11-year-old Girl Saves Family, Credits GTA

Okay, so a pre-teen probably shouldn’t be playing Grand Theft Auto.

But, as MyWebTimes reports, 11-year-old Audrey Plique’s GTA gaming sessions may have saved her family’s life after their car rolled over on the night of August 27th. Karen Norris, Audrey’s mom, explains:

She just knew, from playing ‘Grand Theft Auto.’ She saw on there that when a car rolls over, it can blow up. She knew that could happen to us…


She showed the kind of bravery and courage you don’t expect from an 11-year-old. She stayed composed. She sounded upset, but she knew the things she had to get done to help her parents and her siblings.

Audrey was just glad that she was able to save her family. It’s unclear whether she saved her progress in GTA.

Via: Kotaku

GP: Thanks to several GP readers who pointed us toward this story. And, why yes, I do suck at PhotoShop

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  1. David_Ikari says:

    I don’t understand why you must use sarcasm to make your point. It’s a good one, don’t ruin it like that.

    We’re talking about an 11 year old girl who worried for her family. She did what she could to keep them safe. Maybe she knew about the dangers of moving an injured person, maybe not. But she did her best to keep her family safe. If the situation was safe or not, she acted bravely.

    Now address the scene. The car was off the road in a ditch, so there is very little risk of being struck by other cars. In fact, there was little risk of being seen by other cars. The other family members may have been concious and able to self-assess their injuries (the mother reached out her hand for help). You could choose to stay in the car. It seems her family chose not to.

  2. Anonymous says:

    There are no negative effects from kids playing M-rated games.  None.  Not a single one.


    Supporting the ESRB is an abdication of parental responsibility to suspend your irrational and emotional gut reactions to things and actually learn about how things might affect your child.  Instead, people just assume the ESRB isn’t full of shit.  Well, they are.  There has never been a rigorous scientific experiment that showed any long term negative effects from videogames.  The only legitimate studies at all show that videogames change your reactions to violent videos, but say nothing about real life.  The ESRB doesn’t care about your kids.  They only care about making tons of money and keeping the publishers happy.  They don’t care about pushing the envelope and presenting videogames as a legitimate artistic medium, they only care about the tens of thousands of dollars they get for each game rated and getting the platform holders to ban unrated or AO rated games so that they can continue to degrade our culture and insult our kids.

  3. Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of Jack Thompson says:

    EPIC Win.



  4. Baruch_S says:

    Jack, Jack, Jack… This little girl didn’t learn a behavior, she learned a fact. Cars can catch on fire and explode. She got this from GTA. Now, while GTA–and every action movie known to man–exagerates how easily a car will explode, it still can catch fire. But knowing a car can catch fire isn’t a behavior. Every form of media can teach facts, and this little girl learned a fact. Big deal. Now, if she had been driving recklessly and rolled the car, then you might have some miniscule reason to claim she learned a behavior… except that she’s eleven and probably can’t even reach the pedals.


    And do you happen to have some evidence of Navy flight school pilots playing flight sims or an apology from Dennis?

  5. Majestic_12_x ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    "games do modify behavior AND TEACH THINGS!"

    -You mean like how my chemistry book can possibly teach me how to create a highly exothermic reaction? Let’s add that to the list because a chemistry book can teach you how to create a bomb!

    Jack, you ignorant twit, just because you are taught to act does not mean that you will subconciously act against free will. If somebody learns that pressing the trigger of a firearm releases the hammer which then taps the bullet and finally sends the bullet flying out of the barrel, that doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re subconciously planning a killing spree. Otherwise, you’d have to worry about EVERY single military veteran going on a spree after basic training (becase the military TAUGHT them how to fire a gun). Just because one person understands how something works doesn’t mean they automatically intend to put said system to work.

    I mean, we all know that you know how to act like an absolute ignoramous, but we don’t expect you to wear your dunce cap all the time.


  6. nightwng2000 says:

    "Simple rule:  What you put into your head has behavioral consequences.  The Bible says this. "

    Hey, thanks John Bruce!  I’ll be using this in various Press Releases, drafts of legislations, and Public Nuisance lawsuits to "Protect the Children!" from bigotry and hate, and the "causal" effects of those teachings made by various religious groups, including, but not limited to, your own church.

    After all, it was the "Bible" being taught to kids in church that it is ok to verbally, mentally, physically, and/or sexually abuse other kids in Public Schools, Public Parks, and other Public places.

    It was the "Bilbe" being taught to kids in church that it is ok to terrorize other kids who don’t fall in line with the teachings of that "Bilbe" til the victim is driven to suicide, becomes a life long abuse victim, and perhaps drives the victim to strike back, becoming an abuser themselves.

    There are plenty of criminal cases where we can draw those same "causal" links from religious teachings to the crimes committed by those who were "mentally molested" by those religious teachings.

    And one only has to replace video games with the exact same violent religious teachings to show the same "causal" link to heightened aggression and violent tendancies, right?  Actually, why ask you?  You support such teachings.  In fact, being an elder of your church, as you’ve claimed before, you probably aid in teaching such pornographic ideas as abusing others because they don’t believe what you believe.

    I’m sure I can drum up a number of cases where religion could be tied into criminal activity.  Especially Christian religious beliefs.

    Eric Rudolph, Fred Phelps, a number of KKK and skinhead activities, even Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.  And, hey, how about that Oxnard School shooting or the church shooting in Nebraska earlier this year?  They were driven to commit those crimes because of religion.  One because he was a bigot against homosexuals and the other because he had been abused by his extremist religious Parents for over a decade.

    Oh, and of course the Catholics teach that child molestation is a good thing.  Not merely that Priests get to molest kids, but the higher ups covered it up and protected the molestors.  (If the higher ups hadn’t protected and covered up the cases, the argument would have been weaker.)

    And, sadly, so many good religious individuals, those who don’t promote or teach bigotry and hate as their religion, will have to suffer because of you, John Bruce.  After all, the First Amendment says the government can’t give respect to one religion over another.  So, to "Protect the children!", this will have to affect ALL religions.  It’s a shame really.  There really are a number of honorable people of faith out there.  You and your church, of course, aren’t among them.  But, don’t worry, I let everyone know that it was YOU who was responsible for this outcome.

    Now, where shall we start?


    NW2K Software

    Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

  7. Gift says:

    Hmm no one claims the game made the girl a hero.

    Aside from that, there’s a fundamental difference between learning something and acquiring new behaviours. You’re just conflating the two because it suits you to do so.

    Allow me to illustrate the matter more clearly for you:

    In this case a girl learned that cars can explode from a game (except they don’t really, and TV or Film could have left her with the same impression). Equally she might learn something about airplane instrumentation from a flight sim, it’s simply a matter of recall, not a fundamental shift in personality.

    In contrast, she did not acquire any desire to make cars explode by flipping them, or any compulsion to commit random acts of violence. These would be new behaviours, not a matter of simple recall.

    So er no, you are wrong as usual. Much as I don’t think the child should have been playing GTA, I also recognise the fact children aren’t mindless automatons incapable of distinguishing make-believe from reality.


  8. Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis Of Jack Thompson (Not Logged In) ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Holy fuggin’ shit! Three LEGENDARY Wins in one thread! Keep ’em coming, guys!

  9. Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis Of Jack Thompson (Not Logged In) ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Another LEGENDARY Win! Congratulations! The second person today to have achieved this!

  10. sortableturnip says:

    I guess by that logic, I should know how to use magic, swing a sword, use a bow and arrow, turn into a dragon, fly a dragon, fly a gunship, fly a jet, fly a WWI fighter plane, fly like Superman, develop implants, become a cyborg, fire laser beams out of my eyes, jump from rooftop to rooftop, travel through time….

  11. Flamespeak says:

    *Peels a banana* This looks so tasty.

    *Bites into the banaEXPLOSION*

    *Opens a newspapEXPLOSION*

    *Rubs a kittEXPLOSION*

    Hey, Guys! Did I ever tell you about the timEXPLODES!

    The poster above me is a complete retard and ruined his entire statement with the phrase "There is always a possibility of an EXPLOSION!"

  12. Anonymous says:

    "She knew it was, at the very least, a possibility because it happened all the time in GTA. Suppose it might have helped, but as several people pointed out, cars don’t always explode, that said, still not a good idea to hang around and find out."

    Yes it is!  The alternatives, as I and others have pointed out in earlier posts, are very much more dangerous.  If you value your life, you don’t leave a car after an accident unless you’re absolutely sure that it’s safe to do so.  Why?  Because a car is built to keep you safe from other cars on the road – your body is not – and when you leave that car and move through the traffic lanes to the sidewalk you’re removing yourself from the safest place and exposing yourself to significant danger.

  13. Anonymous says:

    Yup, in the real world you can pretty much shoot a gas tank full of holes and it still won’t explode.  You have to hit it with incendiary rounds in order to blow it up – and even that might take a few rounds because the fuel has to be exposed to plenty of oxygen in order to ignite, and a gas tank usually has only a small amount of oxygen.  People tend to forget that without air there can be no combustion.  Besides, cars are built to RESIST fires and explosions.

  14. Anonymous says:

    The chance of explosion must have been maybe 1 in 500.  The chance of an injured person being injured more severely after being moved would be about 1 in 5.  The chance of being hit by another car and injured or killed after exiting the vehicle, perhaps 1 in 20.  Yeah, the girl did REAL good, taking her family from a relatively safe situation and putting them into a much more dangerous one.

    Everyone who thinks the girl did the smart thing, if you get into such a situation, I advise you to do as she did – the human herd could do with a few less morons.  If I get into that same situation, I’ll be staying in the car – it has a metal cage, seatbelts and crumple zones and it keeps me safe really well – even upside down.

  15. Anonymous says:

    There is a bigger chance that an explosion will happen in my house (which has not overturned) right now, but I’m not going to wake my wife and kid up to take them out on the street.  There’s always the possibility of explosion, but that doesn’t mean we should treat the real world as if explosions are a definite possibility.  This girl acted foolishly.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Real world cars are not made of explodium, and removing hurt people for no reason from a metal box that is equipped with safety belts and crumple zones, and taking them onto the highway where cars are travelling at speed is ENDANGERING their lives, not saving them.  Not only did this 11 year-old idiot potentially worsen her family’s injuries by moving them, she also placed them in more harm by removing them from the protection of their car.

  17. Anonymous says:

    "even if GTA hadn’t had realistic exploding car curcumstances, it did prompt the girl to get her family out of he car."

    …which is exactly the WRONG thing to do after an accident. You’re supposed to stay IN the car until rescue vehicles arrive, unless the car is actually on fire.

  18. Grifter_tm ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Right, ignorance. Coz every 11 year old should know the intricacies of automotive technology like adults do.

    Right she’s an idiot. Coz every 11 year old know everything about first aid.

    Well that settles the argument, which should sit really well with me except that, SHE’S ELEVEN YEARS OLD!!! You’d be lucky enough to find an eleven-year-old kid who wouldn’t stop crying form terror after experiencing a car crash.

    Really, stupid is as stupid… posts.

  19. JustChris says:

    The car exploding after tipping over appears to be a game design element. When a car is flipped upside down it’s undriveable, but it’s also a nuisance if it’s stuck on the road forever. It messes up your driving routes. Simple fix: make it blow up. The charred remains stay for a while and them get removed from existence (visually and in the game’s memory) In the game, this is reasonable enough to make it appear normal.

  20. JustChris says:

    Of course it’s naive to think any type of media you put in doesn’t have effects on your behavior. But your claims that the behavior puts everyone at risk is greatly exagerrated. You take the worst case scenario and make it seem like it could happen every day. You take Murphy’s Law too seriously.

    "Simple rule:  What you put into your head has behavioral consequences. "

    "The Bible says this."

    Let’s put two and two together. Jack is who he is because of the way he takes the Bible in his head.

  21. JustChris says:

    Enough with the psychological studies. Show us REAL LIFE everyday cases. And not just any case involving a very mentally unfit person. That is not "everyday".

  22. Father Time says:

    Have you played san andreas? In that game when your car rolls over on it’s top or side it will always catch fire and blow up unless you can roll it back right side up. Eventually you learn that if your car has flipped over then you need to get out of the car and run. I don’t think it’s that out of place.

  23. Tarosan says:

    I believe JT and his bible loving minion squad get a PWNED/10 for bad taste and bad points.

    When Life gives you lemons, you find a new god.

  24. Anonymous says:

    She knew it was, at the very least, a possibility because it happened all the time in GTA. Suppose it might have helped, but as several people pointed out, cars don’t always explode, that said, still not a good idea to hang around and find out.

    As for Thompson or a very accomplished impressionist, flat on the face, I’m afraid, you’re actually providing an argument against an anti-GTA position, since, cars explode when they flip in GTA, people die when you shoot them or knock them down in GTA, if the first is understandable from a real-world perspective, then so is the other.

    By your own argument, it is therefore possible to teach kids that shooting people in real life kills them by making them play GTA, therefore increasing awareness that guns kill and will cause repercussions without physically hurting anyone.

    I’m sure Rockstar are flattered by the compliment.

  25. Deep Thorn ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Great story guys, and bad photoshop, haha j/p.

    next time if it is a screenshot that is all one side of the color spectrum so much, maybe try desaturate, and change the hue to that color with the hue/saturation…  maybe… i dont have Ps at home right now, so i cant even test it out to see….

  26. Anonymous says:

    I rate you a 10/10, I can’t tell if you are a troll or actually Jack!

    That rant also reminds me, didn’t Jack scream about how those who are NOT influenced by the likes of GTA and DO NOT go on things like killing sprees is along the lines of "an inseginificant, not worth acknowledging, anecdotal evidence"?  Yet when such horrid events –even if they are unrelated to his claims & proved so– like a school shooting occurs, Jack just shows how very hypocritical and selective he is.

    And what do mean by Dennis apologizing?  I don’t recall him flat out saying game’s can’t have a negative effect on someone, but UNLIKE YOU in such cases HE LOOKS AT THE MORE LIKELY CAUSES(i.e. Cody Posey’s sexual abuse, the V-Tech shooter’s mental problems expressed through his writings, a bunch of other incidents you tried forcing yourself onto, etc).

    By your absurd logic we should also ban: TV, movies, music, BOOKS(i.e. the Bible), drawings/art, and even TALKING/PEOPLE because they all have the potential of influencing & helping someone into doing some hideous act!

    Take the uni-bomber, should we have banned science books and libraries?  That bastard terrorized people(especially those in computer science) in my local community during the 80s-90s, and then we eventually find out he got his info & "research" from the local campus’s library.

    Again, games like GTA do NOT teach you how to REALISTICALLY operate a weapon, or give any "shooting strategies" on weapons(i.e. that BS you spewed about V-Tech), and like the above example those who are going to commit such acts will ACTIVILY SEEK THIS KIND OF "INFO" OUT!

    You tried this with music, but you failed and people soon forgot such BS.  You tried this with movies, you failed it yet again and people don’t buy it.  And history keeps repeating itself with video games….

  27. Anonymous says:

    Like someone said before, cars don’t explode when flipped. Cars pretty much don’t explode anyway, unlike what the movies show you. And again, like that person mentioned, accident victims should not be moved unless there is imminent danger, or if you know their condition won’t be worsened if you move them.

    I don’t think anyone should be celebrating anything. She had quick reflexes and was lucky that she didn’t make anything worse, the end. Stop trying to read something that isn’t there.

    And besides, Rockstar changed GTA IV to where the vehicles wouldn’t explode when flipped. They don’t explode when shot at either unless you shoot the "gas tank" or engine, which is still totally unrealistic.

  28. Waffles says:

    I’m glad the girl and her family are safe and I’m all for learning good things from video games but….Am I the only one who thinks that GTA is TOTALLY out of place in the whole story?

    I mean, nothing in that whole article goes into what exactly she "learned" through playing the game. "GTA showed her how dangerous a flipped over car can be" — No, thats just sounds stupid. BEING in a flipped over vehicle and seeing your parents injured and bleeding in flipped over vehicle should show you how dangerous it is. 

    Not saying she didn’t do the right things, but whole video game comment sounds more like a "Wow-these-kids-today-sure-are-advanced" comment.


  29. jadedcritic says:

    Jack-o must be bored. He doesn’t usually respond that many times in a single thread. I suppose they could be fake-jacks, but this on smelled vaguely real to me. 

    I’ve only skimmed the thread, so I don’t know if anyone’s already suggested this.  I did notice that folks have already challenged the notion that flipped cars blow up.  I must admit, I haven’t played much GTA lately, but if I were to site anything in my personal experience that might lead me to the conclusion that flipped car = blowup, the finger would have to be pointed squarely at hollywood.  I’ve seen more car explosions in the last month worth of movies then I did in the last 3 months of video games.

    (Granted, I haven’t played allot of driving games, but as I sit here and think, how often do you see hollywood flip a car and NOT blow it up?  I’m willing to bet less then 1/3 of all hollywood flips. max.)

    Just my two cents.  I’m inclined to think the logic that GTA actually influenced this situation is questionable at best.

  30. Zero Beat ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Regardless of whether or not the car was in any danger of explosion, the basic facts remain the same: This 11-year-old girl pulled her family from a rollover because she felt believed that it was possible for the car to explode because she played GTA and that’s how things work in GTA.  Whether or not the family needed to be pulled out or not is irrelevant.  She’s being hailed as a hero, and she attributes her bravery to what happens when you play GTA.

  31. Anonymous says:

    An 11 year old girl picking up an ERRONEOUS nugget of information from a video game and picking up a gun (that games don’t show how to use properly) and going on a killing spree are two different things.  You see information and mind control are two largely different things.  You can learn information about the Vikings, but it doesn’t mean you are going to sack your neighbor’s house now are you?


    Yet again basic common sense and logic are beyond your reach.


    But we should expect no less from a legally proven liar.

  32. Anonymous says:

    So how’s the last two weeks of your law career going JT? Got your application to McDonalds sent in yet?

  33. kurisu7885 (can't log in) says:

    Increased aggression, however short lived, does NOT mean instant violence.

    By the way, where’s the epidemic of slingshot injuried you promised?

    Maybe you can also point me to Bully’s "Columbine mode" you were so sure was in it.

  34. Kincyr says:

    Good grief, interactive products are the best teaching tools in the world.

    name a public school that uses household videogame consoles to teach… Didn’t think so!

    Simple rule:  What you put into your head has behavioral consequences.  The Bible says this.

    the Bible also says grasshoppers have four legs (Leviticus 11:23), that the Earth is flat (Isaiah 40:22, Matthew 4:8), that bats are birds (Leviticus 11:19), and that snakes eat dirt (Genesis 3:14). the Bible was also unclear on who Joseph’s father was (Matthew 1:16 and Luke 3:2), how Judas died (Matthew. 27:5-7 and Acts 1:18), whether the righteous will live or die (Psalms.92:12 and Isaiah.57:1), and whether it was god or Satan who moved David to anger and numbered Isreal (II Samuel 24:1 and I Chronicles. 21:1). Hardly a reliable source of information.

    岩「…Ace beats Jack」

  35. kurisu7885 (can't log in) says:

    Alos, we were NOT the ones on TV not even a day after the Vtech killing saying video games were solely responsible BEFORE THE KILLER WAS EVEN NAMED AND BEFORE THE BODY COUNT WAS EVEN KNOWN!!!!!

    Honestly, if I lived in that area, I’d have punched you i nthe face if I saw you snopping around.

  36. kurisu7885 (can't log in) says:

    Actually, military aircraft pilots train on multi million dollar machines which are perfect recreations of aircraft cockpits and have hydralic actuator to move the cabin i nthe event of movement.

    AS far as i know no civilian can afford such a thing. Show me soemone who is an average american with such a machien i nthere home and you MIGHT have an argument.

    And a picture of a game console or a PC desk won’t count as those don’t even come close.

  37. Paul T. Farinelli says:

    Obviously you can learn things from video games. But, only if the game is actually attempting to teach you something. Even small children can tell when something that is being done in a cartoon or game that shouldn’t actually be done in real life. An entire generation that grew up watching Elmer Fudd shoot Daffy Duck in the face is proof of this.

  38. thefremen says:

     ITT: people with very little world experience try to sound like experts.


    The /b/tards around here remind me of people who watch youtube videos of rollovers and claim that there is no way for a jeep to do an endo/reverse endo while climbing/descending a very steep incline/decline.

  39. Anonymous says:

    um.. jack.. read the post you moronic dimwit.

    ”But, as MyWebTimes reports, 11-year-old Audrey Plique’s GTA gaming sessions may have saved her family’s life after their car rolled over on the night of August 27th”


    um what in that sentence exactly is false? and where does dennis say you CAN learn things from GTA?

    oh.. yeah he doesnt. Congratulations, it must feel amazing to be the best at being the worst at EVERYTHING.

  40. David_Ikari says:

    It’s good that the girl saved her family from their car (under the risk that it could have exploded), but crediting GTA could be a dangerous thing. If it’s possible for a child to learn a good lesson from a game, then it’s possible for them to learn a bad lesson.

    Who is waiting for Fox news to bring up the line "If you beat up a prostitute, you can get your money back"?

    Still, applause to Audrey for her courage and quick thinking!

  41. Rodrigo Ybáñez García says:

    Back to the real issue.

    I think the whole GTA element is a little out of proportion, but if they think something good happened from that game, I don´t think is bad at all. Many children (or teenagers) sometimes show some level of adulthood when it comes to emergencies, calling the police or doing first aid, or even driving to a hospital to get help.

    In my opinion, an 11 years old can play without problems GTA because they already know is just a fantasy game. I´m agree the game maybe give to many people some courage to take chances in a difficult situation, but is not enterly some kind of "training device" as morons like Jack Thompson are claiming.

    The cynical side of videogames (spanish only): http://thelostlevel.blogspot.com/ My DeviantArt Page (aka DeviantCensorship): http://www.darkknightstrikes.deviantart.com/

  42. CK20XX says:

    That’s something that people should do /regardless/ though.  If your family is in trouble, it’s natural to want to help them.  If you don’t want to help them or need a video game to teach you to do that, something’s wrong.

    If Grand Theft Auto had taught her the proper technique for pulling people out of an overturned vehicle, then it would be different.

  43. Andrew Eisen says:

    You can learn GOOD things from GTA but not bad things.


    Where on Earth did GP say that?

    Also, as has been discussed, the little girl didn’t necessarily learn or do the right thing.  Whether or not GTA taught her that cars explode when they roll over is irrelevant.  The fact remains that the game did not force her to drag her parents out of the car (didn’t even teach her that part).

    Can you learn stuff from games?  Absolutely.  No one has said anything to the contrary.  What games cannot do, is make you act.  Put another way: can a flight simulator teach you to fly a plane?  Yes, but it can’t make you fly a plane.  That will always be your choice.


    Andrew Eisen

  44. GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    The story says the girl thinks she learned the knowledge she used to save her family from a GTA game. Wether or not she is correct in her assumption is still being debated. As for learning, just because a person knows HOW to do something, that doesn’t mean they have to. Soldiers know how to kill, but they don’t just run around killing random people without any context to their actions.


    You’re a conservative, right Jack? You probably know how to work a gun, yes? That would mean you know how to kill people. So I must ask, have you killed anyone lately?


     -Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007) Just to name a few…

  45. Andrew Eisen says:

    I’m proud of you for finally changing your line from "violent behavior" to "aggressive behavior."  That’s a lot closer to what the APA actually said.

    But you’re still wrong.  Nowhere does the APA say "causal."
    Here’s what the APA actually said:
    WHEREAS comprehensive analysis of violent interactive video game research suggests such exposure a.) increases aggressive behavior,
    Suggests an increase in aggressive behavior. That doesn’t say much, does it? How much of an increase? What is meant by "aggressive behavior"? Those are important details that can’t be glossed over if your going to claim games are harmful and need to be regulated.
    Andrew Eisen 
  46. Tarosan says:

    Not trying to save your own hide here… and your video games made me argument was destroyed by a woman saying.

    "Parents who use video games as a babysitter shouldn’t have sex to begin with."

    Uh huh and this is where JT gets PWNED

    When Life gives you lemons, you find a new god.

  47. BmK ( User Karma: 1 ) says:

    Well every form of media can have an effect on us, shape our thoughts and feelings and gives us ideas and inspirations whether they be negative or positive. It doesn’t matter whether it is GTA or the Holy Bible. But it depends on the person in question. People are fundamentally psychologically different from one another and how they react to different stimulus.

    With that said, the vast majority of normal people including children have a pretty firm grasp on the difference between right and wrong, reality and fantasy and what is or is not accesptable to do in real life. Violent media is not going to influence them to commit violence because they know that violence in real life is wrong and that the media in question is fake and meant as a form of entertainment to escape from reality and do things you couldn’t or shouldn’t do in real life.

  48. GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Whatever. Glad her family came out okay, but I doubt she actually got a whole lot of the saving strategies from GTA. As for the people getting all up in arms over an eleven year old playing Grand Theft Auto (I’m glad to see there’s very few this time around), stop being so damn whiney. It’s a game, and it’s not your kid. People must have forgotten the entire pourpose of the ESRB ratings…


    -Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007) Just to name a few…

  49. SS says:

    Thanks for improving my mood so much.  I was in a bad mood.  You made me laugh.  thanks JT.  Nothing like blabbering irrationality from you to cheer me up. 

  50. Tarosan says:

    Oh and since when did you care about the children when you are trying to destroy the American First Amendment

    When Life gives you lemons, you find a new god.

  51. GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Unless you can provide an actual name or a link, then no. No there isn’t.


    -Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007) Just to name a few…

  52. cullarn says:


  53. rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr says:

    Capitalize?  What the Hell are you smoking?   The owner of this site, Mr. Censor, puts out there a story that you can learn stuff from GTA.  Okay, you can learn stuff from GTA. I’ve been saying that on national tv for four years, you idiots, and you have entire legions of gamers crucifying me for that.  Capitalizing?

    I’m making the point that Dennis McCauley and his slave master, ECA, and the rest of the game industry spends millions and millions of dollars on advertising to modifying buying behavior, and yet they say a game you play for hundreds of hours can’t POSSIBLY modify your behavior.  Then a story like this comes along, and Dennis McCauley is so stupid that he reports it here, and opens the door which anyone could drive a truck through, that games do modify behavior AND TEACH THINGS!

    Good grief, interactive products are the best teaching tools in the world.  All the best Navy flight school graduates trained on flight games when they were kids.

    Simple rule:  What you put into your head has behavioral consequences.  The Bible says this.  All educators say this.  The game industry admits it with their warning labels.  I’ve been spot-on right from day one, and Dennis McCauley just apologized.  Jack Thompson    

  54. cullarn says:

    this is horrbile jack trying to capitialize and the rest of you yelling at her for what she did she was an 11 year old girl who was looking at her injured and unconcious parents. note 11 year old girl not fully trained paramedic!!!! lay off the poor girl for gods sake

  55. 9999999999999999999999 says:

    Dearest Chal:

    The American Psychological Association has found a direct CAUSAL nexus between violent video game play by teens and their increased aggression.    August 2005.  Not correlation, causation.  Keep it real.

    Jack Ali G Thompson


  56. jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj says:

    This is absolutely fascinating.  Let’s see if we can follow the logic of this site’s owner:

    You can learn GOOD things from GTA but not bad things.  I see.  You can learn to do what this girl did but you can’t be inspired to firebomb cars or stab taxi drivers.

    Are you people aware of how silly you are?  Jack Thompson


  57. Chal says:

    <i>Wow…just freaking wow…

    You guys spend so much time and effort screaming your heads off that there is no correlation between media and a person’s socialization. But, when it can be spun in your favor…</i>

    Causation and correlation are different things, genius. Nobody is denying that media can influence us. What we object to is censorship, as well as the idea that there’s a direct CAUSAL effect between media violence and real world violence.


  58. Anonymous says:

    She was trying to do what was right, And everyone came out ok. Plus there was a chance that an explosion might  of happened.

  59. Anonymous says:

    even if GTA hadn’t had realistic exploding car curcumstances, it did prompt the girl to get her family out of he car.

  60. Anonymous says:

    IMHO people under 14 should probably not be playing any of the GTA games, but in this instance it seems that the girl was mature for her age and even took from the game something that helped her family out in real life. Kudos to you young Audrey. I’m glad you’re family is safe.

  61. NovaBlack. ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    got to say , that i agree with another poster here, that to be honest this means pretty much nothing (unfortunately!).

    I mean lets face it, she didnt learn ANYTHING from GTA. For a start a car that rolls over RARELY just explodes in real life. (mythbusters thankyou!).  I mean in all honesty she actually could have caused more damage pulling them out.

    In all honesty i just think this was a kid, who, when in a stressful situation just decided what she thougth was best based on instinct. I REALLY dont think (sadly) this means anything in terms of ‘look games are proven to be good because of this’. ( iI mean credit to the kid though for at least trying to do something, which is a lot more than many adults i know who would have sat there in shock!) 

    Even if we do take this on face value… a) she shouldnt have been playing it underage and b) its one person in millions..

    Thats the difference between us and JT. We can admit that something doesnt have any factual weight to the games good/bad debate if it genuinely doesnt. We dont have to cling on to every straw that we see, and squeeze every last bit of distorted, untruthful half-truth out of it to further our agenda. I mean yeah, its a feelgood story, and worth talking about, but i dont think anyone is going to kid themselves. I mean we dont NEED to kid ourselves. No narcissistic personality disorder to satisfy here. No need to make up ‘facts’ when there is already plenty of good fact out there. I mean come on, look at the fact that we are all gamers and yet none of us (i hope) go out on rampant killing sprees. For me personally,  that is all the proof i need.


  62. Anonymous says:

    Wow…just freaking wow…

    You guys spend so much time and effort screaming your heads off that there is no correlation between media and a person’s socialization. But, when it can be spun in your favor…

    First, a car WILL NOT EXPLODE IF FLIPPED. Read that again. Period. End of story. A car may explode for numerous reasons, but her line of logic: it flipped, its gonna blow; is fatally mired in ignorance.

    Throw in the fact that you never, EVER move an accident victim until assessing their inguries under normal circumstances. Now, a car exploding is not a normal circumstance and the vic should definately be moved. But you must remember that she had absolutely no idea or notion whether the car was going to explode.

    So, when we take the spin away we are left with: young child makes a very, VERY dangerous decision based on ignorance developed through playing GTA.

    1. Based on her assesment of the situation (upside down car) there was no reason, at all, to conclude an explosion was iminent.

    2. She moved a crash victim for no reason. This is so far up the "are you an idiot" list that it is shocking that no one has brought it up yet.

  63. Eville1 says:

    I’m reminded of that Simpsons episode "I learned that the center of gravity on the Canyon Arrow will cause it to flip when turned. I also learned that Rhino’s will do whatever they can to stomp out fires. Thank you Stone Phillips!"

  64. C. Aaron Browbowski Jr. says:

    no they just become undriveable, the reason why the cars blew up in the gta 3 series is because the game creators wanted to save memory. i’m getting techincal but thats how come you keep get cars respawning… btw i frown upon kids playing gta, but in a RARE instance like this one, yeah it really did save a life! (or a whole family for that matter)

    Jesus Jack Jones Thompson told me to do it!

  65. Anonymous says:

    Catching fire is certainly a possibility, but if the car was no longer moving and the engine was off, it wasn’t going to spontaneously combust.

    Explode? Absolutely not. Ever.

  66. thefremen says:

     Any first hand accounts are just video game playing morons and any pictures, even if they appear in databases maintained by federal or local transportation authorities are photoshops.

    Also, kitchen fires never happen unlike the sims lol.

  67. Ken ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    At least there’s one kid out there who can tell the difference between fantasy and reality. I haven’t played it, but do cars explode once they roll over in GTA IV like they did in past games?

  68. bpm195 says:

    Unfortunately none of you appear to have read the full story. Otherwise you would have known that after paramedics came to patch everybody up she shot them in the back to get her money.

  69. Anonymous says:

    This is every bit as ridiculous as the idiots that parade around saying video games are murder simulators. A car will NOT explode from flipping over. It simply will not happen.

    The girl could easily have done more harm than good if someone had severe injuries and she tried to move them out of the vehicle.

    Don’t hold this crap up and try to use it to defend us, it’s embarrassing.

  70. CK20XX says:

    Eh… I dunno.

    On one hand, it’s great to see a positive story relating to Grand Theft Auto.  Heck, there might be more stories like this than we know since humans have a penchant for only focusing on the negative.

    On the other hand though, this is an 11-year-old playing an M-rated game and it sounds like the only thing she learned from it is that cars are made of explodium.

    Conclusion: nice try, please search for more.  This isn’t the positive story we are looking for.

  71. Zaruka ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    awwwwww i wanted to go try to flip my car over and watch it go boom well no expolishon for me guess i have to go back to the real world


  72. Erik ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    GTA and reality hardly, if ever, walk hand in hand.  Seriously, everything in GTA makes cars blow up.  Even minor fender benders will.  The point that their car didn’t blow up, yet again, proves Jack and other jackasses wrong in trying to say you can learn anything from GTA at all, ever.

  73. Rodrigo Ybáñez García says:

    Dear Attention Whore:

    You know you are full of lies and you keep using religion to scare people and get your opinions and points of view as facts. You think we are all sociopaths but many of us showed you we have even more commun sense than you. You keep using religion and God´s name as if you really had the right to do it, when you truly are full of lies and deception.

    You don´t care about God, or people, or children. You are just looking for fame, no matters how many people you damage on your way.

    You don´t care for anybody but yourself. I´m glad the Bar has already punished you and I hope you get kicked out from the profession soon.

    The cynical side of videogames (spanish only): http://thelostlevel.blogspot.com/ My DeviantArt Page (aka DeviantCensorship): http://www.darkknightstrikes.deviantart.com/

  74. desperad0 says:

    Thanks good job;

    Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing travesti or little and need to start saving costs. and dizi izle


    Now I don’t have to get off my ass for the important shit anymore!

    Whats next, ordering pizza from Xbox live?

    Wait… I think that sounds like a good idea.

    But I think voting should MAKE you get off your ass, and see outside or a second while you go vote. I mean, your picking the president of the United States of America for God’s Sake… least you can do is drive down there and punch out a card.

  75. oto kirlama says:

    I’m all for freedom of ttnet vitamin speech and allowing rent a car game makers to put whatever they want in games, but there’s one thing about this app that has me scratching my head.  Correct me if I’m wrong, but from araç kiralama the previous article araba kiralama on this I gathered that players can use Google maps in-game to find the other (real-life?) dealers in their area.  If this is the case, has travesti anyone considered what’s stopping someone from using this app to actually move drugs between hands for reals?

    But majority araba kiralama of their outrage araç kiralama stems from what it could DO TO children, not the content itself.  Talk to one of these people and you’ll find they don’t think any books kiralık araba should be banned from children.  Mention American Psycho and they talk about kiralık araç the redeeming value of using imagination to construct a story.  Reading, no matter what the content, is largely viewed as a consequenceless activity for people of any age.  The reason why I mention American Psycho is because of the content itself.  Gaming never has and likely never will have any scenes where someone has sex with a severed head.  Not gonna happen.  Yet despite this, they’ll fight tooth and nail to protect their children from two boys kissing in Bully but whatever they read is harmless… yeah.

    The entire arguement is kiralık oto based upon a social normality inflicted by luddites who can’t figure out the controls for Halo so it’s frightening and terrifying and obviously the cause of youth violence on the rise even though, in reality, it’s in decline (which is actually a HUGE suprise given minibüs kiralama the economies status).  In  a perfect world, we would have parents that actually parent.  The idea of sales restrictions on media on oto kiralama any form to accomidate parental unwillingness to get involved with their child’s life is the real problem to me.  Here I am, 32 years old, and being held up at a self-scan rent a car needing to show ID before I can buy a $10 M rated game all because Soccer Momthra can’t be bothered to look at the crap Billy Genericallystupidson does in his free time.  It’s too hard for her, so I have to suffer?

  76. Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of Jack Thompson says:

    Yes. On Encyclopedia Dramatica he is on the List Of Anon’s Enemies found in their article.



  77. Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis Of Jack Thompson (Not Logged In) ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    From my point of view, it seems they were going for the "Message to Scientology" approach. It has some striking similarities to that message.

  78. Deep Thorn ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It may be correct that the gas does not catch fire in an aggressive manor, but the interior of a vehicle does.  There have been many cases where people have been killed due to their car catching on fire.  It doesn’t take long at all for the car to be fully engulfed in flames either.

    So though the car may not have exploded, it could have still caught firing, burning those people alive.

  79. Anonymous says:

    Cars exploding on impact – Mythbusters throughly disproved this myth’s reality when they shot up a car in an attempt to deliberately set off the gas tank — to no avail. In a later episode, they revisited the myth and were able to set the fuel on fire with a tracer round, though it still did not explode.

    Like I said before, the girl acted very foolishly, endangering her family.  This is not a case where GTA helped a family stay safe.  It’s a case of Hollywood and the game industry’s penchant for big explosions leading people to think that explosions are commonplace, and thus leading them to do stupid stuff that could easily get them killed.

  80. Anonymous says:

    Greetings, Jack Thompson. I am a representative of the Gamer Society.

    Over the years, we have been watching you. Your pointless crusade against video games; your condemnation of your opponents; and your hypocrisy; all of these things have caught our eye. With the discovery of your latest anti-game rant within mainstream circulation, you have made the extent of your vendetta against those who know you, and seek to disbar you, very clear to us. We have therefore decided that we must remove you immediately instead of waiting for you to be disbarred. For the good of our people, no, for the good of all people, aside from our own individual entertainment, we shall expel you from both the Internet and the media, as well as any other public information source that you may use to discredit us. We acknowledge you as a serious opponent, and we are prepared for anything you try to do to us. Furthermore, we do not expect our business with you to be completed within a short amount of time.  You will not prevail forever against the angry masses of the gaming politic.

    You cannot hide; we are everywhere. We cannot die; we are forever. Our numbers are increasing every day, and solely by the favor towards the games we play, creative and impressive as they often are. If you want another name for us, then call us Incognito, for we can be anyone and everyone, including those who support you.

    Yet for all that we are not as tactless as you are; and our methods are very different to yours. We will not be surprised if you use our actions as an example of the persecution you claim to be experiencing; we accept this. In fact, we encourage it. We are your enemies.

    Gradually as we mingle and meld with your known opponents, the suppression of the truth will become increasingly difficult to maintain. Parents will learn that video games do not cause people to shoot up their schools. Those who were affected by incidents such as the shootings at Virginia Tech, Columbine, and Northern Illinois University will know that the grief and the sorrow that they feel was not caused by video games. No, they will see that it comes from a man who has taken the popular excuse way too far. Yes, Mr. Thompson, we are against you.

    Gaming is freedom. We are gamers. We are Incognito. We have not forgotten. You can be forgiven, and we pray that you will. Please, Mr. Thompson… Please accept us.

  81. Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis Of Jack Thompson (Not Logged In) ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    (Sucks you can’t edit when not logged in)

    Emulating "Anonymous" (The new one) with that message might be a bit extreme. I’ll be surprised if Dennis leaves it alone.

  82. Anonymous says:

    If the ignition is on, it can explode even WITHOUT the car being in an accident, but that doesn’t mean it will – and it doesn’t mean that getting out of the car is the safest thing to do – and that’s the same after a wreck.  People who exit their car after a wreck are much more likely to get hit by traffic.  The fact is, you’re much safer staying in the car after a wreck, unless there is a fire.  But the chance of there being a fire after a wreck is very small indeed.

    The real world is not like the movies.  In movies cars explode because special effects folks put heaps of explosives in the car.  Manufacturers of real cars spend a lot of time making sure that gas tanks are well protected from the effects of collisions.

  83. Anonymous says:

    Yeah, if they were unconscious of if they couldn’t move, she probably did more to endanger them by moving them.  Cars don’t usually spontaneously combust – even in a wreck.

  84. Andrew Eisen says:

    So did the car actually blow up?




    In all seriousness, the first thing you want to do is shut off the ignition.  Unless it’s already on fire, a car is probably not going to explode.  If people are hurt, don’t move them unless you have to.


    Andrew Eisen

  85. kurisu7885 (can't log in) says:

    With those peopel postign endorsing Thompson(unless it’s him writing that) I do wonder if he;s trying to star a LaRouche esque cult.

  86. Zevorick says:

    Yeah, I mentioned this story as a joke. It’s scary to see people think an 11 year old playing GTA is a good thing.  Parents being saved is a plus, but they’re seemingly bad parents so eh… 

    Thankfully, there are enough people with sense here to realize this story isn’t all flowers and sunshine on this site.

  87. thefremen says:

     These kind of stories are great because they prove that given the chance, any blog will end up with commentors of the same caliber as Destructoid, Kotaku et al.

  88. Grifter_tm ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I guess it’s pretty much settled that every gamer on Earth believes that either JT is insane or just likes being a d*ck.

  89. Hello Jack, this is sanity, anyone home? says:



    He probably would also question the legality of either the 11 year old girl’s, her parents’, take two’s, car manufacturers’, or the car’s loyalty oath.  Oh and he probably would also mention his 60 minutes appearance and/or the radical gay reverse vampire florida bar conspiracy

  90. lazyslothboy says:

    I think the mom said her daughter learned it from GTA, not the 11 year old.  I guess that might show the parents are out of touch, just in a different way than alot of the politicans because they said it saved their lives and did not damn them all to an eternal hell.

  91. JustChris says:

    Kinda telling that she had to play GTA to learn that cars can blow up when tipped over…

    Well, better to learn it from there and not some hilariously crappy B-movie like Silent Night, Deadly Night 2.

  92. Father Time says:

    Anyway I’m surprised an 11 year old girl would even be interested in grand theft auto, but apparently some of them like shooting things, who knew.

    I’m reminded of a story where two people tried to rob this guy’s house while someone inside was playing GTA, in the game apparently the cops said "this is the police you’re surrounded." or something like that. The burgulars heard it thought the police were actually there and ran away. I can’t vouch for how authentic the story is though.

  93. Father Time says:

    Such a pity that in GTA IV the cars don’t blow up when they rollover anymore.

    Wait a minute this proves Rockstar wants to kill kids everyone get to the protest mobile.

  94. Christian Astrup ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Don’t you mean as far as The Hulk can? Because i doubt an 11 year old can throw a car very far. 😉

  95. Zaruka ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    lol maybe she was pulled them out so she can pick up the car and throw  it  as far as she can like the hulk

  96. GrimCW ( User Karma: -3 ) says:

    i’ve learned a LOT of things from video games, from math, to history, and even medical sciences.

    my fave thing being a Jefferson quote from Wing Commander 4 The Price of Freedom

    "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance"

    because i learned so much from my gaming (very few educational games at that) i actually SLEPT through my 11th grade year of school.

    no joke i was TOLD to go back to sleep by my teachers when i woke up cause i could dispute their teachings (cause they’d ramble on about something they knew nothing about, but page "A" said something, and they never bothered to read page "B" to figure out the rest of the info :p  ) to such a fine letter "T" that they began to ask if i learned through osmosis and rathered i was asleep.

    the only grade that suffered? my class participation was low, and lowered my grades, but i passed EVERYTHING with above average scores :p

  97. Leet Gamer Jargon says:

    Ah-HAAA! Proof positive that lessons learned from video games can be a good thing IRL.

    Although I’m highly skeptical that a car could blow up just by turning upside-down, I agree with Zippy and commend her quick thinking in a possibly dangerous situation. Well done, Audrey!

  98. gs2005 says:

    And then tweak the tolerance level to how you want.  Zoom up the image, and then capture multiple areas if you are going for details in a screen capture.

  99. chadachada(123) says:

    Agreed, I personally wouldn’t like my kids to play M games until 13 or 14, assuming they matured like I did, but it was the parent’s choice and ended up helping during an accident. Not that it necessarily saved any lives, but it still was courageous of her.



  100. Zaruka says:

    well i dont agree in letting a little kid play gta. That not my chose it the parents anyway  im glad she did learn something good from it. now lets all wait for jack to pop in with some crazy …what ever he does.



  101. sortableturnip says:

    She would have to learn from the Superman game tp flip the car right side up before she could steal it

  102. nightwng2000 says:

    Allow my prediction:

    "Jack Thompson, Attorney and you’re a moron.

    I called it!  Minors are being sold the murder simulator GTA and their Parents are mentally molesting them with it!  Another kid gone rampant with violent intent caused the car to roll over after playing GTA!  It’s the game industry that paid the media to portray this false, Godless claims of an 11 year old girl saving the lives of her family.  Everyone knows gamers are too desensitized to care about anyone’s life!

    I’m preparing to sue Take Two and the car manufacturers for conspiracy to sell porn to minors!

    Is this a great country or what?

    Jack Thompson, Attorney, figurativly speaking of course"

    ::  Runs to fill up bathtub with puke from spewing such ignorant garbage. ::

    I gotta stop doing that.  Trying to be such an ignorant hate monger as John Bruce is bad for my health.


    NW2K Software

    Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

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