Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

September 6, 2008 -

Yesterday we mentioned a Destructoid report which said that EA's upcoming space-horror-survival title Dead Space had been banned in Germany, Japan and China. Destructoid sourced the info to Dead Space community manager Andrew Green.

Right away, the story didn't pass our smell test:

  • Germany, perhaps. They've been tough on game violence of late. But Japan? The home of Resident Evil?
  • Does EA even distribute console games in China (due to piracy concerns)?
  • No announcements from the individual censorship bodies of the three nations?
  • All three bans come in simultaneously?
  • Also of note, Australia's notoriously censorious OFLC cleared Dead Space with MA15+
  • And the BBFC, which banned Manhunt 2 in the U.K., cleared Dead Space with 18
  • No official press release from EA on the alleged bans?

GP immediately contacted EA, with distinctly unsatisfactory results. The top PR dog didn't respond to our e-mail. Later in the day we tracked down the EA guy who is handling Dead Space PR, and put the question to him in two e-mails and a live phone call. Never got an answer one way or the other. EA doesn't know if one of their high profile titles managed to get banned in three countries? Sorry, not buying that. Or, they know but aren't saying? Unacceptable.

GamePolitics reader Afirejar posted a comment to yesterday's story which argued that the supposed German ban was bogus:

I can confirm for a fact that Dead Space has not been banned in Germany. Under German law it's not possible to ban products before they are actually available. The game isn't out yet, so it can't be banned, it's that simple. It's just not possible under German law.

 

This seems to be nothing more than a marketing stunt, German gaming paper GameStar even has official word from EA, that it's a hoax. The USK ratings process isn't even finished yet.  (Sorry, German only)
 

Later, Videogaming247 cited a German language story by Eurogamer.de, which negates the report of a Dead Space ban in Germany:

Eurogamer.de’s scotched a report that said Dead Space had already been banned in Germany. Basically, it hasn’t.

 

The site’s spoken to EA Germany, and the game is still with the USK [ratings body], apparently, so no one knows yet if there are going to be any restrictions on the horror’s launch.

GP: It's time for EA to put an end to this nonsense. If there is a multi-country ban, gamers deserve to know about it. If there's not, gamers deserve to stop having their chains yanked...

UPDATE: Hey, I want to point out that I'm not faulting Destructoid here. They were not the only outlet reporting this, just the first. If the info is wrong, it seems that it somehow originated with the community managers of Dead Space.


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Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

I wanted to find out the ending to dead space on my own, a trick sohbet link is frowned upon in these parts Saç Ekimi

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Found this on the deadspace website about the banning.

http://deadspace.ea.com/blog/

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

I guess if the OFLC gives Dead Space a MA15+, then from the sounds of it, perhaps they will give MadWorld an MA15+ rating too.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

I believe that they just ban it now and later allow it to be sold.

Thats good advertisement, isn't it? The game sounds interesting to me and now I want to play it just because I want to know why the hell they banned it...

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Yeah, But if the game is realised, Im hoping it is my moneys worth, It wouldnt be that fun if they started to remove content, The game wouldnt be scary anymore,It probably be just as lame As obscure series,But i'd never see the day japan would start banning games,They created them, and im hoping to go to japan someday too.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Technically, video games as we know them weren't created in Japan.

They're actually an American invention. I think it was i nthe 1950s Ralph Baer thought up the idea and put it into practice with The Brown Box and later the Obysee.

Japan just pretty much saved video games for mfading form memory permanently.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

yup, Ralph Baer is the inventor/father of video games, and Nolan Bushnell is the father of the game industry since he is the guy that turned it into profit.  Both are Americans, even though Nintendo is the responsible for the rebirth of the game industry.  I definitely give them props for bringing the industry back alive, but America definitely started it. 

Does anyone else still think it is funny that Steve Jobs leaving Atari/Nolan and starting Apple is one of the funniest things in the world?  I have known that for so long, but just thinking, Steve is now so freakin rich and can do whatever he wants, and hates video games so much that he refuses to make it easy to make video games for anything apple makes on purpose...  Key example, iPhone, haha.

 

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

God you're a dumbass for not realizing that the PR guy wanted to screw with peoples minds.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

it is not surprising that dead space  got through with out any edits in the u.k since we have pretty good guide lines in place and since it seems that for the majority of the game you are fighting enemy's that barely look like humans they would let it get through with ease (see doom 3). On a realeted note the development team on dead space have said they removed stuff them self's because they found it in to bad taste.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Oh, sweet. People take this chance to lash on certain countries for 'banning a game' and 'oppressing the people' and it turns out it wasn't even true! How typical of Americans.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

What's wrong with bashing countries for banning a game? Do tell me why that is wrong and try not to sound like a typical elitist prig in the process.

---------------------------------------------------- Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Because the ban never happened in the first place and some threads then degenerated into "ERRRGGHH CHINA SUCKS FUCK THEIR COMMUNISM AND HIEL HITLER MENTALITY"

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Just guessing here, but I think he meant the overall culture-bashing, ethnicity-bashing, and nation-bashing that ensues after enough moronic politicians from a specific landmass make a law that negatively affects videogames. Since, as we all know, politicians rarely represent their people too accurately.

For that matter, bsahing a country for a moronic video game law is the same as blaming an entire country for a war that their leaders started.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

I'm calling humourous troll. "Americans are stupid for generalising nations." While we're on the subject, homophobia is totally gay.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

"...homophobia is totally gay."

That's an "Amen" right there, Matt. LEGENDARY Win!

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Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

"If there is a multi-country ban, gamers deserve to know about it."

Gamers also deserve not to be told to buy a new copy of Mass Effect for PC after 3 installs.  (Heaven forbid someone need to free space on their HDD.)  EA is completely unconcerned with what gamers deserve.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

To be fair, they were already told to call support and get their key reactivated after three installs. I'm on my fifth install, even after a major hardware upgrade, and haven't had to pay a dime extra yet.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Japan ban a game? I could tell it was some kind of hoax just from that.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Yeah, in Japan, like... 9 games out of 10 end up with someone, or multiple people, getting violated by giant tentacle monsters.

---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

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GUFFAW'd

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Dose not mean they donot force a random game to be toned down, dead raising for isntance, even RE4...

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Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

I can't confirm that it's not banned in Japan, but at least one major Japan based online company is still selling/offering free shipping to Japan of all versions of the game.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Confirmation or no, it's really impossible to believe Japan of all places banning a game, let alone Dead Space.  I mean, they didn't ban MOH: Pacific Assault, even though there would be more of a reason to ban that.

It's a bit more believable with Germany and China, but not this soon.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Ah so its not baned in Germany yet? China likes money more than gore, they prefer banning thought though.


I would not be surprised if it was delayed and edited down for Japan.

 

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Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

The controversy surrounding Mercenaries Two managed to get me to shell out the money for it on release day. I wasn't entirely interested in it, but in the end the availablility at my local shop while I was browsing as well as the questions rumbling in my head caused me to jump at it.

Controversy can generate sales, just think about Derezz's video on the "Jack Thompson" movie.

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Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

The tought of a game where you get to parodically kill Hugo Chavez and the fact that he's actually offended by it....

ohhhh, it's such a magical feeling... must... buy... it...

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

I was planning to buy dead space for the 360, Why ban it in europe?, Cause i recall a temporary ban on Manhunt 1 after some senseless killing in europe, But i bet a demand for the dead space would cause the ban to be lifted like the manhunt 1, Cause some of the best video games are always in demand at EU,Im trying to buy a Ps2 game right now that wasnt released in the US.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

I don't think it was banned but several stores in the UK pulled it from the shelves for a while when it was linked to the murder of a 14 year old by his friend, the victims mother claimed the killer was obsessed with the Game. The police denied any link stating it was a drugs related robbery and the trial Judge placed sole responsibility for the murder on the killer (who had pleased guilty). The situation was unique to Manhunt so wouldn't set any precedent for the release of Dead Space.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

That Manhunt episode in the UK becomes only more ridiculous the more you read up on it. The murderer didn't even own the game, but the victim did.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

No they can not ban a game however they can refuse classification- essentially a ban

 

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Apology accepted

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DAMNIT I was trying to do the vader thing and strangle you... do you feel strangled at all yet?

why not get an acc here?

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Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

HOLY SHIT!!! What the fuck was that?

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Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

I mean I like chicken

oh and I wanted to find out the ending to dead space on my own, a trick link is frowned upon in these parts

Your soul is a tasty refreshing treat to ones such as I

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Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

True, I didn't want dead space before :P And will an admin please kill that anon and roast him on a spit?

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Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

What do you mean by that good sir?

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Sheesh!  Why did being banned become a good thing? Last I recall, being banned means a profit loss, so a company would do their damndest to STOP being banned, not bragging about it.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Like you didn't get a sudden urge to play Manhunt2 when you heard it was banned

(if you didn't, you sir, are a philisteine)

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Being banned is a profit loss - saying that you are isn't. Judging by the wikipedia article about "Banned in Boston". this isn't exactly new either.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

People get interested in a game by the very virtue of the fact that it is banned.  If you tell a kid he can't have something, he'll only want it more.  A game being "banned" in this day and age only generates buzz.  It's a cheap marketing tactic.

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Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

Well that's good then.  Ironically I found this great artwork from a fan of the game which depicts a good fight scene between the main character and the Necromorphs.

http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=issacfightingnecromorphxq1.png

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Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

That's not on, sir.

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

So if the game isn't banned in three countries the question becomes did they get faulty information or did they make it up?

---------------------------------------------------- Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

They probably made it up.

They're probably trying to up sales, by pretending the game has been banned in some countries.

Like for example Manhunt 2 only sold any copies is because of the controversy.

Re: They probably made it up.

seconded...  after looking into EA's current way of doing business, they are trying to massively improve their PR, including TTwo fans.  By having more games 'banned', they can sway a few TTwo fans... well, at least that they won't make GTA too kiddy.

They paid G4TV's show Xplay some massive hard cash to talk nice about them, saying they USED to be evil (though we all know they always will be, once you go evil, you never go back), as well as paying off founders of id, and other outlets.  They also paid massive hard cash for a episode of a show for TLC to pretty much advertise spore like a dirty whore.  EA is investing a lot of money to change their image, and that includes a lot of lying that you see going around. 

GameSpot, as well as other game sites, gets paid some massive hard cash to not release bad reviews for games until after games have been released for a little while, gearing articles to talk nice about EA and make them seem like the good guy as much as possible without raising suspicion, jack up review scores for some of their games, delete bad reviews from users, and moderate people who are just casually talking about certain games like Madden in a light EA does not approve of.

Re: They probably made it up.

I might dislike EA a lot, but you haven't given a single iota of proof to back your statements.

Re: They probably made it up.

Which parts do you want proof for?  It is business, and they know how to do business.  As a business person do I blame them?  Okay, yeah I do, because I feel they should have more pride in their consumers, but they are a greedy company, have been for a while, and most likely always will be for now on.  That is part of being a big company.  Though I do like to talk trash and try to get people against them, it wont stop them because they will always fool the majority of people, because they have the money to back them. (Money talks, and it talks very loudly.)

The person with the biggest club will always control the rest of the people.  Early man it was a wooden club, now it is a group of people with a lot of money...  (something like that, I couldn't remember who said it, or find the quote...)

Re: Dead Space Ban in Three Countries? We're Not Buying It

What do you expect of Destructoid?  They're a bunch of reckless jerks.  Jack Thompson

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