Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

September 8, 2008 -

Frustrated Spore users are slamming Will Wright's new release with poor, 1-star reviews on Amazon.com.

Of 642 user reviews posted as I write this, 586 are of the 1-star variety, hardly what one would expect for such a hotly-anticipated game. The negative reviews invariably mention the digital rights management (DRM) system built into Spore. This one, posted by Amazon user dwemer22, is fairly typical:

I was EXTREMELY excited about this game... Then I got on Amazon and noticed that a large number of the forums devoted to Spore were complaining of something called "SecuROM." I did a little digging and discovered that SecuROM is a piece of [DRM] software that is installed along with the game to prevent you from installing the game more than three times, in an attempt to combat piracy.

 

I was fine with that. I then read further through the forums and the Wikipedia article and discovered that SecuROM does a number of other things too, including sending mysterious packets of data back to the company from your computer (identity theft, perhaps?), prevents you from using certain programs, such as DVD and CD burners, makes it impossible for you to modify your root drive and, worst of all, will NOT uninstall without the help of a third party application. So I canceled my order...

 

I encourage EVERYBODY to not buy this game until the SecuROM Digital Rights Management is patched out or removed from later releases. On a final note, the SecuROM didn't do a thing to stop the pirates: the day after it was released in the UK, a pirated copy was to be found on the internet, SecuROM and price free.

 Via: gamesindustry.biz


Comments

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

just read at kotaku EA has no plans to drop the securom BS, and its gonna be in Red Alert 3.

but they are allowing (/sarcastic "WOO") FIVE installs!

oh boy!, still while pirates get the free run, us legit customers get screwed but we're allowed to take it 2 more times!

oh boy!

i'm still boycotting them till this limited installs is gone.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

DRM is not meant to prevent priacy because believe me anything they throughout there can be cracked and is cracked within a day of it being released at the most.

The only way a game will not be pirated is if StarFORCE is installed which can ruin your computer and being that people refuse to buy it and pirate it.

They are pretty much screwing you as a paying customer, you need to send a message to them and do not buy the product

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

 I bought an Ubisoft game with StarFORCE in it.

 

Worst experience of my life.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

this rather sucks i was looking forward to Spore, had some fun with the creature creator; and i was using just the basic demo... my laptop and desktop would be two installs alone; wouldn't be hard for me to see myself needed a 4th install if not more... i've got some games i've install on my own computers like half-a-dozen times

Frankly, we can only hope that gamers keep piling on the negative reaction to the DRM... a big enough negative reaction a long with less-than-stellar sales could be enough to get EA to make a few changes. A big evil company like EA does have a certain weakness for massive negative reaction along with poor sales. If i recall, they dropped the "need to re-activate EVERY 10 days" or something like that plan due to negative reaction. 

Granted, gotta hope that the mass pirating of the game from disgruntled gamers will not offset this and end up delivering the idea to EA "it's too late to get back your sales so it's pointless to do anything at this point"... There's nothing telling EA that the thousands of gamers pirating the game because of the DRM will turn around and buy a legal copy once EA starts making changes. 

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

I've spent hundreds of dollars on games over the last few months, and typically will only pirate a game if I have no other way of getting it legitimately (not on shelves/online purchase, refused classification and cant import etc). It is only right to support those who make the games we like, but when they insist on crippling my PC to play a game there is no way im going to support them.

Spore wasn't on my top few games list, looks a bit cartoony for my tastes, I doubt i'd buy or even bother taking the time to pirate it, but it's pretty clear to me that DRM pushes otherwise paying customers to piracy to get the version of the software they should have received in the first place. Now if only these publishers would remove their heads from their posteriors and see the same thing.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Oh joy: Another game I was looking forward to, with evil, computer-damaging DRM. Yes, I'm glad I chose to do the moral thing and wait for the actual product instead of downloading it on Bittorrent last week.

The funny thing is that the lack of DRM on a lot of older titles is the only thing that keeps them alive. I can, to this day, boot up my copy of Crusader: No Remorse without having to worry if the DRM can connect to the company's servers to verify that the copy is genuine. Stuff like SecuROM means that I won't have the same luxury in another twelve years with a copy of Bioshock or Spore.

What am I supposed to do? Buy a copy of the game and then leave it in the wrapper so I can download the pirated version? Put shortly... Why? Why should I support a company that has no means in place for me to play the game I want to pay money for without harming my computer? It's frustrating as hell to know that the only way for me to support their release is to pay them for a copy of their game, and then go give tacit approval to piracy if I don't want to infect my computer with an irremovable virus.

I'll pass on paying $70 for the priveledge of hunting down a malware-free copy of the game I just bought online. But screw it: I'll happily do it when the game's in the $5 bargain bin in six weeks. EA, you need to understand something here: You lost yourself a new sale in me, and every

Software companies, wanna know why your sales suck? It's THIS. Not pirates. Piracy always has been and always will be there. Pirates, however, don't spam Amazon with terrible reviews of your product based on hidden malware you secretly installed on their systems. Customers do. And other, potential customers, take a look at that and avoid it just like they avoid tazering a monkey in a flash ad.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Whilst I realise that this may be an unpopular suggestion, when I read the about the 'activation limit' (btw, does anyone actually /know/ what counts as an 'activation' anecdotal suggests driver updates can trigger one, as well as hardware upgrades)  why not adopt a model simmilar to MMO's, each CD key being able to be linked to three EA accounts, no account, no DL content.  MMO's as a rule have minimal problems with piracy.

 

Anyway, just a thought. 

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Hell, each CD linked to one account is fair enough.

EA don't want that.  They want you you to keep buying their latest crap - that means games that time out, and cost money to keep going (there's a reason reactivation uses premium rate phone numbers).

You can bet the game that Will Wright wrote is far more complete than the one released too - EA are kings of the expansion pack, and they'll have kept loads of stuff back to sell at full price.. they learned well from the sims model.

The problem is, people are stupid.  They'll keep buying the crap, blame the hardware manfufacturers (or 'viruses') when their machines screw up due to securerom, and like sheep continue to give EA more money for years.  They can't lose, especially when reviewers (who are under the pay of EA via advertising anyway) collude to not mention the issues.

 

 

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Anyone who won't buy Spore for something like this deserves to die.  I would buy Spore if every copy came with a dead puppy and a robot that smacks you in the face every three minutes.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

This message brought to you by your local EA representative.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Ah, so because I won't willfully infect my computer with an IRREMOVABLE virus, I deserve to die?

Y'know, evolution usually removes people as willful to inflict self-harm as you.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Maybe you're the one that deserves to die for supporting crap like this?

I refuse to buy Spore because of the SecuROM protection. The DVD drive on my computer is currently DEAD because of SecuROM messing with it. The problem started with not being able to burn disks, even with the Windows XP tool, and finally got to the point where my computer will no longer recognize disk drives, and the problem started last year, right after I installed FEAR, which also uses SecuROM.

What pisses me off as well is that EA never mentioned anything about the protection, because they knew there would have been an outcry, just like with Bioshock.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

In Soviet Russia, DRM protects you!!!

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

How about: "In Soviet Russia, DRM manages you!!!"

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

This talk of pirating the game just because of this is idiotic.  If the DRM makes you not want to pay for the game or to install the game, then don't buy it, don't install it!

You know, most developers, well aside from the suits that muck things up, get into this game for the same reasons.  They have stories they want to tell, they love games so much that they want to create their own, and they want to entertain you.  I'll let you in a secret that cuts deeper than simply not buying the game and pirating it.  Not playing the game period.  That would hurt me far more than someone pirating my game.  I consider myself an entertainer, I do this to entertain people.  Even if people still pirated my game out of protest they'll still be playing the game, they'll still end up talking about the game, and somewhere along the line people that simply hear others talk about the game will buy it.

You want to send a clear message to EA and Maxis over this DRM issue?  Let Spore go down in gaming history as the greatest game that no one played.  The only thing worse than no one remembering your game 10 years from now, is everyone remembering it because nobody played it.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

For those mentioning Bioshocks use of this DRM, also note 2K REMOVED the activation limit that is so bothersome.

they never removed the activation (which is no big whoop IMHO) but the limit of installs permitted is gone.

the EA games are the only ones who actively use the limit, and have recieved more and more flak each time they've employed this method of DRM, because no matter how they employ it (such as Crysis's version should "reset" the activations after 10 days of inactivity, whereas Mass Effect requires you to contact support to get ONE more activation setup, or the game tells you to BUY a new license) is bugged, and IMHO mistreatment of customers.

 

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

"prevents you from using certain programs, such as DVD and CD burners"

I wonder about that one.

the thing is. I have spore, it's installed, and just now I backed up a couple downloaded programs to DVD and it worked.

I mean, if I was honestly feeling the DRM butthurt, shouldn't that not be possible?

Oh, I'm sure DRM is bad an all that. But for all the demons and cthulhu-esq nightmares that are supposed to pour out of my system the moment the disc touches the drive? Not so much. I've yet to see so much as a deep one on my splash screen (*rimshot!*)

Then again I'm so massively jaded over the whole thing that I've long since stopped giving a crap, so I guess it's all the same to me.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

""prevents you from using certain programs, such as DVD and CD burners"

I wonder about that one."

I can confirm that one, actually. My girlfriend has a no-name CD-ROM drive in her system. When we bought the Nightlife expansion for The Sims 2, it absolutely refused to install for her. When she complained to EA about it, she got nowhere. When we complained about it on a Sims 2 fan site, we were told that it was SecuROM, and the way to get around it was to copy the entire CD to disk, and install from there. It installed just fine, then.

We then had to go through the exact same thing when we purchased the Family Fun Stuff Pack. We haven't bought any more Sims 2 expansions after that, despite the fact that we really do enjoy the game.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Daemon tools and Alchohol 120%, anything that lets you mount virtual DVD/CD drives. Even if you uninstall those programs, it still won't work. Trust me, I KNOW. >:|

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

I'm glad I didn't go and buy Spore yet. I had completely forgotten about this whole thing. It's the definition of nuisance. I wonder how many people pirated the game out of spite, besides the initial crack that is.

-Flipfox

-Flipfox

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

SecuROM is by far the worst DRM I have ever encountered. I bought Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War (think it was that game anyway) which also had SecuROM on it. After installing the game I braced myself for the space marine vs ork slugfest and hit play and guess what? SecuROM wouldn't let me playing because it was saying I had a virtual drive. I have never pirated a game in my life, no emulators, etc etc, so I contact SecuROM who tell me to contact whoever the hell made that game (good game btw, just cant remember the name of the company), who tell me to contact SecuROM, who over the course of 2 freaking weeks, finally determine that it is in fact their fault, and fix my game. a couple months later, I felt the desire to cause mass destruction and mayhem so I bought Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 (little did I know the human race had learned the gift of immortality in between games 1 and 3, invincible bastards), and what do i get? the same shiny message telling me I can't play my game cause SecuROM can't get it's act together, and what does SecUROM tell me? the same thing they told me last time, it couldn't possibly me their fault, contact the company, and the back-and-forth ensued with the same result as the last time, with SecuROM patching my game and letting me play. Spore (yes I did buy it, but apparently SecuROM has had my soul for some time now) luckily didn't pull the same shenanigans (awesome word, never get to use it), but at the same time the 3 install thing is what i am most angry about, I mean I still have the original Warcraft, and I still install it every once and awhile when I feel like it, i've probably installed that game about 50 times in the time i've had it, and now EA has the nerve to treat me like a pirate.

 

Since nobody will feel like shifting through that mess, basically what im saying is people should take Stardock's example, Sins of a Solar Empire sold well, played great, and didn't have any of this pirate protection garbage.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Rollercoaster tycoon 3 has Securom? Didn't notice. Although I have lost the CD for the game, but not the expansion packs so I can't re-install it anyway.

---------------------------------------------------- Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

 There are different versions of Securom and some are worse than others. On my machine, securom 6.0 games work fine but i believe version 7 don't verify correctly.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

"Civil disobedience only works when a civil right is threatened. Having a game without DRM is not a civil right.

E. Zachary Knight
http://www.editorialgames.com
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
MySpace Page: http://www.myspace.com/okceca
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1325674091"

Where are all my other comments about the ECA

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Your thinking the Etertainment SOFTWARE Association. I belong to the Entertainment CONSUMER Association. There is a difference.

Also, all your comments have been cleared although they are inaccurate.

E. Zachary Knight
http://www.editorialgames.com
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
MySpace Page: http://www.myspace.com/okceca
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1325674091

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

"Civil disobedience only works when a civil right is threatened. Having a game without DRM is not a civil right.

E. Zachary Knight
http://www.editorialgames.com
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
MySpace Page: http://www.myspace.com/okceca
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1325674091"

 

This guy is preaching from a company everyone lost faith in and not just that but wants to put every gamer in jail they just hired people to sue you as a gamer regardless if they have proof you pirated something or not. This guy is apart of a company that now is hiring people who believe they shouldn't have proof to sue you whether or not you stole something or not. ECA, you suck!

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

I believe you are confused. It is commonplace. The ECA is tne Entertainment Consumers Association, defending gamers, and parent to GamePolitics. You probably got that confused with the ESA, which is the Entertainment Software Association, that represents the software companies, killed E3, and generally been heading down the path of the RIAA with a lot of things.

"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

"I'm stel not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Yep, EA still sucks ass. Nothing new.

 

-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! For information on games and psychology, look up: Jonathan Freedman(2002)Block & Crain(2007) Just to name a few...

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

If we're serious about finding a solution to this, we need a list of protections we find acceptable.

Ideas?

I believe that individualized product keys and requiring a disc for use are acceptable.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

 I bought Sins of a Solar Empire instead of this. It has no DRM at all. That's my solution.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

That's actually a good idea and we need the ECA to get behind it.

I don't mind product keys, and I don't mind having to authenticate online. I refuse to buy a game that will limit the amount of computers I can play it on non concurrently.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Yeah, it should have been left at CD keys.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

I believe dropping the whole idea, and just accepting that some people will pirate the software, while most people will go out and buy the game if they like it works. My point of comparison would be with what the RIAA is doing, and what artists like Trent Reznor have proven about it all. If you treat your customers like criminals, then they will tend to become criminals. If you treat your customers fairly and respectfully, they will reciprocate the gesture.

"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

"I'm stel not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

"

Civil disobedience only works when a civil right is threatened. Having a game without DRM is not a civil right.

E. Zachary Knight
http://www.editorialgames.com
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
MySpace Page: http://www.myspace.com/okceca
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1325674091"

Hey guys, how bad as the ECA been hit, everyone leaving, no one supports the ECA, wonder why

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

You yougins, in the days of yore DRM used to be you had to literally read the entire instruction book and take a pop quiz and figure out complex questions EVERY play. Even Street Fighter wa setup that way

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

You're kidding, right? That was like 3rd or 4th generation DRMs. I also always disabled it in my copies of games. My first attemt resuted in me changing every single question in the pop quiz to be "Press a 1 and then Enter to continue.", and I made every answer be the number 1. If you didn't follow the directions, I had a follow-up question which was "That was not a 1, please try again. Press a 1 and then Enter to continue." I did that for the old game "The Legend of Kyrandia". Of course, I also did silly things like rewriting all of the text dialog in the game, and changed the credits to be more like the MST3K guys mocking the entire game. But I was in High School at the time, had a lot of free time, and was easily amused.

"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

"I'm stel not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

Publisher Bill of Rights

Publisher Bill of Rights- by EA

-We have the right to install instrusive software on your system without informing you(except in paragraph 657 in the EULA).

-We have the right to allow you only as many installs as we want.

-We have the right to provide bad customer support and make you waste money by calling us for more install limits. 

-We have the right to presume you are guilty of being a pirate.

-We have the right to f**k you as hard as we want for our own gains.

-We have the right to provide help pirates with our DRM.

 -We have the right to treat you in disdain.

 

Any I miss?

Re: Publisher Bill of Rights

-- We have the right to publish the same game year after year with 1 or 2 changes, and charge another 60 dollars for it, instead of fixing the games we already have.

Re: Publisher Bill of Rights

nice one.

Another one is

-We have the right to dumb down and make garbage whatever franchise we feel like treating like a whore(Sim City Societies).

Re: Publisher Bill of Rights

- We have the right to hold back release of any game planned for whatever reason we want to.

- We have the right to force our developers to completely revamp their entire game based on what our retailers say the consumers are buying at the moment. We have the extended right to make these decisions at any point in game development, regardless of the amount of work already completed.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

When my father was still alive, one of his favorite sayings was "every lock has a key, and all a lock does is keep the honest person out." DRMs are even more to the point -- every DRM can be cracked, for the software companies to think otherwise is foolishness. Further, all the DRMs do is keep the honest customers from playing the game, eventually eaving only the dishonest, and the pirate to contend with. Yes, some security is implemented well, but it is just a matter of time for someone to figure out how to get around it. All the companies pushing DRM are doing is alienating their customers, and attracting the people who enjoy the challenge of cracking the DRMs. Historically, up to now, and most likely on into the future, DRMs have exactly the opposite desired effect intended.

I can remember back in the day, when the DRM was a badly-formatted sector on a floppy disk, which was done by making the sector be written at a slower speed than the drive normally ran at, and the software would check/validate by reading that sector at the correct speed, in order to play the game. That was the trick used in the late 70's & 80's, which was easily overcome through people modifying their floppy drives to be able to correctly identify & write the bad sectors, eventually software developers dropped the concept entirely... for about 3 years, and then they started over again. Now, we're in a perpetual arms race, between software developer/DRM maker, and pirate/cracker. And the people who end up getting hurt in this process is the average, honest customer.

"I'm not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

"I'm stel not responcabel fer my comuter's spleling errnors." -- Xlorep DarkHelm

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

I have a question?  Do we have to pay EA to get more installs because i'm gonna upgrade my pc soon.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

no but  you do have to call them up on a phone which is not free phone call then yell at them for a hour or two maybe even a day or 3 then when you yell enough they give you one unlock install but guess what when there severs go down guess what the game cant play at all becuse it needs to connect to that shut down sever to install.

Thanks

Zaruka

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

thanks. I will just download spore from the interwebz if they give me too much trouble.  I already bought it, even though I kind of regret buying it. 

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

This DRM nonsense actually ENCOURAGES pirates and tempts legitimate gamers to turn to piracy in order to simply play the games they buy.  After all, when a player tries to load Spore too many times, the only people who are going to help are the pirates.  This DRM nonsense is making pirates look like Robin Hood, and it makes developers and publishers look like the Sherrif of Nottingham.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Does anyone know what e-mail adress to use to contact EA about something like this? I think I'd like to give them a piece of my mind...

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Yeah an automaited system is the best your going to get

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

if you have or make an EA.com account you can use the "contact us" button to send feedback/comments as one of the options IIRC.

now if anyone gets those comments... i don't know.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

I actually just sent an email to the Director of the spore project from the EA games home page, under contact us!  However, I was asking questions and asking for clarification as opposed to accusing, naming calling, etc.  I want to find out what their mentality was behind this method, when I can think of at least 4-5 other methods to combat piracy that are less invasive and what I view as more consumer friendly.  I'll be sure to post here if I get a response.

Re: Gamers Vent Spore DRM Frustrations via Amazon.com Reviews

Thanks, I just sent one explaining that the DRM is not having the desired effect, and is in fact causing more problems.

 
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james_fudgeSorry for the downtime today, folks.12/18/2014 - 5:54pm
 

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