GoW Creator Defends Calling Sarah Palin a MILF

The other day I called out God of War creator David Jaffe for a vlog in which he referred to Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin as "the perfect definition of a MILF." (see: God of War Designer David Jaffe Reduces Sarah Palin Candidacy to Lowest Common Denominator).

Apparently, Jaffe took notice – and took the heat. He has posted a new video which addresses the MILF issue:

There’s this website out there, pretty good website in terms most of the content it covers. Pretty smart and I’m glad it’s out there. But it was like… this accusatory tone of me being sexist or crass when I called Sarah Palin a MILF. I’m like, Oh my, god! …Your Victorian sensibilities are very easily offended… I’m not sexist. I have two little girls. I respect and love women. I think we’re all pretty much equal…

 

And I think that’s just really f*cking nit picking and ultra-politically correct to the point of just being absurd to assume that because I look at a woman and I say the only thing I can see she’s good for is f*cking… It’s not sexist because I’m not saying that’s what I see in all women when I look at all women. I’m saying when I look at her, that’s the only redeeming quality I can find in her…

While I concur with Jaffe’s position that there are more questions than answers about Sarah Palin, he and I will have to disagree on this one. Referring to Palin in public statements as a MILF reduces her – reduces any woman – to the level of a sex object.

I certainly don’t think he’s a bad guy – far from it. But Jaffe needs to realize that the level of candor which may be acceptable in a frat house or local pub doesn’t play quite so well when delivered as public, on-the-Net-forever commentary. As the head of a respected game design studio, Jaffe has employees (some of whom may be women) who could be offended. He has key business relationships with corporate types who by nature are not eager to hand a ready-made issue to special-interest groups. Is that politically correct? To an extent, sure. But that’s the nature of business today.

Beyond that, however, there’s just something wrong about reducing a woman to the sum of her body parts.

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  1. 0
    Steve ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I’d like to think I’m just offering a small glimmer of reason, but hey, call it what you want.

    Also, no-one here said that they are standing up for women. Not a one.

  2. 0
    Steve ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    And if he’d have said that, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. You can spin his comments as much as you like, but they are, and were offensive.

    Come to think of it, you should probably apply to be his PR spokesman from now on, because the man clearly can’t be trusted to do it himself! 😀

  3. 0
    Steve ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    So if Barack Obama said in his private blog that he wanted to kill every Iraqi man, woman, and child that would be ok, because it’s his personal blog?

    If you say something stupid, people may call you out. If you say it on the internet, you’re going to get ripped a new one.

  4. 0
    Steve ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    So, because she’s unlikely to read his blog, he can talk about her however he wants? Are you generally in favour of talking behind people’s backs?

    As to your second sentence – just because other people are doing it, it doesn’t excuse him.

  5. 0
    Ohma says:

    To be quite honest, it entirely becomes the site, shit, it becomes the majority of the fucking community, any time something involving women or minorities comes up here (or elsewhere) the legion of shitfaced dickbags come out to say "OMG THEY cause bigotry for saying it exists/saying action should be taken to correct it! If they’d only shut up and stop being so damn uppity everything would be fine!" and does Dennis so much as say "Dude, not cool."? No.

  6. 0
    Father Time says:

    How are you not defending Sarah Palin?

    The man says that the only redeeming quality about her is that she’s attractive and you bash him for expressing that opinion whilst ignoring the logic he uses to come to that conclusion.

    Oh and by the way which seems more sexist, Jaffe bashing a women he doesn’t like or you automatically coming to said women’s aide only because she is a woman?

    If I strated saying that Biden was the ugliest person I’ve ever seen would you come rushing to his aide? How about if I called him attractive?

  7. 0
    Anonymous says:

     Yes it was Mock The Week. Great show, definitely worth watching.

    Created by the creators of Whose Line Is It Anyway?

    I’m surprised this kind of show isn’t more popular in the United States. Cheap to make and funny as hell!

  8. 0
    Matthew says:

    I missed that one, but it sounds like Mock the Week. Seek it out and enjoy it. Even when they’re not discussing American politics, it’s one of the highlights of telly.

    (For those in the know about this sort of thing, Mock the Week is Have I Got News For You with standup comics, so it’s less newsy and more brash.)

  9. 0
    Anonymous says:

    What’s with the "I was hoping for something more than this from someone who hold a position like David Jaffe."  You were hoping more from a video game designer?  Are video game designers supposed to be models of paragon virtue?  He makes violent video games (and darn good ones at that), if the guy wasn’t a little crass his games wouldn’t have a quarter of the personality that makes them great.

    Here’s a little newsflash for you and everyone else who thinks for some odd reason that Jaffe is supposed to be Mother Teresa: many, many of the best creative minds in history were flawed individuals.  They were sexists, racists, addicts, sociopaths – not to extremes, but not without some vitriolic personality traits. Find me a great author or a director that has never uttered anything that can be construed as offensive and I’ll show you a person who works on non-fiction.  I find the idea that he should be held to some exacting politically correct standard because he’s a game designer utterly ridiculous.  As long as he doesn’t discriminate in the workplace, and there’s absolutely nothing here to suggest he does, his personality is a non-issue.

    Second newsflash: holding a public office, unfortunately, doesn’t in and of itself make a person worthy of respect.  Some of the most fantastically stupid and narrowminded people I’ve met worked in some level of public office.  Political success is often more about money, charm, and connections than it is about intelligence.

  10. 0
    Fallenone says:

    Uh, no. Not really. Besides, he could be wrong, she may actually be a terrible lay and have no redeeming qualities, right? I mean, yeah, she’s sorta hot in the librarian kinda of way…but technically her only redeeming quality may be her looks, and in fact, not her ability to fuck. I guess we’d have to ask her husband that?

    That said, you guys are being far too PC (if being PC isn’t stupid enough). He can say what he wants on his personal blog. You don’t have to watch it. This is America, for now. And the only connection here to video games is that he is a person who works with them? Ok, so he’s a lead developer? So, this is his personal blog. Deal with it.

  11. 0
    PHOENIXZERO says:

    I think a lot of people here need to loosen up and get over themselves. Sarah Palin being called a MILF is nicer than what most people have called her in the last week.

  12. 0
    PHOENIXZERO says:

    You don’t remember anyone calling Hillary a MILF for obvious reasons. >_> Sarah Palin is a lot more attractive than Hillary ever was, it has nothing to do with a position of power, get a grip.

  13. 0
    Anonymous says:

     Oh and just to add to the level of satire that show has, they also described John McCain by saying

    "He could be the first president thats assasinated by somebody bursting a paper bag"

  14. 0
    Anonymous says:

     Yes it was said on Prime Time UK TV. But that was on a satirical panel show, and they did rip her a new one when it came to her policies, opinions and McCain’s pick of her.

  15. 0
    Anonymous says:

    More politically correct BS.  The constitution says nothing about a right never to be offended.  In fact controversial or distastful opinions is what the 1st amendment is there for. I am all for women getting equal pay for equal work and the equal opertunities, but damn, pull the stick out of your butt already.

    How many people here have ever gotten porn, watched a stripper, or admired an attractive persons body?

    Women, ever show cleavage or try to show off your legs? 

    From the some of the comments at http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/08/25/daily-kos-diarist-flashes-cleavage-win-ff-xi-player-month-election#comments  I know several who are guilty as sin.

     

     

  16. 0
    Artifex says:

    Ah, then clearly you don’t know enough about David Jaffe. Because 1) He is not "the industry" nor does he speak for us/it.  2) It’s David Jaffe, creator of Twisted Metal 2 and God of War, he’s an ass, it’s what he does. He does it well. 3) Unfortunately, if you are expecting more from ‘higher ups’ than this, you’ve got a lot to learn about legacy veterans of the gaming industry.

    Not that I’m defending him, mind you, just saying.

  17. 0
    Lee-Wasa says:


    Being a woman I was offended by David Jaffe calling Sarah Palin a MILF.  Just the fact that there is this woman holding a powerful office and all she can be equated to is a MILF.  Seriously! That’s all he could have thought of.  Now she is on an even playing field with Britney Spears! Wow! That is great because I want someone in high office to be equated with Britney Spears. How come no one makes these comments about Condoleezza Rice, or any other women holding some sort of powerful position while we are at it? I don’t remember anyone calling Hillary a MILF.  Maybe the Republicans should run with that “The Maverick and the MILF” could be their slogan.

     

    Not that I am defending Sarah Palin because I do not agree with her views and beliefs, but on the core fact that she and I are both women.  It just disappoints me because I am working my way into the gaming industry and I was just hoping for something more than this from someone who hold a position like David Jaffe.

  18. 0
    Michael Brooks ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    "I’m saying when I look at her, that’s the only redeeming quality I can find in her"

    ^that does. It’s offensive, no matter how you cut it. I don’t particularly like Palin, but that’s just pure sexism.

  19. 0
    Anonymous says:

    I like the accusations of being un-PC for referring to her as a MILF then turning around and using stereotypes to define the type of people that would use such a term.  Big fan of people who don’t realize the hypocrisy in their statements.  Keep it up GP!

  20. 0

    Are you kidding me?? Was it a slow news day, or you have nothing better to do but turn on the people and the industry you are suppose to be supporting??

    The guy made a statement and that was it, grow up and cover things that are relevant, and not the BS like this, I think this is a pathetic news story.

    I come here to read pertinent informative news, if I wanted to read articles like this, I would go but the star or other tabloid publications. Please get back to what you know best, and leave this to the tabloids

  21. 0
    Hannah says:

    It has nothing to do with sexism.  He’s merely saying that sex appeal is her only redeeming characteristic.

    I might make the same comment about an attractive but otherwise useless man.  For example, most boybands consist of men who are certainly nice to look at, but I wouldn’t want to listen to their music, and I must admit that I have very little respect for them or their chosen genre.  The fact that I make this comment says nothing about my opinion of men as a whole, merely certain men.

    Oh, and incidentally, I agree with him.  I wouldn’t want to sleep with her (largely because I’m straight), but she is a pretty face and… not much else, from what I’ve read about her in the news.

  22. 0
    Artifex says:

    "…he and I will have to disagree on this one. Referring to Palin in public statements as a MILF reduces her – reduces any woman – to the level of a sex object."

    Looks down the page two articles below this one.

    Yes, it’s much better to stereotype and insult her as being a backwoods alaskan. Thanks for showing the world where that line is GP.

  23. 0
    Are'el says:

    I tend to agree with Dennis.  It is a sexist remark.  Now, in certain contexts, it would be fine to be a little sexist.  She is, after all, very attractive.  But I don’t think saying she’s a "MILF" publicly is the right time or way to go about it.  Whether you agree or disagree with Palin’s validity as a VP canidate (which I personally don’t), she still deserves more respect than to be publicly reduced to a sex object by a semi-well known business man.  I think David Jaffe is a bit out of touch if he doesn’t get why his comments were crude and not appropriate for someone in his position.

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    Father Time says:

    I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic but in case of you aren’t the ancient greeks considered the nude body to be a thing of beauty and most of the tits in the game were on monsters not humans.

  25. 0
    MMPR ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I agree with Dennis, any politician who can successfully defend her small Alaskan town from a vampire invasion deserves to be referred to as something far more respectful. >:.>

  26. 0
    TheEdge says:

    Does that mean if you don’t like Palin you are a sexist?Just like if you don’t like Obama you’re racist?(joke)

     

    As for Jaffe calling her a MILF,I say………………..BIG FREAKING DEAL.

    For every person calling her a MILF(ever been to Fark?),there are probably doing way worse.What about the people calling Obama racial epithets?I can gurantee you there are people who are calling her even worse than a MILF(not me,of course).Oh,and she isn’t trying to lead,that’s McCain and Obama.Just like people are calling Obama worse than any nickname he has(not me,again).Holy frick,so he doesn’t like her?Loads of people don’t.I personally like her,even though I am a Libertarian I support McCain because the rest of my party wants to cut and run from Iraq(yes,I am aware they,Iraq, want a timetable for withdrawal now.I’m skeptical,but if they want us out,then we should go.Besides,we recently handed over Anbar).

    SO he made a sexist statement?There will always be sexism in the world,just there will always be war,racism,violence ect.Just the way the world works,and it will remain that way for ever.The Earth will always be a sucky place,and there will always be people that will say things like that.Get used to it.

  27. 0
    Father Time says:

    "Is there a particular reason why she wouldn’t?"

    How about the fact that there are thousands of blogs probably most of which are discussing Palin.

    I’m not saying the fact that other people are saying it makes it Ok (I do think his insults are OK but not for that reason), I’m saying that because lots of other people are saying a similar opinion I don’t see why it should be considered such a big deal. Or at elast we shouldn’t act like Jaffe is the only one who thinks that.

  28. 0

    I think the solution to this is very simple:  If you don’t like what David Jaffe says, don’t read his blog.  No one forces you to go there.  Aside from the fact of this story being pretty much completely irrelevant to what this site covers (other than a game designer said something about a political figure, something which tons of other non-game designers do all the time), its ridiculous to be picking a fight with Jaffe over a trivial comment that was completely overblown.  I have nothing but respect for Dennis and what he does here but this is just not up to the standards I think he’s tried to establish.  Every time someone in gaming says something about someone political doesn’t automatically equal news related to the cause of what politicians are trying to do to video games.

  29. 0
    Anonymous says:

    Is there a particular reason why she wouldn’t? Part of a politician’s job (and their various staffers’ jobs) is to be hyper-aware of public opinion and anything being said about them.

    And just because other people are saying it doesn’t make it any less inappropriate… that’s a pretty lame excuse, actually.

  30. 0
    hellscaper says:

    He’s been up to his no-good sexist shenanigans ever since god of war. Remember how many titties were hangin’ out in that? As if women had never heard of clothes before the turn of the century. What a SEXIST PIG. HOW DARE HE SAY MILF WHEN TALKING ABOUT A VEEP.

     

    P.S. stop getting your panties in a bunch

  31. 0
    GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    She really hasn’t done much other than look cute for the cameras though…excluding what she did in Alaska of course…

     

    -Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007) Just to name a few…

  32. 0
    Father Time says:

    If it helps you guys he retracted that statement in the video.

    GP where’s your mentioning of that eh?

    EDIT: Oh and he also has some political criticism of Palin and basically says something along the lines of: I can’t look at her and see someone who can lead the free world I look at her and see someone who’s only good at f’ng. It was an attack on her personally, nothing more.

  33. 0
    Father Time says:

    Oh my God a man made an offside comment that judged a women based off her body, quick somebody call the PC police we need to turn this into a big deal pronto.

  34. 0
    Michael Brooks ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Only further proving this guy’s a Class A douchebag.

    And anyone who has played the crass God of War should not be surprised by his comments.

  35. 0
    Father Time says:

    Agreed, it’s a transparent attempt at trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

    It reminds me of the stupid crap being thrown over Don Imus. I bet that if Jaffe was a famous director the news media would be fawning over this guessing at what Palin’s reaction would be and eventually we’d get Palin saying she was deeply hurt or some crap (kinda like Hillary’s fake tears). But no Jaffe is not a famous director he’s a famous game designer so the mainstream gamer media will have to turn this into a big deal. And look here comes GP to do just that.

  36. 0
    Anonymous says:

    You’re missing the point, he didn’t simply say ‘she’s attractive’.  He said ‘the only thing I think she’s good for is f*cking‘.  That is reducing her to a sex object in his eyes, and publicly stating it.

  37. 0
    Father Time says:

    "If you can look at ANY woman and say the only thing she’s good for is ‘f*cking’, then you are a sexist."

    Err no.

    A sexist is when you discriminate against an entire gender not against one particular person.

  38. 0
    Father Time says:

    In my opinion someone’s personal life shouldn’t have to be explained and accounted for in his proffesional life, so in that retrospect I really don’t see your rationale for putting this up as sufficient.

    It wasn’t newsworthy Dennis. Although I guess if someone says the only redeeming quality of a VP is that they look attractive it can be taken as quite an insult.

    Oh and saying a woman’s attractive does not reduce her to a sex object. If I said I think a women was intelligent does that reduce her to nothing but a brain? How about if comment only on her sense of humor or hair color, or some other attribute.

  39. 0
    Anonymous says:

    So then you’d be totally comfortable with walking up to your girlfriend’s mother the first time you meet her and calling her a MILF to her face?

    I find the term very offensive and childish. Watching the rest of his video didn’t improve my opinion, either. If he’d made the comment in private, amongst friends, I agree- no big deal. But the point is he made this statement, publicly, and like it or not plenty of people seem to have found it offensive, which can only further hurt their opinion of the gaming community.

  40. 0
    Sharpless says:

    You guys are being way too uptight about this. There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling her a MILF (actually, "GILF" would be more accurate). I mean, good grief… lighten up, people.

  41. 0
    GRIZZAM PRIME says:

    Hmm…yeah, both parties come out looking a little lame. OVERALL THOUGH, I don’t give a fuck.

     

     

    -Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007) Just to name a few…

  42. 0

    Whoever is writing the GP blog article on Jaffe is totally overreacting. Jaffe is not the only person to have had the impression that she’s a MILF in that she has yet to do or say anything to validate herself as a vice presidential candidate beyond being a cute face that can recite someone else’s speech. This is the point Jaffe made.

     

    I agree its a little surprising to see someone in Jaffe’s position make an un-PC statement like this and I expected people to be offended, but Christ, take a breather and listen to what the person actually said and not what you want to think the person said because its a convenient opportunity to make an exagerated political claim. You’re brewing a storm in a tea cup. Get over yourself.

  43. 0
    Anonymous says:

    Wow…just watched his video post. 

    "She’s not a milf because god forbid if I did fuck her and she got pregnant…she’s against abortion and I’m not takin care of that baby"

    You are a classy adult, let me tell ya.

  44. 0
    Andy says:

    Reducing any one person to the point of saying they are ‘only good for f*cking’ is incredibly innapropriate.  Who cares if it fits the definition of sexism?  It’s prejudiced, childish, and plain disturbed.

    If you can look at ANY woman and say the only thing she’s good for is ‘f*cking’, then you are a sexist.  I’m sure every woman on Earth has more than that one redeeming quality. 

    If you want to simply state the matter that YOU can’t see anything else besides that, that’s another matter – but is that really something you should be proclaiming publicly?

  45. 0
    Anonymous says:

    I thought his comment was in pretty bad taste. Maybe he’s not sexist, but it sure as hell made him sound sexist, and juvenile to boot (not the kind of representation we need in the industry right now… the rest of the world already thinks we’re a bunch of sociopathic, boob obsessed shut-ins). If he was trying to make some kind of point about her political inexperience or something, I think he could have done it in a more intelligent manner.

    I don’t like Palin or her policies, but she deserves basic courtesy and respect.

  46. 0
    Matt Browne ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    I was going to write a post along those lines but upon reading yours it appears you’ve said everything I would have. There’s a pretty clear line between reporting on the news and making the news, but I’m inclined to think that on this issue GP has stepped over that line. When an article starts with "The other day I called out" and then attempts to get into a slapfight over personal opinions it’s just not professional any more. This place is either an outlet for serious journalism or a blog. It can’t be both at the same time.

  47. 0
    Steve ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    It’s the how of the comment that can offend.

    "That girl has an amazing body" is a lot better than:

    "That bitch has fly titties".

    Spot the difference?

  48. 0
    Father Time says:

    So in other words if someone asked him to name three things he liked about Palin his response would more or less be

    "She’s sexy … and I can’t think of anything else."

    It’s an insult to Plain no doubt (and someone insulting Palin or Biden shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone) but it sure as hell isn’t sexism.  If you watch the clip all the way through he mentions reasons why he doesn’t like her.

  49. 0
    Anonymous says:

    I don’t know but the original wording mad it seem like his problem is not that she is a milf but that so far it appears (to him) that it is all she is. Maybe she is more but hasn’t proven that to him yet or maybe she is just eye-candy to attract libidinous men as well as women wanting to break the glass ceiling of sexism in politic but I could understand him having a problem with her if all she managed to prove to him is her sexual appeal.

    It is a good thing as it proves that he is not letting himself being politically influenced solely on sexual grounds; i.e. she also has to prove herself on other grounds which the current emphasis on her sexual appeal has made harder.

    For what it is worth, if McCain is elected I hope that she is more than fluff as he is likely to die near the end of his term (natural life expectancy for a man is around 76 I believe which he would approach by then and POTUS is a rather stressful job).

  50. 0
    Steve ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    So, in other words you’re saying "there’s nothing to see here, move along"?

    To paraphrase Cypher in The Matrix: Ignorance must be bliss.

  51. 0
    Steve ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    PLEASE stop rewording Jaffe’s comments! He said something to the effect of "she’s only good for f*cking" – that is not even in the same country as "nothing but nice to look at".

    I’ll lighten up when you start treating the issue with a bit of thought.

  52. 0
    Ohma says:

    I’d have to disagree with GTA. While the majority of fans may be flaming asshats, I think that the games (well, at least since Vice City, 3 was kinda’ light on social commentary) have been more about saterizing US culture via exaggeration, sexism comes part and parcel with that, and if my memory serves, characters in game who are sexist (or cultural trends which are sexist in nature) are rarely shown in anything close to a positive light.

     

     

    …though that could just be my interpretaion and not at all what the developers had intended…which would make me sad…

  53. 0
    jdun says:


    You are a moron. Please take the time to do some research on the subject before posting.

  54. 0
    jdun says:


    You are a moron. Please get your information right before posting.

     

  55. 0
    Anonymous says:

    She’s a Republican. There’s no logical reason why she is where she is today. She SHOULD, according to conservative doctrine, be in the kitchen, where a woman belongs.

  56. 0
    Father Time says:

    Well he does call himself liberal but if you watch the rest of the film he criticizes her stances on certain issues so I don’t know where you get he wouldn’t viote for her no matter what.

  57. 0
    Anonymous says:

    I think this is the dumbest article I’ve seen on GP. It’s not very intelligent. Some game developer in his backroom blogged a video saying a politician was "the perfect definition of a MILF". Maybe it’s a big deal because the 2008 election is so important. Well, every election is important. But obviously, the election in 2004 was the least of worries in everyone’s mind.

  58. 0
    Galaxor 3000 says:

    "I’m saying when I look at her, that’s the only redeeming quality I can find in her…"

    This part of his statement tells me he’s a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat/Liberal and wouldn’t vote for McCain-Palin no matter what her beleifs/achievements.

    99.999% of all humans have some "redeeming quality". She has more qualities than him. His acheivements are becoming a fat-assed video game designer. Care to run for office Jerkoff? Good luck.

  59. 0
    TJLK says:

    I’d be more willing to accept it if we actually declared war and went through the proper channels.  Instead one man decided to go to war without congressional approval.  What kind of Republic lets one man decide when we should go to war or not?  Does a Republic even exist when one man holds that much power?  Right now we are fighting an undeclared war and I just don’t think that is right.

  60. 0
    Anonymous says:

    It just proves that the guy has no taste.  I mean who in his right mind would ‘F’ that skank?  GoW also proves that he’s a bit deficient in the taste department, but then again what do I know? After all, I was one of the only ones not taken in by that game’s hype.  I think it was a load of homo-erotic garbage.

  61. 0
    TheEdge says:

    The one thing is is that the reason we have so many prisoners is because of the War on Drugs.

    I do agree with not policing the world,but I also support the War in Iraq(but I do believe we should start withdrawing soon).

  62. 0
    TJLK says:

    I’ve seen Penn and Tellers bit on Frank Luntz.  I thought it was pretty funny.

    Well we can agree to disagree but I think that Facism is a good word to use to describe the neo-conservative movement.

    Merriam Webster defines Fascism as such: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

    I like that definition and I believe that is the direction the Neo-Conservatives will take us.

    Frank Zappa defines Fascism in his statement on the show Crossfire.  "When you have a government that prefers a certain moral code derived from a certain relgion and that moral code turns into legislation to suit one religious point of veiw."

    So maybe they don’t openly hold race as a big issue but you have to wonder if they don’t inside their mind.  Its really a culture thing, they don’t enjoy tolerating different cultures.  But again this plays into race because for some people race is a big part of culture.  I always assumed that we were supposed to tolerate cultural differences but it seems in today’s America its all about one culture.  Anyone still hear people talking about Obama being a Muslim?  Why would it matter?  Religion doesn’t belong in politics and the Republicans are all about discussing things from a religious perspective.  When casting a vote religion shouldn’t matter.  It shouldn’t matter if the person is Satanic, Athiest, Christian, Hindu or Muslim.  Its what they plan to do when they are elected that matters.

    In terms of Democrats they really are about social programs.  Universal Healthcare is a big one.  Public services makes the individual dependent upon their government.  It goes against the idea that people should take responsibility for themselves.  I can’t get behind the idea of the government essentially treating you as if you are a child and can’t live without them.

    On the war on terror issue I tend to think that if we stopped policing the world we wouldn’t be hated.  If we wern’t hated then maybe people wouldn’t want to attack us.  Even if they did we would have a much stronger defense to deal with it.  And if you buy into the idea that terrorist hate us for our freedom and want to attack us so we don’t have them anymore well then they won.  The government takes away freedoms in the name of the war on terror… isn’t that what the terrorist wanted to begin with according to that idea?  There comes a time when that idea just breaks down and doesn’t make sense at all.  I think the ‘terrorists’ hate us because we are over there.  I say if we leave them alone they won’t be able to motivate more people to hate us.  I mean the CIA installs goverments in foreign nations.  Put yourself in their shoes.  If another country installed a government in America we’d be pretty pissed off as well.  It might be difficult to put yourself in the shoes of your enemy but if you want to make the correct choice you usually have to.

    I really like this quote from Ron Paul and I think it sums up my stance on foriegn policy rather well.

    "Ultimately, our money, weapons, and interventionist policies never buy us friends for long, and more often we simply arm our future enemies. The politicians responsible for the mess are usually long gone when the trouble starts, and voters with a short attention span don’t connect the foreign policy blunders of twenty years ago with today’s problems. But wouldn’t our long-term interests be better served by not creating the problems in the first place?" – Ron Paul

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    Father Time says:

    As much as I dislike Republicans I cannot bring myself to calling them all fascists and I don’t think I can call all the Democrats socialists either (and to be perfectly clear I don’t belong with either party).

     

    Oh and when you say "but we currently should not be involved with the affairs of Iraq, Georgia, Iran, Pakistan, Israel, Jordan, Russia or North Korea." I have to disagree, I think if the war on terror calls for it I think we should get in the affairs of at least Pakistan or wherever those scumbags are hiding (I also believe that once said scumbags are gone we should leave). Oh and if you haven’t heard North Korea is counterfitting our money so I think that’s a good enough reason to stick our nose into their business.

    Everything else I agree with and on that note I wonder if you have ever heard of Penn and Teller.

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    origamikid says:

    are you freaking serious?

    Serously why dont you grow a pair? Who gives a shit if a guy who makes games thinks a women is gonna be a good fuck?

    No seriously consider it? He posted it on his website to people that know him or are interested inhim, its not like we went on national television and declared that she shouldnt be vp cause she looks like a good fuck ..no he was saying o look thier is the possible new VP,…i think she will be shit…but shes hot tho.

     

    Seriously GP, just keep reporting on NEWS

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    Gorman says:

    Are you guys serious about this? You make it sound like Brad Pitt has never be referred to by the opposite gender as a hottie etc. Are men offended when women refer to Obama as an attractive man? You need to grow up.

    I was intending on joining the ECA but if this is the type of discussion that is considered worth having I guess I’m just wasting my time. Is it the vocabulary that you have a problem with? Reagan had similar comments from older women when he was running for President so why is it suddenly unacceptable to make similar comments about a woman.

    Grow up.

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    TJLK says:

    Jaffe is simply honest about Sara Palin.  I don’t see any problem with how he talks about her.

    Only problem I have with the video is that when he talks about the purpose of America is to spread democracy or ideals.  I disagree and if you accurately read you’d probably disagree as well.  You have to at least concede that the spreading of liberty by force wasn’t the original intent of America anyway.  The original intent was to preserve liberty here, not interveign in foriegn affairs and spread freedom.

    I hate the fact everyone is so convinced that if you are conservative that you believe in creationism, are anti-abortion, belive in everything the Bible says and essentially hate personal liberty.  Thats not what conservatism is.  Yes the republican party has perverted the meaning of true conservatism but that doesn’t mean the traditional conservatives are the same as them. 

    I’m so conservative I’m a libertarian.  I watch porn, I believe women have a choice, I don’t want to be parented by my government, I want the drug war to end, I want the government to preserve individual liberty instead providing safety nets or a welfare state, I am against the foolish economic situation we find ourselves in (fuck the fed and fuck soft money), I’m disturbed that America has more prisoners than any other country(some of them are even secret), and I’m totally for preserving the constitution. Generally I believe when the government gets involved with something they tend to screw things up. I don’t know many people that would disagree with most of what I just said.

    Neo-conservatives is what Jaffe is talking about.  These new age Republicans are not conservatives, they are a few steps away from being Fascists(Not exagerating).  And these Democrats or ‘liberals’… well they are socialists essentially(Again, not exagerating).  Its okay to hold those beliefs but lets be honest and call things for what they are.  I’m not a fan of beating around the bush or using politically correct language to make anyone comfortable.  You can always change the words you use but that alone won’t change the meaning placed behind them.  Inventing new words to replace words that already exist is usually done with the intent to trick others into accept your argument.  In otherwords it is essentially a dishonest practice.

    There are a few difference between Republicans and Democrats but not enough for me to believe they aren’t almost the same party.  Their policies are still similar and still go against the traditional purpose of America.  Which is to defend THIS country and to perserve liberty in THIS country.  There comes a time to get involved in foreign affairs but we currently should not be involved with the affairs of Iraq, Georgia, Iran, Pakistan, Israel, Jordan, Russia or North Korea.  Would you be happy if China started building military bases in Mexico and Canada?  Ya know, right next to the oil in Alaska and Texas. Perhaps policing the globe isn’t the answer if you wish to preserve liberty in America and wish to have positive relations with others.  If we began trading with countries on friendly terms and started to shut down some of the over 700 foriegn military bases then perhaps we would increase the amount of respect and admiration we receive from other nations.  You don’t alienate the world by trading with them and letting them decide for themselves.  You don’t gain friends by bullying.  You can’t spread liberty with a gun but you can defend it.

    Republicans and Democrats are completely ass-backwards.  Honestly, if you argue why their policies are effective and I promise you the majority of the time common sense will shoot down those arguments.

    Gorman – The ECA does own this blog but they repeatedly say they wish for Game Politics to kind of do its own thing.  I’m pretty sure the ECA isn’t concerned about David Jaffe calling Sara Palin a ‘milf’.  Maybe the ECA is concerned about what her opinions are on video game consumption but I doubt that this particular story is something that even shows up on their radar.  I guess I could be wrong on this but I have a good feeling I’m not.  I wouldn’t let anything on the comment page or even some of the posts on this website rub you the wrong way and discourage you from joining.  In my experience with the ECA they stick with the stances on their website and do a good job with that.  I’m sure you could also e-mail them and see what they are about more if you are curious.

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    Anonymous says:

    I think it’s funny when people try to defend themselves by referring to their opponent with some sort of antiquated terminology. “Victorian sensibilities”? Yes, because treating women with equal dignity as persons was sooooo in vogue during the Victorian era. I also see a lot of people reacting in a very juvenile manner in these comments. What, are we all middle school bullies making excuses for giving someone a swirlie? 😛

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    Noah Fence says:

    Oh come on. This is ridiculous.

    Can anyone take a joke in today’s society? If you treat these comments as some kind of deliberate attempt to undermine women and reduce them to nothing but sex objects, you are far too sensitive. So Palin may be offended by the fact that Jaffe sees her as nothing but nice to look at – so what? That doesn’t mean people have to expand it into some stab at women and their roles in society.

    The fact is that anyone, besides Sarah Palin, who finds these comments offensive is far too sensitive towards the issue of sexism. Lighten up.

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    relax_guy says:

    I think what he said was pretty fucking rude, don’t get me wrong…  But I have to agree with him.. in that.. I feel like the oxygen that these republicans displace is more valuable to us all then they could ever be.

     

     

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    Digipen89 says:

    This is going too far. Listen, everyone has an opinion. David Jaffe has an opinion. I have an opinion. My opinion is Jaffe is not sexist. Other’s is that he may be or is a sexist.

    We could argue and argue but we are not going to sway each other’s opinions.

    Let’s all just walk away before it gets worse than it is now.

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    Steve ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

     Sarah Palin is a reprehensible person who has handed over her soul to her Republican Masters, to be rewarded with power and money. There is nothing positive that you can say about her.

    I think your holier than thou attitude about this is inappropriate. You’re not absolutely right, and this issue is not black and white. His response is a good one, and your suggestion that calling Palin worthless means you’re calling all women worthless is asburdly ignorant. Perhaps you aren’t capable of differentiating an opinion on an individual from a stereotype, but please don’t presume to apply your limitations to the rest of us.

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    jasonla says:

    exactly what is the point she’s hot she’s a mother and a MILF, you can’t deny it and saying it is only speaking the truth. Consider how many adult costumes there are now of her and i’ve even seen on BBC london escorts dressing as her to get more clients.

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    Steve ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    Uh, Darksaber? Your doctor just called – he’s pretty insistent that you take your medication … I think you should listen to him, dude.

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    DarkSaber says:

    Anything to avoid saying you over-reacted, huh GamePolitics? I guess he’s supposed to stick to designing games that let you decapatate medusas, force minotaurs to give your blades a blow job and tear wings of harpies and leave comments on politicians to you, eh Dennis? That’s 2 counts of epic fail now.

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    Anonymous says:

     There are countries where every Tom, Dick, and Harry has a political party that has a chance of winning, but they certainly have not managed to come up with a better formula for democracy than the United States. A successful democracy is more than just having a lot of parties. Things like an educated middle class, stable institutions, and an emphasis on rule of law are much bigger factors than just having a third party win.

     Your suggestion to dismantle the IRS is basically saying "start over". Which is not a realistic solution. And your basic point is that simplifying the tax system would lead to greater compliance. Well, duh. If we simplified our current tax code the same would happen. And this is not even talking about the potential black market that could develop with a 30% national sales tax, or how the hell we would we tax something like services, which don’t always involve transfer of property or manufacture of goods.

    And please don’t put words in the mouths of the Founding Fathers. Alexander Hamilton and other Federalists formed the other half of the Founding Fathers that romantics too often forget. These men were for a strong central government and  were pro-industry to the point of creating the 1st Bank of the US to help with modernization.  

    The strength of the Republic is from the balance of competing interests in society, not from the explosive change wrought from one  faction browbeating the other.

     

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    ZippyDSMlee says:

    Ohhh an  Anonymous  that is not a troll how delicious!

    First off a 3rd party winning will break the status que for a moment and this destabilizes not government but politics’s this is why its so important it must be done to send a message to the politicians people are really watching, sadly after Bush..co any monkey can be in the white house that much more has been made clear, tis ot so much who’s on top but who’s running things and as a republic more than 1 person runs things.

     

    You will never fix the system without the threat of a 3rd party wining and without a 3rd aprty win they have no fear thus will never change..

    Now for taxes
       
    So you would rather have a complicated tax system that un fairly seeks to take 40% or more from the rich/business while making life difficult for the lesser classes though multiple levels of taxation creating more bureaucracy as so it might can give some money back?

    By gutting the IRS into you make X amount you pay X amount PERIOD you’d almsot double the tax money made just by gutting the IRS.

    Most of us would rather pay 20-30% of what we make and not have to worry about filing taxes as whatever we make the taxes are paid.

    This would also remove Federal taxes on just about everything as WE the individual and business pay our fair share of the profit we make.

    Also in turn you can make it a national sales tax adding about 30% to everything once you remove the federal tax on it and then thats even less paper work and bureaucracy to fck up due to keeping things simple.

    There are no loop holes in a flat tax system you pay what you "earn" the more you earn or make money from the more likely you have to fill out crap but still its better than the BS and chips system we have now.

    ———
    For the ZOMG! anti socialists….

    Oh! and BTW the US has been a socialistic nation since social security was founded only we have not had hard left/hard right mainstream dickary in politics as long as others have had.

    Get over yourselfs if you think we are not a Popular Socialistic Republic, look hard at the current election and tell me its not Popular Republic beauty pageant for a republic filled with witless sheeple who enjoy having their rights taken away by the people they elected because its unpatriotic to question!

    GOD DAMN THE US AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!

    Oh sorry I said that as a pretense..its already happened.. the damning I mean… since the 2 parties are broken and all I mean 😛

    (Do apologize for the harshness of my tone, but it should not be to out of line to emphasize my points…whatever they are LOL )

    The forefathers did not seek to sternly control influence (particularity business) as business of the time had solid local interests now adays business has little local interest and as a result government has lil local interest, we have lost oversight in government and by losing it we lose the right to govern ourselves…

    I is fuzzy brained mew =^^=
    http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/
    (in need of a bad overhaul)

  77. 0
    jdun says:


    Let’s face facts. He is a moron and so are most of the posts on this thread. This is the reason why the general public perceives gaming as bad influences. Think before you post. Do not try to defend him, its just make you stupid.

     

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    Monte says:

     "Satisfied" is not how i would describe it… more like they feel like they couldn’t do anything about it even they didn’t like it. The high majority of people consider voting for a third party to be like throwing away you’re vote; they have that mentality that if we don’t like either of the 2 party candidates that we should atleast vote for the lesser of two evils because voting third party is like not voting at all. For instance, there are many hillary supporters jumping over to McCain in protest against the democrats, why not jump over to third party.

    There are many republicans who do not like McCain, their are many democrats who do not like Obama… but instead of giving the third parties any kind of REAL consideration, they either grudgingly fall behind their parties candidiate, or vote against their party entirely. 

    The 2 party system is a source of a lot of problems… the partisanship between democrats and republicans have turned things into a serious red state vs blue state kind of thing. The Democratic congress’s abilities to take a lot of actions has been thwarted heavily by bush who vetoes everything they put forward, and the democrats use their majority to stop the republicans from pushing forward anything bush wouldn’t veto. The supreme court has been about getting either liberals as judges or conservatives to give one side ruling power, with only one of which that actually acts as a swing voter. Frankly, things would be a lot more fair if all 9 judges were moderate instead of left or right… might see more cooperation between them instead of them splitting and fighting against eachother. Really, their was a reason why George washington hated the idea of politcal parties… united we stand, divided we fall; politcal parties birng some people together but their tear the entire country in half

    The only thing stupid about blaming the two party system is that their is little that can be done… you can’t abolish the parties as new parties would just form up from like minded people. Bringing about a third party is almost impossible thanks to the "vote for the lesser evil" mentality that people have developed; not to mention the problem is that without the two party system you would end up having officials voted in with only like 34% of the vote instead of 51%… The only thing that sounds like a solution to the problems caused by the two party system is to get rid of the far right and the far left and bring about more moderate politicians and bring about an age of bi-partisanship. Frankly, i was really hoping that either McCain or Obama would have been willing to risk their nomination to pursue such a cause… but they didn’t… oh well, better luck in 2012

  79. 0
    nightwng2000 says:

    Seems to me it’s a pretty blunt way of saying he feels she’s got nothing going in her favor but her looks.  He made a short point that he didn’t find her experience in the political field of any value.  So, yes, he in fact DID consider her other aspects beyond looks.

    Like it or not, the first thing you learn about someone is how they look, good or bad.  Once you research them, directly or indirectly, you can take other factors into account.  But looks will still remain, for good or ill.

    The truth is that both men and women use appearance and sexuality as a determining factor.  If you say someone look like they got beat down with a lead pipe, even if they didn’t, you’re still talking about their looks.

    There have been discussions in the past as to whether someone with a physical deformity of the face could run for President.  Rest assured, if someone did, the looks of that individual would receive a lot of attention, from both men and women.

    Everyone CLAIMS to be offended because someone’s appearance is judged, whether positive or negative.  The fact is that given the right condistions, ANYONE will use the judgement of appearance as a factor in how they judge someone.

    I don’t condemn him for it.  It was a bit blunt, but then, many folks have similar personailities.

    Nightwng2000

    NW2K Software

    Nightwng2000 has also updated his MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

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    Anonymous says:

    i agree with David here.. i love gamepolitics but youve gone and done a bit of an over reaction there? i thought you where down for a laugh as you point out so many times in the jack thompson stories? .. and she is a milf

  81. 0
    Ace ( User Karma: 0 ) says:

    " Referring to Palin in public statements as a MILF reduces her – reduces any woman – to the level of a sex object."

    Ah, so if I were to say, call a mexican I see stupid, that would reduce him, any mexican, to the level of a cinder block? Hell. No.
    This stinks heavily of political correctness for the sake of political correctness. Do we understand what he means? Yes, he even explained it in a seperate post. Do we agree? Yeah, loads of people agree that we don’t see anything redeeming about Palin other than her MILF like looks.

    What’s the problem? Sexism? No, he’s not applying this to an entire gender, just her in particular and it’s spot on tbh.

    I for one applaud that someone in his position would speak his mind as opposed to delivering some PC drivel and keep the rest to himself. You know where you stand with him.

    Just damn disappointed in this site now.

  82. 0
    Anonymous says:

    The media has had this country by the balls for so long. So its up to you to set the tone for what is right and what is not to an artist who is freely expressing his thoughts? He’s right as far as I am concerned but even if he wasn’t he is free to explore his thoughts on the process and discover the social context that lead him to that conclusion with his fans and followers.

    Thank god for Youtube and on-the-Net-forever it allows us to take some control over the content we want. But then there are journalists like you who use thier blogs to tell us all what we should say and do.

    Two words for you .. fuck off.

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    King of Fiji says:

    Cougar probably would of been a better word to use and at the least he didn’t call her a nappy headed hoe so lets just be glad it didn’t end up being something of Imus controversial proportions.  xD

  84. 0
    Anonymous says:

     Wait a minute, why are we taking what David Jaffe is saying even remotely seriously? Is he a political leader? A religious leader? At least  a poli sci professor at a city college?

    No, this is just the equivalent of some guy on the street. So why are we giving so much attention to him?

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    Anonymous says:

     You realize that the two party system is has been around longer than most statess? It’s not a new thing, and it something that the american public seem realtively satisfied with, or they elect a third party candidate, it’s not like there’s any lack of them (a lakc of sane one’s maybe). But seriously, blaming the two party system for all the nations problems is pretty stupid.

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    Anonymous says:

    (you want to give money to the rich? kill the IRS make a flat tax that right there would do everything that can be done to prop up business and bring it back into the US as well as make everyone richer! not just the top X%…)

     

    Flat taxes are extremely regressive.

    And to be honest, I just stopped listening when you decried that a 3rd party would be the best solution. Some 3rd parties may have ideas that are good, that can be adopted by the established parties in some form, but most of what they espouse is garbage. They parade the word "revolution" constantly, without thinking of the consequences that rapid change will bring. To use Ron Paul supporters as an example, when I see them cry "revolution", most of them have no idea that revolution for most of history has resulted in society becoming extremely worse before getting better. Most of them don’t have my background of coming from a country that has experienced revolutions both externally and internally inflicted.

    This is why I support centrism. Which is not as sexy as 3rd parties or half naked pictures of Liberty leading the final revolution, but at the end of the day will get the job done.

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    ZippyDSMlee says:

     

    She is a MILF or GILF (first word governor) as RT at Chattanooga talk radio 102.3 says, these are more terms of endearment than anything else either you roll with being sexy and smart or hate everyone for calling you sexy or smart and not "beautiful and intelligent".

    Its like calling  Zippy an idiot by only looking at how he says things and not the total content of what he says even if he admits to to being like a zombifed kitty.

    Now I do like the fact shes strong willed and is intelligent however the mindset is a bust for me, because shes a ditto head for the republican riche, constantly taking it and "dittoing" herself to the point she like they(the radio talking heads) believe what they say oozing about things that she says is private to her but not not to you, talking about her life but not what she will do for the betterment of the country out side of the reaper blurbs of "no new taxes for the rich", "more war", "my morals are law", "the evil liberal heathens".

    You know what? I want a Liberal on personal issues and rights and a Conservative on public matters like infrastructure and foreign policy.

    Sadly what we have had is either liberals who try and enact PC zero thought mind sets into public matters wasting time and money through ineptitude and conservatives who think their personal beliefs are absolute and should be made into law even if it turns people back into 2nd class or worse citizens and the whole give more money to the rich because they might spend it here spew. (you want to give money to the rich? kill the IRS make a flat tax that right there would do everything that can be done to prop up business and bring it back into the US as well as make everyone richer! not just the top X%…)

    So you know what?
    fck you, you antiquated Conservative hypocrites and fck you, you witless Liberal sheep!

    We all should vote 3rd party just to gain some control back from the bureaucracy the rich and powerful have heaped upon us with the shovel they were given by special interest!

    I is fuzzy brained mew =^^=
    http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/
    (in need of a bad overhaul)

     

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    Timmay! says:

    I love how, when someone takes any kind of offense to some form of language, all of a sudden the term "victorian" gets thrown around.  So the moment someone finds something offensive, and calls it out, even if it’s just to say "dude, somebody could take that the wrong way, just a heads up", they’re all of a sudden prudes?

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    Viewtiful Joe says:

    Kinda tired of hearing about Sarah Palin all together.  Not a SINGLE person has been able to say a good thing about her and I’m tired of all the bashing.  I don’t personally like her, but I’ve had enough.

    On the other hand, I agree with Jaffe.  She’s got a mature sort of appeal to her sexually, and SADLY I think that’s the only reason I’d ever consider even reading an article about her.  Her censorship crap, to her daughters pregnancy debacle are tiring and a waste page space.

    There are women out there absolutely ready to reduce themselves to the sum of their parts.  Porn stars, and they’re quite aware of their appeal.  I think, as a politician, if sexiness can win votes then Sarah Palin is going to make that work for her.

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