NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

October 14, 2008 -

GTA knockoff Saints Row 2 launches today, and a spokesman for the NYPD has criticized THQ's new crime game for its graphic depictions of virtual violence against police officers.

As reported by the New York Daily News:

A blood-soaked new video game boasts enough violence, guns and gratuitous sex to make Grand Theft Auto seem as tame as Pac-Man - and it has cops hopping mad.

The over-the-top Saints Row 2 encourages players to butcher cops with chain saws, smoke drugs, annihilate rival gangsters and run prostitution rings... Many in law enforcement and politics don't find any of it remotely entertaining.

Patrick Lynch, who heads the NYPD union, told the Daily News:

These horrible and violent video games desensitize young people to violence while encouraging depravity, immorality while glorifying criminal behavior.

The newspaper also has a quote from our old pal Jack Thompson:

Jack Thompson, a Florida lawyer and longtime critic of violent video games, called Saints Row 2 a "Grand Theft Auto ripoff."

"As is true with pornography, as is true with violence, the subsequent products tend to push the envelope even more," he said.


An unnamed THQ spokesman defended SR2:

Saints Row 2 is not a gang simulation game. It's a tongue-in-cheek game.
 

Meanwhile, the Daily News does acknowledge some of the satirical elements in the game:

Despite the outrage, some of the scenarios depicted in the game seem hilariously over the top. Players can commit insurance fraud by faking injuries, spraying the contents of a septic tank to bring down property values or appearing on a "Cops"-like reality TV show.

If things get boring, competitors can just strip and run around naked.

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Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

@Everyone asking about "feeding the troll"

It's how he works. We have to feed him or he'll get worse.

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Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Jack, if you were the video game industries' "worst nightmare" than how is it that right now, at this very moment, I am able to legally play GTAIV on my Playstation 3? Riddle me that asshole. Oh, and the fact that you think any of have any reason to feel inferior to the likes of you is just delicious. Yeah, I should feel disgraced that I'm not a soon to be disbarred, narcisistic hack of an attorney with a god-complex. Riiighht.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

 Look Jack, get a life. We heard you talking for years and years about the same topics and nothing, I repeat (I'll use CAPITALS so you can't miss it) NOTHING HAS CHANGED! You have to realize that you're biting off more than you can chew. I'm a christian, but I have no aversion to any type of virtual violence. Why not concentrate on REAL violence? Why not be a REAL lawyer for your remaining days and actually bring well deserved justice to people. Oh wait a minute, you're just a troll. A silly, senile, sociopathic, media attention seeking whore with nothing better to do. There are other evils in the world besides videogames. Seriously, try to do something worthwhile. Actually do a good thing, donate to a charity or something. Do something that actually garners something happy and good. Conformity is gone, the 50's are gone, your bar liscence will be gone, so by god, do something else. Don't waste our time.

 

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

OK...Thats it, Im gonna buy saints row 2, Im gonna get for christmas,Go home, Pop it in my 360 and play the night away.

Magic Taco

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Wow so jacky boy still posts here from time to time..meh i figured people would make a bit deal of saints row 2 god it was bound to happen anyways...oh well i'm gonna be buying the game regardless so it will be entertaing for me..duffy is out

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

A blood-soaked new video game boasts enough violence, guns and gratuitous sex to make Grand Theft Auto seem as tame as Pac-Man - and it has cops hopping mad.

Whenever I hear these comments I just cringe, because it always shows that the content aims at the lowest common denominator. The comments seem to be written by children and that is usually who they aim those particular comments at because they want them to believe that there is something more extreme. Regardless the content has been described as 'over-the-top' and quite far removed from realism. Although the creators are loving this, because it helps to prevent the game being cast off as a GTA rip-off (which it is).

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

I'm sure that the devloper and THQ know that its a GTA rip off, but honestly, I don't think they care.  Heh, besides, what they're more focused on is all the free publicty that Jack and the NYPD Officer here are providing.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

"It wasn't a site error.  It was intentional.  You don't know what I know."

Please supply proof. You can say it was intentional untill the sky turns purple, but it dosn't make it true untill you prove it so. 

Oh no! They are biting him... and stealing his pants!

Oh no! They are biting him... and stealing his pants!

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

 You know he'll never provide proof.  Jack Thompson doesn't deal in "facts".  He only deals in "claims".  When you ask him for such things as "evidence" or "proof", he runs and hides.

 

This is because Jack Thompson is at heart an idiot and a coward.  Idiot because he thinks he can get away with his wild accusations without someone fact checking him, and coward because he thinks he can silence those that fact check him or call him on his idiocy with baseless legal threats.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Hey Jack: http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=gta&m...

Don't assume that all cops agree with you putz.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

"A blood-soaked new video game boasts enough violence, guns and gratuitous sex to make Grand Theft Auto seem as tame as Pac-Man - and it has cops hopping mad."

I love this, makes it sound like theres a Friday the 13th or Nightmare on Elm Street game coming out.  If only.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

I've got Nightmare on Elm Street...for the NES!

 

 - Warren Lewis

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Ugh I had friday the 13th for the NES, talk about a Thompson sized fail.

 

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Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Blargh, let me rephrase that, I wish a good Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th game would come out, the ones on the NES were anything but.


Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

I guess I have a thing for bad games. =p

 - Warren Lewis

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Really, I havent played the 1st one, Never touched GTA4, Let alone the more jack spoils his ego, The more i get excited into wanting to play those games.

Magic Taco

Hey JT

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And I am also quoted in the New York Daily News, and you're not.  I just get more relevant and more powerful every single day, dispite this temporary, soon to be blocked, disbarment.

Is this a great country, or what?  Jack Thompson, Your worst nightmare

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Several things

We don't care that your qouted in a article.

Your worstnightmare- that could be taken as a threat

If your so revelent than how come everyime i google news about you, i find only articles about you getting disbarred

This is a great country- one problem, your making it more and more worst than it already is right now with all the problems.

 

As for the morman bashing

Stop it. Its disgusting, be more mature, your like 50 years old now for crying out loud. I may not be a religous dude, but I sure as hell have more respect for other reliegons unlike you.

 

Honeslty Jack here some advice.

Go home, find a nice simple job, spend time with your family, don't worry about things, and just enjoy your life. You don't need to waste it with this pointless campaign.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

I just ordered my copy. Thanks for bringing to my attention the more off-the-wall bits of the game. Grand Theft Auto with the old GTA magic put back in? Sounds worth a visit to me.

Anyone know why the report says it's available for PS3 and 360 but doesn't mention the PC? Methinks it's because people associate the PC with adults and consoles with kids. "Violent PlayStation game" sounds worse than "violent PC game", no?

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

"Anyone know why the report says it's available for PS3 and 360 but doesn't mention the PC? Methinks it's because people associate the PC with adults and consoles with kids. "Violent PlayStation game" sounds worse than "violent PC game", no?"

Thats more then likely.  Most people, not all tend to think consoles are intended for children and such, really is kinda sterotypical if you ask me, but yeah, thats probably it.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

But both have been used before, right?

 

 - Warren Lewis

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

The PC doesn't seem to come up anywhere near as often as named consoles. It runs away when people realise you can mod PC titles to increase violence or decrease personal cover, but everyone seems to ignore the PC as a source of moral corruption.

Hot Coffee on the PC is a download and execute patch. Hot Coffee on consoles is an involved affair, or at least requires a memhack system. Maybe it has something to do with the internet. "PC gamers can look at boobies in Oblivion!" Ooh, scary. Fire up Firefox and they can see them in HD.

Aside: SR2 is out for you guys already? Aww. I have to wait. :-(

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

From the NYDN article:

"Players earn money or street credibility in a host of criminal and despicable ways, like mutilating cops and enslaving women."

Mutilate cops?  Meaning you can do more than just use a large array of weapons that lead to death?  You can, in effect, injure them leaving them mutilated?

Enslave women?  Wow! And how, exactly, would that be accomplished?

If someone has an actual link to those to abilities in the game, please pass them on.  Thanks.

And I see they are still going on about the Governor's law.  The one that just said what already existed without his doing squat.   But he needed something to wave for the next election.

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

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Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

The funny thing is for every cop bitching about games like Saints Row 2, there is another cop standing in line at Gamestop to buy it.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Here we go again with the violent video game broken record.  *sigh*  I get that cops wouldn't want to play this game, but is it REALLY any different than movies showing corrupt police officers and horrific acts done to police officers?  Resevoir Dogs anyone?

@ JT

Sir you are irrelevant.  Here's a couple of reasons off the top of the list why:

1.  As of October 24th no longer a licensed, practicing attorney.

2.  No acknowledgement from peers to "leading the anti-video game charge".

3.  Have allowed members of the "ultra-violent" video game loving fans of GP have done more to keep video games in the appropriate people's hands than you.  I.E. Nightwing2000 has done more than you have to protect kids from violent video games and educate parents than you have.  THAT is a fact.  Check the same thread you were trolling yesterday and you'll find HE emailed Wal-Mart about their clerical error.

P.S. Dennis THANK YOU for that WONDERFUL edit button!

"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

"Volume helps to get a point across but sharp teeth are better."

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Do you think when JT cleans out his office he will donate his fax machine to Judge Moore?

92508 -- Disbarment Day

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Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

i think the cost of the fax machine was included in the 43 THOUSAND fine

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

@ Jack Thompson

'Jack Thompson, a Florida lawyer and longtime critic of violent video games, called Saints Row 2 a "Grand Theft Auto ripoff."'

You are just NOW figuring this out? Even I knew it was a GTA knock off when the first one came out. But then again, you always had a hard on for Grand Theft Auto, Rockstar Games, and Take Two Interactive. All this is, is a cry of 'look at me!! look at me!!' before you are offically disbarred, and everybody that ran to you before, decide to run elsewhere and ignore you. Even though you would never actually admit to it. You would come here and insult us instead, becuase you never had nothing else better to do. 'Course, It would be a bad day for you if you came on here one day and everyone here (including me)) actually ignored you. You need this site and others like it.  You seem to enjoy all the replies to your insults, and then blame us for being 'obsessed.' If we are so 'obsessed,' Then why are you here almost all the time?

BTW, I ain't your 'honey' or 'sweety.' Talking like that makes you look like an old pervert. An old pervert whose fifteen minutes were over about a year ago. And yes, I have one of those countdown timers.

Enjoy the 'eleven days, twelve hours, and twenty-one minutes' untill YOU are offically disbarred. :)

 

 - Warren Lewis

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

If you are using my countdown timer, make sure you have the latest version. Version 0.7.5 is the latest.

http://www.ezknight.net/jtdisbar_ext.php

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Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Okay, I installed it. 10 days 11:06:35 till Jack Thompson is disbarred.

Thanks again!

 - Warren Lewis

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Yeah, I am. Thanks for letting me know about the update :D

 - Warren Lewis

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Wow. They make that game sound cool. Too bad I don't care for crime games...

-Remember kids, personal responsibility is for losers! Jack Thompson is still a dick...

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

This is what Jack was going on and on about in the other forum?!

He got everyone's attention by using all CAPS LOCK characters saying that something big was coming up with Saints Row 2, and THIS IS IT!?!  

Next time try to bring your "A" game because you're barely squeaking by with a "D-"

 

 

In the words of Mrs Thompson: "Talk about anti-climactic!"

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Nope.  He was prattling about a site error at Wal Mart, which has now been fixed thanks to probably a 100 or more intelligent folks who emailed Wal Mart about the error instead of going off uncocked and screaming to the FTC like John Bruce did.

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

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Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

"A blood-soaked new video game boasts enough violence, guns and gratuitous sex to make Grand Theft Auto seem as tame as Pac-Man "

If only that were true then I'd probably buy the game. For the sake of an argument we're going to assume he means the GTA IV not the original GTA. Anyway GTA IV is 'worse' than Saint's row 2 because Saints Row Two is over the top to the point of being comical whereas GTA IV tries to be realistic and gritty (and pulls it off nicely). It wouldn't be that much of a stretch to compare Saint's Row to the three Stooges, (if the stooges had guns, and committed random crimes). 

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Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

I admit, Saints row 2 does look badass looking,I dont know what game i should choose, i was thing it was either this or SH:Homecoming,Im going to wait for the prices at the local gamestop here to drop a few dollars,and decided if i really want this. 

Magic Taco

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

 

The over the top gameplay, much like Grand Theft Auto, ends up being more satire than actual hardcore violence. These things will sell even more now that controversy from the media and actual officials that have a voice in society are having their say in this (unlike a certain senile idiotic crackpot  lawyer we all know).

Go NYPD, afterall you are promoting the sales for this game! Who needs fancy billboards or magazine ads?

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Well some people around here like to act stupid on purpose infront of him, i just like to do this and laugh when ever he posts something stupid and BS oriented.

*zips his lips*

Magic Taco

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Why do people feed the troll so much?

If you just let him have his mad rants, removing anything against the posting rules, obviously... then ignore the posts, he won't react.

He loves the attention, and has all the hallmarks of a narcissistic personality. All replying does is fuel that.

He's had his time, he's now going to be permanently disbarred, and we can all breathe a sigh of relief that he's only quarter of the man he used to claim to be.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Here's the thing: He's so obsessed with it, that if we DON'T respond, he just screams even louder, saying we're 'afraid of him.' Trust me, we've tried over the years. That's just how he works.

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Let's not feed the troll here people. I think he might bite

 

IMA FIRIN MAH LASER!!!

IMA FIRIN MAH LASER!!!

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

With what? The Bar ripped all of his lawyer-sharp teeth right out of his stupid little head. What's he gonna do: gum us to death?

Game on, brothers and sisters.

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Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

We're glad you helping too Mister Thompson,For making GP a better place.

 

Can't wait for your disbarrment hearing.

By then, We'll just let you crash your Shitty 1972 mustang into the front of Wendy's,

 

 

Magic Taco

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

He's already been disbarred. Unless you mean his appeal, which I doubt, since he thinks he's not going to be disbarred.

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Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Oh, and Dennis:  I am neither "old" nor your "pal."  What I am is a royal pain in your industry's butt.  Glad to help.

Jack Thompson

PS:  Query:  Should Mormons facilitate the posting of words on the Internet like "f--ktard"?  Just asking.

ATTENTION, GAMER IDIOTS! HUGE STORY ABOUT TO BREAK REGARDING SAINTS ROW 2, COURTESY OF JACK THOMPSON, ATTORNEY. YOU’RE WELCOME, KIDS!

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

You're not old? What the fuck do you consider old then? The Constitution? Maybe the Bill of Rights?

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Stay away from our butts you peddler of gay porn.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

thats right dennis get it straight your his "sweetie"

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

ok for the record yes that did creep me out majorly and for any emotional discomfort ive caused you dennis i deeply apologize =p

Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

1. You are quite old, Mr. Thompson. You're well into your 50s, and you're already showing signs of senility.

2. Yes, because that's all you are: a royal pain in the butt. Nothing more.

3. EZK is a moderator who knows how to separate occupation from religion (as evidenced by his previous post above). You, on the other hand, tried to stop your disbarment, using the claim that the Bar was hating on you because you're a Christian. How pathetic: Christ will not shield you from yourself.

4. Piss off, you old, pal-like fucktard. (God, I'm starting to love that word. )

Game on, brothers and sisters.

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Re: NYPD Spokesman Outraged by Saints Row 2

Jack Jack Jack. You realize you remind me of the P.M.R.C. Alot of noise about controling or censoring content, and what actually happened? The advisory stickers went on the records and the records went on to sell Hundreds of thousands more then they probably would have.

To quote one of my favorite rap songs. "Can't you see, you alcoholic idiots? The more you try to surpress us the larger we get."- Ice-T "Freedom of speech" (Just to PISS you off Jack.)

 

 

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