Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian Censors

September 9, 2008 -

Until a few minutes ago, only Australian gamers assumed that they'd be getting an edited version of the hotly-anticipated Fallout 3. HoweverEdge Online has learned that everyone will be getting what we might call "the Australian cut."

GamePolitics readers will recall that specific references to morphine as an in-game power-up initially caused Australia to nix Fallout 3. After changes were made, the game was authorized for sale Down Under with an MA15+ rating, Australia's most restrictive.

The EO report quotes Bethesda's PR exec Pete Hines:

We want to make sure folks understand that the Australian version of Fallout 3 is identical to both the UK and North American versions in every way, on every platform.

 

An issue was raised concerning references to real world, proscribed drugs in the game, and we subsequently removed those references and replaced them with fictional names. To avoid confusion among people in different territories, we decided to make those substitutions in all versions of the game, in all territories.

 

I didn't want people continuing to assume the version in Australia was some altered version when it's not. There are no references to real world drugs in any version of Fallout 3.

Nothing like waiting until the last minute, eh? Fallout 3 ships next week.

GP: Thanks to Just Chris for the heads-up!


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Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Gallagher can araç kiralama say all he wants, but I strongly rent a car believe it's due to his crappy leadership and E3 being a joke. ESA's Board of Directors need to find a way to get out rent a car of this horrid contract with this Bush cronie before there's no one left on the Board.

Btw, I think Atari and Midway will drop out too, but mostly travesti because  these guys have done nothing ttnet vitamin or little and need to start saving costs.

 

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

seems that this thread is outdated, hence my comment is kinda outdate too.. oh well if u wana read... here you go:

All you guys have to remember how bad we have it downunder? i mean australia has got to be the worse established country to live in as a serious gamer. Our servers suck (whats that? we have a server? OMFG MIRACLE) our prices suck balls... i could go on, but i wont :P

its a shame that Bethesda caved in to our pathetic laws, personally i was willing and prepared to import like thousands of other gamers. Since ive gotten my PS3 ive been looking forward to a decent RPG.. and so since i heared wind of fallout 3 i was stoked, but yet really pissed off when i heared of the ban. Everyone has to see it from our perspective though, yes ok... the change was minor- a name change.. yes it was world wide, but the big story here is the poor rating system in australia. Games that shld be 18+ are passed off as MA15+ which isnt doing the rating's system any justice. The fact that a corp did a world wide change is bring this issuse to a new level and rather than ranting how about providing suggestions or assistance in the resolution of this arguement once and for all because personally i feel things are going to get worse before they get better.

 I for one like to enjoy playing the uncut version of any game so that i may fully embrace the games experience that that the creators intended and everytime i have to go to our over the top expensive stores which deliver a cut version just so that it can be sold in the first place makes me wana puke.

Fallout 3 out next week? total poppycock bs, they have to change all the programing/typing in guides/manuals blah blah etc etc before it can be shipped out to the WHOLE WORLD... all in a week yeah right.

Its seems that everyone not from australia is blaming us a whole, ie all of australia. But please remember the majority of informed gamers are by ur side, if want to point the finger at someone to make you feel better then send a email to michael atkinson /australian government in general.

Another key point EVERYONE has to remember is that.. (and its been a day or two since i looked) but australia doesnt get the game until 31st of Oct, everyone else gets it 28th. Ok... 3 days? not much i guess... its a shame we aussies are left behind again, how about the fact that we ppl downunder have to pay approx $34.00 more for the game? Its still cheaper(including frieght) to import the US version from Play- Asia , atleast now we dont have to worrie about customs

Im not 100% sure... but im 95% sure that importing RC games into australia is illegal, its also illegal to own a copy of RC games/sell and hire .. with a max penality(fine) of $275,000

 

Ok sorry guys, got a lil of topic..

happy posting

 

 ~  X-T3NAC1TY-X

 

 edit:

if you want to see were it all began use the link below to see the orignal document from OFLC, looks authentic enough.

http://www.australiangamer.com/news/1161_fallout_3_-_oflc_documents.html

 

 hmmm seems this thread is a bit outdated... shld of read the dates before posting

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DOWN WITH MICHAEL ATKINSON, say yes to R18+ game ratings

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Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

 I thought only the US forced their values down everyones throats?  I guess they've got some competition.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Thanks Australia, you pretty much just opened the doors up for the censors in the States, no, scratch that, for the censors all around the world to pull crap like this.

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Personally I don't have a big issue with this. In fact I always liked the fake names used in the old Fallout games that gave it a great 60's feel. Who didn't like Nuke-Cola! In any case so instead of morphine maybe they call it Zap-Pain pills. Not a functional change in any way.

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Technically, having exactly 1 version of the game to support makes their job easier as they don't have to make seperate patches for each version. Still an odd decision.

Who knows, maybe the new name is so awesome NA and EU users would have been jealous....

GHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!

No not spam, that is the LAMEST decision I've ever read.  I cordially invite all australian censors to go fornicate themselves in the ear.

Bethesda has to watch, for inflicting Oz's BS morality on the rest of us.

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Ok, it's just a name change so it's not that big of a deal.  It doesn't affect gameplay and no content has been removed.

However I am very uncomfortable with the idea that all versions of a game are changed because the ratings board in one country had issues with the product.  Sure this is a minor, practically irelevent change, but it sets a precedent that could lead to deeper changes in other titles later on.

Example: In Germany, you are not allowed to have any references to the Swastika or other Nazi-related imagery.  As a result games like Call of Duty edit out said imagery in the German version of their games.  Would you be ok with the idea of Infinity Ward removing Nazi-related imagery in ALL versions of a Call of Duty simply because Germany has a problem with it? 

 

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It seems to be more of a logistics issue with localizing the games. Because then you have a "German-friendly" version and the developers would say "Great, another version to keep track of". I don't like this approach, though, because a single version to cover all audiences would be the lowest common denominator.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

If you can explain how a "minor, practically irelevent change" sets a precedent fpr a large relevant change, i'll give you a cookie.

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Irelevent change in terms of the overall gaming experience.  When it comes to editing content though, I wouldn't consider it irelevent.  Hope that clears that up.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

No content has been editing. It has been renamed, and in such a way it actually improves the game.

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I'm in the, "big deal," camp; I don't think this is anything to get worked up over. But changing things is IS, "editing." Whether it's removing something completely, fixing it for grammar and spelling, or altering it for accessibility or acceptability, it's all editing.

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Actually, content has been edited.  A name change is still altering content, granted a very minor one.  Does it change the overall experience?  No.  Nonetheless I am not comfortable with the idea that a game is changed on all versions just to appease the ratings board of a single country, no matter how minor the change may be.  Not only does it set a precedent but it gives an example that anti-gaming groups and individuals can cite when making arguments to get a game banned/edited.

And whether or not it improves the game is subjective, though we won't be able to form any opinions on the fact since it's already be edited...

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I don't care what they did. Censorship pisses me off in EVERY form.

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Could be worse I suppose... still the stupidity behind the name changes is pretty mindblowing. I suspect that most people know morphine is a painkiller, it's mentioned in the movies and TV often enough. Which begs the question, if other forms of media are free to make reference to the drug, why not gaming too? (Especially when drug use, in the Fallout series, comes with consequences often not shown on TV etc.)

Gift.

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This has probably been said, but I frankly don't care as long as the chem system is in tact (with the whole adding or reducing stats and the addiction/withdrawl). Furthermore I think it's very un-Fallout to use real world drugs/names in the first place. This whole incident might have been a great thing.

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Personally, I don't have much of an issue with this.  Since when have the Fallout games used the names of real drugs anyway?  Changing it from "morphine" to some fictitous reasonable facsimile is in keeping with the tradition of this fine game series.

On a personal note, I'm also kind of glad they're not calling it morphine as it carries some negative associations for me, as someone I love and care about very much was prescribed morphine after she broke her back.  Fortunately she's not paralyzed and I understand she's pretty much recovered, but it breaks my heart to think she may have to be on that shit for the rest of her life.

Seriously, some of you people really need to get a sense of perspective, as I'm starting to get really fucking annoyed with how you percieve the least little thing to be an attack on your civil liberties.  DRM in Spore?  "ZOMFG!!!1!!  Those fucking EA bastards!!!  Now I am never buying this game!  You can only install it three times!!!"  Newsflash: you can install, uninstall and reinstall any SecuROM game (including BioShock and Warhammer 40K: DoW) as often as you like, as long as it's on the same computer!  I don't know about the rest of you, but I play my games on only one computer, and if someone wants me to install my copy on theirs, I'd sooner tell them to get their own damn copy.

Now this happens, and half of you are standing up and screaming "CENSORSHIP!!!"  Please.  They're just changing the name of one thing that in the big scheme of things doesn't affect the gameplay at all.  The rest of the game as far as we know is going to be the bloody, profane and violent Fallout we've all come to know and love and it won't affect the game one whit.

I don't know.  Maybe we're so used to having games being picked-on by the likes of JT that some of us have developed a kind of siege mentality, which is kind of understandable.  But sometimes when I see people getting so upset over this kind of stuff, I have to wonder if JT's arguments that us gamers suffer from a reality disconnect may have some merit.  Yeah I know, I've heard all the arguments: "It's the principle of the thing!" or "Give them an inch, they'll take a mile!"  But as someone who's been around for a while, I can tell you that something like this is not the end of the world.  But if you're going to bitch and moan, throw a temper tantrum and vow you'll never buy the game now because of this, well, I'll have lost all respect for you.  And that's a shame because I really like some of you guys.

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Some foreign government tells me I can't read/hear a particular word?  Yeah, you fucking bet I have a problem with that.  People like you are spineless cowards and one of the primary reasons that the world is in such a miserable state. Sure, the change is minor, but it's a WORLD WIDE CHANGE - all because someone in some other country is too inbred for their own good.  How can you NOT have a problem with that?  It's the principle of the thing.  Honestly you people today are so incredibly stupid.

As for the DRM, if you can't figure out why that's bad, then you might as well just sell your computer, you're clearly not intelligent enough to own one.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

The issue with the limited installs is that if something hits the fan, you don't get that install back. OOps, your HD failed! Gotta reinstall from scratch. What's this? You're installing on a different computer? Oh, nope. Don't get your earlier install back.

Yeah. Thanks for the bit of trust there publisher. End result? That install limitation gets cracked before the game's out for a week. Two on the outside.

As for you not being persuaded by the arguements, well. Fair enough. But the basic arguement holds that the government is imposing what is an excessive imposition on free speech, and doubly so because it ends up affecting other countries.  I've already decided I won't be buying Spore because of their copy protection, made the same decision for Mass Effect, and i'm sorely tempted to do the same for Fallout 3.

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*bows in honor*

I agree with you.  Why the moaning and groaning over a word change?  I wonder what would happen if They removed a tin can off the side of the road in game.  Man, the outcry that would come about.

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 Looks like i dont need buy fallout 3 after all...

Great work bethesda, you just ruined only game i was waiting this year.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Seriously?  The change of real drug names to fake drug names is stopping you from buying it now?  Nothing else changed.  You must not have wanted it anyway,

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

I'm pretty sure Fallout doesn't ship next week.

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Somebody answer why it says it ships next week??

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Oh FFS the game was given an uncensored 18 rating here in the UK.... and they make THESE changes, god I hate you Aussie dragons!

When Life gives you lemons, you find a new god.

When Life gives you lemons, you find a new god.

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[Sorry for the repost - readable version of the above imposing wall of text...]

Congratulations, now the whole world can hate our draconian censorship regime just as much as we do.

Amazingly enough, it all comes down to one man: Michael Atkinson, the Attorney General of South Australia. See, in Australia, the classification system (aka censorship laws) are agreed upon by all six states. States can add their own internal restrictions if they want, but the national classification system can only be changed if all seven state and federal censorship ministers (the AG in most cases) agree unanimously.

Australia does not have a restricted 18+ adults-only rating for games, because Michael f--king Atkinson personally blocked it. Several times every other minister has been in favour of being sensible and adding a rating for adults, and Atkinson has been the sole dissenting voice. If we had an R18+ rating for games, Fallout 3 would almost certainly have been classified as such and no edits would have been necessary. Had no edits been made for us, it is unlikely that Bethesda would have edited all worldwide versions of the game.

So yeah, one bloody-minded and logic-impervious individual's personal opinion continues to restrict the freedom of Australia's adult gamers. Sure games get banned and/or edited, but even worse games that SHOULD be 18+ - like GTA4, God of War, Condemned, and countless others - squeeze into the MA15+ rating, which means anyone over 15 can legally buy and play them, and people under 15 can legally play them of someone over 15 makes the purchase for them.

(American readers, you may recognise this as the same thing that happened to the R rating for film when everyone refused to use the NC-17 - R has become meaningless and stronger and stronger content gets shoehorned into the more marketable bracket.)

Sorry for the epic rant, but this pisses me off.

...and yes, I know it's a cosmetic change and will have no real effect on gameplay, but the fact remains that the change should never have been required in the first place.

James "DexX" Dominguez

Pissed-off Aussie gamer

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Hey DexX, what brought you away from Screen Play?

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

I'm a wannabe games journo - I read all the big gaming blogs.  :)

I even applied for the Kotaku AU job, though I don't like my chances of getting it.  Fingers crossed, though.

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Can I shake your hand?

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That'll teach me not to look at the preview... Sorry for the lack of line breaks, everyone.

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Congratulations, now the whole world can hate our draconian censorship regime just as much as we do. Amazingly enough, it all comes down to one man: Michael Atkinson, the Attorney General of South Australia. See, in Australia, the classification system (aka censorship laws) are agreed upon by all six states. States can add their own internal restrictions if they want, but the national classification system can only be changed if all seven state and federal censorship ministers (the AG in most cases) agree unanimously. Australia does not have a restricted 18+ adults-only rating for games, because Michael f--king Atkinson personally blocked it. Several times every other minister has been in favour of being sensible and adding a rating for adults, and Atkinson has been the sole dissenting voice. If we had an R18+ rating for games, Fallout 3 would almost certainly have been classified as such and no edits would have been necessary. Had no edits been made for us, it is unlikely that Bethesda would have edited all worldwide versions of the game. So yeah, one bloody-minded and logic-impervious individual's personal opinion continues to restrict the freedom of Australia's adult gamers. Sure games get banned and/or edited, but even worse games that SHOULD be 18+ - like GTA4, God of War, Condemned, and countless others - squeeze into the MA15+ rating, which means anyone over 15 can legally buy and play them, and people under 15 can legally play them of someone over 15 makes the purchase for them. (American readers, you will recognise this as the same thing that happened to the R rating for film when everyone refused to use the NC-17 - R has become meaningless and stronger and stronger content gets shoehorned into the more marketable bracket.) Sorry for the epic rant, but this pisses me off. ...and yes, I know it's a cosmetic change and will have no real effect on gameplay, but the fact remains that the change should never have been required in the first place. James "DexX" Dominguez Pissed-off Aussie gamer

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Who was the idiot who decided that any one state AG could pull veto over national-level decisions? I've heard of some fucked up politics, but seriously, you guys take the cake. Perhaps it's time to start taking after particular, interesting groups spread throughout the American midwest, or go the full nine yards and throw a revolution.



Chris 'coldacid' Charabaruk <coldacid.net>
IGDA Indie SIG Coordinator, Programmer, Designer

 
Chris 'coldacid' Charabaruk <coldacid.net>
IGDA Indie SIG Coordinator, Programmer, Designer

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W00t! I'm famous!...er.

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HOLY CRAP IT'S JustChris!!!1!

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

Hey I can wait till they edit guns out and put in walkie talkies to go after the mutants!

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Changing a name is fine by me.  Now getting rid of some content, that would be another story.

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who cares.... Fallout 3 is still gonna be epic.  They just changed the name of a few drugs.

I could not care less about the name of drugs being changed.

The real news is of Ensemble closing down.  AOE 2 was my favourite game for so many years. 

Ensemble, rest in peace.

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I got cranky reading this until I read the end.

The ONLY difference is that they changed the names of the drugs.

So there's really nothing to complain about here, folks. Honestly, can you respect yourself in the morning after shouting "I DEMAND MORPHINE!!!!" in response to this?

Jim Jenkins

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I DEMAND MORPHINE!

Lets see how I feel tomorrow morning

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Kind of a bad time, seeing as tomorrow is September 11.

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Honestly, can you respect yourself in the morning after shouting "I DEMAND MORPHINE!!!!" in response to this?

Quite easily as what I'm actually shouting is "I demand that the speech I choose to expose myself to not be censored due to some halfwit in another country that wouldn't know what context or adult responsiblity was if his IMMORTAL SOUL escaping ETERNAL DAMNATION depended on it!!!!!"

-Gray17

-Gray17

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I demand the opportunity to play Fallout 3 as the developers would have intended it instead of having to play the version the OFLC insist is more appropriate for me.

Yes, I can respect myself.  I'd rather start raising a fuss now instead of waiting until something I care about gets edited or censored.

 

Andrew Eisen

GODDAMNIT BETHESDA!!!!!!!!!

YOU ASSHOLES!!! GREAT! REAL F_CKING GREAT!!! SON OF A $##%**!!!!

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Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: GODDAMNIT BETHESDA!!!!!!!!!

Holy shit, Grizzam, cool off!

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I don't live in a 3rd World Country with little or no freedom of speech, why is it to make the Australians feel their SPECIAL, we have to all get what they are getting because their goverment wants to restrict everything they see and hear? Seeing Germany still is heavily censored so now if they want to restrict and take out things like blood and speech we must make them feel special too?

Is it true Australians are getting the Your Special Doll for free?

Yes my brothers and sisters now you shall all share the glory of a third world countries censorship!

Kazakhstan greatest country in the world.
All other countries are run by little girls.
Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium.
Other countries have inferior potassium.

Kazakhstan home of Tinshein swimming pool.
It’s length thirty meter and width six meter.
Filtration system a marvel to behold.
It remove 80 percent of human solid waste.

Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place.
From Plains of Tarashek to Northern fence of Jewtown.
Kazakhstan friend of all except Uzbekistan.
They very nosey people with bone in their brain.

Kazakhstan industry best in world.
We invented toffee and trouser belt.
Kazakhstan’s prostitutes cleanest in the region.
Except of course for Turkmenistan’s.

Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place.
From Plains of Tarashek to Norther fence of Jewtown.

Come grasp the mighty [censored] of our leader.
From junction with the [censored] to tip of its face!

HEY WAIT! I got a good idea, how bout we replace the morphine packs to happy packs from Australia????? Or better yet, like out great leader in the Democratic Party Steven Speiburg did we change all the guns and weapons to walkie talkies??? Yes can you see it now, mutants fighting with walkie talkies!

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This is actually a brilliant business decision. While I agree that kowtowing to my government's absolutely ridiculous desire for censorship of a single medium is unidealic and certainly so for bringing that change to the entire world - I can guarantee you that now people will buy this game here.

I had absolutely planned to pirate it or at the very least get it through Play-Asia without a doubt as did all my friends. Now I can hop on down to GAMETRADERS ROBINA and pick up the over the top deluxe edition without having to wonder "what else is missing" like I did with GTA4. So while it sucks for you guys on the rest of the planet I guess you can take solace in the fact that a lot of Australians are kind of sort of maybe almost stoked that we at least get to play the same version as the rest of the crime-ridden world our elected officials want to protect us from...

 

Very disturbing.  I hope this does not become a trend.

What's even more disturbing is the fact that a SINGLE attorney general is pretty much the cause of this... This is definetly going to go to his head and he is definetly going to keep pushing instead of realizing what an absolute douche` he is. Next thing you know tradies will have to cut sheet metal with round-tipped safety scissors...

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"So while it sucks for you guys on the rest of the planet I guess you can take solace in the fact that a lot of Australians are kind of sort of maybe almost stoked that we at least get to play the same version as the rest of the crime-ridden world our elected officials want to protect us from..."

Actually, it sucks for everyone.  Now, no one has the opportunity to play the game as the developers intended.

 

Andrew Eisen

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Oh I agree it sucks for everyone - but it just sucks a little less for us now that's all. We're all on a level sucking plain at this point with equivalent sucking for all parties...

Re: Fallout 3 to Ship Worldwide with Cuts Made for Australian

How does it suck less for you?  The only thing that's different is now you can't obtain an unedited copy of Fallout 3.

 

Andrew Eisen

 
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SleakerEither people don't understand that what the picture is saying is true, or the picture was created out of a misunderstanding of what sexism is.09/01/2014 - 3:52pm
Sleaker@AE ok yah that's where the kind of confusion I'm getting. Your tweet can be taken to mean two different things.09/01/2014 - 3:51pm
Andrew EisenSleaker - No. No, not even remotely. The pic attached to my tweet was not made by me; it's not a statement I'm making. It's an illustration of the complete misunderstanding of the issue my tweet is referring to.09/01/2014 - 3:13pm
Papa MidnightIn other news, Netflix states why it paid Comcast: http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/29/technology/netflix-comcast/index.html?hpt=hp_t209/01/2014 - 3:10pm
Papa MidnightAndrew Eisen: Sites like Tumblr make things seem much bigger than they are. A vocal extreme minority start complaining and things go as they do.09/01/2014 - 3:09pm
 

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