Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

September 9, 2008 -

Another in an irregular - but all too frequent - series:

This morning comes word that 20-year-old Army PFC Tan Quoc Ngo was killed in an August 27th ambush in Afghanistan.

As reported by a lengthy obituary on Oregon Live, Ngo's parents were refugees from Vietnam. Oregon Gov. Ted Kulongoski was among those who attended the young man's funeral on Friday. From the news coverage:

He liked nothing better than playing pickup basketball or football, or playing cards with friends in his Beaverton neighborhood... He also liked video games, including Grand Theft Auto and Halo...

GP: Why do we do this? The gamer generation is much maligned these days. With so many gamers currently serving in U.S. military forces around the world, GamePolitics makes it a point to honor those who have made the ultimate sacrifice.

Thanks to: Reader Kojiro for the link.


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Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

"...you are nothing but a blight on mankind."

Castlevania: The Dracula X Chronicles FTW!

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Jack,

Someone above this said that if you were indeed redeemed and saved in Christ then it got erased. Both myself and "Locnil" go to church and we are shocked, appalled, you name it, we felt it when these incidents happened. We're both gamers, so is T.O.S. We all are in pain when this shit happens, and it's people like you that really piss us off.

Shadow Darkman and "Locnil Fignirf" - Sane Human Beings, And You Are Not.

P.S. If you are indeed human, then we are all above humanity, but just don't realize it. -SD and "LF"

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Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

How can we be sure it's really him? I thought he just ignores everyone's posts proving him wrong (which is to say, within minutes of him hitting 'submit' on his latest spam filing)

-- "Jack and listen are two words that don't go together...just like Jack and sanity, Jack and truth, Jack and proof, Jack and win..." -- sortableturnip | http://www.orangeloungeradio.com/

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Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Thompson, if you've been so right all this time then why haven't i heard about another school shooting in months?

How come I can't even watch CSI without feeling a little sick at watchign the autopsy parts?

Hell, why can't I handle raw beef without feeling a little sick?

According to you I should show no remorse when I step on my cat's foot, yet I do every single time and apologize to the little guy.

Also ,you refuse to name your source when you claim Cho played Counter Streek obsessively, not to mention, if he did in high school, why did it take years for hjim to commit a violent act?

Finally ,being a "Christian" DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU DO!!! IF YOU WERE SAVED, GUESS WHAT, YOU ERASED IT!!!!

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

"Thompson, if you've been so right all this time then why haven't i heard about another school shooting in months?"

Because Doom 4 hasn't come out yet

"How come I can't even watch CSI without feeling a little sick at watchign the autopsy parts?"

Becaue you haven't played enough Trauma Center

"Hell, why can't I handle raw beef without feeling a little sick?"

Because you don't have "cookin' with mama"

"According to you I should show no remorse when I step on my cat's foot, yet I do every single time and apologize to the little guy."

Play more nintendogs, then we'll see who has remorse!

"Also ,you refuse to name your source when you claim Cho played Counter Streek obsessively, not to mention, if he did in high school, why did it take years for hjim to commit a violent act?"

His source is... is... ah hell that's not important. Little things like facts, logic, and ETHICS just tend to get in the way

"Finally ,being a "Christian" DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU DO!!! IF YOU WERE SAVED, GUESS WHAT, YOU ERASED IT!!!!"

Sure it does! I belive it is somewhere in Leviticus...or was that the book of Paul.... maybe Simon... theodore maybe?

 

Sarcasm aside, this just goes to show how terrible a lawyer JT was even in his "prime". there is no logic at all to his arguments, and they are filled with generalizations, and bastardizations of logic that just make it too difficult to take him seriously. After yesterday, I'm finding it more and more difficult to think of his name without chuckling, feeling simultaneous pitty for his family, and then chuckling at him again.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Just to clarify, the quote was from the Washington Post online:

Several Korean youths who knew Cho Seung Hui from his high school days said he was a fan of violent video games, particularly Counterstrike, a hugely popular online game, in which players join terrorism or counterterrorism groups and try to shoot each other...

It was subsequently removed as its hardly newsworthy that he played this game years before the incident being that Cho was a senior. More frequently, during his college years, it appears he used his computer almost exclusively for writing his disturbed fantasies and rantings.

The phrase "obsessively played" should be noted as an editorial comment inserted by Mr. Thompson and not supported by the article or any facts ascertained in a rudimentary Internet search. Joystiq.com spoke with the Washington Post staff writer, David Cho, regarding that snippet removed from the story:

Cho said the information was based on talks with some high school acquaintances of Hui's who occasionally saw him playing at an cyber cafe during his high school days.

This does not appear to be a description that warrants the inflammatory term "obsessively played", nor is it very reliable point coming from admitted "acquaintances" who "occasionally" saw Cho Seung Hui playing in a public space. Eyewitness testimony, particularly years after the fact, is considered pretty unreliable.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

And yet we have here a, being ,relying solely on that.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

First off, Hell is capitalized, as it's a real place.

You just can't make this stuff up.

And Jack - you do realize, that V-Tech is not a high school, do you?

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Hell is a town in Michigan

岩「…Ace beats Jack」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Why is this guy a hero?  Getting killed doesn't make a person a hero, nor does getting killed in action as a soldier.  This man's death is tragic, not heroic.  The more we misuse words like 'hero' to glorify the stupidity that is war, the more people will die needlessly for our government's stupidity.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

While I don't believe that what the soldiers are doing is either defending their country nor even particularly necessary, I feel that anyone who believes in something enough to actually go out and place themselves in harms way in order to defend that belief, is hero to me.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

This man was a hero, just the fact that he had the cojones to defend what this country stands for, no matter how absurd it may seem to people like you, the fact that he fought considering he was doing it so that people like us can do stuff like this makes him a hero

Grow some patriotism

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

PFC Tan Quoc Ngo chose to defend his country, and that is commendable. If you want to protest the war, those who fight it are the wrong targets. Take it to those who have them fight.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Frankly, anyone who opts to take up arms and defend his or her country is a hero.  It is a tragedy that he's dead, but it was his decision to put his life on the line.

That's far better than anonymous internet trolls.

 

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

yes anyone who take up arms to defend their country, just like how the Iraqis who took up arms to defend their country from the American Invasion. They must be heros as well

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Amen brother!

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Why is he a hero?? Because he was out there fighting for his country that is why he was a hero. Not everyone can get up in the morning and decide to up and defend their country, like the war or not we have men and women over there fighting for us and I think we should all honor them.

Like it or not America acted to being attacked, and I for one would rather take the fight to them than sit back and wait for them to plan another one against us. God bless the troops, and god rest the soul of this solider.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

That same argument can be said for those we are fighting against. They are fighitng for their country from being attacked by Americans

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

It is great for GP to honor the names of people who play Videogames who also give their life to serve their country. Not only they battle simulated wars in Videogames and have a good time, but they also battle real wars in real life and also witness the full horror first hand. They die, and it is Game Over with no continues... A sad fact of life that is. Also the less said about JT, the better.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

My deepest respects to this hero and his family, and may his memory be kept with honor

 

 

Jack Thompson, go to hell

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

You lived with honor and I only hope that your memory will remain with honor. My best wishes for your family.

E. Zachary Knight
http://www.editorialgames.com
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
MySpace Page: http://www.myspace.com/okceca
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1325674091

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Amen.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

The use by this site of this hero's death to promote the sale of adult video games to kids is a new low that eclipses in its depravity what I am even accused of doing.   I am trying to stop school and other massacres.  Dennis McCauley is attempting to trivialize this man's death and in doing so promote ECA's sick and illegal agenda.  Shameful.  Jack Thompson

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

I hate you this much. You really are one sad, sick fuck.

 

Rest in peace soldier.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

What day is the fl. supreme court supposed to give you the boot?

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Nothing could eclipse the depravity that you are accused of doing.

Sortableturnip's Law: As an online discussion of video game violence grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jack Thompson approaches 1

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Every article about a soldier that died has to be ruined by you. It's quite hypocritical of you since you push you agenda all the time, on the most watch television show today, repeatedly.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Hey douchebag, why is it okay for you to mention that someone played video games if they've done something wrong but not okay to mention that a person considered a hero played video games? In fact, as we've seen with you many times, you'll claim a video game connection despite people having not been gamers (i.e. Seung-Hui Cho). It's always a one way street with you, you're an asshole.

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I've never seen you serving your country like he man did. You're full of shit Jack. Fuck off.

@Dennis

I'm aware that you probably don't want to make more of these posts, but what about the Brits who fell fighting alongside the Yanks? We lose men and gamers too.

~You Could Be Mine, But You're Way Out Of Line..~

~You Could Be Mine, But You're Way Out Of Line..~

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

You know, I  would have no objection to that as long as I can verify that they were gamers. Of course, most 20-year-old young men are, but there has to be some kind of documentation. I have written about British soldiers and gaming in the past, but I don't believe in terms of a memorial.

I normally get these from automated google news searches, but this one was sent in by a reader.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Alright, if I find something, i'll send it to you.

~You Could Be Mine, But You're Way Out Of Line..~

~You Could Be Mine, But You're Way Out Of Line..~

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Much appreciated if you would...

 

 

 

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Dennis usually reports on these after being directed to them by a reader. Send him something and I am sure he will print it.

E. Zachary Knight
http://www.editorialgames.com
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
MySpace Page: http://www.myspace.com/okceca
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1325674091

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

After that post JT, you had better hope that you NEVER meet this soldier's family.

No jury would convict them for what they would do to you, sir.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Also, I dare you, I FUCKING DARE YOU to go to this man's family and tell them what you just said  here.

Hell, I dare you to say it to a bunch of young soldiers (in fact some might post here) Of course you won't, hypocrite, hiding behind the internet.

All you are is Fred Phelps but with a blind hatred of gamers instead of homosexuals.

Johnny Bruce Thompson, attention whore...

As a casual gamer who is glad to be employed as a civilian in the USCG helping soldiers, your comment is a disservice to officers and enlisted personnel who enjoy the GTA series as a form of mainstream entertainment.

Go back to your piss-poor attempts at massacre chasing on a medium who accepts you like Faux News, since your legal career is a debacle.

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Jack,

Your sick comment here was horribly predictable.  I don't recall Dennis celebrating on the grave of Steve Chaykin or any of the massacres you hear about on TV and rallly to an anti-video game cause before the corpses are even cold.  How does it feel, Jack, knowing that if you died in a fire tomorrow that not only would you not be remembered, that probably only a scant handful of people would actually give a damn?

The soldiers dying over in Afghanistan, avid video game players or otherwise, are doing something far more honorable than you have ever done in your cretinous, miserable life.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Mr. Thompson,

 

You have now sunk to a new low.

 

Not much time left. Just remember "Would you like fries with that", and you'll be fine.

 

 

The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. ~ Benjamin Franklin

Yes, I am a liberal. I also believe in a strong military, less government, and the right to bear arms. 

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Dear Mr. Thompson.

We're not worshipping his gaming. We're not bummed because there's one less person to play online against. Stop saying that's what we're doing and use your eyes to read things other than 'GTA' 'Video games' 'violence' and your own damn name.

He's trying to TRIVIALIZE it? Sir, if he didn't post this here, i wouldn't have even known that this hero even existed to honor his memory in the first place, you shallow-minded prick. How in God's name is THAT trivial?

David "DavCube" Gagnon, Sane Human Being, and You're NOT.

PS:

Literacy: 50,000
Thompson: GOOSE EGG

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

If only this tragedy had happened to someone other than the soldier... someone in particular...


Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Dear Jack,

You aren't trying to stop a god damned thing except your impending disbarment. Enjoy forced retirement, asshole.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

The use of this hero's grave as a toilet is yet another new low that shares the depravity of Jack Thompson's daily activities. He is trying to let mass murderers and child abusers run free while lying through his anus about game developers being the prime cause of such atrocities. Thompson is trivializing this man's death and in doing so promotes his inbred fascist luddite death cult's sick and illegal agenda. Shameful.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Oh he's done thise before, on EVERY article honoring every soldier who lsot their life and just happened to be a game.

I'm willing to bet that if a teen pulled Thompson out of danger of beign run over by an SUV, he'd do his damn hardest to have the "gamer nerd" arrested for assault.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

Unfortunately those who truly deserve it never get theirs, so I don't see that happening. (The Bar might help us out soon, though.)

Besides, with his behavior isn't that why most gamer nerds would push him into the path of said oncoming SUV? (Hypothetically speaking, obviously...)

-- "Jack and listen are two words that don't go together...just like Jack and sanity, Jack and truth, Jack and proof, Jack and win..." -- sortableturnip | http://www.orangeloungeradio.com/

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Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

We aren't the ones who trivialize child abuse and the victims of masacres such as V-tech and Columbine to further our agenda.

We are trying to honor the memory of a soldier who died risking his life to better others. We are not holding murderers and pshychos up as victims as you do.

Why don't you stop raping the membories of the deceased for your own agenda?

E. Zachary Knight
http://www.editorialgames.com
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
MySpace Page: http://www.myspace.com/okceca
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1325674091

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

If you are trying to prevent school and other killings then why do you overlook so blatant causes of these killings in lieu of something that promotes your agenda?  Like Cho's mental illness or Cody Posey being sexually assaulted.  Why do you support video legislation of countries like Thailand whose major crime problems come from the sexual slavery of children and not video games?

If you wanted to try and prevent school shootings as you say you would make an attempt to focus on ALL of the factors.  But no, instead you only clamp onto one pitiful point which you have  yet to be able to prove.  You were gloating over the corpses of the dead in VT before the name of the killer was even known.  The use of those still warm victims to support your sick, anti-constitutional agenda is beyond anything you have ever claimed Dennis to do.

Now go fly to Thailand you sick fuck.  Don't worry, the kids there are too busy being raped to view the supposed, and yet unproven by you, "pornographic video game material."

Asshole.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

He'd likely endorse and partake in that activity, giving his past actions of trying to get a sexual abuser acquited and trying to help said abuser score some cash.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

We weren't the ones on TV not even a day after the Vtech shooting declaring the shooter was a video game player.

The shooter wasn't even identified yet. What does this say about you, Mr I-happily-piss-on-people's-graves-because-it-makes-me-feel-superior.

Enjoy purgatory. Not even Hell will take you.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

"Enjoy purgatory. Not even Hell will take you."

After careful observation I have concluded that the irony in the above quote to be the source of this comment's bulging supply of LEGENDARY Win. It is ironic because the Catholic Church recently abolished the idea of Purgatory. As a result, the above comment is LEGENDARY Win.

Congratulations, Kurisu. I find your lack of Fail intriguing. There is only Win.

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Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

What is truly shameful, sir, is how you use the sacrifice of a heroic soldier to demonstrate your disdain and perceived superiority.

Think on this, sir.

Re: Soldier, GTA Player Makes Ultimate Sacrifice in Afghanistan

ANother person giving his life to protect the freedoms many take for granted, and some are trying to have removed

 

And before the day is out a lawyer who is out to have those freedoms removed will piss on this man's grave.

 

It's a sad world we live in, where one will fight and die to protect a freedom while some suit who has never touched a firearm will happily remove that freedom in the name of "safety"

 
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