not doing any favors. He's this white-bread chickenshit fucking Christian guy who's never been to a ghetto.'

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Lol, Arwen?  Having gender-confusion issues as well, JT?

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

On the other hand, please see Dr. John Murray's brain scan studies at Harvard reported in peer-reviewed medical journals that prove precisely why Wii + virtual violence = death.

John Murray is a Kansas State University professor, not Harvard.
 
His big brain scan study was done in collaboration with the Mind Science Foundation and at the University of Texas Sciences Center, not Harvard.
 
The study itself had 8 kids (ages 8 to 13) watch less than 10 minutes of either National Geographic or Rocky IV.  The study concluded that violence is arousing and engaging to the brain.  Said Murray:
 
“In the results of our initial, and very limited study, of children's brain activations while viewing entertainment video violence, suggest that the violence is arousing, engaging and is treated by the brain as a real event that is threatening and worthy of being stored for long-term memory in an area of the brain that makes 'recall' of the events almost instantaneous.
 
This is as 'scary' as it gets; even more than an "R" rated slasher film. Here, we see normal children storing away violent images in a manner that could be used to 'guide' future behavior. Naturally, this is only the beginning of the story and we need to conduct much more extensive research on neuroimaging and violence, but we have identified the reasons why parents and politicians, people of all political persuasions, should take action to reduce media violence.”
 

Not Harvard.

 

Has nothing to do with video games.

 

Does absolutely nothing to prove "Wii + virtual violence = death."

 

 

Try again Thompson.

 

 

Andrew Eisen

 

P.S. - Actual links to what I'm talking about will show up in a reply to this post as soon as they escape moderation hell.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Here's the link to what I'm talking about above:

https://www.ksu.edu/research/articles/archive/murray.html

http://www.k-state.edu/infotech/news/archive/2003/murray61803.html

Thompson,

If, somehow, I have the wrong John Murray or wrong brain scan study, please feel free to provide a link to the specific information you're referencing.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Hmmm nothing better to do... If so might I suggest you read all the research out there rather than cherry picking and distorting to suit your needs?

Also, even passively consumed media fires mirror neurons... guess we'd better keep our eyes shut in front of the TV huh?

Gift.

PS. Arguing from authority is a logical fallacy...

PPS. You might want to read this (it cites Murray btw), of course I expect you to do so while performing the psychological equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "lalalalala". :D

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Also, why aren't you attacking the movie industry? Movies are interactive. On a DVD player I can replay the goriest scene of a movie all I want, and what of those "choose youe ornw ending" movies. Those are interactive. Where's cry to ban those?

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

don't forget the bible. That is just ripe with excessive violence, murder, hardcore smut, incest, rape, mutilation, voyeurism, watersports, fornication, adultery, etc. and in graphic detail too.

I'm not trying to sound like Pandralisk here, but the point is while religious parents have no problem blaming secular sources in corrupting children, they have a blind spot when it comes to that most corrupting of influences ~ their beloved bible.

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

You have an interactive version of the bible?

That would explain all the divisions in the Abrahamic set of religions.

 

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

well, you can choose to reread the same passages over and over again, kind of like hitting the rewind button on a DVD player

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

We love facts!

You're the one who hates facts( I can't keep count of how many times you've lied to people, yourself included). Oh, and "Wii+virtual violence=death" just reeks of intelligence. On a final note, I'd like to add that various studies have shown that the interactive nature of games makes them less influential because of the constant reminder that it's fake.

 

-Entertainment isn't the reason the world sucks. It's the reason we know the world sucks. For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007)Grand Theft Childhood, by Harvard researchers Larry Kutner&Cheryl Olson

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

You know what I say to that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eWFj1KShcI

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

"What we have here is simply a pro-game industry flak who cites no authority for his positions"

So says the, being, who never links to his own sources. For someone who believes that gamers can't read, you seem rather afraid of us, you know, reading those reports.

"Secondly, of course Nintendo has cultivated a family-friendly ethos.  How could anyone have missed that over the past 15 years?"

Indeed they have, however, this is NOT the first M rated game they've had on their hardware. Mortal Kombat 3, as someone nstated, I think was their first. Mortla Kombat 2 had the blood removed, and thanks to that partly the Genesis version of the game beat the pants off the SNES version. Doom as well as Duke Nukem has their own releases on the Nintendo 64, as did Goldeneye, and Turok, the most violente game on that system IMO.

And don't get me started on Conker's Bad Fur Day. I think that was the most offensive one to date. IF any parent got that for their child because it looked kid friendly due to the cartoon squirrel o nthe front, well, since the rating was right there, a big fat M, I have no sympathy for them.

So yes, Nintendo has had games rated Mature on their systems before. They simpyl realized they were alienating a potential audience.

And remember, Thompson, the Wii has Manhunt 2. How successful were you in stopping that again?

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Well, in all fairness to Nintendo, they didn't really 'cultivate' a family reputation, it was just that their biggest selling games were the family-oriented ones. Nintendo consoles have been advertised for 'all the family', but that's what Thompson always gets wrong, he assumes 'all the family' is anyone under 12.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

True. Somehow the phrase "fun for the whole family" seems to be excuding adults and teens.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

they mixed up "Family-friendly" and "Fun for the whole family" when they're actually 2 different things.

Family-friendly = everything must be acceptable for younger audiences

Fun for the whole family = not everything has to, but it can't be exclusively for older audiences

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Mr. Thompson, you are the most entertaining troll I have ever seen.  Thanks to you, I can improve my mood in a few seconds when I'm not in a good mood.  Thank you for providing so much comedy and entertainment.  For free too.  Thank you, kind sir.  I have not seen a better comedian.  The fact that you are serious makes it even more comedic.  Better than TV, I say.  I hope that you shall provide even more entertaining trolling after you are disbarred. 

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

It's kind of a relief when you see Thompson post to be honest.

You read about all these bigots and dictators on the News, you hear about acts of 'cleansing', where someone believes that a certain kind of person should be executed for what they believe, you hear about people destroying rights in every corner of the globe.

And then you hear Jack Thompson. He believes all of the above things, and yet somehow manages to be a censors version of a Keystone cop, running frantically after the Bandwagon, having fallen off, and swinging wildly with his baton, making contact with himself and people on his own side, and completely missing his target time and again.

You end up wishing that some of the other Dictators in the world were as humorously useless as Thompson.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

You are quoting 'facts' that have been proved to be falsely represented by yourself time and time again.

Nintendo did not 'cultivate a family ethos' idiot, it was that their 'family' style games such as Donkey Kong and Mario were famous before they released their first console, they were Flagship characters.

As for the brain scans, they've been proved inconclusive so many times it's unbelievable.

If Jack Thompson doesn't like Facts, then tough. Gamers.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Interactive violence is more likely to modify behaviour than passively-consumed media? Then why are you not going after paintballing and firing ranges, or boxing gyms?

...who cites no authority... like you do?

Children’s Brain Activations While Viewing Televised Violence Revealed by fMRI, http://www.mindscience.org/murray_mediapsych.html

This pattern of results may suggest five conclusions: TV violence viewing in children (a) is emotionally arousing; (b) leads to activation of a network of regions involved in attention, arousal, and salience; (c) recruits a phylogenetically-old brain system involved in the detection of fear or threat in the environment; (d) is accompanied by activation of limbic and neocortical systems likely to be involved in the episodic encoding and retrieval of the environmental context associated with such threat; and (e) is accompanied by activation of premotor regions possibly involved in the programming of motor plans (fight or flight). The relevance of these findings [is that] a more primitive system within his or her brain (amygdala, pulvinar) may not discriminate between real violence and entertainment fictional violence.

The study suggests that the brain is more active when watching action sequences, and that it ignites the "what would I do in this situation?" response in viewers. It also suggests that if you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction, you might apply fictitious rules to reality. That's why we don't let minors play violent games unobserved.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

"Everyone who studies this issue knows that interactive violence is more likely to modify behavior than passively-consumed media, such as cinema."

EVERYONE? Where's that study that said the interactivity made it less likely to have an impact (I know it exists)?

But the next question is how much of an impact does the behavior modification have? According to state judges, not enough to be significant (but no matter anyone who disagrees with you MUST be on a payroll even though such an action would have them at risk for disbarment).

Oh and we can play dueling studies all day such as this one which was also published in a scientific journal.

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2007/02/19/researcher-finds-scant-evidence-linking-violent-games-with-aggressive-behavior

or this one which was published in the "Psychology, Crime and Law journal"

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Most-kids-unaffected-by-violent-games/2007/04/01/1175366055463.html

---------------------------------------------------- Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

Is that the one where they did about 15 minutes of study per subject? As in, not nearly enough time to create the long-term effects that that you so yearn to hear?

'Everyone who studies this'? Who's everybody? I know it's hard to accept, but you're not 'everybody.'

You're one to talk about not liking facts, Mr. "I can make death threats over the Interweb and You Can't."

David "DavCube" Gagnon, Mature Human Being, and YOU'RE NOT.

Re: UK Game Industry Guy Refutes Newspaper's Riping of Madworld

I have no problem with facts, JohnnieBoy... the only problem is you aren't dealing in them.  Take, for example, the common myth that the interactivity of the violence somehow makes it much more damaging.  Amusing take... however, by this idea, football and hockey should be outlawed much faster than violent games because some scans have shown much higher aggression right after a game of football or even soccer than passive entertainment like video games and tv. 

And fact of the matter is, what the scans show is very dismissive because few act upon the scans.  Human morality steps into place at some point.  You may be sexually aroused by another female while at a party with your wife, and scans would show that, but do you act on this impulse?  When I'm cut off on traffic, I get aggrevated certainly, and yet no firearm rains molten death upon the source of the aggrevation.  Just as I may enter a heated arguement, but I never throw my fists around to inflict harm.  What the impulse or thoughts are is completely irrelevant to the fact that few actually act upon those thoughts.  And as proven before, violent people enjoy violent media.  Pacifists enjoy violent media as well.  But violent media never causes a violent person.  This has yet to be proven.

But I know, I know.  I just countered an ignorant arguement with reason and intelligence.  So I'll be snapped at and called an ignorant gamer.  Who also happens to be an artist as a professional trade, a musician, and a writer.  Oh well, such is life.  But hey, I have a job.  How goes YOUR job hunt?

 
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MaskedPixelantehttp://www.joystiq.com/2014/04/18/playstation-99-cent-sale-discounts-tokyo-jungle-super-stardust/ Weekend long PSN flash sale. So much stuff is 99 cents for the rest of the weekend.04/18/2014 - 5:59pm
Adam802http://www.polygon.com/2014/4/18/5627928/newtown-video-game-addiction-forum04/18/2014 - 4:14pm
Matthew Wilsonit is a video talking about why certain games/products/consoles do well, and others do not. he back it up with solid research.04/18/2014 - 3:56pm
Andrew EisenI'm not keen on blind links. What is it?04/18/2014 - 3:45pm
Matthew Wilsonthis is worth a whatch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXcr6sDRtw&list=PL35FE5C4B157509C904/18/2014 - 3:43pm
MaskedPixelanteNumber 3: Night Dive was brought to the attention of the public by a massive game recovery, and yet most of their released catalogue consists of games that other people did the hard work of getting re-released.04/17/2014 - 8:46pm
MaskedPixelanteNumber 2: If Humongous Entertainment wanted their stuff on Steam, why didn't they talk to their parent company, which does have a number of games published on Steam?04/17/2014 - 8:45pm
MaskedPixelanteNumber 1: When Night Dive spent the better part of a year teasing the return of true classics, having their big content dump be edutainment is kind of a kick in the stomach.04/17/2014 - 8:44pm
Matthew Wilsonhttp://www.giantbomb.com/articles/jeff-gerstmann-heads-to-new-york-takes-questions/1100-4900/ He talks about the future games press and the games industry. It is worth your time even though it is a bit long, and stay for the QA. There are some good QA04/17/2014 - 5:28pm
IanCErm so they shouldn't sell edutainment at all? Why?04/17/2014 - 4:42pm
MaskedPixelanteNot that linkable, go onto Steam and there's stuff like Pajama Sam on the front-page, courtesy of Night Dive.04/17/2014 - 4:13pm
Andrew EisenOkay, again, please, please, PLEASE get in a habit of linking to whatever you're talking about.04/17/2014 - 4:05pm
MaskedPixelanteAnother round of Night Dive teasing and promising turns out to be stupid edutainment games. Thanks for wasting all our time, guys. See you never.04/17/2014 - 3:44pm
Matthew WilsonAgain the consequences were not only foreseeable, but very likely. anyone who understood supply demand curvs knew that was going to happen. SF has been a econ/trade hub for the last hundred years.04/17/2014 - 2:45pm
Andrew EisenMixedPixelante - Would you like to expand on that?04/17/2014 - 2:43pm
 

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